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October 22, 2021, 10:25:08 AM Last edit: October 22, 2021, 11:12:49 AM by Poker Player |
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If the escrow gets ill, it's the same problem again. You can't prevent everything. Paying an escrow a fixed amount once every 2 months is less work than making weekly payments to many addresses.
I don't know if paying an escrow a fixed amount once every 2-3 weeks will make much of a difference to avoid problems. Our DM: You could hold onto some of the funds, say pre-pay 2-3 weeks or so, provide a BTC address, and I'll top it off. Can relaunch both the 777coin and Bitvest campaigns, with 10% lower rates on all 777coin levels, and 15% lower rates on all Bitvest levels.
I agree 100% with The Pharmacist's comment: 1) This isn't the first time this has happened with him, and 2) He's obviously set up a gambling site and an accompanying signature campaign that doesn't have a fail-safe mechanism in place that would allow operations to continue should he get sick or otherwise become unable to do everything himself. Even if he's made improvements, I still don't trust that a debacle like this won't happen again.
To remove the negative feedback I would like to see a system that prevents this from happening again if he gets sick/dies/whatever. And it doesn't seem like refilling escrow every two weeks is a panacea.
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I am curious about one thing now; if he starts another project, would you work for him again?
If it is just about payment issue, nothing wrong if you keep working when issue was resolved and you can make a better deal. Previously, I did not deal about frequency of payment. I did not care about it much, just to save transaction fee for him and me as well. It's a win win situation, he spends less fee, I don't have to consolidate my inputs. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) There are other things to consider when I decide to take a job or not but it's different thing and is not discussed here. If the escrow gets ill, it's the same problem again. You can't prevent everything. Paying an escrow a fixed amount once every 2 months is less work than making weekly payments to many addresses.
This. I think weekly payment is perfect. It will give a win-win situation for all. - If there is issue, it is small one
- If there is drama, it is small one
- Less damage on reputation, less headache
I think this topic can be closed. We can not verify this story so let's this accusation opens can hurt lightlord, if he tells true story. It is why I did not join this topic before you guys brought my feedback to here.
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I think this topic can be closed. We can not verify this story so let's this accusation opens can hurt lightlord, if he tells true story. It is why I did not join this topic before you guys brought my feedback to here.
I am going to remind you that neither I, nor those of us who have left him negative feedback and haven't changed it yet are the bad guys here. If anyone has done anything at least morally questionable it is him. You can report the thread if you want. For my part it's the first time I've left a thread open by me going past page 5 without locking it. I have an idea of when to lock it in the future, but it's not going to be now because there is still meaningful discussion.
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October 22, 2021, 10:40:57 AM |
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Who knows how much interest that guy made just by delaying people's payments.
Slick as fuck. And he has been doing this for years.
Way to go lite-lord!
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I was the one who previously criticized lightlord for his behavior but I don't understand some people still trying to crucify him now after he clearly said that he was injured by experimental medical product like many other people. I don't know what you want? Him posting images and proof for losing weight and looking like a skeleton or showing his medical records? He obviously made a mistake not having some backup solution for cases like this, but please give the guy a break and allow him to recover if possible. OP it's time to lock this topic.
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October 22, 2021, 12:32:25 PM |
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I was the one who previously criticized lightlord for his behavior but I don't understand some people still trying to crucify him now after he clearly said that he was injured by experimental medical product like many other people.
Source? ( It's not in his post history).
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October 22, 2021, 12:36:41 PM Merited by Quickseller (1) |
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Unfortunately, I have fallen quite ill, and have been fighting for my life for the last 2 months. I had an adverse reaction to the second vaccine, and wasn't able to eat much, and struggling a lot. My weight dropped nearly 15 pounds in one month. Pretty much a skeleton, but I seem to be getting better over time. I am better than I was a month ago, and I should be able to return things back to semi-normal on things. I will process the campaign payments out, and try to address the late withdrawals, to get that back to more normal times. https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5816/58167481.htmlEnough sourced for you?
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October 22, 2021, 12:58:28 PM |
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I was the one who previously criticized lightlord for his behavior but I don't understand some people still trying to crucify him now after he clearly said that he was injured by experimental medical product like many other people.
I do not know what you want me to answer to this demagoguery that shows that you have not read what we have said a few posts back, and if you have read it you have not wanted to know. I don't know what you want? Him posting images and proof for losing weight and looking like a skeleton or showing his medical records?
Great demagoguery. Was he gravely ill when in 2017 The Pharmacist red tagged him? We he gravely ill when, before that, there were problems with late payments, although he was not left negative trust? He obviously made a mistake not having some backup solution for cases like this, but please give the guy a break and allow him to recover if possible.
Again, great demagoguery. So now we are the ones to blame for Lightlord alleged bad health. OP it's time to lock this topic.
It's time for you to report the topic to be locked if you are so sure about it.
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October 22, 2021, 01:13:04 PM |
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Well, I'm out of this thread then. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F015%2F976%2Fhomer-simpson-bush-gif.gif&t=665&c=OmkLfjZJLqswFQ)
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October 22, 2021, 02:09:06 PM |
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Lightlord's story could be true, it could be untrue--do any of us know him that well in real life to know the truth?
It could or could not
Nobody knows. Most or all of us don't know lightlord in real life so we can not verify this story. I don't argue that whether it is true or not. My points are - Additionally, assumes this story is true, the faster the negative feedback is removed, the better for his mental health that in turn helps him to recover better and faster.
Zodiac1233 knows lightlord IRL. Both of them have posted it in each other trust feedback. Maybe he knows about the actual condition of lightlord now. But none of the forum member knows Zodiac1233 as well. Will this discussion end if he pop-up here and says about lightlord illness? However, Zodiac1233 should come forward and take the responsibility of lightlord to resolve all issue. Recently he resolved one issue here. Currently lightlord is resolving the issues one by one. Judging from his illness post, if I were in his position then I would feel like ‘how cruel the forum members are’. He really deserve time if his condition is same like he said it in that post.
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Very few people here in this thread seem to grasp that lightlord (and only lightlord) seems to have access to the two gambling site's funds. Zodiac1233, the mysterious "life long friend" has only ever posted about the two gambling sites (and nothing else - ever) and never thought to come online to pass on a message from their ?? partner ?? lightlord in the past ten weeks.
As a rare few others are saying, this isn't their first time lightlord has fallen short in their responsibilities to their signature participants. (this time 'round it was the pandemic that ate my homework)
I'm not inclined to remove my negative, and neither should you.
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October 22, 2021, 02:43:46 PM |
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Zodiac1233 knows lightlord IRL. Both of them have posted it in each other trust feedback. Maybe he knows about the actual condition of lightlord now. But none of the forum member knows Zodiac1233 as well. Will this discussion end if he pop-up here and says about lightlord illness?
Unnecessary, in my opinion. Cases were resolved. No need to dig for further details especially it is personal stuff. Assume I am light lord and told the truth. Do I have to show my face just to convince you that I was ill and just to have the sympathy to remove negative feedback on my account. I might consider a while and decide: NO.
I am out of this thread too. Previously, I did not care to join with some reasons I described above. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F015%2F976%2Fhomer-simpson-bush-gif.gif&t=665&c=OmkLfjZJLqswFQ)
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Lightlord was active again on Discord today, as well as in the Eloncoin ANN thread: Things should return more back to normal over the coming next weeks.
@lightlord, I hope you're doing well now and that things will improve at least a little bit from now on, since the previous "normal" wasn't exactly good enough.
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October 24, 2021, 02:57:55 PM |
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I'm not sure if this is important, but Lightlord is the creator of the Eloncoin thread and apparently the developer of this shitcoin. But this is not at all about that ... I found one interesting mention of one of the developers of this project two weeks before Lightlord's post was posted (I assume that this is about Lightlord).
Have You Seen Eloncoin_Dev Response on Discord? He said that the admin is currently sick [...]
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October 24, 2021, 05:19:28 PM |
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I'm not sure if this is important, but Lightlord is the creator of the Eloncoin thread and apparently the developer of this shitcoin. But this is not at all about that ... I found one interesting mention of one of the developers of this project two weeks before Lightlord's post was posted (I assume that this is about Lightlord). This is what I see right off the bat when I opened the thread I don't want even read whitepaper of this project. Developers aimed at fast money making, when they started Eloncoin. I guess they can get there, because there are a lot of inexperienced people on the market, who can give their money only for using Elon name.
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October 24, 2021, 10:44:58 PM |
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Can someone please fill me in on this 'lightlord was sick with experimental medication' bit? I see some post he made about it referenced a few times but see nothing about it in his post history.
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Can someone please fill me in on this 'lightlord was sick with experimental medication' bit? I see some post he made about it referenced a few times but see nothing about it in his post history.
I think the mention of "vaccine" in this deleted post is what triggered it: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5816/58167481.htmlSeems to be a touchy subject nowadays.
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Can someone please fill me in on this 'lightlord was sick with experimental medication' bit? I think the mention of "vaccine" in this deleted post is what triggered it I haven't seen lightlord use the word "experimental". Seems to be a touchy subject nowadays. I'm just guessing here: if it's the usual anti-vaxxers who posted it, I don't think it belongs in this topic.
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October 26, 2021, 03:43:46 AM |
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I would like to know, especially those of you who left negative feedback to Lightlord and have not changed it, what you think about whether and when to change the feedback to neutral. I have seen that yahoo62278 has changed it to neutral. suchmoon said about 10 weeks seeing that the payments were working fine.
I don't know if any of you plan to leave it negative forever?
In my case I'm open to changing it, but I'm in no hurry.
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suchmoon said about 10 weeks seeing that the payments were working fine.
I need to clarify - this was about signature campaign payments. I think 10 consecutive on-time payments is not too much to ask after being chronically late for years, and it's be a good indication that there is a serious attempt to fix the issue. I can also see some merit in the argument that if the signature campaign members are willing to put up with this then why should I care, even though they're in a bit of a hostage situation. The casino stuff is a whole other story. Having to chase the owner to withdraw your funds should be unacceptable under any circumstances. Being unable to withdraw because there is only one person capable of refilling the hot wallet and that person is sick - that's really messed up. This risk is not disclosed on the site, in fact it says that two people (lightlord and zodiac) have control of the the cold wallet funds, which would imply that either one of them could have refilled the wallet. I would call this situation "high risk". So at this point I'm inclined to revise my rating from negative to a different negative but I'll ponder this for a little while.
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