[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant

[plr]

In the words of the legendary Mike Tyson ‘Everybody has a plan until they are punched in the mouth’ this is why predicting the outcome of a fight is always difficult as a single punch can be more than enough to change the whole fight, and what better example than the Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz connected Joshua with a punch behind his ear and since that moment Joshua was unable to recover and this created one of the biggest upsets during this decade.

This only applies to weak fighters or fighters who underestimate their opponent, Canelo is not a weak fighter or one who underestimates his opponents, he only comes prepared and with plans to execute, and he executed those plans perfectly, in boxing planning and preparation is very important, Canelo is the kind of fighter with a lot of plans in his arsenal and he employs it at the right time and at the right opponent.

[TravelMug]

Unless Plant has that advantage, there is a chance that he can upset Canelo but going toe to toe might be a dangerous plan for him as Canelo is well known to have a granite chin and Plant might be the one to go down if this scenario happens in the ring.

Agree. Every possible way to defeat Canelo needs risky actions - fight the guy within his comfort zone and try to find a hole to pinned him down. It's no secret that fighting Canelo in close combat is like saying "no choice" although Caleb surely knows that and already plans on how to at least takes advantage against Canelo.

Caleb knows the distance between him and Canelo so surely he's been in the situation already that he undergoes a brainstorming on how to defeat the dominant Canelo and try to upset the fight.

And we haven't seen Canelo really getting in the danger zone so we really don't know how he will react if he was behind the scorecard or something.

That chin though hasn't been broken so it will be a big job for Plant to even land a flush shot on Canelo's chin. If he has power then maybe Canelo will feel that, but after that he could recover as well. One way is to really box Canelo, like what Lara did years ago as he was close to upset Canelo that time. But Caleb Plant is no boxer as he is a square foot fighter and willing to go toe to toe.

[Dave1]

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They still have time to practice some kind of unique skills to surprise each other because as we saw yesterday, an unexpected strategy is the most effective one. No matter how good your opponent if you come with a nice and smooth strategy that will leave him clueless to counter, he won't gonna beat you, or you might end up winning with TKO because upsets will make your opponent lose control of the fight.

Not really in my opinion, this isn't an eSports, what they need to do is outsmart each other because this match and I suppose every boxing match is a mind game that can make someone win if they are successful outsmarting them, of course the punches and endurance are a part of it too but dumb punches don't win matches.

Skills and knowledge about how your opponents fought, this has big impacts in every fight.

Whoever fighter inside the ring they are all after the lapses coming from their opponents, once they've seen a good opening they will grab it immediately knowing that it won't be always there for them, both fighters have that capabilities to win only fans and analyst gives their own opinions about the fighter but if chance gives them some good insight, they will take it down to win the fight.

In the words of the legendary Mike Tyson ‘Everybody has a plan until they are punched in the mouth’ this is why predicting the outcome of a fight is always difficult as a single punch can be more than enough to change the whole fight, and what better example than the Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz connected Joshua with a punch behind his ear and since that moment Joshua was unable to recover and this created one of the biggest upsets during this decade.

That is true, but you have to understand that Joshua was overlooking Ruiz that time and thinking ahead of a Fury fight, and he avenge his defeat. And same as where you got your quote with, Tyson was upset by Buster Douglas, a 42:1 underdog.

But don't you think that Canelo is underestimating Caleb Plant? I doubt that, he has a good team behind him, guiding him on every direction. Unless he was hit by Plant like a hail mary shot in the chin or in his ear, then we might see an upset.

[Sithara007]

That is true, but you have to understand that Joshua was overlooking Ruiz that time and thinking ahead of a Fury fight, and he avenge his defeat. And same as where you got your quote with, Tyson was upset by Buster Douglas, a 42:1 underdog.

But don't you think that Canelo is underestimating Caleb Plant? I doubt that, he has a good team behind him, guiding him on every direction. Unless he was hit by Plant like a hail mary shot in the chin or in his ear, then we might see an upset.

I wasn't even following boxing in 1990 when Buster Douglas scored a KO victory over Mike Tyson. But it just shows how common upsets are in professional boxing. If the odds given above are true, then this has to be one of the biggest upsets in any sporting event. And I am sure that Caleb Plant has much better odds than +4200. The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

[agustina2]

Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

Can't feel the same about the fight between Canelo and Caleb. These guys are on the prime and since they are on prime they should have an equal provided odds but it's not. Caleb Plant is a strong boxer too, a champion and ranked as 2nd best active super-middleweight but with the odds provided, he just becomes an ordinary boxer against Canelo. Now you should get my point.

Goodluck with your bet. Upset means a big profit to you.

[coin-investor]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

[Ziskinberg]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

Not everyone thinks that the favorite will win, mostly, it's called an upset if the betting odds of the favorites are very high that he is not likely to lose, just like the Pacquiao vs Ugas, the odds of Ugas is only +275 and he is even the champion, and yet when he defeated Pacquiao, we called it an upset. 

[Jating]

That is true, but you have to understand that Joshua was overlooking Ruiz that time and thinking ahead of a Fury fight, and he avenge his defeat. And same as where you got your quote with, Tyson was upset by Buster Douglas, a 42:1 underdog.

But don't you think that Canelo is underestimating Caleb Plant? I doubt that, he has a good team behind him, guiding him on every direction. Unless he was hit by Plant like a hail mary shot in the chin or in his ear, then we might see an upset.

I wasn't even following boxing in 1990 when Buster Douglas scored a KO victory over Mike Tyson. But it just shows how common upsets are in professional boxing. If the odds given above are true, then this has to be one of the biggest upsets in any sporting event. And I am sure that Caleb Plant has much better odds than +4200. The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

Why not, maybe he can pull one of the biggest upset or not. That's why boxing is very unpredictable because it will only take one punch to change the outcome. And if you really like the underdog, then Caleb Plant is a live one here.

Canelo though looks invincible to me, he is just about to get into the peak of his boxing career, skills wise and he has a good coach as well. In any case, good luck to your bet.

[DoublerHunter]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

^ That is possible for Caleb even it seems he is probably an underdog here and the odds were in favor of Alvarez, that is right, we can compare this fight to the fight of Manny Pacquaio and not all underdog has no chance to win. This is a very interesting fight and the perfect match, they are almost the same stat that could be anytime Caleb will possibly be upset Alvarez in the middle of the 12 rounds.
The odds are here, https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/saul-alvarez-v-caleb-plant/winner, there is a chance that Caleb will probably become in a favor of the odds.

[Hypnosis00]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

^ That is possible for Caleb even it seems he is probably an underdog here and the odds were in favor of Alvarez, that is right, we can compare this fight to the fight of Manny Pacquaio and not all underdog has no chance to win. This is a very interesting fight and the perfect match, they are almost the same stat that could be anytime Caleb will possibly be upset Alvarez in the middle of the 12 rounds.
The odds are here, https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/saul-alvarez-v-caleb-plant/winner, there is a chance that Caleb will probably become in a favor of the odds.

Caleb at +600, that's a pretty decent odd and I understand why Canelo is heavily favored because he beat all his opponents this year without any struggle. Put him an opponent of any size and he will dismantle it, he becomes a technical fighter, he works using his mind and you can see why he is very smart in the ring, not too aggressive to KO an opponent but always find an opening to hurt his opponent.

[AmoreJaz]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

^ That is possible for Caleb even it seems he is probably an underdog here and the odds were in favor of Alvarez, that is right, we can compare this fight to the fight of Manny Pacquaio and not all underdog has no chance to win. This is a very interesting fight and the perfect match, they are almost the same stat that could be anytime Caleb will possibly be upset Alvarez in the middle of the 12 rounds.
The odds are here, https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/saul-alvarez-v-caleb-plant/winner, there is a chance that Caleb will probably become in a favor of the odds.

Caleb at +600, that's a pretty decent odd and I understand why Canelo is heavily favored because he beat all his opponents this year without any struggle. Put him an opponent of any size and he will dismantle it, he becomes a technical fighter, he works using his mind and you can see why he is very smart in the ring, not too aggressive to KO an opponent but always find an opening to hurt his opponent.

and i don't think these bookies will change their mind even if the fight is getting closer. they will favour Canelo here. but if there will be an upset (not likely to happen imo), those who will bet on caleb will celebrate big time. but do you think caleb has the chance on canelo here? let's say, he will prepare and focus on his training, more than 2 months of prep. maybe he will really a very good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

[mirakal]

The last time I checked he was at +550. Anyway I will be going for him. Canelo is not looking like he is invincible. Already we had an upset a few days ago (Yordenis Ugás vs Manny Paquiao) and I guess the time is right for another one.

It's risky but it's a big jackpot if Caleb Plant upsets Canelo and you bet on Caleb Plant, but I beg to disagree on the comparison when it comes to upset, upsets can happen but it is not something people expected, and no one expects an upset it just comes when all least expects it to happen, could be a lucky punch or the other boxer is injured or come unprepared.

^ That is possible for Caleb even it seems he is probably an underdog here and the odds were in favor of Alvarez, that is right, we can compare this fight to the fight of Manny Pacquaio and not all underdog has no chance to win. This is a very interesting fight and the perfect match, they are almost the same stat that could be anytime Caleb will possibly be upset Alvarez in the middle of the 12 rounds.
The odds are here, https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/saul-alvarez-v-caleb-plant/winner, there is a chance that Caleb will probably become in a favor of the odds.

Caleb at +600, that's a pretty decent odd and I understand why Canelo is heavily favored because he beat all his opponents this year without any struggle. Put him an opponent of any size and he will dismantle it, he becomes a technical fighter, he works using his mind and you can see why he is very smart in the ring, not too aggressive to KO an opponent but always find an opening to hurt his opponent.

and i don't think these bookies will change their mind even if the fight is getting closer. they will favour Canelo here. but if there will be an upset (not likely to happen imo), those who will bet on caleb will celebrate big time. but do you think caleb has the chance on canelo here? let's say, he will prepare and focus on his training, more than 2 months of prep. maybe he will really a very good toe-to-toe fight inside the ring.

They'll not gonna adjust the odds unless there's major news happen that would affect either fighter. For now, we stick with the betting odds but unfortunately I can't find it in our crypto bookies here, so I have no choice but to wait until it becomes available.

[smyslov]

Caleb at +600, that's a pretty decent odd and I understand why Canelo is heavily favored because he beat all his opponents this year without any struggle. Put him an opponent of any size and he will dismantle it, he becomes a technical fighter, he works using his mind and you can see why he is very smart in the ring, not too aggressive to KO an opponent but always find an opening to hurt his opponent.

We can easily pick Canelo as the heavy favorite because of the names of boxers he's beaten compared to Caleb Plant but there's still a possibility of an upset, on Canelo's last fight Saunders was winning rounds until he got caught a punch that broke his eye socket, Alvarez persistency pays off because he knew Saunders is ahead on points, it could happen again in this fight.

[Yamifoud]

Caleb at +600, that's a pretty decent odd and I understand why Canelo is heavily favored because he beat all his opponents this year without any struggle. Put him an opponent of any size and he will dismantle it, he becomes a technical fighter, he works using his mind and you can see why he is very smart in the ring, not too aggressive to KO an opponent but always find an opening to hurt his opponent.

We can easily pick Canelo as the heavy favorite because of the names of boxers he's beaten compared to Caleb Plant but there's still a possibility of an upset, on Canelo's last fight Saunders was winning rounds until he got caught a punch that broke his eye socket, Alvarez persistency pays off because he knew Saunders is ahead on points, it could happen again in this fight.

Canelo is a known boxer that is not to wonder why the majority will choose him and aside from that, he was actually making such a name because he deserves that and he can really fight big names as well. With this Caleb, for me, he was a challenger, not really have a name in boxing but for sure he can make a good fight against Canelo. This all might be speculation who possibly wins if ever it is gonna happens but Canelo is really have that guts.

[bisdak40]

Caleb Plant will gain a lot if he wins this fight from being an unknown he will become a household name, I don't know who this Caleb Plant and what's his fighting style until his name pops up as the next in line for Canelo, there will be a lot of talks heading to the fight to excite the boxing community, Caleb Plant's title is the only one missing in Canelo supremacy's in the middleweight.

Caleb Plant is unknown to common boxing fans and an upset on this fight could increase his stock significantly but I doubt it would happen as we all knew how Canelo deals with all of his opponents, he never underestimates them and he makes sure that he would emerge the winner after the fight.

This could be Canelo's last fight in this division as they are planning to conquer the LH weight category if ever they will unify all the belts in his current division.

[goinmerry]

Caleb Plant will gain a lot if he wins this fight from being an unknown he will become a household name,

If you are talking about the purse money, Caleb Plant won't gain much if he wins. The purse was set fixed on which Plant will earn $10M while on the other hand, Canelo will take home $40 as far as the terms are concerned.

If you are talking about reputation and fame, Caleb Plant will surely gain a higher rank and more money offer in the future if he will able to pass the heavy favorites Canelo.

[Jawhead999]

I don't know it's just me or not, I see Caleb Plant is similar like Canelo was young around 5-6 years old before. He has a good potential become one of best boxer on few years more, because he have good head movement like Canelo and fast too. Though I don't like his guard style (philly-shell) and he's often fight with long distance which is sign he can't take a lot of damage. While Canelo using peek a boo style which is he can play either aggressive and defensive, depends on the situation.

[Sithara007]

Caleb Plant will gain a lot if he wins this fight from being an unknown he will become a household name,

If you are talking about the purse money, Caleb Plant won't gain much if he wins. The purse was set fixed on which Plant will earn $10M while on the other hand, Canelo will take home $40 as far as the terms are concerned.

If you are talking about reputation and fame, Caleb Plant will surely gain a higher rank and more money offer in the future if he will able to pass the heavy favorites Canelo.

Caleb doesn't care much about money. Three years back, he claimed that he would surrender the entire purse, if he gets an opportunity to fight for the IBF championship. And the $10 million we are talking about is the guaranteed purse. He will receive $10 million (and a share from the revenues if they cross a certain threshold) even if he losses the match. It is slightly lower than what Sergey Kovalev and Daniel Jacobs got paid ($12 million each), but Caleb has said that he's happy with the revenue sharing agreement. Obviously if he wins, then he will receive a significantly higher amount.

[Kemarit]

Caleb Plant will gain a lot if he wins this fight from being an unknown he will become a household name,

If you are talking about the purse money, Caleb Plant won't gain much if he wins. The purse was set fixed on which Plant will earn $10M while on the other hand, Canelo will take home $40 as far as the terms are concerned.

If you are talking about reputation and fame, Caleb Plant will surely gain a higher rank and more money offer in the future if he will able to pass the heavy favorites Canelo.

Caleb doesn't care much about money. Three years back, he claimed that he would surrender the entire purse, if he gets an opportunity to fight for the IBF championship. And the $10 million we are talking about is the guaranteed purse. He will receive $10 million (and a share from the revenues if they cross a certain threshold) even if he losses the match. It is slightly lower than what Sergey Kovalev and Daniel Jacobs got paid ($12 million each), but Caleb has said that he's happy with the revenue sharing agreement. Obviously if he wins, then he will receive a significantly higher amount.

Still good money for Caleb and this good be his biggest paycheck, $10 million + ppv, most likely in the tune of $11 million++ regardless. Kovalev and Jacobs has made their names though that's why a slight higher purse.

Yeah, if he somehow upset Canelo, then maybe they will set up a rematch and he can make double his money, risk worth taking at this point of his career.

[freedomgo]

Caleb Plant will gain a lot if he wins this fight from being an unknown he will become a household name,

If you are talking about the purse money, Caleb Plant won't gain much if he wins. The purse was set fixed on which Plant will earn $10M while on the other hand, Canelo will take home $40 as far as the terms are concerned.

If you are talking about reputation and fame, Caleb Plant will surely gain a higher rank and more money offer in the future if he will able to pass the heavy favorites Canelo.

Caleb doesn't care much about money. Three years back, he claimed that he would surrender the entire purse, if he gets an opportunity to fight for the IBF championship. And the $10 million we are talking about is the guaranteed purse. He will receive $10 million (and a share from the revenues if they cross a certain threshold) even if he losses the match. It is slightly lower than what Sergey Kovalev and Daniel Jacobs got paid ($12 million each), but Caleb has said that he's happy with the revenue sharing agreement. Obviously if he wins, then he will receive a significantly higher amount.

Still good money for Caleb and this good be his biggest paycheck, $10 million + ppv, most likely in the tune of $11 million++ regardless. Kovalev and Jacobs has made their names though that's why a slight higher purse.

Yeah, if he somehow upset Canelo, then maybe they will set up a rematch and he can make double his money, risk worth taking at this point of his career.

Fighters who think they can be at the top would care much for the opportunity than the money involved, IMO, $10 million is good enough but his focus should be on winning the fight, if he beats Canelo, then maybe if there's a rematch, he can dictate the tempo, so most probably his purse will increase.

I like this kind of fighter that fight the best and focus on the future rather than the current opportunity to make more money.