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September 28, 2021, 01:23:42 PM
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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

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September 28, 2021, 04:36:01 PM
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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.
I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

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September 28, 2021, 09:14:58 PM
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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.
I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year.  He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.

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September 29, 2021, 02:45:37 AM
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That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

You never know who started the fight. Canelo claims that Caleb used bad words about his mother. But for me, all this sounds scripted. They just want to attract more publicity to the event. Who knows? Maybe the ticket sales are not looking good as a result of the pandemic? Reminds me of all the drama we had before the actual fight between Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor (UFC). If anyone think that it was scripted, then this one is also scripted for sure. The organizers only care about gate collection and PPV buys.

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September 29, 2021, 03:16:08 AM
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Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year.  He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.
That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

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September 29, 2021, 04:14:14 AM
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Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year.  He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.
That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

He definitely will. That's Canelo Alvarez. He's a very talented fighter. This is his fight. Caleb is here to prove something. He better be good. He cannot be just less than a good fighter if he is facing Canelo. In fact he has to step up and be a better boxer when the time comes. I'm afraid Caleb's best wasn't good enough for the monster in Canelo. He has to improve or else the odds will be final and it favors Canelo. He has to forget about the altercation that happened in the promotion. Anger blinds a fighter. Boxing is technical. You cannot just box your way out of anger and win.
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September 29, 2021, 06:49:28 AM
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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.
I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

It's just a scratch on his face, superficial wound, no nothing serious and the fight will continue as per schedule. But I do agree that this is a high profile fight and there should be security around to separate them when they have their face-off. For sure, they don't want this to happen during the weigh in and I reckon that they are not going to be close physical contact when they hit the scale in public.

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September 29, 2021, 10:29:28 AM
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Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year.  He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.
That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

Yeah, no need to be angry or what, just focus on your goal to win the fight against one of the best we have right now in Canelo. Caleb needs to concentrate and developed a perfect plan on how to defeat Canelo otherwise he will be the next victim and going to be knock out. Although Caleb has a good chin, he was never touch in his previous fight with a power of Canelo. Not sure what the odds are for a Canelo knock out, but if it good and attractive, I might go with it.


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September 29, 2021, 02:07:18 PM
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Anger makes every man dangerous you have to prepare yourself and win the battle to win the battle canello is a strong fighter and he manages everything perfectly after fighting just once last year sol canello alvarez is back in the ring for a second fight in the second month, the biggest appeal in boxing to defend the super middleweight title against. Also the first fight of the mexican legend now exceeds any canelo and boxing activity anywhere in the world with high aspirations.
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September 29, 2021, 05:46:27 PM
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That was just my speculation because we all know that boxers want to hype their fight to make more money. Just like what happened with the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight, I guess that one though looks real but it could also be an acting job too. But anyway, just don't mind it, we will see the fight soon, so we will see how Canelo would punish Caleb Plant in the ring.

It was different on Mayweather vs Paul because their fight has no bearing and really needed hype. Mayweather's reputation is not that good too even he is an undefeated boxer so they really need to do something to catch and attract the interest of the audiences and viewers.

It's hard for me to believe even just for speculation that the incident that happened at the Alvarez-Plant press conference is an acting job.

Regardless, I hope Caleb Plant is not just pure of talks. For Canelo, I hope that trash talk won't distract him. It's normal to get in emotion but it can affect a boxer's performance on the ring especially if heated one.
I really think that Caleb is doing everything that he can to try to get Canelo out of his game but this is a dangerous game, I have seen many of the professional fights of Canelo and one thing I have noticed is that even if he was an incredibly punching power he does not want to injure his opponent, if it seems the opponent is about to go down he gives them a chance to go down before receiving more punishment, if Caleb is doing all of this and does not have the skill to back it up, I think Canelo may try not only to beat him but to hurt him.
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That was just my speculation because we all know that boxers want to hype their fight to make more money. Just like what happened with the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight, I guess that one though looks real but it could also be an acting job too. But anyway, just don't mind it, we will see the fight soon, so we will see how Canelo would punish Caleb Plant in the ring.

It was different on Mayweather vs Paul because their fight has no bearing and really needed hype. Mayweather's reputation is not that good too even he is an undefeated boxer so they really need to do something to catch and attract the interest of the audiences and viewers.

It's hard for me to believe even just for speculation that the incident that happened at the Alvarez-Plant press conference is an acting job.

Regardless, I hope Caleb Plant is not just pure of talks. For Canelo, I hope that trash talk won't distract him. It's normal to get in emotion but it can affect a boxer's performance on the ring especially if heated one.
I really think that Caleb is doing everything that he can to try to get Canelo out of his game but this is a dangerous game, I have seen many of the professional fights of Canelo and one thing I have noticed is that even if he was an incredibly punching power he does not want to injure his opponent, if it seems the opponent is about to go down he gives them a chance to go down before receiving more punishment, if Caleb is doing all of this and does not have the skill to back it up, I think Canelo may try not only to beat him but to hurt him.
Caleb has the skills because he is an undefeated fighter, but his skills is way below the skills of Canelo that's why he is the underdog of this fight. Actually what Caleb needs to do here is stop trash talking and focus to surprise the fans as the fans are not really expecting that he has a chance to win here.

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OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

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OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

The cause of it is because we already have seen the preview of the fight which was during their face-off, we saw already whos going to win. Caleb may be undefeated but base on experience alone he has just very little chance so it would take more than just trash talk to derail the fate of this fight. His odds may even go low by the fight date comes.

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Weird though to see Canelo's losing his cool on a press con, so I'm not sure if this was stage or not, but as you can see when he throw that left hook, it was not on a close fist but rather like a chop, a karate chop. But it took a damage on Caleb's face already, thus it will create an even greater hype for this upcoming fight. But the odds are not going to change, Canelo will still be the favourite to win this fight.

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

I think you hit the point, nobody likes to mess with the mother, and besides that I think that anyone would react that way, in fact when he clarified it on Twitter for me that attitude was totally understandable. I think it's good that he has taken that small brand, so he learns to respect and especially women.
And starting from what is coming is a great fight, all this adds more emotion, there is what we call in my land as "Pique" and that is a very good additional ingredient, I imagine that after the fight he must apologize for having gotten involved. with her mother.


Caleb says it was just a scratch but the pictures don't really look like a scratch. It's the cause of the sunglass he wore that time seems to have crammed down that resulted in that mark, you can't stage that kind of bruise.

They don't even have to insult each other its bound to happen. Every time two dominant males in one stage will cause a commotion, that is why there has to be someone in between when there is faceoff, it happens all the time in MMA. During that time, they were just them, who organized that faceoff?



I think it's because of the World Boxing Association, World Boxing Organization and World Boxing Council Unification fight for world super middleweight titles, also because Caleb depends on the International Boxing Federation I imagine they agreed. with the World Boxing Organization to set up the match. Also seeing the fame of the Mexican is very great because his incentive will be 40 million dollars while the American will take 10 million dollars, I think that only that is enough for either of the two fighters win or lose.

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October 01, 2021, 08:53:54 PM
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OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.


Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

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October 01, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
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OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.


Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

Why not go for a KO win for Plant, I'm sure the odds will be higher since people do not believe that Plant has a decent chance to upset Canelo here. But of course, for fun you can do that, probably betting on per round KO would be more interesting as the odds gets higher. The full market of odds will be available soon, so we will find out how attractive it is.


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October 01, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
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Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

Even the fans buy that drama, it has nothing to do with the change of odds. Bookies are not taking that as a basis if they want to change the odds. Mostly, odds will change if there's an event that will directly affect the performance of the boxer like having some issues, injury, training progress, etc.

If anyone wants to bet on Canelo but seems not worth it because of the odds, even you wait for several months, that won't change or just a bit. If betting for Caleb Plant don't expect much that bookies will increase the odds up to around x10 just because he seems underpowered by Canelo on that recent press conference issue. The current odds for Plant to win the fight is already good odds.

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October 02, 2021, 04:05:07 AM
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That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

The fight that we are going to see between Canelo vs. Plant will probably going to be the real fight between the two fighters leaving the aspect of sportsmanship behind because of the conflict that have risen during their face off on press conference. The drama seem to be the highlight of the upcoming fight that gives a more exciting fight to watch for to every bettors and boxing fans. But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.
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October 02, 2021, 06:34:08 AM
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That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier.  Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

The fight that we are going to see between Canelo vs. Plant will probably going to be the real fight between the two fighters leaving the aspect of sportsmanship behind because of the conflict that have risen during their face off on press conference. The drama seem to be the highlight of the upcoming fight that gives a more exciting fight to watch for to every bettors and boxing fans. But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Yes, but after the fight, these two warriors are going to probably hug and show sportsmanship. Unless Canelo really take it personally that he won't allow Caleb to make amends on him.

So it will be good while it last, so we will see if Caleb can bring his talk inside the ring and Canelo more prepared and focus, get the belt unify the division. Thus this fight is going to be very intense and explosive in the first early rounds. Until Canelo connects his famous left hook.

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October 02, 2021, 08:39:31 AM
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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

You have a point but if Caleb will just focus on that trashtalk he received, he might end up at a disadvantage. An act of revenge is good but Canelo should control his emotion rather than just destroy Caleb Plant because of what happened in the press conference.

Now that Caleb knows the ability of Canelo once they faced off, he now needs to think of a way how to handle Canelo at the close bout. Canelo strikes his opening that quick and he didn't anticipate it.
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