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September 22, 2021, 02:33:18 PM
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it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.
Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.
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September 22, 2021, 02:52:32 PM
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it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.
Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

I also thought that way, while maybe Caleb was doubtful about can winning the fight in the ring, but he thought he had at least can won the battle with his rubbish words Grin.
But even so this fight will be able to prove who deserves to be the best boxer and of course a true champion of world super middleweight boxing, to be honest in that fight I will bet on Canelo victory, in addition to the revenge factor for caleb insults, of course Canelo is a boxer who quite dangerous and has managed to hold three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO with a record 56 wins (38 KO), 1 loss and 2 draws.

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September 22, 2021, 09:48:29 PM
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it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

That certain limit is subjective and boxers can't control their mouth in most cases especially if they are in ravage mode. The said argument between Canelo and Caleb Plant is fortunately not that "mic-ed" so the public or viewers, didn't really know the exact statement that triggered Canelo. Anyhow, it's something below the belt as a reason and as far as reports are concerned, it's about family. After the incident and at the press conference, Caleb didn't stop throwing things to Canelo "like he has a backup on his claims" and Canelo got triggered again saying his final statement, "See you on November 6th".

With what had happened during the press conference, I think tickets would be selling like hotcakes.

Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

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September 22, 2021, 10:39:17 PM
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Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

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September 22, 2021, 11:23:13 PM
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Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

We are not sure if it will reach the same level as GGG and Canelo's fight.

Since the fight was organized and officially announce, Caleb Plant is a heavy underdog and the majority is not considering him as in the same league as Canelo. On that face-off during their presscon, Caleb Plant starts the punch but didn't able to dodge Canelo's counterattack. What's more during the actual fight.

But regardless, I'm expecting that Plant will do something to show the world that he can equally fight with Canelo. He should live with his trashtalks.

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September 22, 2021, 11:26:08 PM
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Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

From that press-con, for sure sales will be hyping as these two fighters already give some glimpse on what the possible scenes when they met inside the ring. I was curious though if that for promotional, since the punch is for real. I wonder if that Plant punch landed in the very face of Canelo without any clubs.  Roll Eyes

Oh well, maybe that's already on the script and Canelo expects that so he can react right away and avoid it to land in his face, while those punches that he throws to Plant are not a close fist, so not a hard landing too.  Cheesy Wink


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September 22, 2021, 11:47:05 PM
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Oh well, maybe that's already on the script and Canelo expects that so he can react right away and avoid it to land in his face, while those punches that he throws to Plant are not a close fist, so not a hard landing too.  Cheesy Wink

As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true. Smiley

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.
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September 23, 2021, 01:09:45 AM
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His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.
With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.
I also thought that way, while maybe Caleb was doubtful about can winning the fight in the ring, but he thought he had at least can won the battle with his rubbish words Grin.
But even so this fight will be able to prove who deserves to be the best boxer and of course a true champion of world super middleweight boxing, to be honest in that fight I will bet on Canelo victory, in addition to the revenge factor for caleb insults, of course Canelo is a boxer who quite dangerous and has managed to hold three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO with a record 56 wins (38 KO), 1 loss and 2 draws.

^ Mate just looks at the stats. Canelo He's just going to run over Plant. I wonder why plant did all those trash-talking, if plant actually should have done anything I think he should have practiced more and make plans about how to defeat his opponent in the ring rather than defeating his opponent in the press conference. And after the press conference, I honestly think that the man has no fear for his life, lol Tongue.

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^ Mate just looks at the stats. Canelo He's just going to run over Plant. I wonder why plant did all those trash-talking, if plant actually should have done anything I think he should have practiced more and make plans about how to defeat his opponent in the ring rather than defeating his opponent in the press conference. And after the press conference, I honestly think that the man has no fear for his life, lol Tongue.

It is a well planned strategy employed by some of the boxers to divert the attention of their higher ranked opponent. However in this case, I am not sure whether it will work or not. Because Canelo seems to have ignored the comments made by Caleb. Ideally that is what the stronger opponents should do. But sometimes they lose their focus and get provoked by the statements. And this gives an opportunity for underdogs such as Caleb. I don't support any of this, but Caleb's behavior makes perfect sense for me.

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As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true. Smiley

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.

Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

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As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true. Smiley

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.

Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

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His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

Plant just make the odds favor on him less compare to Canelo because of what happened and for sure this is the only way Plant think how to beat Canelo through trash talked. Being involved in a sport there's no excuse of pushing your opponent during face-off and punching him causing a cut over on the right eye of your opponent just because you only knew that your opponent was took a performance enhancing drug without a proof and opened this topic during your face off. However, let's just wait till the game is on and hopefully by November 6th the game would be push through and see who's the best fighter between them.
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Ok from what I read, Caleb proved that he is not a keyboard warrior and tell everything on Canelo's during their face-off, specially the accusations like he is a cheater, and then calling Canelo MF. So Alvarez was feed up with all of Caleb's antic. And he said that this is extra motivation and he takes it personally. So I'm smelling another knock out win for Canelo, doesn't matter which round, he will go out and really hurt Caleb here.
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Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

It's still six weeks to go, promoters should not let them alone again or do that kind of faceoff again to avoid altercations, this is the most anticipated match of the year, promoters should do everything for a similar incident not to happen again, they can do all the trash talk all they want but they should not let these two fighters do a close face-off again, we are still in the pandemic, they should still encourage social distancing.

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Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

It's still six weeks to go, promoters should not let them alone again or do that kind of faceoff again to avoid altercations, this is the most anticipated match of the year, promoters should do everything for a similar incident not to happen again, they can do all the trash talk all they want but they should not let these two fighters do a close face-off again, we are still in the pandemic, they should still encourage social distancing.
They already saw what this two could do, so probably when they face again a day before the actual fight for the weigh-in, the security guards will be carefully monitoring them so they will not do stupid things that could hamper the day of the fight. I know they like to beat each other, but let that happen in the right under the rules of boxing.
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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.
Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.
Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.
What sports betting sites you are using, I'm searching on the betting odds in crypto betting sites I'm using but I could not see it until now. I love to see the full market too as there's plenty of betting odds I can bet to make that day more entertaining while watching the fight.

A KO handicap, would be good, probably I'll take 1-3 rounds of KO as it surely has big odds, and Canelo is angry and might KO Plant right away.

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.
Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.
What sports betting sites you are using, I'm searching on the betting odds in crypto betting sites I'm using but I could not see it until now. I love to see the full market too as there's plenty of betting odds I can bet to make that day more entertaining while watching the fight.

A KO handicap, would be good, probably I'll take 1-3 rounds of KO as it surely has big odds, and Canelo is angry and might KO Plant right away.

Most of the time, you can see the full market at least about a week away before the fight. And maybe since these 2 boxers are quite popular, we may see it a lil bit early. Because betting on Canelo at full time is not worth if you are just betting small. Seems that people have high expectations on Canelo but we should not underestimate Caleb here.
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They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

Yeah right! If someone got that injured after that press-con for sure, a lot of money will be wasted.

I see your point in the business side of this fight, though maybe that's really emotions that flow between these two fighters.

They wanted to show how aggressive they were meeting inside the ring.

Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.
Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.
Me as well, that huge gap between the odds better to take the handicap unless you will place huge amount for Alvarez or you are willing to take the big risk for Plant.

It's all about the level of risk that you are willing to take. This fight already attracts lots of attention after that press-con. Tongue Roll Eyes

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