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October 24, 2021, 05:29:58 PM
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Fixed matches mostly happen in lower leagues or amature leagues . But it can happen in the big leagues as well but only the team owners would know that its fixed,so if someone tries to sell you big teams fixed matches its an apsolute scam. Also you should avoid fixed matches because its almost always limited to just a few people.
This is true, and like always when it comes to scams we need to use our common sense, we know there are fixed games at all levels all the time, what we need to wonder is why suddenly a person will appear with information that supposedly gives us privileged access to that information? After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.



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October 24, 2021, 06:27:22 PM
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I was with a friend today who was in a hurry to place his bet on some numbers that were sent to him for some football matches that he believes are fixed. I'm a bit confused how fixed matches work.

Are fixed matches real? Do the coach and players of teams were matches have been fixed, do they consent to it? If you were in a team were your next fixture has been fixed, what will be your reaction?


If you're in a team with someone who match fixes then essentially you have an enemy within your ranks - someone who is actively sabotaging your best efforts in the worst way possible. That person is likely to be acting like your friend and using the most devious methods to hide the cheating that will solely benefit them. Unless the whole team is in on it then that is likely the worst kind of betrayal you could ever face. I'm not sure how else you could react to finding that out except with disgust and all the anger in the world. Some people make their whole life about the sport that they have chosen to specialize in, it pays their bills via a salary and someone fixing matches would be severely effecting other peoples ability to increase their career path in future.

Yeah right, those who are involved with game fixing who are continuously hiding as a part of the team, where action is not the one that they are portraying, I value your words since there are honest players who don't know what's the real score inside their team; they are trying to win a game but because of the participation of another member of the team into game fixing.

The effort is worthless, and they are ended up losing the game. The career path for those people is getting slimmer than they can't win the game with people who surround them are making more money by means of game fixing.

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October 24, 2021, 08:19:21 PM
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After all if someone had that information then they can make a lot of money for themselves without the need to share that information with you, this means that anyone willingly revealing that information to you is most likely a scammer.
You are right. From what I have read, people who are fixing matches usually keeping it highly confidential so that they will find big profits in the end by making all others to bet on other side. If they leak information about fixed matches then they will get high competition for profit sharing which will ending up in lower odds. This is the reason, mostly match fixing are happening in high society and in highly confidential way.

At the same time, scammers are trying to exploit the above situation by spreading fake information about fixed matches like they are selling tips about fixed matches. Basically, if someone is aware of fixed matches then they will go for betting in big amounts so that they could get easy profits.

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October 24, 2021, 08:21:54 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
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October 24, 2021, 08:25:48 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

That tip on a fixed game is questionable if it's reliable in the first place, the logic is simple, why would anyone share fixed info if he himself can benefit it by putting a bet on it, not necessarily himself but he can hire people who can bet for him. Fewer people who know the fix the better for them.

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Last edit: October 25, 2021, 10:38:48 PM by seleme
 #206

I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
So many fishy messages on Telegram groups, sometimes they don't even hesitate to send you a unsourced file that can contain malicious software if you open it.

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October 24, 2021, 11:35:41 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.

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October 25, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
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I personally don't really believe in that, but if you want to give it a try then I think there's nothing wrong with that either. Because after all, betting will be fine when we only bet with money that is ready to lose, right. So with the initial experiment that you do at least it will give you the results, with you already having the results then you are free to continue betting that way or not, but for me personally I will not believe it easily but it depends on the situation and conditions also.

I think there are several possibilities, and I want to mention some of them here:

1. The match is not fixed, but OP's friend wins by chance, and then thinks it happened thanks to the tips he received;

2. The match is not fixed, and the bet is lost;

3. The match is fixed, and the bet is won.

Among those three, the 3rd option is the worst one imo, because with winning $100 or $200, you are stepping on the slippery road of cooperating with crooks. It is much better for you to lose your bet at once, and break your connection to people who are very likely to turn your life into hell. And I don't mean some religious "Hell" after we die, no, I mean a never-ending sequence of horrible events in this physical world we are living in.

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October 25, 2021, 11:35:27 AM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.

To be honest, I did not understand what kind of fraud scheme you just wrote. There is a generation of bots that give different predictions (and some of them will definitely be successful for obvious reasons) -> then "information" from such successful bots are sold to naive users. Or tips are generated to a large number of users in private messages (according to the same principle), and after users have appeared who believe in the quality of the tips, they are deceived.

That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)

Why are you sure that this was not the same scammer as the rest?

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October 25, 2021, 12:40:50 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
They put a lot of pressure on those who might be lured into a situation like this in a fixed match. It's sometimes a scam, especially when it's done on social media platforms like Telegram and Discord. As we can see, there are also plenty of random strangers who send you messages advertising giveaways and such, and it's the same with those people. Newbies will undoubtedly fall for this type of trick, and people will undoubtedly try it, particularly if they are looking for a quick win.
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In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.



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October 25, 2021, 04:19:47 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
They put a lot of pressure on those who might be lured into a situation like this in a fixed match. It's sometimes a scam, especially when it's done on social media platforms like Telegram and Discord. As we can see, there are also plenty of random strangers who send you messages advertising giveaways and such, and it's the same with those people. Newbies will undoubtedly fall for this type of trick, and people will undoubtedly try it, particularly if they are looking for a quick win.

They will, without a doubt, attract newcomers to this. This is a trick for new users or newbies who want to earn quickly without having to work hard. What is the issue with the fixed match? The issue with the fixed match is that it involves a large sum of money that they will earn, as well as other bets where they are deciding to win the opposite team if all of the odds are higher than others. However, if a team is the underdog and the most professional, odds multipliers are now available in sports betting. We can't really do anything about fixed matches because we can't predict them.
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October 25, 2021, 09:33:32 PM
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In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.

It's like gambling over the usual gambling. In any case, that's also an advantage to those who will bet on the ream that was supposed to win by fixed match, if any. Still like the usual placing of bets but any analysis is useless. Still the same, wait for the results and that's it.

An issue of fixed matches should not be a big deal for bettors as in general, the majority of matches are still played properly within the fair gameplay. Don't believe in those random people saying they have an information that a certain match will be fixed,

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October 25, 2021, 09:40:12 PM
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In sportsbooks we can't avoid this issue since it's all about money, we can't investigate or do research to proof it's fixed match since they were do it behind almost perfect without any trace. Usually this happen when the favorited player/team with good history didn't play well or very close fights. Of course it's really frustrated to see their bad performance and losing our bets, but it is what it is we can't really do anything.

It's like gambling over the usual gambling. In any case, that's also an advantage to those who will bet on the ream that was supposed to win by fixed match, if any. Still like the usual placing of bets but any analysis is useless. Still the same, wait for the results and that's it.

An issue of fixed matches should not be a big deal for bettors as in general, the majority of matches are still played properly within the fair gameplay. Don't believe in those random people saying they have an information that a certain match will be fixed,

Of course, almost all games are played fairly. Probably a very small number of low level matches can be fixed.
I also think a lot of people come up with rumors that the game is fixed. In my opinion, this could also be the case with the person OP spoke to.
The truth is that if we are not on the pitch or in the ring ourselves, we will not be able to confirm or deny it.

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October 25, 2021, 09:46:08 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
You should analyze the whole situation, it is not only about the turnover and timeframe.. Do a small research and you will find what kind of tricks are there to "rig" the result...
Sometimes, the single-player on the match can be "bought" with expensive deals and the sellers gonna sell yellow card fixtures for the dealers...
No matter what that player will do anything to get a yellow card by the referee and it shouldn't be a hard-to-find bookie that accepts this kind of bets...

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October 25, 2021, 09:54:54 PM
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I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
You should analyze the whole situation, it is not only about the turnover and timeframe.. Do a small research and you will find what kind of tricks are there to "rig" the result...
Sometimes, the single-player on the match can be "bought" with expensive deals and the sellers gonna sell yellow card fixtures for the dealers...
No matter what that player will do anything to get a yellow card by the referee and it shouldn't be a hard-to-find bookie that accepts this kind of bets...


I get the feeling that when we talk about a fixed match everyone thinks about the overall result of the game.
However, you have noticed a very important thing. After all, it is enough for a player to be paid for causing some event.

I remember once someone bet a very large amount on the fact that during a match a naked person would run onto the pitch. Then he ran naked to the stadium himself.

I am sure that there were many more such cases.

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October 25, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
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As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.
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October 25, 2021, 10:32:16 PM
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As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

You can also choose games that are at the international level. I'm sure players who participate in international tournaments and represent their country would never sell a match. Moreover, it is mainly at international events that players have the opportunity to show their skills and increase their value on the market. If anyone has any doubts, I think that matches at the highest level are the safest.

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October 25, 2021, 10:38:28 PM
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As everyone said, fix match can't be predicted beforehand and that's correct. Just do our usual way of betting since we don't know the result after all.

It's not that most of our bets will be fixed matches or rigged. Just bet and hope for the best. If your instincts tell you that a game isn't worth betting because of the possible rigged game then just skip betting on that match. There are lots of betting matches to choose from.

Just bet and wait if your chosen venue is not being played by those people behind game fixing. There is no assurance and everything still a rumor not unless it's been proven. Though for me there's no smoke if there's no fire inside Roll Eyes this kind of activities are always around, as bettors we don't really know when the group of illegal doers will penetrate.

Just do your normal routine and how that nothing wrong or any obvious rigging will show up. It's okay accepting that you lose, but under some unexplained circumstances, that's really annoying.

Keep in mind that part of luck is by choosing the right game to bet Grin Tongue

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October 25, 2021, 11:50:13 PM
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Just do your normal routine and how that nothing wrong or any obvious rigging will show up. It's okay accepting that you lose, but under some unexplained circumstances, that's really annoying.

You are right it's annoying to see that after our research to form our analysis, the match will be rigged.

But as mentioned above, I agree that it's not that our bets will always be landed on a fixed match. Still, 99.9% of our bets will be played as clean with no rigged or dirty tricks involved. I don't really believe in this stuffs mainly unless got news or someone involved got penalized.

I'm sure never in my betting experience that I place a bet for a possible rigged match.

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