Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world

[Leviathan.007]

I already said that a few months ago when there were people talking about the vaccine that soon the governments who produce more vaccines and do more vaccination will become great world powers since that's about the importance and about death and life of people, this should be important to do vaccination faster in any country, however, Unfortunately, some governments care about money and their power more than the people lives. I was expecting to see the vaccination of each country make effects on the economy of that country and that is obviously happening now.

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[ivankoh]

In our country all employees are required to be vaccinated, if they are not vaccinated, they cannot get a job or are fired

I have just finished the first dose of Astra vaccine, in my country it is not clear whether vaccination is compulsory or not, but we consider this as a guarantee to protect the health of individuals and communities.  The company that I work for considers it the consciousness of its employees.  It is not only a criterion but more importantly an obligation and responsibility for the risks that may arise from the huge consequences of covid19.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

The truth of this whole issue of COVID-19 and vaccination is that people did die from this disease that could have been easily contained if people had just believe it dos exist from the get go and took prevention methods to avoid getting infected. Now a vaccine has been produced, let's take away all the sentiment and propaganda been spreed but if this vaccine is the only defense against getting infected if the pandemic was to return then I won't mind getting vaccinated.

But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.

With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on  people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.

[pinggoki]

The way this statement is worded made it seem like it was a bad thing to impose stricter regulations in implementing COVID-19 Vaccine when it was the contrary actually. It must be compulsory to be vaccinated because it's not only your life that you are endangering when you go out in public without protective gears and vaccine, you're endangering other people's lives, the economy, and the world altogether. In reality a much stricter COVID-19 vaccine imposition is needed in order to rollout the safety of the public at a much higher efficacy.

The truth of this whole issue of COVID-19 and vaccination is that people did die from this disease that could have been easily contained if people had just believe it dos exist from the get go and took prevention methods to avoid getting infected. Now a vaccine has been produced, let's take away all the sentiment and propaganda been spreed but if this vaccine is the only defense against getting infected if the pandemic was to return then I won't mind getting vaccinated.

But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.

With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on  people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.

Forcing it is the only way you can get people to listen, with the amount of antivaxxer rallies , campaigns and COVID-19 deniers on TV that had already spread their lies and misinformation amongst the public, a simple information campaign will not cut it. You are right, this wouldn't have happened if people listened from the get-go, but reality is often disappointing, so here we are being forced to be vaccinated in order to ensure the safety of the public and the future generations to come.

[Oilacris]

I already said that a few months ago when there were people talking about the vaccine that soon the governments who produce more vaccines and do more vaccination will become great world powers since that's about the importance and about death and life of people, this should be important to do vaccination faster in any country, however, Unfortunately, some governments care about money and their power more than the people lives. I was expecting to see the vaccination of each country make effects on the economy of that country and that is obviously happening now.

Everything wont seem work as it should be and there would be countries whose government would really just mind on that manner and without minding much on what are their primary motives on why vaccines do exist
on the first place.

Some of countries do really make it as a business instead and tending out to corrupt which is really awful.For now vaccination is mainly been pushed for all of the citizens would really be given a shot but not all would really
be that confident on doing so.

Criteria? No one would able to force you unless if they do find ways specially of prohibiting on visiting out places or limit out some service for non-vaccinated person just like here
on my place which would leave you no choice.

[Oceat]

The world may be divided with vaccinated and non-vaccinated while only those who have done their vaccination will only be able to get inside the mall, banks or any establishment. Vaccine these days is still in a trial and error phase so it should be logical that most people would not want to get vaccinated yet because there are some cases this will lead someone to death instead of preventing from getting COVID-19. That's why most people are divided with anti-vaxxer and the vaccinated ones.

I wonder what more will be coming in the future since this pandemic is most likely won't come off until next year since the virus itself is fast mutating into a different variants. So a vaccine might need to be updated too since it's still in a trial and error phase.

[mirakal]

Sad but true, though the government assures that vaccination is not compulsory if we look at the establishment, they will require a vaccination card before you can enter the place as it's the standard set by the owners. How would anyone enjoy freedom if that's the rule? the government did not directly say it's compulsory but in reality, it is, I'm expressing my opinion based on my experience in our country.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask.

I don't think it's going to go that far in the US, though I wouldn't rule anything out with Biden as president.  But yeah, government employees and a lot of other people are going to either have to get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing.  Don't forget about that latter part, because at present it's an option for those who don't want the vaccine.

The good thing is that this is being challenged in the media and (hopefully) in the courts.  The bad thing is that there is a legal precedent for the government mandating vaccination, dating back to 1905 if I've got my date correct.  That was to prevent the spread of smallpox, and if I were living back then I'd get the vaccination with no hesitation.  Smallpox is no joke--but COVID?  The fact is that most people who get it have mild symptoms and recover just fine.  The severity of COVID infection is nowhere near that of smallpox.

The world may be divided with vaccinated and non-vaccinated while only those who have done their vaccination will only be able to get inside the mall, banks or any establishment.

Where is that currently happening?  It sure isn't in the US.  Hell, most people don't even visit malls anymore, so I wouldn't worry about that.  And banking can easily be done online.  It's the requirement for employment that's a bitch, IMO.

[Kasabus]

Sad but true, though the government assures that vaccination is not compulsory if we look at the establishment, they will require a vaccination card before you can enter the place as it's the standard set by the owners. How would anyone enjoy freedom if that's the rule? the government did not directly say it's compulsory but in reality, it is, I'm expressing my opinion based on my experience in our country.

I can truly attest to that because that's already happening in our country too. Even when it comes to public vehicles and services, passengers are required to show their vaccination card and a negative result of rapid antigen test particularly if you came from other municipalities or cities. We cannot longer enjoy our lives with this kind of governance as if those who are not vaccinated are being deprived from our privileges.

I get much affected with this type of government because i am not yet vaccinated, so other people who are fully vaccinated are acting like they want to avoid those non vaccinated ones. This is the sad reality of what is happening now.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Forcing it is the only way you can get people to listen,

And how has to worked out so far? Aren't we getting protest from the citizens instead of listening. The forcing makes it look like there are other propaganda been pushed by the government and conspiracy theories are spreading all over the internet daily and this is also discouraging people from getting vaccinated.  

I see conspiracy theories of the government putting chips to control the minds of vaccinated citizens and the mark of the breast from the bible theories etc. I even see video of users that are vaccinated putting phones and other metallic material on the spot they got vaccinated and it gets magnetized, what about the bill gates conspiracy theories (lets not just go there).

All this won't have played out if the government had just gone easy on the citizens, I understand that the pandemic was disastrous to every county's economy and the government are trying to prevent that from happening again but enforcing rules on humans like a dictator has not always been the best way to go about things.

[Tumanggor]

In our country all employees are required to be vaccinated, if they are not vaccinated, they cannot get a job or are fired

I have just finished the first dose of Astra vaccine, in my country it is not clear whether vaccination is compulsory or not, but we consider this as a guarantee to protect the health of individuals and communities.  The company that I work for considers it the consciousness of its employees.  It is not only a criterion but more importantly an obligation and responsibility for the risks that may arise from the huge consequences of covid19.

my first injection was Sinovac then the second one was AstraZeneca
the effect that arises from the Astra injection is very strong compared to Sinovac even I have a fever 1 day after receiving the Astra injection

We certainly hope that the effects on our bodies in the future don't exist and hopefully the issues that are developing about genetic change don't happen so that our lives can return to normal

[AndySt]

Forcing it is the only way you can get people to listen,

And how has to worked out so far? Aren't we getting protest from the citizens instead of listening. The forcing makes it look like there are other propaganda been pushed by the government and conspiracy theories are spreading all over the internet daily and this is also discouraging people from getting vaccinated.  
I see conspiracy theories of the government putting chips to control the minds of vaccinated citizens and the mark of the breast from the bible theories etc. I even see video of users that are vaccinated putting phones and other metallic material on the spot they got vaccinated and it gets magnetized, what about the bill gates conspiracy theories (lets not just go there).
All this won't have played out if the government had just gone easy on the citizens, I understand that the pandemic was disastrous to every county's economy and the government are trying to prevent that from happening again but enforcing rules on humans like a dictator has not always been the best way to go about things.

Unfortunately, there are some things that the government may be forced to do even by dictatorial methods. You can propagandize the population to get vaccinated as much as you want and expect consciousness, but it is worth considering the fact that it takes invaluable time and if you do not vaccinate at least two-thirds of the population quickly enough, then we can get a situation where the virus mutates and a version of the virus that is not susceptible to already released vaccines will spread among the population. Conspiracy theories will always circulate among a certain part of the population and there is nothing you can do about it . The most important thing is that these theories do not capture the confidence of the majority of the population, because the psychology of the crowd sometimes leads to disastrous consequences. Therefore, a combination of incentives and a certain amount of coercion is needed if the situation gets out of control.

[harizen]

My friend living in Canada claims that the country is only accepting citizens with their preferred vaccine brand.  I don't know if that's true but I think it is more of discrimination for me compare to not having a vaccine.

Here in our country, it's now slowly turning into a mandatory requirement in just another way. Not because we are forced to undergo vaccine but requirements for leisure travel for example now requires a vaccination card instead of a test that you are negative. Some establishments are also reported to have that vaccination as a requirement too before entering their place so that their operation will be continuing and no need for temporary close.

[Sithara007]

my first injection was Sinovac then the second one was AstraZeneca
the effect that arises from the Astra injection is very strong compared to Sinovac even I have a fever 1 day after receiving the Astra injection

We certainly hope that the effects on our bodies in the future don't exist and hopefully the issues that are developing about genetic change don't happen so that our lives can return to normal

Sinovac is essentially useless, so I am glad that you went for AstraZeneca. There will be some minor side effect, like fever and body-pain, but that is much better than getting hospitalized with COVID 19. I am surprised by your claim of genetic change. We undergo vaccination every now and then. Vaccination eradicated dreaded diseases such as small pox and polio. Apart from few unfounded rumors, there have been no reports of serious side effects from these vaccines. A few cartels are spreading misinformation about the vaccines, and that is it.

[lienfaye]

i took part in a demonstration against the "covid passport" in my country....how can we all live comfortably if the latest requirement to enter work, travel or go to the mall is to have a vaccine card?  The crisis we are experiencing is really serious, succeed or not together we must reject things that limit our human rights as human beings, especially in this pandemic period.

I understand why the government is eager for everyone to get vaccinated, it can protect us from illness not only from covid. But they must also respect the rights of people to refuse to get vaccinated for a certain reason. I got vaccinated (pfizer) already because it is advisable here though it is not mandatory yet. They cant take away the worries of people who are hesitant to get the vaccine especially that there are possible side effects which can complicate your existing illness (if there is).

[Oasisman]

my first injection was Sinovac then the second one was AstraZeneca
the effect that arises from the Astra injection is very strong compared to Sinovac even I have a fever 1 day after receiving the Astra injection

I don't know, but is that really okay If you took the 1st dose from different brand and another brand for the 2nd dose? Is that recommended?
I mean this vaccines might contain vital contents that may trigger hidden illnesses.
I'm not sure, I'm not expert. I just want to make sure as I'm about to have my 2nd dose 2 weeks from now and I want the same vaccine brand from my 1st.

Whether we like it or not, the vaccine will soon become compulsory and it will be a requirement when we're traveling or entering a building.
However, people who don't want to get vaccinated can tamper a fake vaccination documents.

[monineklutak]

my first injection was Sinovac then the second one was AstraZeneca
the effect that arises from the Astra injection is very strong compared to Sinovac even I have a fever 1 day after receiving the Astra injection

We certainly hope that the effects on our bodies in the future don't exist and hopefully the issues that are developing about genetic change don't happen so that our lives can return to normal

Sinovac is essentially useless, so I am glad that you went for AstraZeneca. There will be some minor side effect, like fever and body-pain, but that is much better than getting hospitalized with COVID 19. I am surprised by your claim of genetic change. We undergo vaccination every now and then. Vaccination eradicated dreaded diseases such as small pox and polio. Apart from few unfounded rumors, there have been no reports of serious side effects from these vaccines. A few cartels are spreading misinformation about the vaccines, and that is it.

Regarding vaccines, especially Sinovac, why do you say that it's useless because honestly I don't know much about the vaccine.
what I know is that the side effects of getting vaccinated are just like a normal fever and that seems normal so there's no need to worry,
What is clear is that we should not easily believe the information circulating out there regarding vaccines

[Rruchi man]

I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell.

Many Economies of countries in the world barely survived the pandemic, countries were thrown into debt from borrowing from the international community to build large quarantine centers, get ventilators which were in a limited supply, get medical kits, and even the cost of treating one infected citizen. Because having the covid virus makes you not just a danger to yourself but the public, the decision to be vaccinated has to be mandatory.

Most people that have not had any of the vaccines have not had a strong reason to, that's why they are being hypocrites of some sorts.

Imagine getting your dream job or finally getting a visa to go to your dream country and its a strong criteria to have been vaccinated or have had at least a shot?

[Vishnu.Reang]

Regarding vaccines, especially Sinovac, why do you say that it's useless because honestly I don't know much about the vaccine.
what I know is that the side effects of getting vaccinated are just like a normal fever and that seems normal so there's no need to worry,
What is clear is that we should not easily believe the information circulating out there regarding vaccines

Even I don't have a good opinion about Sinovac, because the countries that used these vaccine have witnessed huge spikes in new infections. Many of these countries, such as Turkey and Chile are now offering booster shots with another vaccine (AstraZeneca or Pfizer) to improve the protection level. That said, I have to admit that getting vaccinated with Sinovac is much better than staying unvaccinated. And right now Sinovac seems to be the only brand which can maintain large supplies without interruption.

[Wong Gendheng]

i took part in a demonstration against the "covid passport" in my country....how can we all live comfortably if the latest requirement to enter work, travel or go to the mall is to have a vaccine card?  The crisis we are experiencing is really serious, succeed or not together we must reject things that limit our human rights as human beings, especially in this pandemic period.

Of course this makes it difficult for everyone, the covid passport is not effective to prevent us from the covid virus, I'm afraid the covid passport is used as a business and political tool to regulate our freedom, of course we have to oppose restrictive rules such as the application of the covid passport.