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October 08, 2025, 02:32:13 PM
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The point is, when there are Polish troops being killed in Ukraine, you can't ask them if they were there on their own, or if they are are there under instructions from Poland. They don't answer when you ask them. They are dead. But if they were alive and you asked them, what would they say? And where would you get the info regarding what they said so that you could trust the truth?

The point is, Russia is easily strong enough right now, with Oreshnic, to wipe out Western Europe if that were her goal. And she could probably take out the US with her standard, ages-old ICBM's.

Russia wants to trade with the world... not destroy the world, and get herself destroyed at the same time.
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Dude, North Korean government send 12,000 troops to fight for Russia including around 500 officers and three generals. Also there are lot of Chinese mercenaries are fighting for Russia.

I wonder when you realize that there has been mercenaries from all over the world fighting for Ukraine already. That's the point of mercenaries, they travel across the world to fight, as that pays well. From Finland as well.

If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine and constantly violating borders of other countries.

So a military block keeps expanding closer and closer to your borders


Back in 2008
Secretary of State Rice, Merkel's security adviser Heusgen and others stood at a bar table. Russia by itself is just one country, the American argued, according to participants, whereas Russia plus Ukraine and Belarus is an empire. She stressed that such an empire, once established, would once again seek to dominate Europe, and that the Kremlin would again pursue an aggressive foreign policy.

Then in 2013
US supports a coup of democratically elected government in Ukraine with the third highest US politician giving out cookies


And then there are sudden civil unrests in two main remaining countries still under Russia's sphere Belarus, and Kazakhstan.

Now, I can see how "If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine" would be an easy selling point to the uneducated in the west, after all the masses wouldn't even think or cared to consider the other side, what would happen to Russia, the root cause of this all, or why Russia wouldn't even consider invading Ukraine in 2012 and what happened since then? The problem i have is with governments. Surely their think tanks, analysts running prediction models, their ministries of external affairs, their ambassadors, foreign relations... all knew exactly what they were doing and the red lines they were crossing, yet they still decided to go ahead and push Ukraine to suicide itself on a tiny chance that Russia would accept this and willingly quietly just wither away.

But my biggest questions are whether back then those in power in Ukraine were just blindly used as willing idiots, or they realized what they were bringing their people into and their roll in all of this


And after Trump said "In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!" and Top EU diplomat warns Trump that Europe can’t shoulder Ukraine war burden alone...“He was the one who promised to stop the killing,” Kallas said. “So it can’t be on us.” what people are thinking still pushing Ukraine to continue to fight?



Dude, North Korean government send 12,000 troops to fight for Russia including around 500 officers and three generals. Also there are lot of Chinese mercenaries are fighting for Russia.

I wonder when you realize that there has been mercenaries from all over the world fighting for Ukraine already. That's the point of mercenaries, they travel across the world to fight, as that pays well. From Finland as well.

If Russia wouldn't want to escalate tensions in the world, they probably would not try to trigger all the Nato countries by invading Ukraine and constantly violating borders of other countries.
Russia is often telling that they're fighting alone against whole NATO, but actually, it's very far from true. If there would be invovlement of whole NATO, scenario of this war would be different.
While Russia is far from being alone. North Korea is only third part in this war that have sent their troops. And don't forget that Russia is using missiles and drones supplied from Iran and North Korea.
Mercenaries or volunteers is already different story. They come to this war from all corners of world, but none of them weren't sent by governments officially.

Ah yes mercenaries, great plausible deniability i believed peaked by US with Backwater in Afghanistan. But you're muddying up the water, the all important question is how many mercenaries are fighting for one side and how many for the other and from what countries?


Same falacy, same ridiculous pictures:

NATO does not "expand". Countries are free to join or not join NATO. The only reason why those countries joined NATO is because they have been under Russia, they know how it was and they want to make sure it does not happen again.

Tell me when NATO - the alliance NATO, not members acting on their own - have ever forced any country into joining NATO or invaded a country so that it could become a NATO member? I certainly can tell you how many nationalities got invaded and assimilated "borg style" by Ruzzia for centuries.

Example: Findland and Sweden. They were non-aligned to the limit. Do you think they joined NATO because of "cookies"Huh Then you are blind to the truth: No fuc*ing nation wants to be under Ruzzian domination. The only way to keep them in is either by subsidies or military force... or both.

Ruzzia sucks. Being Ruzzian sucks and what sucks to the limit is being non-Ruzzian but under Moscows domination. It is just a shitty life destiny of poverty, lack of opportunities, corruption, state violence, represion and sefdom. That is why countries join NATO.

Now, keep posting the same picture until you get banned for spam, it does not matter, most people understand that NATO is crap, but if the option is Moscow, the decission takes seconds.

None of this is funny, but this video is as close as "funny" as it gets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qgTUTgAcL0


You do realize that a military alliance expands when countries join, right? But at this point, i wouldn't be surprised if they started calling "getting bigger" as contraction, because why bother with facts when you can just redefine words?

Sure it's individual countries that stage the coups and put in the "right" governments, what happens after that we have no idea. We're all oblivious to soft power here, right?

What you fail to realize, is that it's healthy to have a balance of different ideologies, especially if people have the freedom of movement and have an option to leave at any time. The only logical conclusion to financial expansionism, is forever wars until one world government. Let's save those poor Chinese stuck living under the commie regime next, look how they all want our CBDCs, LGBT narrative, and our military alliance. Quick first send cookies to them and then follow that with tomahawks!

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October 08, 2025, 05:47:34 PM
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How so, Russia considers the free nations forum as a "undesirable organization"
Encouraging, fair few non three striped flags or with a cross in them.
https://www.freenationsrf.org/en

Kaliningrad (Königsberg/King's mountain) another major head-ache for Putin. Cost a lot of money to defend, week ago power lines disconnected. People used to travel a lot to Europe before the war, now with every passing day become angrier with the Fuerrer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigsberg_Castle
http://koenigsberg-eu.blogspot.com/

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Trump should declare war on Europe. Why? Not to be on the side of Russia. Rather, to keep the European Union from making the mistake of declaring war on Russia. The EU has essentially declared war on Russia through its proxy, Ukraine. But Russia has held off for a long time, because the actual declaration of war by the EU was never stated or formalized. IF war is formalized by the EU, it will turn into a world war, formally.

Trump can stop it by declaring war on Western Europe.

In 17 Days EVERYTHING changes for Europe, and Putin is not BLUFFING | Redacted - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj74gnPx5fs


In 17 Days EVERYTHING changes for Europe, and Putin is not BLUFFING | Redacted



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In just 17 days, Europe may ignite the next major war in modern history. Brussels is preparing to vote on October 24–25 on policies that could drag the entire continent into open conflict with Russia - a move that could shatter NATO, plunge economies into chaos, and mark the official return of the cannon-fodder era.

I'm warning everyone watching right now: we are living through August 1939-style days. Western elites in Brussels, Berlin, and Paris are pushing Vladimir Putin into a corner — leaving him no choice but to defend Mother Russia. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is silent, bought and paid for by the Davos cabal.
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October 10, 2025, 06:33:30 PM
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Overnight Russia bombed and droned Kiev again. Those silly Kiev civilians just don't learn that they really should leave Kiev, and move to the countryside. Why won't they move? Do they want to die?

One of the strangest things that Zelensky is doing to keep the moral of the civilians going, he is maintaining the firefighting force in tip-top condition. This keeps the people thinking that the government is strong enough to resist Russian attacks. How long will it take for 1 of 2 things to happen:

1. The Kiev people to realize that they are dying or being hospitalized in ever-growing numbers;

2. Russia to start destroying the first responders and their equipment.


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October 11, 2025, 12:59:19 PM
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Overnight Russia bombed and droned Kiev again. Those silly Kiev civilians just don't learn that they really should leave Kiev, and move to the countryside. Why won't they move? Do they want to die?

One of the strangest things that Zelensky is doing to keep the moral of the civilians going, he is maintaining the firefighting force in tip-top condition. This keeps the people thinking that the government is strong enough to resist Russian attacks. How long will it take for 1 of 2 things to happen:

1. The Kiev people to realize that they are dying or being hospitalized in ever-growing numbers;

2. Russia to start destroying the first responders and their equipment.


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Force recruitment age limit has shifted from 25-60 years, down to 18 - infinity. Zelensky, on estimate, is struggling to raise 28,000 soldiers each month. There are having Man power problems because these forced recruits dessert the battle line in mass, about 10,000, while the rest are casualties, Putin has the resources more than Zelensky, but Ukraine claim to have powerful drones. In this video, a soldier conformed with the press that they cannot outnumber Russia, both in soldiers and resources. Zelensky need a rethink about ending his people over NATO.

Here is a video of a young men being forced to join the battle https://x.com/mfa_russia/status/1975912814956191851 Zelensky is targeting 1.5 million people in the current mobilization.

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October 11, 2025, 01:51:09 PM
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Overnight Russia bombed and droned Kiev again. Those silly Kiev civilians just don't learn that they really should leave Kiev, and move to the countryside. Why won't they move? Do they want to die?


You also die in the countryside.
Just maybe the Kiew population is mostly female, as their men are fighting.
Complaining is part of the game.

Have you lived in war, or warlike situations?

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Overnight Russia bombed and droned Kiev again. Those silly Kiev civilians just don't learn that they really should leave Kiev, and move to the countryside. Why won't they move? Do they want to die?


1. You also die in the countryside.
2. Just maybe the Kiew population is mostly female, as their men are fighting.
3. Complaining is part of the game.

4. Have you lived in war, or warlike situations?

What are you really trying to say?

1. People die everywhere at different times. They die easier when they remain in Kiev.

2. Their men-fighters are mostly dead. Women can move to the countryside, too.

3. Complaining about being killed when one can reduce the odds of it shows lack of wisdom.

4. I moved to the countryside.

Putin should aim for the firefighting people and machines. That might wake the people up to move out while they still have time. If they keep on believing the Zelensky lies that most of the drones and missiles are being shot down, it's  their own fault for not looking at what is really happening around them.





As the conflict in Ukraine (which started around 2014 before the intervention of Russia in February 2022) gradually comes to an end, we wish to state clearly that the People or Regions who voted to join or became part of Russia through democratic means, which happened after (or was as a result of) the violent hijack of Ukraine by pro European forces which the new Russia regions do not recognize as legitimate authority nor want to be part of, for the right reasons, such as unreasonable coup against constituted authority, anti-Russia stands of Europe, the open promotion of immoral freedom of choice by the entity that controls Europe and other kinds of immoral practices.
We fully recognize the right of a Nation or Society to secede or be free, if the right is based on self preservation from destructive culture in its former union, and even preservation from possible attacks, annihilation, persecution, identity change in the union for not accepting the destructive culture. And this right is more accepted if the seceding nation can stand on its own or be protected by another nation with similar culture, or nation that finds its culture acceptable.


The remaining regions that equally want to secede but are still under the control of Ukraine could be allowed to remain part of Ukraine if the right to be exempted from destructive culture will be fully respected, with no further threats to the regions, otherwise they are allowed to be independent or be part of Russia, and any further attempt to prevent them would be punished or not tolerated.

In regards to "security guarantee" for Ukraine, any force that seek to provide the guarantee must be supervised by a neutral force/forces to prevent potential abuses against Ukraine or Russia. Any attempt to abuse it will be severely punished — the abusing force will be exposed, sanctioned and removed from their positions.
This force could be station in Ukraine to serve as the security guarantor.


We hoped that the Russia Ukraine issue was resolved by USA through her President (Donald Trump) so that it'll be on record that he and USA played a major role, but it seems this responsibility is too much for the President to handle even though he has done quite OK, so we decided to intervene while remaining within the path taken by the President to resolve the conflict, but without including certain contentious part.



It's important to note that once this settlement pronouncement goes into force, starting from today, no nation, region, company, organization, entity etc should reject it. The new reality, that is part of the settlement (for example Donbass being part of Russia) must not be ignored or rejected, otherwise the company, region, nation, etc will be administered by people/authority who will implement it.


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Do we really need another topic about war in Ukraine? Why you didn't posted this in one of already existing topics? And I'm wondering what make you to think that this war comes to an end? Because there is no signs that it can end soon. There was lot of expectations that Trump will end it, but he failed.
As the conflict in Ukraine (which started around 2014 before the intervention of Russia in February 2022) gradually comes to an end, we wish to state clearly that the People or Regions who voted to join or became part of Russia through democratic means, which happened after (or was as a result of) the violent hijack of Ukraine by pro European forces which the new Russia regions do not recognize as legitimate authority nor want to be part of, for the right reasons, such as unreasonable coup against constituted authority, anti-Russia stands of Europe, the open promotion of immoral freedom of choice by the entity that controls Europe and other kinds of immoral practices.
You contradict yourself here. You're implying that in 2014 happened ''unreasonable coup against constituted authority'' and at the same time you're saying that ''People or Regions who voted to join or became part of Russia through democratic means'', what actually goes against Constitution of Ukraine by all means.

In regards to "security guarantee" for Ukraine, any force that seek to provide the guarantee must be supervised by a neutral force/forces to prevent potential abuses against Ukraine or Russia. Any attempt to abuse it will be severely punished — the abusing force will be exposed, sanctioned and removed from their positions.
This force could be station in Ukraine to serve as the security guarantor.
I'm wondering what country can be accepted as neutral. Offcourse that Russia won't accept any NATO country to provide security guarantees for Ukraine. Same can be said about China, just from otherside.

^^^ Good thing nobody forces anybody to jump into any post.

Ukraine contradicts itself. It says in its constitution that its lands cannot be taken away from it. Yet it agrees with the UN that people of any region can form their own government, breaking away from a parent government if necessary.

Trump has bent over backwards to let the US be the neutral country. Putin even went to Alaska to show that he is working for peace. All that Zelensky has been doing is to ask for more armaments in his meetings with Trump. Z doesn't want peace. He wants the Ukraine constitution to rule over the UN.

Of course, Z is taking some of his cues from Western Europe. But his warmongering is even worse than theirs. By ruling over the UN, he wants to take over the world.


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The posts taken from the locked topic, "The Final settlement for the conflict between Russia and Ukraine," are interesting and good. So, I re-posted them here.



Total Collapse Near Pokrovsk! Ukrainian Forces Run in Panic, Leaving Hundreds of Vehicles Behind - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bzT3C66-OA


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^^^^^ More up to date about Pokrovsk situation.
https://youtu.be/6P-lvtnf9Ko

Meanwhile freedom for the people
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1. You also die in the countryside.
2. Just maybe the Kiew population is mostly female, as their men are fighting.
3. Complaining is part of the game.

4. Have you lived in war, or warlike situations?

What are you really trying to say?



I saying: Have you lived in war, or warlike situations?

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October 12, 2025, 06:17:38 PM
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As I said long ago in this thread, if there is a war somewhere,
there is Rooinek nearby instigating it for his own profit:

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/10/12/johnson-received-a-bribe-from-a-british-industrialist-why-did-ukraine-decide-to-fight
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As I said long ago in this thread, if there is a war somewhere,
there is Rooinek nearby instigating it for his own profit:

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/10/12/johnson-received-a-bribe-from-a-british-industrialist-why-did-ukraine-decide-to-fight


Is there a link to a UK newspaper about this?

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There is no evidence that Boris Johnson received a bribe from a British industrialist. However, he has been linked to various controversies and financial dealings since leaving office, including significant earnings from speeches and book deals. New Statesman Wikipedia

There is no evidence that Boris Johnson received a bribe from a British industrialist. However, he has been linked to various financial dealings and controversies since leaving office. For instance, he has earned significant amounts from speaking engagements and book deals, totaling nearly £5 million.

One notable connection is with Mohamed Amersi, a Tory donor who contributed to Johnson's leadership campaign. Amersi was involved in a major corruption scandal related to a $220 million payment to an offshore company, which was described as a bribe by U.S. authorities. While this raises questions about the ethics of political donations, it does not directly implicate Johnson in receiving a bribe.

Overall, while Johnson's financial activities have drawn scrutiny, there is no confirmed instance of him accepting a bribe from a British industrialist.
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[...] Western elites in Brussels, Berlin, and Paris are pushing Vladimir Putin into a corner — leaving him no choice but to defend Mother Russia. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is silent, bought and paid for by the Davos cabal.




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Putin has an option. Negotiate a peace. Nobody is pushing, it is more like the opposite.

Does Putin expect EU and US to let him expand to a full border with Poland and rebuild the Warsaw Pact? Not gonna happen.
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Is there a link to a UK newspaper about this?



They literally cited their source in text:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/10/the-1m-man-why-did-boris-johnson-take-his-donor-to-ukraine
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[...] Western elites in Brussels, Berlin, and Paris are pushing Vladimir Putin into a corner — leaving him no choice but to defend Mother Russia. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is silent, bought and paid for by the Davos cabal.




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Putin has an option. Negotiate a peace. Nobody is pushing, it is more like the opposite.

Does Putin expect EU and US to let him expand to a full border with Poland and rebuild the Warsaw Pact? Not gonna happen.

And why exactly going back to how things were in 2013, before this whole idiotic thing started, is not gonna happen?

Shockingly and totally unexpected, we're now realizing that Russia has a much bigger population than Ukraine. Who could've possibly seen that coming just in 3 years of fighting, huh? So what exactly can EU/US do about that? Send their own troops and start a world war because "west" was unsuccessful at wrestling Ukraine from Russia? Send in $4 million Tomahawk missile, which unlike ATACMS is not ballistic and subsonic at just mach 0.74 flying just a bit faster than current turbojet drones Ukraine is already sending into Russia?

The sad truth is it's not about Ukraine now (not that it ever was) and Zelenskiy couldn't end this today even if he wanted to. Everyone sees the ratings of Starmer, Macron and Merz and everybody knows what will happen to them if Zelenskiy decided to agree to sign a peace agreement today and the war in Ukraine ends with Russia keeping the 4 territories. There's a reason Trump distanced himself from this, doesn't send money and calls it Biden's war, but the idiot politicians in Europe have escalated this to the point where their own heads will roll the next day this ends and people start asking tough questions on what was the point of all of this.

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[...] Western elites in Brussels, Berlin, and Paris are pushing Vladimir Putin into a corner — leaving him no choice but to defend Mother Russia. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is silent, bought and paid for by the Davos cabal.




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Putin has an option. Negotiate a peace. Nobody is pushing, it is more like the opposite.

Does Putin expect EU and US to let him expand to a full border with Poland and rebuild the Warsaw Pact? Not gonna happen.

Actually, Putin doesn't have that option, for several reasons:
- In Russian eyes, Zelensky is not the dictator of Ukraine because he cancelled elections. There is nobody in Ukraine to negotiate with in Russia.
- Zelensky has shown by past action that his peace talks and ideas are lies.
- Zelensky wants to use ceasefires only to shore up his losses.
- Putin has requested peace talks with appropriate Ukraine people for a long time.
- Zelensky really wants the war to continue because his EU puppet masters want him to do this.
- Zelensky and the EU want the war to continue because Z and the EU leaders are raking in $billions, personally, from funds that are supposed to be going to war efforts - money laundering.
- The Ukraine constitution is against their agreement with the UN... the UN Charter allows for groups of people to form their own country if they want, but Z wouldn't allow it for their Eastern Ukrainian people.
- More than likely Z wants to conquer the world through lying past the UN charter.
- There are many more, but these were easy. Z doesn't care about his people.

Putin wants a Ukraine that is a buffer zone between the EU and Russia. It would not be a land of Russia or NATO. Do you think that Russia is going to allow NATO to move right up to it's border? Never happen.


After Robbing EU Taxpayers, Zelensky Uses Blackmail To Get Inside the Bloc



https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/10/no_author/after-robbing-eu-taxpayers-zelensky-uses-blackmail-to-get-inside-the-bloc/
Since the United States-led NATO proxy war against Russia erupted in February 2022, the European Union has doled out $216 billion in aid to Ukraine. That's equivalent to €186 billion, according to the EU's latest official count. The true figure is likely to be even more.

The United States has given a similar amount to Ukraine. All paid for by taxpayers.

That's about $400 billion total in three years, with the EU promising more over the next few years.

To put this in perspective, the EU aid to Ukraine is multiples more than all of the 27 member nations have received – combined – from the bloc's collective budget and administration. According to Euronews reporting, some of the biggest recipients of EU subsidies each year are Germany (€14 bn), France (€16.5 bn), and Poland (€14 bn). Some of the smaller recipient countries are Austria, Denmark, and Ireland (around €2 bn).

That means Ukraine has received heaps more than all of the EU members combined.

Get your head around that. Ukraine, which is not a member of the European Union, is receiving manifold what actual member states are receiving. And you wonder why people in France are angrily taking to the streets because their shambolic government wants to cut pensions and other social welfare services to save money. Elsewhere, European governments are collapsing from unsustainable debt. And, at the same time, European citizens are constantly being lectured that their states need to spend more and more money on the NATO alliance, even to the insulting point of having to accept the cutting of social benefits and public services.

Ukraine and its corrupt Kiev regime of NeoNazis has bled Europe dry. The so-called president, Vladimir Zelensky (who canceled elections last year, so he's not really a legitimate president), is reported to be funneling €50 million a month to overseas funds for his retirement while his wife goes luxury shopping in New York and Paris. Other members of the regime, like former prime minister and now "defense" minister Denys Shmyhal, are also reportedly up to their eyes in corruption, siphoning off billions in the military aid that Western taxpayers have paid for.

This week, Zelensky took his brassneckery to new levels – if that's possible. He is demanding that Ukraine be made a member of the EU, and he wants to change the rules of the bloc to speed up the process. The EU has granted Ukraine (and Moldova) a fast-track path to membership, but, to its credit, Hungary has objected to this.
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I know they did but could not find a link to theguardian article so thanks for the link.

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Harborne’s lawyers said: “Mr Harborne’s donation was given to enable Mr Johnson to stay actively engaged in mainstream UK politics. It is and was a donation, and its reporting as such is appropriate.”

They added: “Mr Harborne had and has no expectation of personal gain whatsoever. Any suggestion otherwise is completely without evidence and materially and knowingly false.”


You have to remember that 1m pounds is only chump change to the likes of Mr Johnson so not sure he would risk any wrongdoing for such a small amount of money anyway. Maybe this guy is just some old buddy of his and people in power are always scratching each others back ...in the legal sense. Unethical maybe but not illegal?

There are higher powers than him anyway who have been trying to get WW3 started in the middle east with a nook strike on Iran and then Russia and some euro nations to have a limited nook war and europe to be over ran by jihadists and marxists at the same time while rebuilding their new system of 10 blocs in the aftermath believe it or not..makes no diff.
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World War is starting to be enacted outside of Ukraine.

Gloves are OFF: Russian Submarine Sank a NATO Vessel in the International Waters of the Black Sea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DdCExuEOg.


Includes:

Boris Johnson making provocative statements.

The Guardian accuses Boris Johnson of making a bunch of money off the war.

Dimitri Medvedev has some choice words against Trump rhetoric.

More Russian drones and missiles hit Ukraine.

Russian sub sinks NATO ship in the international waters of the Black Sea.


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World War is starting to be enacted outside of Ukraine.

Gloves are OFF: Russian Submarine Sank a NATO Vessel in the International Waters of the Black Sea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DdCExuEOg.
Russian sub sinks NATO ship in the international waters of the Black Sea.


That is the only person reporting it. Most likely a fake.

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World War is starting to be enacted outside of Ukraine.

Gloves are OFF: Russian Submarine Sank a NATO Vessel in the International Waters of the Black Sea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DdCExuEOg.
Russian sub sinks NATO ship in the international waters of the Black Sea.


That is the only person reporting it. Most likely a fake.


https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/maritime-news/undefined/accidents/2025/12430/cameroon-flagged-cargo-vessel-eileen-sinks-turkish-vessel-re
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World War is starting to be enacted outside of Ukraine.

Gloves are OFF: Russian Submarine Sank a NATO Vessel in the International Waters of the Black Sea - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DdCExuEOg.
Russian sub sinks NATO ship in the international waters of the Black Sea.


That is the only person reporting it. Most likely a fake.


https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/maritime-news/undefined/accidents/2025/12430/cameroon-flagged-cargo-vessel-eileen-sinks-turkish-vessel-re

Totally unrelated to have sunk a US War ship.

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Cameroon-Flagged Cargo Vessel Eileen Sinks; Turkish Vessel Rescues Crew

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