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August 23, 2021, 10:09:31 AM
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It seems to me that for the top English football teams there is only one important international club competition and that is only the Champions League.
All other international football competitions are not interesting enough for them and they do not try too hard and do not play with the best players, unless the opportunity arises to win a place in the Champions League.  Grin

The fact is that teams receive much more for broadcasting Premier League matches than for participating in the Europa Conference League, and accordingly, the Primier League is the priority tournament for them. But remember last season, when Manchester United fought in the Europa League and reached the final. Arsenal did not perform badly either, but personally for me it was clear that the team was playing half-heartedly, maybe I'm wrong and this is my personal opinion.

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August 23, 2021, 01:30:51 PM
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It seems to me that for the top English football teams there is only one important international club competition and that is only the Champions League.
All other international football competitions are not interesting enough for them and they do not try too hard and do not play with the best players, unless the opportunity arises to win a place in the Champions League.  Grin

The fact is that teams receive much more for broadcasting Premier League matches than for participating in the Europa Conference League, and accordingly, the Primier League is the priority tournament for them. But remember last season, when Manchester United fought in the Europa League and reached the final. Arsenal did not perform badly either, but personally for me it was clear that the team was playing half-heartedly, maybe I'm wrong and this is my personal opinion.

The premier league and champions league are more lucrative for the teams and better advertising for the players. With the Italian teams you see it again and again that the Europa League is not taken so seriously, and this will certainly not be better in the Europa Conference League which is still a step below.

About the games on Thursday, many teams already have a good starting position for the second leg. How seriously will Roma and Tottenham take it?




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August 23, 2021, 03:37:43 PM
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About the games on Thursday, many teams already have a good starting position for the second leg. How seriously will Roma and Tottenham take it?

It is common for teams to devalue smaller European competitions.
But Roma, from Mourinho, will want to show themselves not only in Italy but also in Europe.
Tottenham, I think they will do everything to win after losing in the first leg, against a team of a much lower level. I think they undervalued the first leg a lot, and they were surprised, they will certainly face the game differently. But they are at greater risk.

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August 23, 2021, 08:19:29 PM
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About the games on Thursday, many teams already have a good starting position for the second leg. How seriously will Roma and Tottenham take it?

It is common for teams to devalue smaller European competitions.
But Roma, from Mourinho, will want to show themselves not only in Italy but also in Europe.
Tottenham, I think they will do everything to win after losing in the first leg, against a team of a much lower level. I think they undervalued the first leg a lot, and they were surprised, they will certainly face the game differently. But they are at greater risk.


Even though Roma managed to secure victory in that match, AS Roma looked quite difficult to beat trabzonspor and even though it was very apparent that the trabzonspor game made the roma defense have to work hard and even rui patricio had to make several brilliant saves to keep the goal from conceding,
I think the leg the second one will be a tough match for Roma.
But Morinho should have smiled for his first game in europa league this season and I don't think that smile was because of Roma win but maybe he smiled seeing Tottenham lose  Grin Grin.

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August 23, 2021, 08:23:38 PM
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Roma played very well yesterday night in Serie A as they beat a strong team like Fiorentina and this says a lot about them.They will have no problems in the return leg against Trabzonspor,they simply have much better quality players compared to the Turkish side.Beside that they are playing at home in this return leg and chances are extremely high they will pass through during this turn in Europa Conference League.

Mourinho it looks like he is finding himself back again in Serie A like he did with Inter in 2010 when he won everything at that year.

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August 24, 2021, 08:58:27 AM
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Roma played very well yesterday night in Serie A as they beat a strong team like Fiorentina and this says a lot about them.They will have no problems in the return leg against Trabzonspor,they simply have much better quality players compared to the Turkish side.Beside that they are playing at home in this return leg and chances are extremely high they will pass through during this turn in Europa Conference League.

Mourinho it looks like he is finding himself back again in Serie A like he did with Inter in 2010 when he won everything at that year.

To be fair though Roma were at least expected to draw,,, and Mourinho already knows very well how to lead a team into Europe,,, we remember I am sure how well he did in his first season for Manchester United!

I hope he finds his game yes. Good manager and wonderful when he pushes a "small" team into the upper reaches. Roma was in late stage of Champions League not too long ago however. So he has to bring them back to that stage.

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August 26, 2021, 03:21:28 PM
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Any thoughts about Spurs game today? Personally, I won't bet on this game until I will se Spurs squad.
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August 26, 2021, 04:03:44 PM
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Roma played very well yesterday night in Serie A as they beat a strong team like Fiorentina and this says a lot about them.They will have no problems in the return leg against Trabzonspor,they simply have much better quality players compared to the Turkish side.Beside that they are playing at home in this return leg and chances are extremely high they will pass through during this turn in Europa Conference League.

Mourinho it looks like he is finding himself back again in Serie A like he did with Inter in 2010 when he won everything at that year.
It is still very early to talk about any achievements or results, only the beginning of the season and everything can still change. I don't have as much faith in Mourinho as you do. I see in him a very great disposition and intransigence, which ultimately leads to great conflicts in the team, and as a result, the decline in results. I hope that Mourinho was able to draw conclusions from this and with Roma he will be able to achieve great results. Today for Roma will have enough draw to go further, and Mourinho loves to dry matches very much, if it suits him.

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What a big odd and expected win for Partizan at home against Santa Clara 2-0 at halftime and finished 2-0 . Santa clara didnt have 1 chance in the entire match. Also what an achivement by Lincoln red imps from Gibrlatar to reach a group stage of any europe competition

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Lincoln Red Imps - Riga - away win @2.15. I don't believe that Gibraltar team can reach group stage.

I guess this is the year of surprises, Sheriff made history yesterday by becoming the first team from Moldova to reach the CL group stages.

Flora Tallinn and Lincoln Red Imps both qualified for the group phase of the Conference League today. I'm not 100% sure, but i believe an Estonian team has also never made groups before, so it's a triumphant week for smaller nations, exactly what UEFA has hoped for creating this league.

By the way, Lincoln Red Imps have a significant advantage playing at home. I watched their home game against Cluj last month, and i can tell you they play on the worst artificial turf i've ever seen, not to mention that their stadium has a low profile and is very close to the sea allowing for sudden bursts of wind, in short, the absolute worst place you can play football.

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August 26, 2021, 11:39:13 PM
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I watched Roma - Trabzonspor game and occasionally checked Copenhagen - Sivasspor game. Even though Trabzonspor players tried to score early Cornelius injured and had to go off. Roma showed class and experience, they got what they needed to advance. We had bigger expectations for Trabzonspor but they failed. Copenhagen game was a disaster for Sivasspor, after the first game we thought they can show some strength but Copenhagen led the game from start to finish and gave no chance to Sivasspor. After these results Conference League is over for Turkish teams.

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Even though Roma managed to secure victory in that match, AS Roma looked quite difficult to beat trabzonspor and even though it was very apparent that the trabzonspor game made the roma defense have to work hard and even rui patricio had to make several brilliant saves to keep the goal from conceding
Roma scored first but they struggled to manage that advantage in the late of first half and early of second half. After the second goal, Roma controlled the match and Transponzor almost gave up.

Zaniolo has his first goal in official match for Roma after his serious injury. His toughest time in his career is over and Mourinho considers Zaniolo as one of key players in his squad.

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3 goals are enough for Roma to secure their ticket in this pair. With the ability of Mourinho to play strict defense, Roma will win in net result.

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August 27, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
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Even though Roma managed to secure victory in that match, AS Roma looked quite difficult to beat trabzonspor and even though it was very apparent that the trabzonspor game made the roma defense have to work hard and even rui patricio had to make several brilliant saves to keep the goal from conceding
Roma scored first but they struggled to manage that advantage in the late of first half and early of second half. After the second goal, Roma controlled the match and Transponzor almost gave up.

Zaniolo has his first goal in official match for Roma after his serious injury. His toughest time in his career is over and Mourinho considers Zaniolo as one of key players in his squad.

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I think the leg the second one will be a tough match for Roma.
3 goals are enough for Roma to secure their ticket in this pair. With the ability of Mourinho to play strict defense, Roma will win in net result.
Actually based on statistics, Trabzonspor is superior in possession with a percentage of 60% versus 40% and Roma's 3-0 victory over Trabzonspor on aggregate in the second leg 5-1 and in the first leg 2-1, and Roma certainly qualify for the group stage.
and Jose Mourinho was very successful in fielding his best squad when
Roma against Trabzonspor like Tammy Abraham, Lorenzo Pellegrini, Nicolo Zaniolo and Rui Patricio.
I was moved when Italy midfielder Nicolo Zaniolo burst into tears during the celebration because it was his first goal since July 2020.


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August 27, 2021, 05:35:12 AM
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Trabzonspor did not start the game badly. But they could not show a game as they wanted and unfortunately could not find a score. If there weren't any injuries, maybe they'd have a chance.
After Rome scored the second goal, the match was already over, the control of the game passed completely to Rome. If Trabzonspor had scored an early goal, they could have won the match Smiley

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August 27, 2021, 06:03:11 AM
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Trabzonspor did not start the game badly. But they could not show a game as they wanted and unfortunately could not find a score. If there weren't any injuries, maybe they'd have a chance.
After Rome scored the second goal, the match was already over, the control of the game passed completely to Rome. If Trabzonspor had scored an early goal, they could have won the match Smiley
Roma is in better condition right now and with a slight advantage, Trabzonspor has few chances to pass it.
Almost all the clubs I know passed, Copenhagen, Rennes, Gent, Lask, Union, Spurs, Partizan. BTW Hammarby did a nice comeback but lost at the end with penalty kicks vs Basel

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August 27, 2021, 06:21:38 AM
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raków will now face the belgian club gent and santa clara will meet partizan belgrade ... here a progress of the two teams would be a very big surprise
Surprise, but not impossible. Gent struggled against RFS Riga. Rakow is better team than Riga, so I expect that it won't be easy for Gent. One interesting thing about Rakow - they scored just 1 goal in 4 qualifying games. They failed to score against Suduva in both games and scored against Rubin only in extra time.

the first legs of the two clubs are now over and both teams won their games.
raków defeated gent 1-0 and santa clara won their home game 2-1 against partizan - for me two little surprises

unfortunately, the two clubs from poland and portugal did not make it to the group stage. in the second legs, both clubs suffered clear defeats (0-3 raków & 0-2 santa clara) Tongue
today the group draw will take place - let's see which groups will be formed then

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August 27, 2021, 06:47:23 AM
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Last night I watched the match between Rijeka and PAOK and there was an obvious difference in quality, Rijeka had no chance.
In fact, it is a miracle that PAOK did not beat Rijeka in the first game, but it is obvious that they are not completely ready yet, considering that the Greek championship has not started yet.
In the group stage of the competition PAOK will have a good chance to pass the group.

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Last night I watched the match between Rijeka and PAOK and there was an obvious difference in quality, Rijeka had no chance.
In fact, it is a miracle that PAOK did not beat Rijeka in the first game, but it is obvious that they are not completely ready yet, considering that the Greek championship has not started yet.
In the group stage of the competition PAOK will have a good chance to pass the group.
From the statistical records we can get the total goal attempts generated from both teams, in that note it is clear that both teams have a lot of efforts to make goals and so basically they have the same chance to win. Then, PAOK can win and qualify, I think that is the result that should be obtained. The match schedule factor is clear, PAOK has a free schedule because the league has not started and that is a factor where PAOK can put its focus only on this tournament. In contrast to Rijeka, at least Rijeka must share the focus for this tournament and also the league that makes players' stamina change.

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August 27, 2021, 08:56:59 AM
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Trabzonspor did not start the game badly. But they could not show a game as they wanted and unfortunately could not find a score. If there weren't any injuries, maybe they'd have a chance.
After Rome scored the second goal, the match was already over, the control of the game passed completely to Rome. If Trabzonspor had scored an early goal, they could have won the match Smiley
In that match As Roma dominated the game from the beginning of the first half and it was seen that As Roma continued to confine the Trabzonspor defense, especially As Roma only won 2-1 in the first leg so it is certain that the result is still too risky to guarantee As Roma qualified for the next round, As roma  second leg game, in my opinion has started to improve compared to their appearance in the first leg, in the first leg As roma players lost too many balls and at that time the lack of coordination between players made As roma conceded 1 goal in the match .

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August 27, 2021, 12:04:11 PM
 #160

in again the last match of the day, Partizan won over Santa Clara to reach Group stage, congrats

Tottenham proved worth a risk, and Lincoln reached group stage, made history for Gibraltar, as well as Flora from Estonia, they reached group stage as well, not sure about previous group stages in any competition for them?
nevertheless, did not saw any major upset in this qualification round, all went as expected



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