[POLL] Do vaccines kill people?

[cmg777]

Cool, you must have the links to these studies then. Post them here.

Ok I'll do it for BADecker:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-18-connecticut-govt-secretly-tells-health-care-workers-covid-vaccines-are-deadly.html

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DDS/COVID-19_2021/DPH_covidvaccine_ingredients_and_work_2_3_21.pdf

https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/33474m.pdf

[BADecker]

This thread is the strangest thread. It's like the votes of people are going make any difference between life and death.

Many people think the vaccines are okay. And that is their choice, no matter what their reasoning is based on. It's a good thing to trust a knowledgeable doctor.

What's strange is that the doctors at the CDC and their organization called VAERS say that vaccines kill people. In fact, they say that we have had over 4,000 deaths from the Covid vaccines so far in the US.

So, why vote? The question is answered right in VAERS, and the Harvard School of Medicine study that proves VAERS only gets less that 1% of the reports, death or otherwise.

What's really funny is the vote asks dead people to vote. About as serious as the CDC that there even is a Covid problem.

[cmg777]

This thread is the strangest thread. It's like the votes of people are going make any difference between life and death.

Many people think the vaccines are okay. And that is their choice, no matter what their reasoning is based on. It's a good thing to trust a knowledgeable doctor.

What's strange is that the doctors at the CDC and their organization called VAERS say that vaccines kill people. In fact, they say that we have had over 4,000 deaths from the Covid vaccines so far in the US.

So, why vote? The question is answered right in VAERS, and the Harvard School of Medicine study that proves VAERS only gets less that 1% of the reports, death or otherwise.

What's really funny is the vote asks dead people to vote. About as serious as the CDC that there even is a Covid problem.

I feel the voting choices in this thread is akin to a Jim Jones death cult where he wanted people to commit ritual suicide or like how the Mayans and other cultures would ritually sacrifice people for blood magic. I mean you can't vote "dead" the only logic choice is alive or alive with side affects/adverse reactions as the dead can't talk. Unless the the author is implying that the vaccines do turn people into zombies  ?

[suchmoon]

I feel the voting choices in this thread is akin to a Jim Jones death cult where he wanted people to commit ritual suicide or like how the Mayans and other cultures would ritually sacrifice people for blood magic. I mean you can't vote "dead" the only logic choice is alive or alive with side affects/adverse reactions as the dead can't talk. Unless the the author is implying that the vaccines do turn people into zombies  ?

I'm sorry that my thread doesn't meet your high standards but actually I'm not sorry nor do I give a shit. Go get vaccinated so you could answer the poll question. Or don't, just stay away from people lest you infect them.

[philipma1957]

I'm alive even though I have been vaccinated. (Not Covid vaccine)

Still vaccines can cause a death because recently 2 people who I know died due to blot clots in their arteries which happened just after they have been vaccinated, I mean in less than a week so I don't want to take the Covid vaccine because depopulation conspiracy theories make some sense if we look all these things as a sequence.

Yeah but think if this is true and governments want to wast billions of people who do they want to waste.

1. Sheeple that follow the rules and make tons of money for the rich.
2. Freedom fighters that protest and run around with guns.

The reality is they would waste 2.

Not 1.

So if you are afraid of a plot to drop the worlds population you need to be a wolf 🐺 disguised as a sheeple.

So to all the freedom fighters anti vaxers read this post very carefully and place your bets on to vax or not to vax.

I am fully  pfizered 2 shots and tues the 18th of may is two weeks after the second shot.

I am a type 2 diabetic that uses diet to keep my a1c under 7.0
I am a life long asmathic  that controls my asthma with many many many airfilters.

And now I am so lucky as to be able to wears masks anywhere I want.

The type 95 are really good for my allergies pollen like trees and grass are bad for me.

I ask all anti vaxers to read this and I hope they make the right guess.

To vax or not to vax?

That is the question.

Good luck to all.

Note I am 64 .

If I remember I will post here in a month or so.

Btw my wife and I both had covid very early Say dec 2019 to Jan 2020.

She was in the hospital 2 times in 2020 and finally about 17 months after she got it she is close to normal.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Ok I'll do it for BADecker:

None of those links are to studies or trials.

I notice BADecker is now ignoring the question. I wonder why.

[darklus123]

https://prnt.sc/137h13f
if(me === dead) {
vote_POOL("dead")
}

nice work hooman.
regards,
AI

[cmg777]

Ok I'll do it for BADecker:

None of those links are to studies or trials.

I notice BADecker is now ignoring the question. I wonder why.

There is a study in the article done by the Salk institute about the spike proteins from COVID being present in the vaccine as well:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html

"The research, published in the journal Circulation Research, concludes, “…we show that spike protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function.”"

They can cause deadly blood clots.

Also in my previous post if you read the article which summates what is said by the Connecticut government to Health Care workers for the vaccines:

"Connecticut admits covid vaccines contain spike proteins, then claims they are harmless even while the Salk Institute confirms they can be deadly"

"Covid-19 vaccine ingredients include SM-102, a toxic substance known to be harmful to humans and animals"

"“Vaccine checklist” document secretly warns healthcare professionals the covid vaccine may KILL them, yet withholds this information from the public"

Disclaimer from the CT document: "I believe the benefits outweigh the risks and I voluntarily assume full responsibility for any reactions that may result from either my receipt of the immunization(s)…  Neither the provisioning mass vaccination center nor any of the Released Parties shall, at any time or to any extent whatsoever, be liable, responsible or any way accountable for any loss, injury, death or damage suffered or sustained by any person at any time in connection with or as a result of this vaccine program or the administration of the vaccines described above."

In addition, this document reveals the known adverse reactions from covid-19 vaccines, explaining they include:

Feelings of impending doom
Loss of consciousness
Disorientation, confusion, weakness
Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting
Flickering lights, tunnel vision.
Changes in hearing / loss of hearing


Bottom line, its ok to admit you were duped by the medical industrial complex (yes there is also a military industrial complex as well but no one talks about the medical one). I've been duped by them as my doctor recommended that I take Paxil it made me feel funny so I stopped taking it after a month. Years later I see TV ads about suing them for the adverse affects they caused (like vaccines). Its when you choose to no longer listen to them yourself that you become stronger than the so-called vaccine. Try alternatives see what results they bring. If they don't yield anything for you then go back to the medical industrial complex. For now you are a free person.

[o_e_l_e_o]

There is a study in the article done by the Salk institute about the spike proteins from COVID being present in the vaccine as well:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html

I mean, this has literally nothing to do with BADecker's obviously bullshit statement that hydroxychloroquine and zinc cures COVID, but well done for at least trying to discuss this intellectually.

Now, rather than read the spin put on the study by a conspiracy site with a heavy bias, I would invite you to read the study itself. You can find it here: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

Please find where in that study they conclude that vaccinations are bad as you claim. Hint: They don't.

Let's look at what they do actually conclude:

This conclusion suggests that vaccination-generated antibody and/or exogenous antibody against S protein not only protects the host from SARS-CoV-2 infectivity but also inhibits S protein-imposed endothelial injury.

So vaccines protect against endothelial injury. So the exact opposite of what the "Natural News" scam site claims.

[BADecker]

Ok I'll do it for BADecker:

None of those links are to studies or trials.

I notice BADecker is now ignoring the question. I wonder why.

None of what links?

Sign up with The Highwire, and every Monday they will email you links to the various medical and other sites they took their info from. In addition, they almost always try to give you the website of any doctor or professional they interview, right during the interview.

All you have to do is compare the CDC sites to what these professionals are saying, to see that the CDC lies all over the place. But you don't have to go that far. All you have to do is compare CDC stuff with other CDC stuff. The CDC contradicts itself all over the place.

Simply look at how many time Dr. Fauci contradicts himself about wearing or not wearing masks.

... Or, you could continue as usual, with head in hole in sand.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Sign up with The Highwire, and every Monday they will email you links to the various medical and other sites they took their info from.

So what you are saying is that there is definitely loads of evidence, but you just can't link to literally any of it, and the only way for me to access it is to give a conspiracy nut job my contact details. That sounds reliable for sure.

[BADecker]

Sign up with The Highwire, and every Monday they will email you links to the various medical and other sites they took their info from.

So what you are saying is that there is definitely loads of evidence, but you just can't link to literally any of it, and the only way for me to access it is to give a conspiracy nut job my contact details. That sounds reliable for sure.

But what is linking to evidence? What does it mean?

For example, franky1 (and others) linked to some NIH sites that were supposed to have info on virus isolation. So, I went to several of the sites - full of studies - and studied them to find the isolation-being-done part. But everything that they said was always something like, "We did the isolation, and here's the info," and they showed nothing about anybody actually doing anything. All they did was to say it was done.

You simply aren't interested, or you are trolling. But just to keep you a little happy, I'll throw out a few Highwire, Monday links from a previous, Highwire Thursday video. You would actually have to watch the video to see what was talked about so you know the significance of the links. All you need to do is sign up with them, and they will send you a list like this every Monday.

You're so interested, of course. Why not join? You don't have to watch any videos, ever, if you don't want. And they will let you cancel any time you want. Remember, the below is from just one of their video shows.


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I really wish that you and a few others in this forum could see beyond your noses.

[cmg777]

So vaccines protect against endothelial injury. So the exact opposite of what the "Natural News" scam site claims.

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and pleasing each other till you realize what the adverse affects these vaccines really have. Perhaps, your body has fought off the possible adverse affects of the first batch of the vaccine but they want you to get a booster shot? After you get the booster shot don't you think they will tell you to get another one? And so on and so on... You get the idea it never ends until you say enough is enough. The government and media are just here to help just like with the "free COVID money" which will erode your purchasing power. The media lying to you about poison pharma and other fallen products selling you on propaganda and falsehoods. At some point you have to say is enough is enough with these awful people that want to run your life.

[suchmoon]

these awful people that want to run your life

Mighty ironic considering that you choose to believe some random dipshits on the internet and their deluded misinterpretation of (or just flat-out lies about) scientific research. Hint: not everything that fits your paranoia is real.

Meanwhile I'm still not dead and according to BADecker there should be 250 million people dying in the US over the next 5 years... I did some math and based on those numbers morgues around here should be overflowing by > 10x but I'm not seeing bodies stacked into huge piles in the adjacent parking lots so I'm gonna need a new "explanation". Where do all these dead people end up? Just evaporate without trace? Can I expect cheap real estate soon since there should be so many vacant houses?

[Slow death]

@BADecker,

I wonder how difficult it can be to be a doctor and see someone like @BADecker, definitely your doctor must be a person who takes a lot of pills to calm his nerves when you go to see him for a consultation and if you were president of any country? definitely the number of deaths and people with mental problems would increase to the point of breaking the biggest world record ever

[cmg777]

these awful people that want to run your life

Mighty ironic considering that you choose to believe some random dipshits on the internet and their deluded misinterpretation of (or just flat-out lies about) scientific research. Hint: not everything that fits your paranoia is real.

Meanwhile I'm still not dead and according to BADecker there should be 250 million people dying in the US over the next 5 years... I did some math and based on those numbers morgues around here should be overflowing by > 10x but I'm not seeing bodies stacked into huge piles in the adjacent parking lots so I'm gonna need a new "explanation". Where do all these dead people end up? Just evaporate without trace? Can I expect cheap real estate soon since there should be so many vacant houses?

I'm at least saying you will not die during this batch of vaccines as shown in the flesh and gloat by your presence but perhaps by the booster shot or another vaccine thrust upon you just to do business? I'm just saying that there is a possibility you will have an adverse reaction that can lead to negative consequences to your body that could lead to death but are more than likely debilitating or lower your quality of life. I'm just saying this is all too convenient a few years before all of this they were posting news articles on being able to cure the common cold or scientifically known as a "coronavirus" with vaccines. COVID-19 is a powerful variant of the cold virus coincidence?

Perhaps you are right and it is all in my head and I should just listen blindly to the government and big media for everything. I should just convert my Crypto back to fiat for the lowest price.... because the IRS is cracking down on it. I love the media it always tells me the truth. Crypto is going nowhere because they tell me it to be true I only have one logic choice like in this poll. One opinion, no dissent I want to think like a hive minded neo-feudal serf.  Lol NOT!!! It is 2030  "I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=39b8d51a1735

At least I told you what they want next if you can gleam anything at all from my satire. I see your logic about cheap houses and no you won't be able to buy up those houses because you'll own nothing because the elite deem it to be so unless you fight back with the truth and say enough is enough. Not only that but as I said before the human body is very strong until its immune system or other major systems are compromised so I think people will live there will just be more diseases that are relevant than were in times past. Take cancer for instance 50-60 years ago it wasn't a wide spread occurrence in the general population but in select areas now it is seen everywhere. Also autism why is that going up? Chemicals and other toxins like SM-102 in this new vaccine...

[BADecker]

these awful people that want to run your life

Mighty ironic considering that you choose to believe some random dipshits on the internet and their deluded misinterpretation of (or just flat-out lies about) scientific research. Hint: not everything that fits your paranoia is real.

Meanwhile I'm still not dead and according to BADecker there should be 250 million people dying in the US over the next 5 years... I did some math and based on those numbers morgues around here should be overflowing by > 10x but I'm not seeing bodies stacked into huge piles in the adjacent parking lots so I'm gonna need a new "explanation". Where do all these dead people end up? Just evaporate without trace? Can I expect cheap real estate soon since there should be so many vacant houses?

It's starting already. This is the better way to hide the vaccine dead. You lucked out is all.

Go to the site and check the many reference links, and the emphases.


Now 20 US states liquefy vaccine-murdered people and spread their flesh goo on food crops as “fertilizer”

Now 20 US states have legalized the practice of liquefying dead people, dumping their flesh goo down the sewage drains, harvesting the sewage as “biosludge” and spreading it on food crops as a form of fertilizer. (See absolute proof of this in the state government links below.)

Welcome to 2021 in America, where the dead are liquefied and fed to the living, almost like a scene ripped right out of The Matrix.

As LifeSiteNews now confirms, Wisconsin is the latest US state to legalize this practice, which is deceptively named “water cremation.” But it uses lye as the chemical ingredient that eats away human flesh, turning it into a slimy goo that’s washed off the bones using city water. This resulting “flesh goo” — often the remains of vaccine-murdered citizens — is flushed into the city sewer system and combined with raw human feces, light industrial waste, feminine hygiene products that are flushed down toilets, and other biohazard waste, then transformed into “biosludge” which is loaded onto trucks and dumped on food farms.

I created an entire feature film documenting this process, including the interview of a former top EPA scientist who tried to blow the whistle on this practice but was threatened and professionally destroyed by the EPA. That film is available to watch (for free) at Biosludged.com.

That scientist, David Lewis, even wrote a book documenting all this called, “Science For Sale.” For attempting to blow the whistle on the EPA-approved practice of mass pollution of US crop soils with biosludge, David Lewis was threatened by government goons and stripped of all funding for his environmental research on toxic substances in soils. If you thought the “science” behind the plandemic was insane, take a peek at the criminally insane “science” the EPA uses to justify the mass pollution of America’s soils.

Just in time to dispose of all the bodies that will be generated by the covid vaccine death wave

Now, states like Wisconsin are adding liquefied human “flesh goo” remains to the biosludge cocktail, actually dumping human DNA and vaccine-originating RNA fragments onto food crops, apparently oblivious to the trans-genetic process of “transfection” that may wreak havoc on the sustainability of future food crops and soil microbiomes.

...

@BADecker,

I wonder how difficult it can be to be a doctor and see someone like @BADecker, definitely your doctor must be a person who takes a lot of pills to calm his nerves when you go to see him for a consultation and if you were president of any country? definitely the number of deaths and people with mental problems would increase to the point of breaking the biggest world record ever

No need to worry for the poor doctors. Those doctors are sick enough already. Why go to visit them? Wanna catch what they got? Not me. You go take my share. Besides, the insurance companies will soon drop doctors liability insurance for cause.


PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER

---, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), National Institutes of Health (NIH), the DHHS Secretary, the DHHS Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response, and the DHHS Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, seeking temporary injunctive relief against any existing or further authorization for use in children under the age of 16, of any of the COVID-19 "vaccines"1 that have been approved under the Emergency Use Authorization ("EUA")" MOTION FOR TRO for filing

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[suchmoon]

Not only that but as I said before the human body is very strong until its immune system or other major systems are compromised so I think people will live there will just be more diseases that are relevant than were in times past. Take cancer for instance 50-60 years ago it wasn't a wide spread occurrence in the general population but in select areas now it is seen everywhere. Also autism why is that going up? Chemicals and other toxins like SM-102 in this new vaccine...

And yet people live longer and longer and longer... how is that possible in the midst of this vaccine-induced doom?

Now 20 US states liquefy vaccine-murdered people and spread their flesh goo on food crops as “fertilizer”

Beautiful, thank you. I assume these liquefying locations are like notbatman's wall around Antarctica - definitely existing, must be humongous, impossible to find.

[cmg777]

Not only that but as I said before the human body is very strong until its immune system or other major systems are compromised so I think people will live there will just be more diseases that are relevant than were in times past. Take cancer for instance 50-60 years ago it wasn't a wide spread occurrence in the general population but in select areas now it is seen everywhere. Also autism why is that going up? Chemicals and other toxins like SM-102 in this new vaccine...

And yet people live longer and longer and longer... how is that possible in the midst of this vaccine-induced doom?

Not quite that trend has reversed for poor and middle class people their life expectancy has dwindled but for those that have money sure you are right or live in country where it is rising:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/23/why-is-life-expectancy-falling

https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-low


https://theday.co.uk/stories/western-life-expectancy-slows-in-lost-decade

[Meistro]

do vaccines kill people?  Surely.  But not getting vaccinated kills people too.  Personally, I prefer that everyone in society except me gets vaccinated.  Then I don't have to risk getting any diseases AND I don't run the risk of an adverse reaction to the vaccine.