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September 26, 2021, 08:43:34 AM
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The drama made it more appealing to the media, it doesn't even matter whether whose fault that was I just wanna bet. Caleb seems confident but I can't see him winning when Canelo is still a very young man as he is. You can tell how fast the response to hit back after a slap to his face.
Indeed, regardless of the reason of that incident the fact is it gave an extra spice of their upcoming fight. Its not started yet but Canelo seems ahead already to Caleb leaving him with a visible cut. But I think it can be prevented if only there's someone close who can calm their heated argument.

Oh well this is a must watch fight that we cant be missed.
I hope Caleb was not worried about what happened to him as he could get more cuts during the actual fight. There's a reason why he is an underdog because he is not really good in boxing although is undefeated, he is good with trash-talking only.

Disrespect a champion and you will experience revenge from him in the actual fight, he should fear what would happen to him as the last time Canelo fought, his opponent got surgery because it was badly beaten.

Expect that he is worried because he got a cut in that day, and he felt how strong Canelo is that he had a cut even it's not the actual fight yet.

Meanwhile, Callum Smith the fighter that Canelo beat in his past fight just had a big win by brutal KO against Lenin Castillo.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/callum-smith-scores-truly-frightening-knockout-in-win-over-lenin-castillo-boxing-results/188333



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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

Castillon is fine now by the way https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/9/25/22693564/update-lenin-castillo-hospital-fine-after-frightening-knockout-callum-smith-dazn-boxing-news-2021

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September 26, 2021, 12:11:10 PM
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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

Castillon is fine now by the way https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/9/25/22693564/update-lenin-castillo-hospital-fine-after-frightening-knockout-callum-smith-dazn-boxing-news-2021

The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.
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September 26, 2021, 02:30:56 PM
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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

Castillon is fine now by the way https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/9/25/22693564/update-lenin-castillo-hospital-fine-after-frightening-knockout-callum-smith-dazn-boxing-news-2021

The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.

With what happened during the press-con that aggressiveness shown from how Canelo react will bring impact when this two already inside the ring.

Caleb needs to carefully observe how Canelo bring him the fight, once Alvarez start to attack and Caleb don't have
any counter we might expect a KO knowing the skillsets of Canelo he's very good beating up his opponent with ugly outcome.

Just like what both of you observe, Canelo is too superior and he can add that superiority against Plant.
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September 26, 2021, 09:03:43 PM
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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

Castillon is fine now by the way https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/9/25/22693564/update-lenin-castillo-hospital-fine-after-frightening-knockout-callum-smith-dazn-boxing-news-2021

The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.

With what happened during the press-con that aggressiveness shown from how Canelo react will bring impact when this two already inside the ring.

Caleb needs to carefully observe how Canelo bring him the fight, once Alvarez start to attack and Caleb don't have
any counter we might expect a KO knowing the skillsets of Canelo he's very good beating up his opponent with ugly outcome.

Just like what both of you observe, Canelo is too superior and he can add that superiority against Plant.

Plant has to double the effort in training but not to overtrain so he will still be 100% during the fight which he obviously needs it. Canelo is too superior, Caleb needs more training than his trash-talking to beat Canelo, and it's not impossible though the chance is very slim as long as he is focused on his goal.

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September 26, 2021, 09:18:35 PM
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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

Castillon is fine now by the way https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/9/25/22693564/update-lenin-castillo-hospital-fine-after-frightening-knockout-callum-smith-dazn-boxing-news-2021

The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.

With what happened during the press-con that aggressiveness shown from how Canelo react will bring impact when this two already inside the ring.

Caleb needs to carefully observe how Canelo bring him the fight, once Alvarez start to attack and Caleb don't have
any counter we might expect a KO knowing the skillsets of Canelo he's very good beating up his opponent with ugly outcome.

Just like what both of you observe, Canelo is too superior and he can add that superiority against Plant.

Plant has to double the effort in training but not to overtrain so he will still be 100% during the fight which he obviously needs it. Canelo is too superior, Caleb needs more training than his trash-talking to beat Canelo, and it's not impossible though the chance is very slim as long as he is focused on his goal.

Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.
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September 27, 2021, 12:35:47 AM
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Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

It might happen, Plant is a very hungry fighter he really pushes for this fight, remember Plant is undefeated and capable of pulling out with a big upset, he is already going inside the mind of Canelo, if ever Plant defeat Canelo it's a bigger upset than the Usyk - Joshua fight because Canelo is touted as the best pound for pound boxer of this generation and Canelo call Caleb, not on his level, many will be disappointed because many are betting on Canelo's win.

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September 27, 2021, 04:19:41 AM
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Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

LOL.. comparing Canelo Álvarez with Anthony Joshua? The former is a legend, while the latter is a media product who is overhyped beyond all limits. Usyk could win over AJ because the latter's skill sets are not extraordinary. That is not the case with Canelo. He is far ahead of anyone else in his weight class. That gap didn't existed between AJ and Usyk. AJ was the clear favorite, but no one thought that he was invincible. In case of Canelo, I would say that he's near invincible. Caleb may be having +500 or +600 odds with him, but I would say that even these odds are over-predicting his chances. 
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September 27, 2021, 05:41:28 AM
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Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

It might happen, Plant is a very hungry fighter he really pushes for this fight, remember Plant is undefeated and capable of pulling out with a big upset, he is already going inside the mind of Canelo, if ever Plant defeat Canelo it's a bigger upset than the Usyk - Joshua fight because Canelo is touted as the best pound for pound boxer of this generation and Canelo call Caleb, not on his level, many will be disappointed because many are betting on Canelo's win.

There's always upset in any sports, they will fight fist to fist and if Plant surprise Alvarez with strategy that will work against this pound per pound champ it's going to be the biggest upset, We or most of us here believe that Alvarez is far superior to Plant, though just like what you mentioned Plant also an undefeated fighter but there are big differences between this two.

Canelo is more on skills and power which really unpredictable when he's inside the ring, he will quietly attacks and take every counter from his opponent, if he cornered you it surely be going to his way either throwing more heavy punches or knock you down forcedly.

Everything, for now, is our own opinion and speculation. It will be decided after the fight.

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September 27, 2021, 06:01:09 AM
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There's always upset in any sports, they will fight fist to fist and if Plant surprise Alvarez with strategy that will work against this pound per pound champ it's going to be the biggest upset, We or most of us here believe that Alvarez is far superior to Plant, though just like what you mentioned Plant also an undefeated fighter but there are big differences between this two.

Canelo is more on skills and power which really unpredictable when he's inside the ring, he will quietly attacks and take every counter from his opponent, if he cornered you it surely be going to his way either throwing more heavy punches or knock you down forcedly.

Everything, for now, is our own opinion and speculation. It will be decided after the fight.

There are always upsets occurring in professional boxing because all it takes is a single mistake or a brief instance of lapse in concentration. Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson in 1990, despite odds of +4500. But do you really believe that Canelo would do something like that? For a win by Caleb Plant, there needs to be a mistake from the part of Canelo. There is no other way in which he can win. And Canelo is very careful while boxing. For the entire 36 minute duration (3 mins x 12 rounds) he stays focussed. 
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September 27, 2021, 06:14:41 AM
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There's always upset in any sports, they will fight fist to fist and if Plant surprise Alvarez with strategy that will work against this pound per pound champ it's going to be the biggest upset, We or most of us here believe that Alvarez is far superior to Plant, though just like what you mentioned Plant also an undefeated fighter but there are big differences between this two.

Canelo is more on skills and power which really unpredictable when he's inside the ring, he will quietly attacks and take every counter from his opponent, if he cornered you it surely be going to his way either throwing more heavy punches or knock you down forcedly.

Everything, for now, is our own opinion and speculation. It will be decided after the fight.

There are always upsets occurring in professional boxing because all it takes is a single mistake or a brief instance of lapse in concentration. Buster Douglas knocked out Mike Tyson in 1990, despite odds of +4500. But do you really believe that Canelo would do something like that? For a win by Caleb Plant, there needs to be a mistake from the part of Canelo. There is no other way in which he can win. And Canelo is very careful while boxing. For the entire 36 minute duration (3 mins x 12 rounds) he stays focussed. 

I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.

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September 27, 2021, 06:37:47 AM
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Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

LOL.. comparing Canelo Álvarez with Anthony Joshua? The former is a legend, while the latter is a media product who is overhyped beyond all limits. Usyk could win over AJ because the latter's skill sets are not extraordinary. That is not the case with Canelo. He is far ahead of anyone else in his weight class. That gap didn't existed between AJ and Usyk. AJ was the clear favorite, but no one thought that he was invincible. In case of Canelo, I would say that he's near invincible. Caleb may be having +500 or +600 odds with him, but I would say that even these odds are over-predicting his chances. 

Joshua was been beaten already by Ruiz Jr, so I agree that there could be no comparison against Canelo. Yes, Canelo too has 1 lost against one of the best, but that was before he really turn into a great and legendary boxing.

Again, smart money would go on Canelo here, ML is not that attractive, but maybe a decision win or even a knockout is a good bet.
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September 27, 2021, 06:52:56 AM
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Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

LOL.. comparing Canelo Álvarez with Anthony Joshua? The former is a legend, while the latter is a media product who is overhyped beyond all limits. Usyk could win over AJ because the latter's skill sets are not extraordinary. That is not the case with Canelo. He is far ahead of anyone else in his weight class. That gap didn't existed between AJ and Usyk. AJ was the clear favorite, but no one thought that he was invincible. In case of Canelo, I would say that he's near invincible. Caleb may be having +500 or +600 odds with him, but I would say that even these odds are over-predicting his chances. 

Joshua was been beaten already by Ruiz Jr, so I agree that there could be no comparison against Canelo. Yes, Canelo too has 1 lost against one of the best, but that was before he really turn into a great and legendary boxing.

Again, smart money would go on Canelo here, ML is not that attractive, but maybe a decision win or even a knockout is a good bet.

Probably a win by KO, yeah, that's probably what's gonna happen in this fight as Canelo would not let those disrespectful words of Caleb Plant pass, he will make a way to teach Plant a lesson, that's why the win by KO is very possible, and I think the odds are good for that kind of bet.

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September 27, 2021, 08:11:26 AM
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I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.
Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

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September 27, 2021, 11:55:27 AM
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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

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The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.

Most probably he will be beaten up, but as a boxer, he knows the risk of what he is doing and he is surely still confident that he can upset Canelo because he has not tasted a loss yet. If he is really a great boxer, then he should not be afraid of Canelo, this is a competition, if you want to be the best, you need to beat your toughest opponent, and that is no other than Canelo Alvarez.

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September 27, 2021, 12:04:07 PM
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I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.
Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

Yeah, watch some video of Canelo being interviewed both in Spanish and in English, and he is saying the same, Caleb is not on his level and this is a very high level fight and no matter what Caleb is saying in the social media, Canelo will let Caleb pay for that inside the ring. And in those video's, Canelo is fast with those body shots and left hook and this will be his main weapon against Caleb, and for sure he can't take that because Canelo has one of the best hook in the business.

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September 27, 2021, 12:09:01 PM
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I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.
Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

Canelo is okay with the statement of Caleb Plant that he is using illegal drugs, but to disrespect her mother, that's below the belt, and the fact that he said it in his face during the face-off, I think Plant really provoked a fight.

"He Talked About My Mother, He Said 'You Motherf**ker'": Confused Canelo Reveals What Sparked Press Conference Brawl

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Saul Canelo Alvarez has revealed exactly what Caleb Plant said to him which sparked their press conference brawl.

And by the looks of things, Canelo got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Speaking just after their heated clash, Canelo told reporters that Plant took a below-the-belt shot by talking about his mother during their face-off.

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September 28, 2021, 04:42:07 AM
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Canelo is okay with the statement of Caleb Plant that he is using illegal drugs, but to disrespect her mother, that's below the belt, and the fact that he said it in his face during the face-off, I think Plant really provoked a fight.

"He Talked About My Mother, He Said 'You Motherf**ker'": Confused Canelo Reveals What Sparked Press Conference Brawl

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Saul Canelo Alvarez has revealed exactly what Caleb Plant said to him which sparked their press conference brawl.

And by the looks of things, Canelo got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Speaking just after their heated clash, Canelo told reporters that Plant took a below-the-belt shot by talking about his mother during their face-off.

Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.
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September 28, 2021, 12:16:29 PM
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Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.


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Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.



We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

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September 28, 2021, 01:13:26 PM
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Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.

Viewership doesn't need to be increased, Canelo himself is already bankable star even out of boxing, so for me this is not scripted, Plant has been a keyboard warrior and try to be the alpha by verbally spatting with Canelo during their face off. But it's good to see Canelo acting like that, he needs to get out the feeling before the fight. And during the fight itself, it will be very different, all the emotions, what has been said will be boiling as Caleb crosses the line, specially about Canelo's mom. And Canelo predicted that he will KO Plant as he is fired up.

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