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[Wind_FURY]

It might take time for a sportsbook provider to realize that username "holy" on Rollbit is the same person as username "darkness" in, let's say, BetPanda, and UID 12345678 on BC. But eventually algorithm will caught them, and thus, even without offense on Shuffle or BC or BetCoin or DuckDice or other casino who share same provider, the "presumption" [or rather... judgment] will eventually fall to "darkness" and "UID 12345678" in form of either ban-hammer or being limited.

Makes sense, but they should make it clear to the gamblers in question instead of asking them to specify their other accounts. This is usually how arbers get caught across sportsbooks with a common provider.

OK, THIS MAKES SENSE NOW!

I believe we have answered our own questions. Plus if the individual who is complaining is an actual ARBER who does it professionally and does it with a group of people to escape detection, THEN we definitely know that they're not mere plebs like us that have gotten their accounts locked. The provider is actually trying to stop toxicity that's exploiting their system.

[Haunebu]

I believe we have answered our own questions. Plus if the individual who is complaining is an actual ARBER who does it professionally and does it with a group of people to escape detection, THEN we definitely know that they're not mere plebs like us that have gotten their accounts locked. The provider is actually trying to stop toxicity that's exploiting their system.

We are just speculating at this point since there is no confirmation that the alleged victim is an arber. The big issue here is that they never bothered to give him a proper answer which even Casino Guru pointed out.

They responded in the Casino Guru thread and never bothered to close the case properly which is weird. Reasons like these made me stop gambling there completely since there are better alternatives out there.

[Wind_FURY]

I believe we have answered our own questions. Plus if the individual who is complaining is an actual ARBER who does it professionally and does it with a group of people to escape detection, THEN we definitely know that they're not mere plebs like us that have gotten their accounts locked. The provider is actually trying to stop toxicity that's exploiting their system.

We are just speculating at this point since there is no confirmation that the alleged victim is an arber. The big issue here is that they never bothered to give him a proper answer which even Casino Guru pointed out.

For the complainants in the topic, we are. BUT holydarkness has OPENED OUR EYES and refusing its validity is stupidity. There's now a higher probability that those newbie/brand new accounts who were complaining were actually professional arbers who got their accounts locked by a common provider. The same complaints were made in Shuffle's thread made also by newbie/brand new accounts.

They responded in the Casino Guru thread and never bothered to close the case properly which is weird. Reasons like these made me stop gambling there completely since there are better alternatives out there.

Were the complaints in Casino Guru made by newbies/brand new accounts too? Or were they made by trustworthy individuals?

[JiiBs]

They responded in the Casino Guru thread and never bothered to close the case properly which is weird. Reasons like these made me stop gambling there completely since there are better alternatives out there.

Were the complaints in Casino Guru made by newbies/brand new accounts too? Or were they made by trustworthy individuals?

There isn’t no ranking system in Casino Guru so we don’t get to rank no one there although, we could look at it from the aspects that these users are those that already made complaints here but, looking at the facts that these complaints are always similar and coming from a particular sets of persons who originally might not have been regular users of the forum but, only exploiting the possibility of getting cases resolved through the forum, the chances that they are an actual ARBER are really high since, regular users on the forum gets their pass.

[Haunebu]

The same complaints were made in Shuffle's thread made also by newbie/brand new accounts.

Were the complaints in Casino Guru made by newbies/brand new accounts too? Or were they made by trustworthy individuals?

You aren't making much sense here. Most complainants in this forum and any other site for that matter are newbie accounts since they found those sites through their research and created accounts to find some sort of resolution to their problems.

Ranking doesn't automatically clarify how trustworthy a particular individual is in any site basically. Other factors like validity of proof etc matter too.

[konstantin92]

I believe we have answered our own questions. Plus if the individual who is complaining is an actual ARBER who does it professionally and does it with a group of people to escape detection, THEN we definitely know that they're not mere plebs like us that have gotten their accounts locked. The provider is actually trying to stop toxicity that's exploiting their system.

We are just speculating at this point since there is no confirmation that the alleged victim is an arber. The big issue here is that they never bothered to give him a proper answer which even Casino Guru pointed out.

For the complainants in the topic, we are. BUT holydarkness has OPENED OUR EYES and refusing its validity is stupidity. There's now a higher probability that those newbie/brand new accounts who were complaining were actually professional arbers who got their accounts locked by a common provider. The same complaints were made in Shuffle's thread made also by newbie/brand new accounts.

They responded in the Casino Guru thread and never bothered to close the case properly which is weird. Reasons like these made me stop gambling there completely since there are better alternatives out there.

Were the complaints in Casino Guru made by newbies/brand new accounts too? Or were they made by trustworthy individuals?

Hi, I created a topic about rollbit, look at it on this site and explain what I am guilty of when I bet on the top world championships? in particular on the Ligue 1 of the French championship? I have been ignored for more than a month!!!

[Wind_FURY]

The same complaints were made in Shuffle's thread made also by newbie/brand new accounts.

Were the complaints in Casino Guru made by newbies/brand new accounts too? Or were they made by trustworthy individuals?

You aren't making much sense here. Most complainants in this forum and any other site for that matter are newbie accounts since they found those sites through their research and created accounts to find some sort of resolution to their problems.

To give them the benefit of the doubt, yes. But could we actually verify that they're actual "newbies" in the casino world.

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Ranking doesn't automatically clarify how trustworthy a particular individual is in any site basically. Other factors like validity of proof etc matter too.

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

The debate will always go back to holydarkness' posts because it NOW makes sense.

[Haunebu]

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Twisting what I stated is just silly on your part since you know damn well what I was trying to convey. Legit victims in this forum usually have newbie accounts which is common sense.

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

[Ojima-ojo]

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Twisting what I stated is just silly on your part since you know damn well what I was trying to convey. Legit victims in this forum usually have newbie accounts which is common sense.

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

There is need to be less hostile while trying to get resolve for an issues, I agree the fact that some casinos can hold on to players fund's and treat them unfairly sometimes, but also we have to approach every case based on it own nature.


So for us to get things right, there is need for provision of evidence that support the case, so let it not be as if requesting for evidence is never a way to silence anyone having complain about a casino that we know.

[Amphenomenon]

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

This is true and if the customer are innocent things will be resolved in their favor.
To be honest I don't really like seeing complains that has been here for long and hasn't been resolved. I think the team needs to do more on their customers support. Rollbit has built a good name with consistency.

[ultrloa]

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

This is true and if the customer are innocent things will be resolved in their favor.
To be honest I don't really like seeing complains that has been here for long and hasn't been resolved. I think the team needs to do more on their customers support. Rollbit has built a good name with consistency.

We don't know what actually happen and if the user is really innocent towards those issues he encounter for sure later on he would take his funds out on their casino.

But since there are still running investigation and parties are trying to get good remedies towards these situation I guess what we can do is to wait and speculate about the development of the case .

Also it seems that they are working already with it but it just it need more time to sort the issue and the affected person need to cooperate also update his case. But lets do hope that this issue will be done and those legitimate claims can find good resolution on the issues they are facing.

[Amphenomenon]

This is true and if the customer are innocent things will be resolved in their favor.
To be honest I don't really like seeing complains that has been here for long and hasn't been resolved. I think the team needs to do more on their customers support. Rollbit has built a good name with consistency.

We don't know what actually happen and if the user is really innocent towards those issues he encounter for sure later on he would take his funds out on their casino.

But since there are still running investigation and parties are trying to get good remedies towards these situation I guess what we can do is to wait and speculate about the development of the case .

Also it seems that they are working already with it but it just it need more time to sort the issue and the affected person need to cooperate also update his case. But lets do hope that this issue will be done and those legitimate claims can find good resolution on the issues they are facing.

We are saying the  same thing. Anyone who is right will have all this in their favor in the end. I just added that the Rollbit may need more customer support or at least a more active one on the forum or on this thread in case of issues like this. In order for others not to be having a skeptical view on them, after all they have been good.

[Wind_FURY]

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Twisting what I stated is just silly on your part since you know damn well what I was trying to convey. Legit victims in this forum usually have newbie accounts which is common sense.

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

Ser, I didn't twist anything because BOTH could DEFINITELY be true. There are legit complaints and there are Sybil Attacks/Social Engineering Attacks - both are possibilities.

Rollbit may also be guilty in some situations, but they're only guilty in bad customer service. But if you believe that the service is actually stealing from their own users, then that's your opinion.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

This is true and if the customer are innocent things will be resolved in their favor.
To be honest I don't really like seeing complains that has been here for long and hasn't been resolved. I think the team needs to do more on their customers support. Rollbit has built a good name with consistency.

But like a skyscraper that can take several years to build, but only a few hours or at most, a day or two to destroy, so is reputation, it can take alot of time to build, it can take so long as the business exist to build a good reputation, but a singular mistake or an issue that was perhaps; ignored because of its irrelevance can cause every thing that took years of hardwork to build, to come crashing down all of a sudden.

Rollbit have been having issues consistently and back to back with customers, and this leaves me wondering what exactly is going on with them, for several months and weeks now, there is always someone complaining about one issue or the other anytime I visit this thread, and this is not good for Rollbit's reputation, they should step up and put a permanent end to all of this issues with their users.

[JiiBs]

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Twisting what I stated is just silly on your part since you know damn well what I was trying to convey. Legit victims in this forum usually have newbie accounts which is common sense.

Sorry man but, this caught my attention,
You did say here that ‘legit victims usually do have newbie accounts’ that’s rephrased to some extent but yeah, it’s the point.

Is that in a way to mean that, newbies specifically gets victimized because, they would be undermined while,
Ranked users are treated with respect? Given that unequal treatments are dished out by all the casinos on the forum based on ranks which is first and foremost, of the forum!!!

Because, I don’t quite agree on that as, just any user can go by any name on any casino and not be tied to the forum. Don’t you think… and it in no way defines treatments.

But their complaints, merely because they made them, also doesn't prove their innocence, no?

It obviously doesn't, but it automatically doesn't imply that Rollbit is innocent either. This is where legit evidence comes into play sorting these sort of situations out effectively.

This we could agree on, it always comes down to evidence in the end. Justify your case with it and you would supports.

[Amphenomenon]

If you believe that everyone in BitcoinTalk should trust in every brand new accounts/newbies' posts, then the forum would be vulnerable to social-engineering attacks.

Twisting what I stated is just silly on your part since you know damn well what I was trying to convey. Legit victims in this forum usually have newbie accounts which is common sense.

Sorry man but, this caught my attention,
You did say here that ‘legit victims usually do have newbie accounts’ that’s rephrased to some extent but yeah, it’s the point.

Is that in a way to mean that, newbies specifically gets victimized because, they would be undermined while,
Ranked users are treated with respect? Given that unequal treatments are dished out by all the casinos on the forum based on ranks which is first and foremost, of the forum!!!

Because, I don’t quite agree on that as, just any user can go by any name on any casino and not be tied to the forum. Don’t you think… and it in no way defines treatments.

Come on man, what I believe Haunebu is referring to is the fact that members of the forum can have biased judgement against a newbie account speaking about an issue with a casino simply because of maybe our past experience with them where many were actually at fault but even at that some are still innocent/legit and so we can't just see all as being liars at first.

After all, the majority of these users having issues with casinos are not from the forum but do create account here just to get their issues sorted, no one should be treated disrespectfully except proven otherwise.

[Haunebu]

Come on man, what I believe Haunebu is referring to is the fact that members of the forum can have biased judgement against a newbie account speaking about an issue with a casino simply because of maybe our past experience with them where many were actually at fault but even at that some are still innocent/legit and so we can't just see all as being liars at first.

Thank you for being objective about all of this. It's pretty damn evident that several Rollbit posters are just going all out trying to defend the site that they are advertising without using their heads properly.

Rollbit is still a legit crypto gambling site, but their unethical tactics in recent times(KYC etc) are visible to everyone and the legit victims deserve appropriate resolutions plain and simple.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Come on man, what I believe Haunebu is referring to is the fact that members of the forum can have biased judgement against a newbie account speaking about an issue with a casino simply because of maybe our past experience with them where many were actually at fault but even at that some are still innocent/legit and so we can't just see all as being liars at first.

Thank you for being objective about all of this. It's pretty damn evident that several Rollbit posters are just going all out trying to defend the site that they are advertising without using their heads properly.

Rollbit is still a legit crypto gambling site, but their unethical tactics in recent times(KYC etc) are visible to everyone and the legit victims deserve appropriate resolutions plain and simple.

You are absolutely correct, I personally have come across some comments here on this thread written by some Rollbit posters and for most of this comments, I sometimes shake my head after reading.

I do not know but it's absolutely wrong to defend a casino or even show signs of doing it when the casino is not offering a service that is up to standard, up to exceptions of their consumers, all because one is on their payroll as an advertiser.
Rollbit have been messing up lately with the way they treat their users, and I think I've mentioned this before that the management needs to be called to other, this is one of the legit casinos and they shouldnt be subjecting their users to unnecessary problems.

[Wind_FURY]

Come on man, what I believe Haunebu is referring to is the fact that members of the forum can have biased judgement against a newbie account speaking about an issue with a casino simply because of maybe our past experience with them where many were actually at fault but even at that some are still innocent/legit and so we can't just see all as being liars at first.

Thank you for being objective about all of this. It's pretty damn evident that several Rollbit posters are just going all out trying to defend the site that they are advertising without using their heads properly.

Rollbit is still a legit crypto gambling site, but their unethical tactics in recent times(KYC etc) are visible to everyone and the legit victims deserve appropriate resolutions plain and simple.

If you could prove that those that are currently complaining AREN'T what was described in the post by holydarkness, THEN I would agree with you. But because we DON'T have the whole story, plus because there's some probability that the "unethical tactics" might be done by the provider, not the casino, THEN WE should be MORE OBJECTIVE.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EVERYONE should read holydarkness' posts. He has experience in customer support, and he has some knowledge of what's happening behind the casinos, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5326640.msg65493752#msg65493752

[holydarkness]

Come on man, what I believe Haunebu is referring to is the fact that members of the forum can have biased judgement against a newbie account speaking about an issue with a casino simply because of maybe our past experience with them where many were actually at fault but even at that some are still innocent/legit and so we can't just see all as being liars at first.

Thank you for being objective about all of this. It's pretty damn evident that several Rollbit posters are just going all out trying to defend the site that they are advertising without using their heads properly.

Rollbit is still a legit crypto gambling site, but their unethical tactics in recent times(KYC etc) are visible to everyone and the legit victims deserve appropriate resolutions plain and simple.

If you could prove that those that are currently complaining AREN'T what was described in the post by holydarkness, THEN I would agree with you. But because we DON'T have the whole story, plus because there's some probability that the "unethical tactics" might be done by the provider, not the casino, THEN WE should be MORE OBJECTIVE.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

EVERYONE should read holydarkness' posts. He has experience in customer support, and he has some knowledge of what's happening behind the casinos, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5326640.msg65493752#msg65493752

Uhh, total disclaimer here: I didn't read what you both discussed, only read at glance whenever my name being mentioned, without really following the exchange of communications, so I really have no idea what you both are currenty talking about, but if I correctly perceive what I glanced at, I think either one of you need to re-read the lengthly explaination I made in the past.

Like... really, I'm not sure which one of you misunderstood, and couldn't care less who misunderstood what, but I believe someone need to re-read that wall of text. Keypoint: it excludes Rollbit's latest situation to approach disputes against them as well as Betby's temporary "glitch" where they selectively ban players.