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September 19, 2021, 02:48:37 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
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September 19, 2021, 03:51:44 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
I wish the same thing occurred here too, there's a large amount of people who are against the Covid-19 vaccine. The percentage of fully vaccinated people over 18, is a tad over 60%, which isn't that bad, but certainly not enough to achieve immunity. I've also noticed that the number of deaths are significantly lower, especially in countries with higher vaccination coverage.

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September 19, 2021, 05:10:34 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
but so far there are still many people who have been vaccinated are still infected with the virus, it's just that the symptoms they experience are mild symptoms. this is a function of vaccination, in addition to reducing the risk of contracting it also reduces the risk of experiencing severe symptoms when even death when infected.
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September 19, 2021, 05:39:41 PM
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but so far there are still many people who have been vaccinated are still infected with the virus, it's just that the symptoms they experience are mild symptoms. this is a function of vaccination, in addition to reducing the risk of contracting it also reduces the risk of experiencing severe symptoms when even death when infected.
it needs to be emphasized and needs to be educated to the public because basically this vaccine is not an anti-virus which if we are vaccinated we will avoid the virus, the concept is not like that.
This vaccine is expected to reduce the effects of the existing virus, and it is still possible to be infected even though the risk can be minimized.
but what happens in society is that they have the wrong mindset about the meaning of vaccines where when there are people who have been vaccinated they are free to take any action and feel that they will not be infected, and conversely people who have not been vaccinated see those who have been vaccinated but are still infected will say that the vaccine or not is the same as being infected.

action needs to be taken to make people's mindset change first about vaccines, I think because if they understand, I don't think it will be difficult to vaccinate on a large scale because they already understand this and understand what vaccinations are for.

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September 19, 2021, 06:54:12 PM
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Yeah being vaccinated is now a big priority to most advanced countries so much so that people will be required to present their details of being vaccinated to do certain activities,
I think many people are genuinely confused with this situation and have no clue what to do, because they see some of the vaccinated people still contacting the virus and you wonder what is the point of being vaccinated, it is a difficult situation for everyone.
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September 19, 2021, 07:05:30 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
It is the same where I am currently living, there is no direct opposition to the vaccine, there are some that are not taking the vaccine but it has to do more with ignorance than with any kind of real opposition, however the delta strain is proving to be a real issue, it seems that it is way more contagious which most likely indicates that sooner or later everyone will eventually get it, so the vaccine is key so the symptoms are mild and there are no long term effects once the body beats the disease.

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September 19, 2021, 08:00:35 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
It is the same where I am currently living, there is no direct opposition to the vaccine, there are some that are not taking the vaccine but it has to do more with ignorance than with any kind of real opposition, however the delta strain is proving to be a real issue, it seems that it is way more contagious which most likely indicates that sooner or later everyone will eventually get it, so the vaccine is key so the symptoms are mild and there are no long term effects once the body beats the disease.
The more a virus mutates, the more contagious it becomes, however, when that occurs, it usually becomes less deadly. Vaccines still work with the Delta variant, but let's keep in mind that their development started approximately in March, based on the original virus, before new strains started appearing. The virus has taken several twists since then, thus, it's pretty normal that their efficacy has been reduced.


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September 19, 2021, 08:21:19 PM
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The most important is that it decreases the severity of the illness, supposing you get infected. However, I'm a living example of someone who was in close contact with a confirmed case, I am vaccinated, and he isn't. Despite the long hours and being in an indoor area, I wasn't infected. Got tested multiple times throughout the week as well.

I have the same opinion as well. Got my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine in May 2021 and I have managed to stay uninfected. Here in my country, there is no noticeable opposition to the vaccination program (unlike the case with some of the other countries). And as a result, the average number of daily deaths have remained in the 0 to 1 range for the last many months. However, since the emergence of the delta strain, there has been a surge in the number of infections. Used to be in the 20-30 range per day, but now we are witnessing close to 1,000 new cases per day. Still the higher rate of vaccination has managed to prevent the deaths.
It is the same where I am currently living, there is no direct opposition to the vaccine, there are some that are not taking the vaccine but it has to do more with ignorance than with any kind of real opposition, however the delta strain is proving to be a real issue, it seems that it is way more contagious which most likely indicates that sooner or later everyone will eventually get it, so the vaccine is key so the symptoms are mild and there are no long term effects once the body beats the disease.
The more a virus mutates, the more contagious it becomes, however, when that occurs, it usually becomes less deadly. Vaccines still work with the Delta variant, but let's keep in mind that their development started approximately in March, based on the original virus, before new strains started appearing. The virus has taken several twists since then, thus, it's pretty normal that their efficacy has been reduced.



Virus mutation is dangerous and there is recorded cases already of lambda variant which is resistant to vaccine and hopefully people should consider that to make their belief shift and take those vaccine as early as now before anything happen so that we will not see more mutation and achieve the goal. But unfortunately many are hard headed believing on hoax if they continue to act like this maybe we cannot end up faster on this miserable life what we experiencing these days.

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September 19, 2021, 08:52:27 PM
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Yeah being vaccinated is now a big priority to most advanced countries so much so that people will be required to present their details of being vaccinated to do certain activities,
I think many people are genuinely confused with this situation and have no clue what to do, because they see some of the vaccinated people still contacting the virus and you wonder what is the point of being vaccinated, it is a difficult situation for everyone.
Even now vaccine is must for all adults in most of the countries and many already adopting this very quickly because now space is going too tight for them those are living without this vaccine but few doubts still around the world about vaccine result because I read in few countries many peoples facing this virus even they have vaccine.

We are also had very stuck policy about this now percentage is rising for vaccinated peoples because you are not able to do anything without vaccine so peoples going to this even they are not satisfied or feeling good about this all.
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September 19, 2021, 10:19:16 PM
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It is recommended that we get vaccinated in order to prevent the virus from spreading and mutating. It's terrifying for a virus to have multiple variants because we can't know if the vaccine we're using now is still effective, and if it isn't, we'll have to develop a new one, which may be more difficult for our bodies and have potentially dangerous side effects. I was initially hesitant to get vaccinated since we were unsure about it, but it appears that we must do so as soon as possible because the virus is also acting quickly.
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September 20, 2021, 03:00:12 AM
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but so far there are still many people who have been vaccinated are still infected with the virus, it's just that the symptoms they experience are mild symptoms. this is a function of vaccination, in addition to reducing the risk of contracting it also reduces the risk of experiencing severe symptoms when even death when infected.

No vaccine can be 100% effective against virus, because it mutates so rapidly. And in case of vaccines against COVID 19, some of the vaccines have reported efficacy of 95% to 97%. This is as good as it gets. Even I would have liked a vaccine that is 100% effective. But since that is not available, we need to go with the best available alternative. At least during the initial phases, a lot of people were taking this pandemic lightly. I personally heard from some that the virus is similar to common cold. But I am sure that their opinions could have changed, after almost 4.7 million individuals died from it.

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September 20, 2021, 03:05:46 AM
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The vaccination is becoming a criteria indeed and it must be also. Without vaccines, the probability of being taken into intensive care is rising very quickly. Because in that case, our immune system is having a big difficulty in fighting against the virus. And we have even deadlier variants now. We have no choice other than being vaccinated if we care about our life. There is no meaning in being anti-vaxxer.
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September 20, 2021, 06:04:29 AM
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The vaccination is becoming a criteria indeed and it must be also. Without vaccines, the probability of being taken into intensive care is rising very quickly. Because in that case, our immune system is having a big difficulty in fighting against the virus. And we have even deadlier variants now. We have no choice other than being vaccinated if we care about our life. There is no meaning in being anti-vaxxer.

With the original strain, it was OK to remain unvaccinated. It had a mortality rate of around 0.1% for those who are below 50 years of age (those without comorbidities). But the delta and other strains have changed the situation. The mortality rate for the elderly remains the same as it was before. But for younger people, it has increased by 50x to 100x, from 0.1% to somewhere between 5% to 10% (these numbers are based on my study on the data from India). So I would request everyone, irrespective of their age to get vaccinated.
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September 20, 2021, 11:26:23 AM
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I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.

Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.

It's not really impossible for countries to later require covid-19 vaccines to their citizens to be able to do the things they are used to doing prior to the pandemic. Right now, every country has a specific target population to achieve herd immunity from the virus. I think if their targeted population won't be achieved by the time they have set, it's possible for them to impose mandatory vaccination for every individual. Although maybe this would be enclosed to those people who have jobs and maybe for the students. Who knows? The government of each country is to decide for that. We just have to wait like we always do. Hopefully, we will overcome this just like other countries that are back to normal now.
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September 20, 2021, 01:30:20 PM
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Many countries have made mandatory vaccination as the main condition so that people can return to normal activities and vaccinate to achieve herd immunity, these countries are France, Italy and the United States, I think in the near future this policy will be implemented in all countries so that no options other than vaccination.
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Covid-19 vaccination has been a crucial process for us to be able to live normally in the world. Without vaccination, we will be open for any kind of threat and we will endanger other people also. And this vaccination process has a critical role in the economy of a country too. Because thanks to the vaccination, people are able to go back to their workplaces and continue to produce and develop things more effectively. And this will help the country to get close to its usual process too.
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Got my 2nd dose today with pfizer. Here in my place there are lot of discounts in every store like there are gasoline stations that has discounts in every liter you purchase for vacinnated person. There are also few restaurants. I think private sectors are getting or pushing people to get vaccinated
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September 21, 2021, 05:25:46 AM
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Got my 2nd dose today with pfizer. Here in my place there are lot of discounts in every store like there are gasoline stations that has discounts in every liter you purchase for vacinnated person. There are also few restaurants. I think private sectors are getting or pushing people to get vaccinated

The problem with Pfizer is that the efficacy of the vaccine wanes after 5-6 months. A recent study found that the efficacy of Pfizer reduces to just 42%, after five months (compared to this, Moderna fares much better and it has a 76% efficacy after 5 months). Then you need to get a booster dose to remain protected against COVID. This is one of the disadvantages for mRNA vaccines, when compared to Non-Replicating Viral Vector types. On the other hand, the overall efficacy of vaccines like AstraZeneca (AZD1222) may be lower, but they offer protection for a much longer duration.  
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Got my 2nd dose today with pfizer. Here in my place there are lot of discounts in every store like there are gasoline stations that has discounts in every liter you purchase for vacinnated person. There are also few restaurants. I think private sectors are getting or pushing people to get vaccinated

The problem with Pfizer is that the efficacy of the vaccine wanes after 5-6 months. A recent study found that the efficacy of Pfizer reduces to just 42%, after five months (compared to this, Moderna fares much better and it has a 76% efficacy after 5 months). Then you need to get a booster dose to remain protected against COVID. This is one of the disadvantages for mRNA vaccines, when compared to Non-Replicating Viral Vector types. On the other hand, the overall efficacy of vaccines like AstraZeneca (AZD1222) may be lower, but they offer protection for a much longer duration.  
In addition, scientists and researchers have also found that there is a possible link between the Pfizer vaccine and heart problems myocarditis.
This side effect of the Pfizer vaccine tends to affect men ages 16 to 30, but the risk is higher between the ages of 16 and 19.
but even so, Pfizer said in a statement that it was aware of the researchers' observations of cases of myocarditis and said there was no causal link with the vaccine.
but still this is one of the things that makes it happen

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My acquaintances fell ill. The whole family - husband, wife, child (my godson, now we support him, because he lives alone), mother-in-law ... The whole family was opposed to vaccinations, protective masks, and believed that Covid-19 is all a world conspiracy and vaccination = microchipping for remote control by people (!!!). It would be funny if it weren't sad. The mother-in-law, who said that all this is a conspiracy of the imperialists, and that everything is treated with herbs, is in intensive care with a very bad prognosis. The child (14 years old) is the easiest to endure, but his condition is not very good. Husband and wife (48-50 years old) are in the hospital, the condition is of moderate severity. But they knew about all the world conspiracies ...

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