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November 01, 2021, 08:28:00 AM
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

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November 01, 2021, 03:30:15 PM
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it will be very good to wait because they both have ambitions and this can also be said to be a historic unification duel to determine who is the true champion of Super Middleweight.
and this becomes even more interesting when Mike Tyson feels Caleb Plant will run out in the hands of Canelo Alvarez, who incidentally is currently serving as the king of world boxing.
And it's great whether Plant can maintain his undefeated boxing record or is it Canelo's.
I have no doubt that Canelo will win, the only undefeated fighter here is Caleb Plant, Canelo is not as he has one loss and that is against Floyd Mayweather Jr. who retired undefeated. It's a big challenge for Caleb to beat Canelo who is currently the pound for pound king, but if he will succeed, he will get the crown.
a lot of people predict it, especially with his deadly and hard punches coupled with the maturity of his age and experience, I think he can beat Plant in this match.
while plant is a boxer who is indeed quite agile and maybe to plant agility it will be very difficult to match canelo because plant is still fitter and younger than canelo.
but i'm pretty sure canelo can make a moment where maybe this match will be plant's first KO

Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.
Canelo's experience is at least much more experienced even if it's only a little, besides that he is the holder of three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO.
other than that his ability in the ring can not be doubted so it is certain that he is very superior.
Even though Plant is not something to be taken lightly, Canelo is far superior in every way.
a great match will definitely take place but for the champion i still cant hope

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November 01, 2021, 03:41:28 PM
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Upset will be very interesting and if that happened, lots of fans will call for that rematch.

But same with many opinions here, Alvarez still on his prime beating him is really a tough job for Plant to accomplish. The best thing is to try to find

every possible way to bother Alvarez and take a lucky punch to win, maybe next to impossible, but if luck permits that to happen,

Plant would be the very hot fighter to make a big noise all over the sports paces.
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November 01, 2021, 10:30:48 PM
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.

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November 01, 2021, 11:31:04 PM
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That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.
Canelo Alvarez is just 31 and i would like to say he is in his prime shape but he already had 59 fights which is a really huge number considering he is only 31 and it is hard to predict how much damage he took in those fights because i have not watched all of his fights but he is a veteran of the sport and the level of experience is really high on the other hand Caleb Plant is two years younger but he only have 21 fights.
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That's right. Age is somehow just a big deal if we are talking about a boxer on 40+. But for 29 and 31, it's still on their prime, or should I say, post-prime and 4-5 years later on, can now be called a veteran boxer.

For the names like Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant, Golovkin, etc. age should be removed as part of the analysis. Better refer to their previous fight as your references.
Canelo Alvarez is just 31 and i would like to say he is in his prime shape but he already had 59 fights which is a really huge number considering he is only 31 and it is hard to predict how much damage he took in those fights because i have not watched all of his fights but he is a veteran of the sport and the level of experience is really high on the other hand Caleb Plant is two years younger but he only have 21 fights.

Experience matters over age in boxing.

You are right there that being a 31 is not an advantage for Caleb Plants.

Who started this age issue? 31 against 29 isn't really a gap. I'm more that age is a problem when Manny Pacquiao is against those below 30 years old and fighting against a prime but still can match their power.

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November 01, 2021, 11:51:36 PM
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin
As you state it, Canelo doesn't want anything with GGG, and this is kind of sad, but this Canelo fight with Caleb can warm up the engines, maybe some questions after the fight (Assuming Canelo wins) can put in direct context For a possible meeting with GGG, which for me, this is a dream fight, without detracting from all that Caleb can do, if in that case Caleb wins, the scenario may be that with GGG the possibility is much less.

Although nothing is written, everything can happen, and everything depends on the managers of each boxer and what each of them can offer, the important thing is a show that has more emotion.

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November 03, 2021, 05:33:47 AM
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Age is not a problem because Plant is 29 years old and Canelo is 31, there's not much of an age gap and I'm pretty sure Canelo is still young and he is in his prime now. We will certainly see a great fight but on the side of the gamblers, it will be harder to find a good odds since Canelo is a heavy favorite.

That is the age of boxers where a boxer is at its prime, there is no age factor to consider, we can only consider skills punches and of course motivation, they both have a big motivation to win and they are both hungry to win if the fights turn out to be excited like a draw or Canelo get upset there's a possibility of a rematch or even a trilogy, fans are still yearning for GGG - Canelo, but this also has the making of a trilogy depending on the outcome of the fight, we all love rematch and trilogy because it's the continuation of the excitement brought by two boxers.

Sadly, Canelo doesn't want to fight with GGG again. It's 2-0 for him. He should give the fans another chance to see their fight for the last time as GGG is the only one who is capable of beating Canelo toe to toe.

And by surprise, the output instead will be GGG vs Caleb Plant because of that. Grin
As you state it, Canelo doesn't want anything with GGG, and this is kind of sad, but this Canelo fight with Caleb can warm up the engines, maybe some questions after the fight (Assuming Canelo wins) can put in direct context For a possible meeting with GGG, which for me, this is a dream fight, without detracting from all that Caleb can do, if in that case Caleb wins, the scenario may be that with GGG the possibility is much less.

Although nothing is written, everything can happen, and everything depends on the managers of each boxer and what each of them can offer, the important thing is a show that has more emotion.


That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.
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November 03, 2021, 12:40:16 PM
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That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.


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A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



There's still such a thing as a lucky punch I never rule out an upset especially with Plant who has a good knock out percentage I know that Canelo is very good and at his prime but even patsy can come out an upset although I don't want to bet that Caleb Plant can beat Canelo, we really never know unless the fight is over.
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A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



There's still such a thing as a lucky punch I never rule out an upset especially with Plant who has a good knock out percentage I know that Canelo is very good and at his prime but even patsy can come out an upset although I don't want to bet that Caleb Plant can beat Canelo, we really never know unless the fight is over.

We can't really conclude Wink most of us here are just pointing our opinions, but the fight will only be decided after the announcer declared the winner. Upset is not new to this venue, we just witness that with Pacquiao, most viewers continue to believe that Manny still has that.
edge after beating a much younger Thurman.

We can say that stats wise Alvarez is more dominated, but once luck punch to land in his critical area would give Plant the chance to win.

Though, I'm still with Alvarez here Grin I really admire his fighting style, not too aggressive, but once he made his move, he really dominates his opponent. Wink

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November 04, 2021, 07:00:14 PM
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This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.
Just trying to sell the fight, I don't there's anything more than that in the exchanges between them. Hell, even Plant knows that the odds are stacked against him, and this type of match up isn't going to encourage many casuals to watch, since as you say there's little chance of an upset on the night. Though, stranger things have happened.

Cancelo at the moment, is pretty much unchallenged. I don't think he has to worry about facing many people in the division, unfortunately for us this means he isn't likely to be fighting in back, and forth entertaining fights, and they'll just be one sided fights.
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November 04, 2021, 10:43:30 PM
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This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.
Just trying to sell the fight, I don't there's anything more than that in the exchanges between them. Hell, even Plant knows that the odds are stacked against him, and this type of match up isn't going to encourage many casuals to watch, since as you say there's little chance of an upset on the night. Though, stranger things have happened.

Cancelo at the moment, is pretty much unchallenged. I don't think he has to worry about facing many people in the division, unfortunately for us this means he isn't likely to be fighting in back, and forth entertaining fights, and they'll just be one sided fights.

We don't know if Caleb is only trash talking for the sake of selling their fight. Some boxers really do this kind of trick so they can sell more tickets. Anyway, the odds are out long time ago and Caleb already see what bookies are giving him for the odds. Will he be motivated to aim for upset on this match? We know the caliber of Canelo here, so the likelihood of upset is very low. But when inside the ring, as you said stranger things can happen.
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Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

And as Canelo said, tune in, history in the making for this fight.

 
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November 04, 2021, 11:31:41 PM
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That dream fight already happened, in fact, they had already faced each other twice and in the 2nd fight, it was Canelo who won the fight. We know a trilogy would be an exciting one, but we should respect if Canelo does not want it anymore, besides, he is still dominating in his division and has nothing to prove anymore.

A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.



This is a great odds because the odds for KO is lower so good decision mate. Just like the fight of Canelo against Callum Smith, it's possible that it will end up in the judges' scorecards where Canelo will be declared as a winner via unanimous decision. What happened in the press conference might add some spice and people would think Canelo would end this fight early but we know how smart he is, he does not fight by his emotion, he always uses his techniques to win, slowly but surely.

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November 04, 2021, 11:36:15 PM
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Upset will be very interesting and if that happened, lots of fans will call for that rematch.
But same with many opinions here, Alvarez still on his prime beating him is really a tough job for Plant to accomplish. The best thing is to try to find
every possible way to bother Alvarez and take a lucky punch to win, maybe next to impossible, but if luck permits that to happen,
Plant would be the very hot fighter to make a big noise all over the sports paces.
There is no way Canelo Alvarez will be out boxed by Caleb Plant and he is not a powerful one punch fighter and hence you cannot expect a lucky punch to get through against a fighter like Canelo Alvarez.

The only way Caleb Plant to win is Canelo Alvarez getting injured mid fight, other than that Canelo Alvarez is going to win by knockout in the later rounds.
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A trilogy with GGG may not be too exciting anymore for me as GGG has declined a lot due to age obviously while Canelo is in his prime at the moment. We might see another Pacman vs Ugas where the older fighter could hardly move  Grin.

I thought Canelo is the one declining and GGG is always open for a trilogy regardless of the age. There are talks in the past about the trilogy but Canelo is not interested as he claims he already win on that series.

This fight with Caleb Plant has become personal to Canelo for all the trash talk Caleb has thrown at Canelo and Canelo said that he wants to punish Plant for that so I guess this will go the full 12 rounds and there is no chance of an upset here IMO.

Canelo got enraged to the point that he had already done some actions at the press conference. I believed too that Canelo is now more determined to win because of that trashtalks. I hope that his momentum won't be broken for that revenge.
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November 05, 2021, 12:24:25 AM
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Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

Like the question on Caleb Plant's side, "What advantages does Plant have against Canelo?"

They answered not a strategy nor Caleb traits but instead, they said they are fully prepared and ready. In the first place, there are no specific advantages to telling the whole as it's better to let the talking and actions do on the actual date of the fight.

I like the positivity although still can't see how Caleb will deal or snatch an upset win against Canelo.

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November 05, 2021, 02:58:42 AM
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Here is the final presser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-vTx68dYU

No fanfare, just simply presser with both fighters answering questions from boxing reporters.

Like the question on Caleb Plant's side, "What advantages does Plant have against Canelo?"

They answered not a strategy nor Caleb traits but instead, they said they are fully prepared and ready. In the first place, there are no specific advantages to telling the whole as it's better to let the talking and actions do on the actual date of the fight.

I like the positivity although still can't see how Caleb will deal or snatch an upset win against Canelo.

When posed with that question, the camp of Caleb might have a hard time thinking of a specific boxing ability or quality of their fighter which makes him better than Canelo. They would neither reveal their strategy in taking up against Canelo. That's probably why they just give a somewhat vague answer in saying they are fully prepared and ready. I agree though. They cannot be less than 100% ready in facing Canelo. Canelo has everything to defeat Caleb.
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