Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

Russian drone usage in march:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA_QWcc5j8s

[Lucius]

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True numbers are impossible to find, but Russian SFSR lost exponentially many more in WW2, so it's hilarious to watch "experts" to pretend to act surprised that Russia is willing to sacrifice so much when it's literally how Russia operates.

So it's so bad that you're comforting yourself that you lost more people in WWII than in the 4+ years since you invaded Ukraine? There's no point in publishing any numbers because you'll say that it's all just Western propaganda anyway, and that Russia lost maybe a few thousand people in what you call special military operations.

The fact is that your mad emperor is sending people to slaughter every day and every hour, and almost no one in a country of 150 million people is protesting against it.
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Do you think they correctly modeled current situation (50% loss of Ukrainian population) in 4 years, when they encouraged Ukraine to go forward with this? Or do you think they were completely incompetent and honestly no one predicted that Russia was willing to take this into a war of attrition and bare such losses.

I think that figure is incorrect, because if we take into account those killed (soldiers and civilians) along with those who left the country, it is difficult for the total to be 20 million people. To me, this seems like bad propaganda from Russia, which has its people everywhere, especially within the EU and the UK.

Someone could have written that since 2014, Russia has lost, say, 50 million people, but such things cannot be verified in a country where there is fear of the government, or in a country that is exposed to aggression.

[LTU_btc]

Everything is moving towards the point that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will soon be driven beyond the Dnieper.

Scott Ritter, a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer and military analyst, has repeatedly predicted that Ukrainian forces will be pushed back, in some scenarios describing them as being forced to cross the Dnieper River.

That's why the bridges across the Dnieper are not burned yet, so that they have the opportunity to escape.

It is also impossible to note the fact that only the most combat-ready units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are destroyed, while the rest are simply pushed back.

LOL, soon . When is that your soon? I looked at map in detail and I' wondering what makes you to think so. Because there is no big changes in front line and no indications that Russians may try to cross Dnipro river But what I should expect when you're using pedophile Scott Ritter as source.

I think that figure is incorrect, because if we take into account those killed (soldiers and civilians) along with those who left the country, it is difficult for the total to be 20 million people. To me, this seems like bad propaganda from Russia, which has its people everywhere, especially within the EU and the UK.

Someone could have written that since 2014, Russia has lost, say, 50 million people, but such things cannot be verified in a country where there is fear of the government, or in a country that is exposed to aggression.

DaRude is spreading random numbers as facts - lol, nothing new. Half of population or 20 millions, even Russian propaganda aren't going with such numbers .

[montaga]

Russian drone usage in march:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA_QWcc5j8s

Yes modern warfare is all about drones, including ground drones kaputing out of place persons. No people have been harmed.
https://youtu.be/CM4NlvZUNPU
Payphones are a great hit again, they do wonders. Internal dissident on the rise. Even India arrested 3 shadow fleet ships.
Ukraine has started with writing of the history and call Russians now Muscovy , Muscovites, the original name.
Muscovites used to be able to get Mastercard bank cards in Vietnam, no more.


It is claimed that Ukraine have established air superiority all the way to the sea.


2026 the year of the great awakening all around the world, 2027 the year US change from admiralty law to common law.

[DaRude]

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True numbers are impossible to find, but Russian SFSR lost exponentially many more in WW2, so it's hilarious to watch "experts" to pretend to act surprised that Russia is willing to sacrifice so much when it's literally how Russia operates.

So it's so bad that you're comforting yourself that you lost more people in WWII than in the 4+ years since you invaded Ukraine? There's no point in publishing any numbers because you'll say that it's all just Western propaganda anyway, and that Russia lost maybe a few thousand people in what you call special military operations.

The fact is that your mad emperor is sending people to slaughter every day and every hour, and almost no one in a country of 150 million people is protesting against it.
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Do you think they correctly modeled current situation (50% loss of Ukrainian population) in 4 years, when they encouraged Ukraine to go forward with this? Or do you think they were completely incompetent and honestly no one predicted that Russia was willing to take this into a war of attrition and bare such losses.

I think that figure is incorrect, because if we take into account those killed (soldiers and civilians) along with those who left the country, it is difficult for the total to be 20 million people. To me, this seems like bad propaganda from Russia, which has its people everywhere, especially within the EU and the UK.

Someone could have written that since 2014, Russia has lost, say, 50 million people, but such things cannot be verified in a country where there is fear of the government, or in a country that is exposed to aggression.

I'm not comforting anyone, just stating obvious facts and historic trends. If we saw French all of a sudden mobilizing, suffering huge losses and going into a war of attrition, think everyone acting surprised/shocked would be justifiable. Generals/politicians/media pushing Ukraine into a war of attrition against Russia, and then acting surprised that Russia is willing to bare such losses in a war that Russia sees as existential for itself, are either lying or completely incompetent. Do you think west's think tanks, ministries of foreign affairs, research institutes, intelligence agencies correctly modeled current scenario 4 years into this conflict?

Sure, everyone must exaggerate opponents losses and minimize their own, by definition. Hard to find true numbers, that's why I'm trying to at least gauge a ratio for losses and so far what i'm seeing is it's close to 1:1. Huge losses on both sides!

There are some protests but as you correctly noted no where near enough for a critical mass, despite others spreading hopium of some imminent political/financial collapse in Russia. Russian elites seem to correctly view loss of Ukraine as an existential threat for Russia, thus they view any means to prevent that as justifiable. Seems obvious, no?

Ok if you don't agree with that assessment, provide a counter one. What do you think is the current population loss in Ukraine since 2013?  

[cornhodlr]

It looks like the main loser in both the war in Ukraine and Iran is the dead civilian populations of have nots in these countries while the most vulnerable EU citizens get to enjoy an increasingly unbearable cost of living. The only ones to profit are the oligarchs,plutocrats and usual grifter brigade who remain far from the front profiteering and devising more hell for the citizens of the world.

[Lucius]

I'm not comforting anyone, just stating obvious facts and historic trends. If we saw French all of a sudden mobilizing, suffering huge losses and going into a war of attrition, think everyone acting surprised/shocked would be justifiable. Generals/politicians/media pushing Ukraine into a war of attrition against Russia, and then acting surprised that Russia is willing to bare such losses in a war that Russia sees as existential for itself, are either lying or completely incompetent. Do you think west's think tanks, ministries of foreign affairs, research institutes, intelligence agencies correctly modeled current scenario 4 years into this conflict?

Can we agree that Russia attacked Ukraine back in 2014 and occupied part of its territory, and continued to try to occupy more territory from 2022 until today? Ukraine is only defending itself as every attacked country is defending itself, including Iran at the moment. The Russian narrative is that they are running a special military operation against the Nazis who run Ukraine with the help of other Nazis from most of the EU. Didn't this same Russia defeat the Nazis 80+ years ago?

Sure, everyone must exaggerate opponents losses and minimize their own, by definition. Hard to find true numbers, that's why I'm trying to at least gauge a ratio for losses and so far what i'm seeing is it's close to 1:1. Huge losses on both sides!

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) last month agreed, estimating that Russia had suffered 1.2 million casualties, including at least 325,000 deaths, from the beginning of the full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022 until December 2025. Ukraine estimated an additional 31,680 Russian casualties in January 2026. The CSIS estimated Ukraine had suffered up to 600,000 casualties, with as many as 140,000 deaths.

There are some protests but as you correctly noted no where near enough for a critical mass, despite others spreading hopium of some imminent political/financial collapse in Russia. Russian elites seem to correctly view loss of Ukraine as an existential threat for Russia, thus they view any means to prevent that as justifiable. Seems obvious, no?

Ok if you don't agree with that assessment, provide a counter one. What do you think is the current population loss in Ukraine since 2013?  

There are no protests because apparently people from urban centers of Russia are not dying, but poor people from rural areas of Russia and convicts who are trying to survive 6 months at the front to get their freedom. I don't think elites are crucial, it's a matter of politics and obviously enough resources to wage this kind of war for years.

What we do know is that millions of Ukrainians (mostly women and children) have gone to Western Europe - estimates in the same article quoted above put the figure at around 5.9 million, but it should be noted that around 5 million people live or have lived in the occupied territories. The realistic figure is over 10 million if all those killed (civilians and soldiers) and those displaced are taken into account.

[BADecker]

^^^ Right!

Zelensky is like a chopped off head of a snake. Europe keeps the snake's body wiggling a little for its own purposes. At the rate of decline of the popularity of the warmonger leaders of the West, Russia will take all of Ukraine long before anybody will be able to effectively resist them.

[DaRude]

I'm not comforting anyone, just stating obvious facts and historic trends. If we saw French all of a sudden mobilizing, suffering huge losses and going into a war of attrition, think everyone acting surprised/shocked would be justifiable. Generals/politicians/media pushing Ukraine into a war of attrition against Russia, and then acting surprised that Russia is willing to bare such losses in a war that Russia sees as existential for itself, are either lying or completely incompetent. Do you think west's think tanks, ministries of foreign affairs, research institutes, intelligence agencies correctly modeled current scenario 4 years into this conflict?

Can we agree that Russia attacked Ukraine back in 2014 and occupied part of its territory, and continued to try to occupy more territory from 2022 until today? Ukraine is only defending itself as every attacked country is defending itself, including Iran at the moment. The Russian narrative is that they are running a special military operation against the Nazis who run Ukraine with the help of other Nazis from most of the EU. Didn't this same Russia defeat the Nazis 80+ years ago?

Sure, everyone must exaggerate opponents losses and minimize their own, by definition. Hard to find true numbers, that's why I'm trying to at least gauge a ratio for losses and so far what i'm seeing is it's close to 1:1. Huge losses on both sides!

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) last month agreed, estimating that Russia had suffered 1.2 million casualties, including at least 325,000 deaths, from the beginning of the full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022 until December 2025. Ukraine estimated an additional 31,680 Russian casualties in January 2026. The CSIS estimated Ukraine had suffered up to 600,000 casualties, with as many as 140,000 deaths.

There are some protests but as you correctly noted no where near enough for a critical mass, despite others spreading hopium of some imminent political/financial collapse in Russia. Russian elites seem to correctly view loss of Ukraine as an existential threat for Russia, thus they view any means to prevent that as justifiable. Seems obvious, no?

Ok if you don't agree with that assessment, provide a counter one. What do you think is the current population loss in Ukraine since 2013?  

There are no protests because apparently people from urban centers of Russia are not dying, but poor people from rural areas of Russia and convicts who are trying to survive 6 months at the front to get their freedom. I don't think elites are crucial, it's a matter of politics and obviously enough resources to wage this kind of war for years.

What we do know is that millions of Ukrainians (mostly women and children) have gone to Western Europe - estimates in the same article quoted above put the figure at around 5.9 million, but it should be noted that around 5 million people live or have lived in the occupied territories. The realistic figure is over 10 million if all those killed (civilians and soldiers) and those displaced are taken into account.

Sure, after US sponsored/supported a coup detat and removed a democratically elected president of Ukraine in 2013 Russia then used it's military hard power to protect its interests in Ukraine.

Would you agree that Ukraine is fully depended on the west for military, finances, politically and now to even keep its lights on (electricity)? Ukraine essentially became a puppet state, how many hours do you think Ukraine can last without any support from the EU?

Just because something was defeated doesn't mean it can't come back. But sure, Russia is using a very loose definition of Nazism in it's official justification for it's actions in Ukraine. But this it's still exponentially better than US now claiming self defense in Iran.

True, typically attacking side looses more people, and Russia did until it switched to a war of attrition. Even before the overwhelming casualties were caused by artillery and not small arms fire. And i believe everyone agrees that Russia launched many more artillery shells at Ukraine than Ukraine at Russia. Now we're in a drone warfare, where both sides seem to be launching about equal amounts of drones at each other. On top of that, Ukraine is using a tactic of active defense, where Ukraine doesn't just defend but also goes on offensive while also retreating some units. Zaluzhnyi and Zelenskiy are still blaming each other for the failed 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive, and whatever offensive Ukraine is on now doesn't seem to be working much either.

So we have CSIS, a US based think tank headquartered in Washington DC and sponsored in part by US government and US defense contractors, putting Russian casualties at 2:1 to Ukraine. Fine, let's pretend that it's the most objective source of information and we all believe it, how long do you think Ukraine will be able to keep that up considering Russian population being over 4:1 to Ukraine? And Ukraine already lost almost 25% of it's population according to your numbers?

And how many millions of Ukrainian refugees are in Russia? And finally, how do you feel about people in the west continuing to encourage Ukrainians to fight to the last Ukrainian, seeing the current dynamics? 

[montaga]

.......... Russia will take all of Ukraine long before anybody will be able to effectively resist them.

Yes it will take exactly 3 days. So far the 3 days happened 486 times and counting.

Primorsk Port, 60% of all Russian export still burning 3 days later and fire can be seen from Finland.
https://x.com/i/status/2036509648228917335

Russian Passport has now also died.  🇷🇺 All 100 offices in Moscow to get new passport are "fully booked". Not even possible to make appointment.
Escape made impossible.
Soon Russians over 60 will have to ask for permission to receive calls from abroad.
Bummer, what will Putin do when his stooge Trump calls, will he break the law?

Rights are the greatest unfreedom. The more rights anyone has, the less free they are”

More on Muscovy and Muscovites past https://x.com/i/status/2036677457810719018

Late news:
Boomba, Russia is willing to start trading with the U.S in Dollars again and says they'll stop using B.R.I.C.S currency, China is freaking out
Hungary now cut from sensitive briefings in Brussels because Orbán fed intel to Moscow, mole seat now vacant at the table.

[BADecker]

.......... Russia will take all of Ukraine long before anybody will be able to effectively resist them.

Yes it will take exactly 3 days. So far the 3 days happened 486 times and counting.

Primorsk Port, 60% of all Russian export still burning 3 days later and fire can be seen from Finland.
https://x.com/i/status/2036509648228917335

Russian Passport has now also died.  🇷🇺 All 100 offices in Moscow to get new passport are "fully booked". Not even possible to make appointment.
Escape made impossible.
Soon Russians over 60 will have to ask for permission to receive calls from abroad.
Bummer, what will Putin do when his stooge Trump calls, will he break the law?


Rights are the greatest unfreedom. The more rights anyone has, the less free they are”

More on Muscovy and Muscovites past https://x.com/i/status/2036677457810719018

So you think it will take exactly 3 days, right? I think that nobody knows what the final result will be.

It seems that Russia is taking a beating from the EU. From the EU, because Ukraine on its own doesn't have any strength left. It also seems that the beating hasn't stopped Russia's conquering of Ukraine. But Ukraine's subsistence doesn't have much to do with Ukraine's ability to resist. The war is between the West and Russia.

As far as what is going on in Iran, nobody is sure if the US will have better final results than Russia. But whatever happens there, will affect how Russia acts in Ukraine to some extent.

Putin and others in Russia had long hoped that Ukraine would let Russia have its own land back peacefully, so that there would be little loss of life. But Zelensky doesn't seem to care about life, one way or the other... as long as he makes his money.

[DaRude]

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I think that figure is incorrect, because if we take into account those killed (soldiers and civilians) along with those who left the country, it is difficult for the total to be 20 million people. To me, this seems like bad propaganda from Russia, which has its people everywhere, especially within the EU and the UK.

Someone could have written that since 2014, Russia has lost, say, 50 million people, but such things cannot be verified in a country where there is fear of the government, or in a country that is exposed to aggression.

DaRude is spreading random numbers as facts - lol, nothing new. Half of population or 20 millions, even Russian propaganda aren't going with such numbers .

Unlike you, i cite my sources and this one is from The New Statesman (https://www.newstatesman.com/international-content/2026/03/the-new-world-war) if you have an issues with them spreading random numbers you can contact the editor Will Lloyd or escalate to his executive editor or contact their fact checking department. Good luck trying to discredit The New Statesman

[BADecker]

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I think that figure is incorrect, because if we take into account those killed (soldiers and civilians) along with those who left the country, it is difficult for the total to be 20 million people. To me, this seems like bad propaganda from Russia, which has its people everywhere, especially within the EU and the UK.

Someone could have written that since 2014, Russia has lost, say, 50 million people, but such things cannot be verified in a country where there is fear of the government, or in a country that is exposed to aggression.

DaRude is spreading random numbers as facts - lol, nothing new. Half of population or 20 millions, even Russian propaganda aren't going with such numbers .

Unlike you, i cite my sources and this one is from The New Statesman (https://www.newstatesman.com/international-content/2026/03/the-new-world-war) if you have an issues with them spreading random numbers you can contact the editor Will Lloyd or escalate to his executive editor or contact their fact checking department. Good luck trying to discredit The New Statesman

When I click on DaRude's link, above, I get a website that shows only a small part of the article. The website wants me to sign up to see the rest of the article.  So here is what I did.

- I copied the wording "Mykhed, dressed" from the article website.
- Then I depressed the Control button on the keyboard and clicked the letter "u." This opened the source page of the website.
- Then I enlarged the source page so I could read it better.
- Then I searched on the words I had copied, "Mykhed, dressed."
- Then I scrolled down and finished reading the article with the website 'html' programming language around the wording... in the source page.

That way I didn't have to sign up for the website. If they see what I did, they might change the website. So, look soon if you want to see it before they change it.





EDIT: Looks like Russia has added jet engines to some of their drones.

[Lucius]

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So we have CSIS, a US based think tank headquartered in Washington DC and sponsored in part by US government and US defense contractors, putting Russian casualties at 2:1 to Ukraine. Fine, let's pretend that it's the most objective source of information and we all believe it, how long do you think Ukraine will be able to keep that up considering Russian population being over 4:1 to Ukraine? And Ukraine already lost almost 25% of it's population according to your numbers?

And how many millions of Ukrainian refugees are in Russia? And finally, how do you feel about people in the west continuing to encourage Ukrainians to fight to the last Ukrainian, seeing the current dynamics? 

Russians only trust Russian sources, right? That's why I wrote that there's no point in citing any sources (unless they're Russian). Even if we agree that the side that attacks loses a lot more soldiers than the side that defends, you will still claim that the losses on both sides are equal, but I didn't even expect otherwise.

It is completely pointless to compare the populations of Ukraine and Russia in this context, because Russians generally have to be "motivated" to go to war, while most Ukrainians defend their country and are paid around $500 per month. Therefore, in my opinion, every Ukrainian with a rifle in his hand is worth at least 5 poorly motivated Russians who go to war because they are paid for it, and in addition they loot everything they can get their hands on.

The majority of Europeans will support Ukraine as long as necessary, in any way - because we consider Ukraine to be part of the EU (still unofficially). I survived a similar war that your Serb brothers started, they didn't give us even a 1% chance of success, but David defeated Goliath again. I think most Ukrainians live by the old saying "better a grave than a slave".

[LTU_btc]

Unlike you, i cite my sources and this one is from The New Statesman (https://www.newstatesman.com/international-content/2026/03/the-new-world-war) if you have an issues with them spreading random numbers you can contact the editor Will Lloyd or escalate to his executive editor or contact their fact checking department. Good luck trying to discredit The New Statesman

I don't know what's exactly written in this article because it's under paywall. But from your quote it looks that their source is unknown Brittish offiacial in Ukraine. So, I would say this is ''Trust me bro'' level of source.
It's first time when I hear such numbers. 20 millions, where are these people are gone. According to public data there is between 5 and 6 millions Ukrainian refugees in Russia and estimated 1.5 milliion in Europe. Where is rest 12-13 millions? Killed in war. Even Russian is their wildest dreamsaren't telling such numbers.
What is actual population of Ukraine. It's very difficult to tell it under war conditions. But if you exclude occupied regions, these numbers still won't go below 30 millions.