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March 20, 2021, 07:55:24 PM |
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There's a lot of good movies nowadays, honestly and thanks to Netflix for bringing such good movies, the awards is just a consolation price for those good movies, they are still the best for me.
I disagree with you a little bit. Netflix doesn't have a lot of good movies right now, so far it's more of an exception. If you don't count documentaries because there are a lot of them and a lot of cool ones. The only good Netflix movie I can think of is The Irishman. But they do have a lot of great series. I like the fact that they have not only American soap operas, but also from different European countries such as the German series Dark. I like their strategy to produce series, Netflix and HBO are the main producers of TV series. And as for the Oscars, I think this award is more dead than alive. The studios don't give money to good movies with original storylines. They make Avengers and Fast and Furious because they make a lot of money. I think there is some kind of crisis in cinema right now. Everything has become too commercialized.
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March 20, 2021, 09:47:19 PM |
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Which is this movie and its sequel both nominated for the Best Original Screenplay award you are talking about?
The Thin Man (1934) and After the Thin Man (1936) The Hustler (1961) and The Color of Money (1986) and, as I have already mentioned, The Godfather (1972) and The Godfather: Part II (1974) I disagree with you, who are you to say Borat shouldn't be on any Oscar nomination list?
Take it down a notch. As this is a public forum, we don't have to agree on everything in order to have a good discussion.
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March 21, 2021, 10:40:52 AM |
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Like even before, Heath Ledger dies before Dark knight's release, this is the same situation, I guess Chadwick Boseman will be the Best Actor in oscar 2021.
Yeah, I totally forgot that Chadwick Boseman is the first posthumous Oscars acting nominee since Heath Ledger. He was also an excellent actor who, unfortunately, left us too soon. RIP ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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March 21, 2021, 12:05:53 PM |
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Best Actress stat:1. Carey Mulligan ( 2 nominee) - Nominee Promising Young Woman - Nominee An Education 2. Andra Day (1 Nominee) - Nominee The United States vs. Billie Holiday 3. Frances Mcdormand (4 nominee and 2 winners) - Nominee Nomadland - Winner Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Nominee North Country - Nominee Almost Famous - Winner Fargo - Nominee Mississippi Burning 4. Vanessa Kirby (1 nominee) - Nominee Pieces of a Woman 5. Viola-Davis (3 nominee and 1 winner) - Nominee Ma Rainey's Black Bottom - Winner Fences - Nominee The Help - Nominee Doubt source: https://www.imdb.comI bet Frances McDormand for the best actress, the character in nomaland as strong independent women same as the film Three Billboards when got the oscar. she looks totally acting as before.
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March 22, 2021, 12:56:33 AM |
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Sadly quality seems to not matter for Hollywood anymore.
It is not difficult to know what is happening, Hollywood is being a victim of its own success, they have been earning so much money that they thought they could release whatever they wanted and still make a fortune and now they are realizing this is not the case, and when we add that it seems every movie needs hundreds of millions of dollars to be produced even when the spectator cannot see where all that money went then we have a situation like what we have now, the audience is not as interested as it was on the past on watching the Oscars as they are giving the awards to movies very few watched. I'm one of these spectators. I can't see how a movie made in studios using mostly green screen effects (chroma key) and fully relying in CGI effects even for characters can be so expensive. With so many difficults to spot quality in movies nowadays I think it's very risky to gamble in Oscar's results. Looks like every movies are flat and have the same characteristics that I can't analyze why the judges' final choice will be this movie or that movie. It's like betting on the roulette or dice, totally random, LOL! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I know what you mean, I am not saying that movies made in the 90’s or earlier were better, there were a lot of bad movies back then too, but you could see where the money was spent as they needed to film on location or they needed to build a huge set for the movie so you could see where the money was used, but now as you say a great deal is just special effects and very little storytelling and that is a disgrace in an art form that is supposed to be about telling stories.
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March 22, 2021, 01:32:48 AM |
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[...] I bet Frances McDormand for the best actress, the character in nomaland as strong independent women same as the film Three Billboards when got the oscar. she looks totally acting as before.
It was my main stake for the Golden Globe of the best actress but finally the winner had been Andra Day(in The United States vs. Billie Holiday) so I wouldn't bet only on her for the Oscar of the best actress. There can be surprises. Usually odds for this type of bets allow to place several bets on different contestants.
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Has anyone watched all the movies under the best picture nominations during the coronavirus pandemic? I am a big movie goer. But I do not know all of those movies except for The Trial of the Chicago 7 only because it was available on Netflix hehehe.
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March 22, 2021, 04:46:04 AM |
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Has anyone watched all the movies under the best picture nominations during the coronavirus pandemic? I am a big movie goer. But I do not know all of those movies except for The Trial of the Chicago 7 only because it was available on Netflix hehehe.
yes, not all those. Google is our friend during the pandemic, some of the movies I watched on streaming internet because Netflix has banned by the provider either.
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Has anyone watched all the movies under the best picture nominations during the coronavirus pandemic? I am a big movie goer. But I do not know all of those movies except for The Trial of the Chicago 7 only because it was available on Netflix hehehe.
Haven't watched any nominees yet but I think Minari and Sound of Metal seems to be a good film, I don't have the time to watch but maybe I will but I won't be watching before the Oscars. You might want to try Piratebay if you want to not pay for watching or you might want to buy the movie at the Google playstore.
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March 22, 2021, 08:01:14 AM |
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There's a lot of good movies nowadays, honestly and thanks to Netflix for bringing such good movies, the awards is just a consolation price for those good movies, they are still the best for me.
I disagree with you a little bit. Netflix doesn't have a lot of good movies right now, so far it's more of an exception. If you don't count documentaries because there are a lot of them and a lot of cool ones. The only good Netflix movie I can think of is The Irishman. But they do have a lot of great series. I like the fact that they have not only American soap operas, but also from different European countries such as the German series Dark. I like their strategy to produce series, Netflix and HBO are the main producers of TV series. And as for the Oscars, I think this award is more dead than alive. The studios don't give money to good movies with original storylines. They make Avengers and Fast and Furious because they make a lot of money. I think there is some kind of crisis in cinema right now. Everything has become too commercialized. It may seem it doesn't have a lot of good movies because of the sheer amount of movies that get made (distributed/funded) by them so it tends to get lost in all of it. For instance, both War Machine and Operation Finale are solid films (not new films but still), but what I do resent with Netflix's own production is that most of it has the same distinct Netflix look and feel to them. It's like they have to cookie-cutter all of their productions for some reason.
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March 22, 2021, 01:56:48 PM |
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Has anyone watched all the movies under the best picture nominations during the coronavirus pandemic? I am a big movie goer. But I do not know all of those movies except for The Trial of the Chicago 7 only because it was available on Netflix hehehe.
I am yet to watch all the movies and usually these picks are won by the favorites and rarely you see an underdog winning with these betting lines and even without watching all the favorites should win them this time. Anyone who watched these movies who has the possibility to win Best Supporting Actress and Best Actress because those were the only things that have two tight lines in terms of acting.
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March 22, 2021, 04:02:25 PM |
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Best Actor Chadwick Boseman (Ma Raineys Black Bottom) 1.08 Anthony Hopkins (The Father) 9 Riz Ahmed (Sound Of Metal) 17 Gary Oldman (Mank) 26 Steven Yeun (Minari) 34 The odds for Chadwick Bozeman are low but still he remains the Academy favourite and might be grabbing the Oscar this time as first Black posthumous acting Anthony is the oldest in the list with being in nominated from late 83's.Riz Ahmed is the first Muslim lead actor nominee ever in Academy awards.This year 93rd Academy awards will be held in person inspite of zoom calls.But I really want Chadwick to win this time as a tribute to him and his contribution and brilliant acting skills to the industry in his career.Its just a personal feeling as other are also very good actors. Oscar predictions
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yes, not all those. Google is our friend during the pandemic, some of the movies I watched on streaming internet because Netflix has banned by the provider either.
Netflix is banned in your country? That sucks. What you could do to circumvent that is use VPN, preferably Express VPN as I know that they work good with Netflix so you can access content in any country. but what I do resent with Netflix's own production is that most of it has the same distinct Netflix look and feel to them. It's like they have to cookie-cutter all of their productions for some reason.
I kinda had the same feeling years before when Netflix had really bad movies and they did feel like they were made for TV or something, but situation changed lately and Netflix started getting out some really good ones. Anyone who watched these movies who has the possibility to win Best Supporting Actress and Best Actress because those were the only things that have two tight lines in terms of acting.
Regarding best supporting actress, no one really impressed me so far. I haven't see Olivia Coleman in father yet, and I do like her a lot. About the best supporting actor, probably best was the one who is main favorite, Daniel Kaluuya. The I think that is overrated this year is Sacha Baron Cohen. What really annoyed me is that he was ocassionaly mixing British and American accents, which is a weird thing as UK actors generally don't have issues with American accent (while opposite is quite common, it's very hard to American actors to fake British accent. I might be nitpicking, but that;s how i felt :p.
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but what I do resent with Netflix's own production is that most of it has the same distinct Netflix look and feel to them. It's like they have to cookie-cutter all of their productions for some reason.
I kinda had the same feeling years before when Netflix had really bad movies and they did feel like they were made for TV or something, but situation changed lately and Netflix started getting out some really good ones. I am dividing streaming services production to time before Game of Thrones and after. That series changed everything and showed streaming services that it is profitable to invest large amount of money and produce qoulity show/movie. Before that you could really see the gap in qoulity, nowadays the situation is much better and you will find even Hollywood A listers staring in some of the shows/movies. Perfect example is Netflix original movie "6 Underground" starring Ryan Reynolds and directed by Michael Bay.
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Hmm, interesting - I'll go with:
Best Picture: The Trial of The Chicago 7
Best Actress: Andra Day (The United States Vs. Billie Holiday)
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman (Ma Raineys Black Bottom)
Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman) OR Chloe Zhao (Nomadland)
Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari)
Best Supporting Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas And The Black Messiah)
The other categories I couldn't say for certain, I may comeback and review another time.[/size]
I've placed bets based on my post quoted above: https://nitrogensports.eu/sportsbookBest Picture: The Trial of The Chicago 7
Best Actress: Andra Day (The United States Vs. Billie Holiday)
Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman) OR Chloe Zhao (Nomadland) Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari)
Best Supporting Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas And The Black Messiah)![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwQmKLjv.jpg&t=665&c=W-pZcW4Q5nnCLg)
My picks: Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman (Ma Raineys Black Bottom)
Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman)are paying even money, so I'm choosing not to place bets, but wish all participants and enjoyable night and good luck to all.
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Completely agree. And as I wrote before, by not watching the movies you are robbing yourself the insight into other categories. People tend to focus on the best movie overall and the best actors but tend to neglect things like songs, scores, script, or visual effects that are also categories that are not there as a filler but as a true art form that should be examined outside of it just being a part of the film itself. You don't have to do all that to make some bets, just watch the films and if you think that it is good then go bet on it, you are not a critic and you don't have a say as to who is going to win the awards so I don't think that you have to completely immerse yourself in analysis of the story because if you do so then you won't enjoy the movie.
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Completely agree. And as I wrote before, by not watching the movies you are robbing yourself the insight into other categories. People tend to focus on the best movie overall and the best actors but tend to neglect things like songs, scores, script, or visual effects that are also categories that are not there as a filler but as a true art form that should be examined outside of it just being a part of the film itself. You don't have to do all that to make some bets, just watch the films and if you think that it is good then go bet on it, you are not a critic and you don't have a say as to who is going to win the awards so I don't think that you have to completely immerse yourself in analysis of the story because if you do so then you won't enjoy the movie. To be quite fair, to have a more educated guess for betting purposes a better option than watching the movies would be hanging out on oscar related forums, read the articles and find out what movie and/or topic has the most hype to it because watching it could compromise objectivity if betting is the only thing someone wants to do with the Oscars.
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I used to be very excited about the Oscars with my family watching almost everything and then making predictions of the winners in every nomination since I was a kid. However, I really think that over the last few years TV shows progressed and became way deeper than they used to be, whereas movies are becoming increasingly more disappointing. And sure, there are always some good ones, but the Academy seems to have stopped noticing them. For instance, I loved Tenet and was sure that it would get a bunch of nominations (including the one for Best Picture), but it only got two minor ones. And I've watched Nomadland which is not a bad movie, but it's not great either, and I think it's a little sad that it's most likely to get the Best Picture award. I also don't get why Borat has such high odds on the Best Adapted Screenplay, as it's a very decent movie that IMO deserves this win. It looks dumb and the style is certainly not for everyone, but it's deeper than it looks, unmasking the problems of right-wing populism, COVID skepticism, and treatment of women. I guess I'll place some money on it, just in case ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And Frances Mcdormand played nicely in Nomadland, so I think I'll bet on her for the Best Actress award as well. However, she does already have two of these, so maybe she's indeed not very likely to win another one.
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I am dividing streaming services production to time before Game of Thrones and after. That series changed everything and showed streaming services that it is profitable to invest large amount of money and produce qoulity show/movie. Before that you could really see the gap in qoulity, nowadays the situation is much better and you will find even Hollywood A listers staring in some of the shows/movies. To be honest, HBO has a long history of top notch productions years (even decades ) before Game of Thrones appeared. Their shows were always on a completely different level compared to those that were made by for example FOX/NBC/CBS. Just look at the HBO series from 90s/00s like Sopranos, Deadwood, Rome, OZ, Boardwalk Empire, The Wire, Band of Brothers, or Pacific (which is still the most expensive HBO series ever based on price per episode, even more expensive than GoT} that are considered among best series ever. Difference now is that more streaming services appeared thanks to internet so of course number of quality series increased and HBO finally got competition, which is good for us as consumers. But even with all these good new series, if someone asks me to name my top 10 series ever, one or none made in the last 10 years would get into that list.
I've placed bets based on my post quoted above: Best Picture: The Trial of The Chicago 7 Best Actress: Andra Day (The United States Vs. Billie Holiday) Best Director: either: Emerald Fennell (Promising Young Woman) OR Chloe Zhao (Nomadland) Best Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari) Best Supporting Actor: Lakeith Stanfield (Judas And The Black Messiah) An interesting picks, I still can't decide about few. Problem is that some odds for an obvious favorites are way too low so it doesn't make sense, while those that have decent odds don't look like they have good chances. Our of all "major "categories" the one for Best Supporting Actress seems most uncertain. I see that you bet on Youn Yuh-Jung (Minari) which is imho a good bet as she did a decent job bit I am still trying to get my hands on The Father as I think Olivia Coleman might even scoop that. 10 is a great odd but I don't wanna bet without watching a movie first. I know that its not really important to see the movie in order to bet, but still can't force myself betting like that.
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March 25, 2021, 03:34:45 AM |
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I used to be very excited about the Oscars with my family watching almost everything and then making predictions of the winners in every nomination since I was a kid. However, I really think that over the last few years TV shows progressed and became way deeper than they used to be, whereas movies are becoming increasingly more disappointing. And sure, there are always some good ones, but the Academy seems to have stopped noticing them. For instance, I loved Tenet and was sure that it would get a bunch of nominations (including the one for Best Picture), but it only got two minor ones. And I've watched Nomadland which is not a bad movie, but it's not great either, and I think it's a little sad that it's most likely to get the Best Picture award. I also don't get why Borat has such high odds on the Best Adapted Screenplay, as it's a very decent movie that IMO deserves this win. It looks dumb and the style is certainly not for everyone, but it's deeper than it looks, unmasking the problems of right-wing populism, COVID skepticism, and treatment of women. I guess I'll place some money on it, just in case ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) And Frances Mcdormand played nicely in Nomadland, so I think I'll bet on her for the Best Actress award as well. However, she does already have two of these, so maybe she's indeed not very likely to win another one. That has been a problem for movies during recent years, the TV will always have a lot of silly shows but during the last decade they have improved significantly to the point many productions have nothing to envy to what Hollywood does, this means Hollywood is not as special as it was before and many of its tricks can be used not only by TV productions but now even by people producing their own content, and when we add a great deal of the recent releases are just a bunch of remakes and unoriginal movies then it is natural people are discontent with what Hollywood has become.
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