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Poker casino needs kyc because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.
But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them. Making KYC mandatory will make people leave the casino and more than 40% of the users will not use the platform if there is KYC. People play online gambling because they want privacy and they do not want to disclose their identity. There could be number of reason for that and everyone has the right to maintain privacy.
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Right, I agree with you, it's better for us to do KYC after we register on the site, but of course we must also make sure that the site is really trusted and can guarantee to maintain our personal identity, because doing KYC has risks if This site is an untrusted site and they can misuse our data as a tool to cheat. I see that many members here have experience with difficulty making large withdrawals and KYC is the reason. That should always go without saying because if you know that it's a shady site in the first place, it's already a common sense to not give your information for the supposed KYC verification. But besides all of that, it's better to have KYC than nothing.
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August 31, 2021, 01:19:40 PM |
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But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today... None casino asks for KYC documents when it comes to certain games. They ask for KYC documents in overall, when you use their platform/services. I believe not every casino wants to ask for KYC and make their customers uncomfortable but sometimes they are pushed by the government and the regulations that is in the area where they operate. Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right? When you use online casino, even if it is crypto one, you have to acknowledge the risk of asking KYC in order to withdraw from casinos, especially if we consider the fact that cryptocurrencies are getting more and more regulated and recently the number of crypto casinos asking for KYC has significantly rised. What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform? Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money? I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity?
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August 31, 2021, 01:28:55 PM |
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Poker casino needs kyc because they have launched these activities to increase the reliability of their site there are currently no resources available to verify kyc status online some specific like have introduced a column in the kyc status section, but it is currently empty, we hope it will start displaying the kyc status appropriately. Gambling activities are kyc driven about the situation of the financial entity that is processing your kyc application.
But some online casinos will not use KYC for their members as they do not want to lose their members because KYC in crypto gambling is something that a gambler will stay away from the site. Maybe some gamblers will not have a problem by sending their document, but for the other, they will search for the other crypto gambling site. But the casino really knows about KYC so they do not force their members who do not withdraw big money to doing KYC. If the online casino does that, that will be a win-win solution for them. Making KYC mandatory will make people leave the casino and more than 40% of the users will not use the platform if there is KYC. People play online gambling because they want privacy and they do not want to disclose their identity. There could be number of reason for that and everyone has the right to maintain privacy. Where did you get that number (40%), did you do some studies/researches to get the number or it is just a random wild guess? Believe it or not, KYC will be a mandatory in all online services especially where money is involved. It is due to regulation, can be from the government or from the license. I was one of user who did against KYC but terms/rules are changing from time to time and I have to accept it if I want to use the service regularly.
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August 31, 2021, 01:33:31 PM |
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I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity? I reinforce what I said earlier about KYC. For those who intend to bet on gambling just for fun and not for profit, you shouldn't be obliged to submit your data's person. After all, that person is just consuming a service. But... if the intention is to withdraw money (or crypto) from these services, then yes, KYC is required and I don't see anything against the site demanding this from customers. Provided, of course, they are advised of these rules in advance, not just when it's time to withdraw.
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August 31, 2021, 01:46:54 PM |
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KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.
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August 31, 2021, 02:54:58 PM |
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I am against KYC, yeah, I don't like them but at the same time think about this, don't you want to know who are your customers? What if illegal transaction is made through your platform and then the government asks you for the users identity? I reinforce what I said earlier about KYC. For those who intend to bet on gambling just for fun and not for profit, you shouldn't be obliged to submit your data's person. After all, that person is just consuming a service. But... if the intention is to withdraw money (or crypto) from these services, then yes, KYC is required and I don't see anything against the site demanding this from customers. Provided, of course, they are advised of these rules in advance, not just when it's time to withdraw. I agree to this one. However, there are gambling sites that will not let you play your unless you are a verified user in their platform, and others are just gonna remind you about the KYC if you're withdrawing the money (if it's big amount of winnings, something you're gonna have a hard time in completing your KYC) like they don't want you to have your winnings. The only cons for me of submitting KYC is; 1. They might use it on something illegal
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August 31, 2021, 03:37:12 PM |
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I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!
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August 31, 2021, 03:51:36 PM |
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KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.
I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC.
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August 31, 2021, 03:59:57 PM |
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KYC verification means your safety will be publicly for the Casino people to understand your profile and your true identity that's why in recent times all the types of casinos try to to implement this KYC process to make it more trustable and more safer for the and investors that's why I also think that this will be e necessary for the investors.
I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC. Websites stores the collected data safely but we can often read that databases on this platform got leaked even many service providers are not encrypting the collected data which makes the job very easier for the hackers and they will sell it on the darkweb which also we can find if we brose random topics from that only we are receiving unnecessary advertisements to our emails including our actual name and also SMS to out mobile numbers.
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August 31, 2021, 04:10:25 PM |
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I think that you're misunderstanding the idea of KYC, the only one that will see your personal infor is the website and the only public one that's shown is the status whether you're already verified. KYC is helpful if you don't want something to happen to you like having some sort of an issue with your withdrawals deposits and sometimes wins as this is the most common issues faced by people that don't have any KYC.
KYC is needed nowadays especially that were in online transactions, it’s too hard to assess whether the money comes from scam or money laundering so it is needed bu the company even casinos to atleast have KYC before doing any transactions or atleast for the bigger amounts for documents if something happen. As well government interferring now in online gambling so they should have record for some business filing. We just need to make sure that the KYC process is run by a legit company.
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August 31, 2021, 04:28:11 PM |
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I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!
Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused. and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC. And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things.
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Hello guys, Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app. Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right? And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC. What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform? Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money? I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is such a shame that something like that happened to you but this is why it is important to read reviews and read the TOS of the website before you make any deposit, I know that having to go through KYC policies no matter what is very annoying and it is not something I want to do either but at the end of the day you are the one that picked up the casino and decided to play there, I hope you can resolve the situation and next time be a little bit more careful.
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this is actually very reasonable to do because there are indeed several casinos or gambling sites that do the same thing (do KYC). this is of course done not without reason, because indeed this is done at least to make it easier to identify the perpetrators in the gambling itself. but on the other hand especially in the opposite corner (gambler's side) this is actually both an advantage and a disadvantage. advantageous because indeed with KYC verification it can make access easier because it is already registered and has been accessed on its own behalf and it will automatically be difficult for others to manipulate it, but on the other hand it will be detrimental because it will be easy to record anywhere and will be caught when we do gambling.
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August 31, 2021, 06:22:28 PM |
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I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!
Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused. and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC. And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things. We could really have always the options if we wanted to because each of us does have different perception towards kyc.Some doesnt really matter but most of us would really be that mindful. We are aware about identity thefts or something like that but we should realize that we had been long time exposing our personal identity to the government but somehow if we do consider the security of those informations compared into those unknown company online then you would really be having different perception between two things so its up to you neither you would go or not.
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Hello guys, Surely everyone here has played Poker at least once, or heard about it, right? Poker is not a strange game, and it is available in all famous casinos in this space, at least the ones that I know. But, have you ever been asked for KYC to be able to play and withdraw in Poker? Rarely do I see a casino asking for that, until today I have access to a new platform where we play Poker PvP on a download app. Speaking of KYC, I'm sure most people here don't want their identities revealed anywhere, and KYC is something really bad that we always want to avoid, even when A highly regarded project. No way we can use crypto to stay anonymous and then do KYC so they know exactly who we are, where we are, what we do, right? And that's what I'm talking about here, a crypto casino but requires their users KYC to be able to withdraw funds from the platform to their wallets. It really makes no sense, even with small transactions of only a few dozen, a few hundred dollars. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Yesterday, I was introduced to a new gambling platform by a friend, namely that I can play Poker there directly with other people through their app. Since this is my first time gambling with a downloadable app, I am quite interested and want to experiment with it. After doing my registration as well as linking my wallet, I consider withdrawing, and luckily when I review it, they need KYC. What do you think about this issue? Do you want to do KYC just for gambling on any platform? Also added that they are giving new users registered through their referral link some money, and they also require KYC to receive it. I heard that this amount is up to 200$, if you are, would you like to sell your identity to get this money? I won't post information about that platform, because I don't want to be told that I'm promoting them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) About 5 years ago it used to be much more free and open when it came to playing online poker - as long as you had access to a credit/debit card they were willing to take your money (presumably using that to validate you were old enough). However I have definitely noticed that all the old places that I used to play now require you to send quite extensive documentation - personal ID scans, bank statement scans, utility bills, etc. in order to verify. They must be afraid of government crackdowns and take the most extreme measures to stay within money laundering regulations. It's quite disappointing in a way because I don't really trust these places to store such documentation safely and securely, nor to dispose of it after they've finished checking them.
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August 31, 2021, 07:40:36 PM |
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This is a very negative trend.
There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world.
People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights. About the Declaration of Human Rights. One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence. I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence.
I am innocent and trustworthy by default. KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle.
Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.
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August 31, 2021, 08:15:27 PM |
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This is a very negative trend.
There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world.
People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights. About the Declaration of Human Rights. One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence. I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence.
I am innocent and trustworthy by default. KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle.
Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.
I agree that KYC will just incentive people to fake documents and to have less privacy nothing new under the sun for governments but this also brings the possibility for people to create permissionless Dapps for gambling that have no KYC and are provably fair
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August 31, 2021, 08:24:53 PM |
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I avoid KYC all the time, because databases with information and documents of site members very often go online after hacker attacks... Or dishonest website owners sell all the information on the darknet... This is a fact! I urge everyone to avoid KYC... You don't have to show your identity online, just give your crypto-address (for example)... I think there are many other options instead of KYC!
Yes, even if the casino has a valid operating license and has to use KYC, the concern will remain for fear of having my identity misused. and i play gambling just for fun and not to make money so for me no need to send my personal id, because i realize gambling is not a good way to make money so i totally avoid KYC. And when I want to try a new gambling site and I am required to use KYC I will go and I will look for a site that does not require KYC to avoid unwanted things. ^ I know how paranoid to think submitting KYC on the platform that we can't trust, but for me, if there is an option of having KYC in basic information, just like your name, email address, and phone number, that is alright because that is a basic KYC, but it different if the casino required your valid ID and together with your selfie, that is totally different and most likely I avoided. But if that is a basic KYC, there is no problem with me. Sometimes a regulated and have license exchange required to have KYC just to follow the country's jurisdiction. To tell you frankly, it is very comfortable to gamble on a gambling site that has a license.
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August 31, 2021, 10:24:21 PM |
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This is a very negative trend.
There is less and less anonymity and privacy in the world.
People are less and less likely to remember their basic civil rights. About the Declaration of Human Rights. One of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence. I am not obliged to prove my trustworthiness and innocence.
I am innocent and trustworthy by default. KYC in online casinos violates this basic principle.
Therefore, I am fundamentally against KYC in poker casinos.
For sure. But unfortunately there is generally nothing that the sportsbooks can actually do in order to gain immunity from government regulations. It's just a matter of life that you'd have to live with. Thankfully there are still alternatives out there that offer KYC-free services to players, including well known names such as Nitrogen and Stake. Hopefully they don't turn sour any time soon.
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