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June 06, 2021, 06:18:51 PM
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Naturally, the benefits in terms of getting the result from prayer are exactly zero. But if the player is very nervous and prayer helps him to endure stress more easily, then why not. We must consider this as a kind of meditative practice that helps calm the nerves.
Yes, it will help them directly or not, but it is better to pray and let it happen. Playing gambling with high tension will not be good as we can not enjoy the game and maybe lead us to lose. Hopefully, prayer before gamble can help a gambler to calm down.

I hope so that's the case but as others might say "there will be nothing to lose if you just believe". But as per mention of luck and prayer I think they are in contrast on majority of religions but we aren't talking here on that I'm just reiterating it for context. I still believe it will be luck no matter what unless it really requires startegy.
It might be against most religions, but believe it or not, some people might pray to GOD before they gamble and ask for help to win the games. We do not know how it will impact their game because they will know it later. Yes, in this matter, luck will take part to win the gambling games. The pray can help them to feel confident.

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June 06, 2021, 06:44:37 PM
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Sometimes just having the courage to place bet can be the difference between winning millions, so if you ask God for luck you wouldn't know if its just your mere luck or it is really a spiritual being intervening in your life. Basically some gamblers that thinks God help them win places a higher stakes of gambling, they are willing to take the risk more often thinking that God will create a way for them to win there's no confirming it but trying it wouldn't cost you anything but seconds of time.

By the way Chinese people likes gambling and they have so many rituals and superstition regarding to gambling and luck, even businesses they see it as gambling and places different artifacts such as waving cat and frog with coins under or Buddha sitting on coins, there is a lot of things that Chinese connects on spiritual beings and I believe whether it is really helping or not it's all about the mindset and being certain on when to bet.



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June 06, 2021, 07:42:43 PM
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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
I don't think such practices influence the result of a game or bring more luck but I don't see a problem either. There are people with different beliefs and just because I feel that prayers don't matter doesn't mean they are wrong or I am right. I don't think these players are going to change anything, it only shows that gamblers are so desperate for the win.

There are times when I have big bets on sports and I am myself closing my eyes and praying but I know that doesn't mean much so it's just instincts more than anything and being nervous and curious are always the product of gambling. It also depends on what culture we come from and what belief system we have. I am sure almost everyone of us must have remembered our Gods at least once in some situation.
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June 06, 2021, 08:07:44 PM
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Gambling is a game of luck no amount of prayer would have any influence on the outcome of the result, however gamblers who imbibe in the act of praying before placing a bet do so based on their personal belief of course we have to respect their belief probably that had previously worked for them, there are also other gamblers who also prayed but still lost their bettings thus gambling is 50:50 chance it is either win or loss.
The chances aren't 50-50 firstly because there is always some house edge involved in betting which means you will always have lesser chances of winning than you might think you have.

Secondly, I strongly believe that if you pray for something you will have more luck achieving it, maybe that is because I am a spiritual person but I have seen that if you really want something and pray with a pure heart, you will get it. Although that doesn't mean I am suggesting or encouraging gamblers to pray for the win because that's greed rather than your need.

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June 06, 2021, 08:09:36 PM
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It's quite simple. If you lose a bet, whom would you blame ?
God or luck or yourself ?
Most people blame their luck and not God himself. Gambling does require a luck factor and the people who pray before gambling just do it to get the luck by their side.
But has luck ever been "called" ?
It just sometimes work and sometimes not. It has just become a habit for people to pray before they do something which rewards them something.
Perhaps by praying they wished the best for the bet.
But still, those who are so strong in their beliefs they will definitely do it and God bless them in their bets, hopefully luck will go down maybe that's all, but I think this is indeed a factor and destiny where gambling can produce for me is entirely luck, gambling is not a strategy game but only see if you are lucky or not when placing a gambling bet.
This do really depends on someones belief because we do have different level when it comes to this manner on where there are really some religious and there are some which are not. Luck cant really be influenced nor forced to go down and would really be on your side no matter how hard you do pray.
Divine intervention doesnt really work on this part but since people do really make out some beliefs then let them be.Its just their own belief that prayers could really effective on changing up someones fate but the truth is that it wont really changed a thing at all and if they won then its just coincidence.

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June 06, 2021, 08:20:47 PM
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There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
And that's why if you're praying for luck and you want to win as you gamble, your prayers won't be heard. Your luck comes unexpectedly and there's no need for a prayer with that.

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June 06, 2021, 08:58:52 PM
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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)?
Did it work?

If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio.
If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Well, if you believe these spiritual things like you prayed before placing a bet, --that will not work for me.
Because in the first place, gambling is not for good spiritual worship, it is against it so I think don't involve prayer on the gambling because that will not work. Remember that God is against gambling and in the Islamic religion, this is a mortal sin from them. Just gamble and place a bet if you want and don't ask that you will win. However, this will perhaps belong to the superstitious belief and there is nothing we can argue if one of us believes you in that way before you will place your bet.









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June 06, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
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Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?

No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.

It's common that some people are praying as part of the thinking that it will increase the chances of winning. There is no unusual to that. The same way as you pray to e.g acceptance to a job, expecting a good salary, you will now receive a YES to your girlfriend and so on.

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June 06, 2021, 09:34:41 PM
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There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.

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June 06, 2021, 09:50:04 PM
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There is no connection with your prayers and gambling. That two are conflicting each other. The teachings in religions are that they don't agree with gambling.
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It really may depend on which religion you are looking at. Not all religions are against gambling. In particular, I'm thinking of polytheistic religions and religions without divine deities.
Recreational gambling, for example, is perfectly fine under Buddhist philosophy and Islam is the only major religion that opposes gambling outright. The other religions tolerate the activity to some extent.
I tend to think of just a few religion that's mostly with the most members and they're against gambling. But you're right that there are some religions that are agree to gambling as long as it's what on their hand book or any rule that they should follow.
I forgot about Buddhism and thanks for reminding with that info.

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June 06, 2021, 11:44:59 PM
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If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?

This is too much for a discussion. We should already know that there's no such thing as a direct connection to prayers and gambling.

Both parties are praying so why should GOD will have to choose one. There is no such thing as who will be favored there. Let's debunk that idea.

Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

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June 07, 2021, 03:01:42 AM
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I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

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June 07, 2021, 03:51:29 AM
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If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
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June 07, 2021, 04:27:02 AM
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No pun intended but is that even a question? I mean, obviously, how can be spiritual, religious or something along those lines can influence our gambling activity and experience? Those acts mean that those people are hoping for the best and no way the MAN above will spend time manipulating the result for those who pray lol.
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Exactly, that's exactly how I see it. People like to give away responsibility for their actions and believe that a "higher power" will control them and intervene if they believe in it strongly enough.

This can work very well in some areas of life, for example, it has been shown in studies that believing people can get through serious illnesses better (with a higher sense of well-being). In gambling, however, only one power counts: chance (exceptions like poker confirm the rule, of course).

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June 07, 2021, 05:43:45 AM
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I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

I think this is a belief that has positive suggestions for its users. For many people the habit of starting the action with prayer is something that can be trusted to make it easier. Although sometimes the path has been determined we have to try, maybe including gambling. In addition to predicting they also pray to those they believe in, even though they know it is wrong.
So I think it's their right, I will respect any differences. They have a culture and routine that does not harm us.

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June 07, 2021, 05:54:43 AM
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If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Prayers are just to seek some luck from Above. I even do this especially if it involved a big amount at stake. Smiley

Which is essentially the same as a kind of prayer or seeking favor from whoever that is from above. And if two of you having opposite bets are both seeking luck from above, how would that someone from above choose who is to become lucky and who is not?

In the end, luck is something beyond our control and even our prayers and it actually does not matter whether we are seeking some luck from above or not.
If that so, only GOD will know and that gambler will see what is the result. Of course, that can make a gambler will sad if they lose and vice versa. That will happen in gambling, and even we both pray together with one purpose to win, which will depend on our luck. So we need to think twice about luck and we can still pray before we gamble.

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June 07, 2021, 05:58:40 AM
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I don't know about you people but what the people are doing doesn't have anything to do with the spirits or incorporeal beings, and any person who says so is just making excuses for their actions. Think of it like a tradition that people do before doing something like trying to depend it all in fate because they have no control over what comes next.

Their is no scientific way at present which proves that prayer does not have any connection with gambling or even otherwise. So it is belief of each individual that drives them to pray or not. If for someone if they think it does make difference then better for them because in the end well being of each one either financially or health wise etc is the utmost important. So let things continue if it is bringing good results in the end.

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June 07, 2021, 08:26:12 AM
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Well, speaking as someone who has been working in the industry and understands how outcomes work, I can't say that prayers work. In online casinos, there's the Random Number Generator. Its only function is to give random outcomes. One may pray for a 26 on online roulette or I don't know, for a winning or bonus round on slots. The chances for it to happen with or without prayers are the same. Random Number Generators are machines that don't care about anything else and aren't influenced by anything else (unless rigged, but that's another story and very unlikely at reputable casinos).

Even as a religious person, I also don't mix gambling and praying. I've always believed that praying is for special occasions and 'big' things like good health, surviving through especially hard times, etc. Sure, even in my career I'd find myself hoping that I'll be especially lucky and successful. But I generally believe that most things in life depend on my actions as a person and I wouldn't want to bother God with trivial things.

Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  Cheesy

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June 07, 2021, 08:57:43 AM
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Pray all you want but that does not mean anything.If a bet is meant to be a win it will be a win and if it is not meant to be a win it will not be a win.Those guys who you see just lie to themselves and in a psychological way it makes them feel better while they are waiting for the outcome of their bets.I am sure that when their bet is lost their psychological status will be the sadness everyone feels when they lose a bet.Prayer has nothing to do with gambling.

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June 07, 2021, 10:40:28 AM
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Whenever I win or succeed in anything tho, I always say 'Thank you God' even though I didn't even pray for that specific thing and worked really hard to achieve it.  Cheesy
That is what we will say if we can achieve a good result. But we might say, "Oh, damn, it should not happen to me Grin

Praying can give a positive feeling to someone and that increase confidence. But gambling is at a grey side of our life, so when we pray, we ask GOD help to help us win the game. Sometimes, GOD will allow us to win, but the other time, we will lose. We can let people pray or do whatever they like to win the games.

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