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August 30, 2021, 10:59:55 PM
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Plant is going to get his god damn ass beat.

He's always talking smack on YouTube about how he's got a similar resume to Canelo, and that Canelo has never fought anybody like him lol.

Meanwhile, Canelo is out there destroying light heavyweights and embarrassing the UK's great hope against him (Saunders).

Can't wait to see Plant faceplant the canvas.
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August 31, 2021, 03:15:32 AM
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Plant is going to get his god damn ass beat.

He's always talking smack on YouTube about how he's got a similar resume to Canelo, and that Canelo has never fought anybody like him lol.

Meanwhile, Canelo is out there destroying light heavyweights and embarrassing the UK's great hope against him (Saunders).

Can't wait to see Plant faceplant the canvas.

I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

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September 01, 2021, 04:47:20 PM
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In the words of the legendary Mike Tyson ‘Everybody has a plan until they are punched in the mouth’ this is why predicting the outcome of a fight is always difficult as a single punch can be more than enough to change the whole fight, and what better example than the Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz connected Joshua with a punch behind his ear and since that moment Joshua was unable to recover and this created one of the biggest upsets during this decade.

This only applies to weak fighters or fighters who underestimate their opponent, Canelo is not a weak fighter or one who underestimates his opponents, he only comes prepared and with plans to execute, and he executed those plans perfectly, in boxing planning and preparation is very important, Canelo is the kind of fighter with a lot of plans in his arsenal and he employs it at the right time and at the right opponent.
I disagree, this applies to every single fight and I gave a direct example of this happening in what created one of the biggest upsets in the whole history of boxing, if that is not enough to convince you that something like this can happen in every single fight then I do not know what it is going to take for you to accept it, you may have a plan but suddenly you find yourself in a situation that you were not expecting and the plan has to be changed completely, it happens and it is one of the reasons why boxing is so exciting.

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September 01, 2021, 08:56:21 PM
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Plant is going to get his god damn ass beat.

He's always talking smack on YouTube about how he's got a similar resume to Canelo, and that Canelo has never fought anybody like him lol.

Meanwhile, Canelo is out there destroying light heavyweights and embarrassing the UK's great hope against him (Saunders).

Can't wait to see Plant faceplant the canvas.

I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I have the same expectation, but actually at the start, Joe Saunders was doing well, until he got hit with clean shots and that made him slowed down. I don't have any information on the update of the eye injury he suffered in his fight, I hope he is okay now and would be able to fight again soon.

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September 01, 2021, 09:10:13 PM
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Plant is going to get his god damn ass beat.

He's always talking smack on YouTube about how he's got a similar resume to Canelo, and that Canelo has never fought anybody like him lol.

Meanwhile, Canelo is out there destroying light heavyweights and embarrassing the UK's great hope against him (Saunders).

Can't wait to see Plant faceplant the canvas.

I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I have the same expectation, but actually at the start, Joe Saunders was doing well, until he got hit with clean shots and that made him slowed down. I don't have any information on the update of the eye injury he suffered in his fight, I hope he is okay now and would be able to fight again soon.

Billy Joe Saunders' first loss but was a devastating one, we saw the power of Canelo in that fight, he was not too aggressive in getting his opponent but he is using his brain to ensure that he will win the fight and slowly dismantle the opponent. I can't remember anymore how many undefeated fighters he beaten during the pandemic.
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September 01, 2021, 09:40:59 PM
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Billy Joe Saunders' first loss but was a devastating one, we saw the power of Canelo in that fight, he was not too aggressive in getting his opponent but he is using his brain to ensure that he will win the fight and slowly dismantle the opponent. I can't remember anymore how many undefeated fighters he beaten during the pandemic.

That's the right term. Canelo is using his brain in each fight that he has. Observing and not rushing things out, he just waiting for the right timing and not to allow his opponent to reorganize once he throw solid punches.

We've seen him from all those previous fights where he won and continue to dominate his division.

Plant needs to outsmart Canelo if he wanted to win this fight, he can use the same tactics observing and trying to absorb those heavy
punches that Canelo may throw to him and find the better angles where to hit back and try to make killer punch to win.

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September 02, 2021, 01:11:20 AM
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Another fight that wont give Canelo anything except money and a chance to get injured by an opponent from higher weight division.
If Canelo is up to money that much, he should challenge one of Paul brothers. That will be an easy fight and easy money.

How many more year Canelo is planning to be in business? I think it is time for him to retire (not because of age, but because there are no more strong opponents left) or move to other division.

I don't think he should retire this early. He is a strong and a reputable boxer. He can still fight against more opponents that are on the same level of him in terms of fighting in a match. If you'll watch closely during his matches, he always throws powerful punches and is very strategic. He knows when to attack and how to aim directly at the target. This makes him a very good opponent because surely, everytime you will watch his game, you will be entertained by his charisma inside the boxing ring.

He can still make more money if he will continue his boxing career. Besides, I think he is enjoying his profession and not just after money alone.

He can still make more money, so why bother to retire as early as now, somehow new challenger will come up and fans will demand for him to continue showing his greatness.

The more entertaining fight the more fans that will continue to support him, He dominated this level and when another challenger calls for him he needed to defend his title and for sure that where he will get more money, the promoters will assure him to bank out huge amount as assurance whatever happened after the fight.

Boxers already retire when they are wash up, Alvarez is just reaching his peak that's why nobody can beat him at this point. Maybe when he is on his 40's, maybe his ass are going to get serve, but currently no, not even the brandish Caleb Plant has a chance against him.

Yeah, money is good for him and everyone that surrounds him, so they will continue to fight as long as Canelo can still pull the trigger.

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September 02, 2021, 03:20:21 AM
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That's the right term. Canelo is using his brain in each fight that he has. Observing and not rushing things out, he just waiting for the right timing and not to allow his opponent to reorganize once he throw solid punches.

We've seen him from all those previous fights where he won and continue to dominate his division.

Plant needs to outsmart Canelo if he wanted to win this fight, he can use the same tactics observing and trying to absorb those heavy
punches that Canelo may throw to him and find the better angles where to hit back and try to make killer punch to win.

The last time Canelo lost was 8 years ago, against Floyd Mayweather Jr. (fight for WBA light middleweight title). You can check the highlights of the fight here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hws-4eDDchw

Floyd wasn't overly aggressive in the beginning. He used his maneuverability and reflexes to frustrate Canelo. But almost a decade has passed since this fight and Canelo has improved a lot. So I am not sure whether Plat will be successful if he tries with the same approach.

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If I predict the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb, it will be postponed to next year or cancelled, the management of both camps has nothing in common in the negotiation agreement last august, This statement was broadcast live on private TV which stated that Canelo did not agree with their scheduled match schedule for September 18 this year, Canelo asked for a guarantee against him of £ 28 million, No one has agreed on a budget of that size, if Canelo's request is not fulfilled, my prediction is that the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb will change course, two possibilities are canceled or continued, there is still no meeting point between the two of them when they do determine the match schedule.

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That's the right term. Canelo is using his brain in each fight that he has. Observing and not rushing things out, he just waiting for the right timing and not to allow his opponent to reorganize once he throw solid punches.

We've seen him from all those previous fights where he won and continue to dominate his division.

Plant needs to outsmart Canelo if he wanted to win this fight, he can use the same tactics observing and trying to absorb those heavy
punches that Canelo may throw to him and find the better angles where to hit back and try to make killer punch to win.

The last time Canelo lost was 8 years ago, against Floyd Mayweather Jr. (fight for WBA light middleweight title). You can check the highlights of the fight here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hws-4eDDchw

Floyd wasn't overly aggressive in the beginning. He used his maneuverability and reflexes to frustrate Canelo. But almost a decade has passed since this fight and Canelo has improved a lot. So I am not sure whether Plat will be successful if he tries with the same approach.

Watching the highlights, I'm impressed with Mayweather's performance here as he was not running, he fought Canelo toe to toe and the fans seem to be happy watching the fight. Canelo has really improved, but we did not also see a new Mayweather with a good defensive style, so the competition is not too high though.

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I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I think the same and Team Caleb could have the same speculation with us as their ward is doing a lot of psych war and talking non-sense, maybe he thinks that he could irk Canelo and could not focus on the fight lol.

In this Canelo's current division, he could sweep this one and I'm thinking that he would be having a hard time campaigning in the LH division.


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But almost a decade has passed since this fight and Canelo has improved a lot. So I am not sure whether Plat will be successful if he tries with the same approach.

Over that passed years and more fight that he fought, he's skills, and he's dominance really showing inside the ring. It's tough for Plant, that's for sure, but there's nothing left for him aside from trying to find lapses while they are inside the ring.

There's always something that gives a fighter open opportunities during the fight, that timing is very important when facing a monster.

But if he can't find that and lets Canelo to control the entire fight, we will see another sure win for Canelo as he really fights well
And he's skills are very dominant. Still hoping that plant will try everything to give fans the fight that they've paying for.. Wink

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I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I think the same and Team Caleb could have the same speculation with us as their ward is doing a lot of psych war and talking non-sense, maybe he thinks that he could irk Canelo and could not focus on the fight lol.

In this Canelo's current division, he could sweep this one and I'm thinking that he would be having a hard time campaigning in the LH division.



Canelo has been fighting like a warrior, if possible he will fight every month just to beat any opponent that would like to challenge him. It's his 3rd fight and he could still have a 4th fight by December if he wins this fight easily. I have no doubt about this guy, he really is a champion, however, since this is sport and this guy is still a human, upset could still possiby happen.

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I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I think the same and Team Caleb could have the same speculation with us as their ward is doing a lot of psych war and talking non-sense, maybe he thinks that he could irk Canelo and could not focus on the fight lol.

In this Canelo's current division, he could sweep this one and I'm thinking that he would be having a hard time campaigning in the LH division.

That's what they really wanted to accomplished here, sweep the division, and Caleb is the only man standing between him and cleaning the division. There are notable boxers as well in 168 lbs, just climbing up the ladder but I don't think they have the tools for now to beat this version of Canelo.

LH will be a new territory for him, he tested it once with an old Kovalev, but it seems they didn't like what they are seeing. Bivol and Beterviev will be waiting for Canelo if he decided to move up to 175 lbs.

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September 02, 2021, 11:00:07 PM
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If I predict the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb, it will be postponed to next year or cancelled, the management of both camps has nothing in common in the negotiation agreement last august, This statement was broadcast live on private TV which stated that Canelo did not agree with their scheduled match schedule for September 18 this year, Canelo asked for a guarantee against him of £ 28 million, No one has agreed on a budget of that size, if Canelo's request is not fulfilled, my prediction is that the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb will change course, two possibilities are canceled or continued, there is still no meeting point between the two of them when they do determine the match schedule.
This could be more possible since this is not final yet though we still have time until November but hopefully they'll push this one since its already created a hype and for me, it will happen this year. Canelo is on a good advantage here over Caleb, but still if Caleb will work hard enough he can still have a chance since this is boxing and those who came prepared will always win, I can't wait to place my bet between these two I'm still analyzing both boxer.
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If I predict the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb, it will be postponed to next year or cancelled, the management of both camps has nothing in common in the negotiation agreement last august, This statement was broadcast live on private TV which stated that Canelo did not agree with their scheduled match schedule for September 18 this year, Canelo asked for a guarantee against him of £ 28 million, No one has agreed on a budget of that size, if Canelo's request is not fulfilled, my prediction is that the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb will change course, two possibilities are canceled or continued, there is still no meeting point between the two of them when they do determine the match schedule.
This could be more possible since this is not final yet though we still have time until November but hopefully they'll push this one since its already created a hype and for me, it will happen this year. Canelo is on a good advantage here over Caleb, but still if Caleb will work hard enough he can still have a chance since this is boxing and those who came prepared will always win, I can't wait to place my bet between these two I'm still analyzing both boxer.
There's nothing we can say about who has more advantage because it's clearly Canelo is the one who has the edge and based on the betting odds, it obviously tells us the real status of the fight outcome. Working hard is not a special thing as both fighters know they are in a battle, so it's a must to work hard to last in the right and to be physically fit in the fight night.

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September 03, 2021, 10:55:57 AM
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If I predict the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb, it will be postponed to next year or cancelled, the management of both camps has nothing in common in the negotiation agreement last august, This statement was broadcast live on private TV which stated that Canelo did not agree with their scheduled match schedule for September 18 this year, Canelo asked for a guarantee against him of £ 28 million, No one has agreed on a budget of that size, if Canelo's request is not fulfilled, my prediction is that the boxing between Canelo vs Caleb will change course, two possibilities are canceled or continued, there is still no meeting point between the two of them when they do determine the match schedule.
This could be more possible since this is not final yet though we still have time until November but hopefully they'll push this one since its already created a hype and for me, it will happen this year. Canelo is on a good advantage here over Caleb, but still if Caleb will work hard enough he can still have a chance since this is boxing and those who came prepared will always win, I can't wait to place my bet between these two I'm still analyzing both boxer.
There's nothing we can say about who has more advantage because it's clearly Canelo is the one who has the edge and based on the betting odds, it obviously tells us the real status of the fight outcome. Working hard is not a special thing as both fighters know they are in a battle, so it's a must to work hard to last in the right and to be physically fit in the fight night.

Yeah, all advantage point to Canelo, so it's not hard to analyze this fight and it's easy to bet on Canelo ML, but the odds are not that very attractive. That's why the best choice is to look at which round will Canelo win, or maybe a UD win with big money bets on him.

Caleb Plant can prepare, but it's hard to beat a fighter with Canelo's caliber right now. He is also improving every fight.

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September 03, 2021, 10:58:49 AM
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I expected Billy Joe Saunders to perform better, as he had an unbeaten record. But he couldn't even last the full 12 rounds. And that was just three months ago. Canelo is still fresh from that victory. The last time when someone lasted for full 12 rounds against Canelo was in 2020, when Callum Smith (also from the United Kingdom) lost by UD. And before that it was Daniel Jacobs in 2019. Much was talked about Sergey Kovalev, but he got knocked out. Given this record, I don't have much hope for Caleb Plant.

I think the same and Team Caleb could have the same speculation with us as their ward is doing a lot of psych war and talking non-sense, maybe he thinks that he could irk Canelo and could not focus on the fight lol.

In this Canelo's current division, he could sweep this one and I'm thinking that he would be having a hard time campaigning in the LH division.

That's what they really wanted to accomplished here, sweep the division, and Caleb is the only man standing between him and cleaning the division. There are notable boxers as well in 168 lbs, just climbing up the ladder but I don't think they have the tools for now to beat this version of Canelo.

LH will be a new territory for him, he tested it once with an old Kovalev, but it seems they didn't like what they are seeing. Bivol and Beterviev will be waiting for Canelo if he decided to move up to 175 lbs.

LHW is still a good division for Canelo to conquer and I think he can still make that weight, it's not that hard for him seen he is going up in weight class. And for sure he can still carry his power, we have seen it against Kovalev, a bigger fighter than him and yet he was able to beat him.

Bivol and Beterviev is good champion, legitimate LHW, but I'm thinking that Canelo can beat any of this two easy.
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September 03, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
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There's nothing we can say about who has more advantage because it's clearly Canelo is the one who has the edge and based on the betting odds, it obviously tells us the real status of the fight outcome.
they are both class bettors, both of them, actually this match is not delayed and has been scheduled for 18 september, that's the point.

Since Canelo, asked for a guarantee for himself, so it had to be postponed, of course in this case Caleb also had the same thing, that's why the boxing between Canelo vs. Caleb can continue or break, If they consider Selfish, this can be invalidated.

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September 03, 2021, 02:12:06 PM
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There's a new narrative for Caleb Plant, he somewhat "accuses" Team Canelo and re-open Alvarez being found with a ban substance in his first fight against GGG. Plant alleges that since Oscar Valdez has been found to have Phentermine in his system prior to this fight with Robson Conceicao, Roach Reynoso could have known that Oscar is taking it. Reynoso handles Canelo, so that's why Plant is now hinting that Canelo "could' have taken illegal substance as well.

You can read his rant here, in his official twitter account:

https://twitter.com/SweetHandsPlant

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