Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[Branko]

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

Really? So how much Americans died in Iraq and Vietnam, compared to local defenders?

[Lucius]

Sources are sources, you just have to know their bias and adjust for that.

Sure, we can have different opinions but the difference seems to be between 1:1 what i claim and 2:1 what you claim. Even the best case still doesn't look good for Ukraine.

Right, just like every motivated Afghani, Iraqi, Libyan, Iranian... was worth 10 US soldiers just because they were motivated to protect their land right, solid logic! There's is your opinion and then there's what's really happening in the world. It's been years since Ukrainians were volunteering for military, Ukraine long had to resort to busification to find souls for the front lines, unsurprisingly "busified" soldiers are not very motivated and just ran away the first chance they get. Look up how much Russian soldiers get paid before talking about looting. And stop spreading fake news!

You Russians are in your black hole and you won't get out of it for another 1000 years, because like your bloody brothers the Serbs, you have acquired everything you have through lies and the bloodshed of innocent people. Only fools like you and your butcher are proud of being paid to kill, destroy and steal - it's no wonder they call your army all sorts of derogatory names, you deserve it.

Just send new Russians to Ukraine, we will send Ukraine everything it needs to bring them back home in black bags, and you and yours will then falsify the data, and when the war is over, write that a few thousand Russians and a million Ukrainians died.

[LTU_btc]

There are many more Ukrainians in EU than 1,5mil! Check your sources! Account for population on the territories now under Russia's control! And don't forget about low fertility rates during the war and excess deaths, substance abuses, suicides etc etc etc...

That's my bad, I didn't noticed that I confused things a bit. Wanted to say that there is 5-6 millions Ukrainian refugees in Europe and 1.5 million in Russia. Anyway, nobody isn't denying problems of Ukraine's demographics, it was bad already before war. But still, there is just no way that there is 50% of their population is gone.

Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

I think even Ukraine and Russia don't know exact numbers. When it comes to front line, grey zone, it's really hard to tell these things - who was killed, who is gone, who was captured. I guess Russia will never reveal their actual numbers. Ukraine - maybe after end of war

[hostm]

Zelenskyy's conflict with MPs could deprive Ukraine of IMF loans and EU membership

A serious political crisis is brewing in Ukraine: the Verkhovna Rada is blocking President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's legislative initiatives. This conflict threatens the country's access to financial assistance from the IMF and the EU, according to the British newspaper Financial Times.

we will send Ukraine everything it needs to bring them back home in black bags, and you and yours will then falsify the data, and when the war is over, write that a few thousand Russians and a million Ukrainians died.

You can't send anything to Ukraine now because the most important weapons began to be sent to Israel.

And since half of the Ukrainian army now consists of foreign mercenaries, Russia has increased the number of one-and-a-half-ton bombs to destroy them.

Come to defend Ukraine yourself and you will see the truth. But I know that you will not be able to survive there.
 

[BADecker]

It's starting to come out that funds sent to Ukraine in the beginning of the war, were diverted and sent back to their respective countries in a big circular money laundering scheme. It isn't that this info wasn't known to the NSA. It's simply that it has been hidden until now. Probably some of Trump's actions are bringing it out into the open.


NSA intercepts from late 2022 captured Ukrainian government communications...

[montaga]

General mobilization will come, no other way to replace the 30000 per month who are flat lined https://x.com/i/status/2037210180354458027
Yeah, land is cheap so a big plot is needed for the SMO reparations payment https://x.com/i/status/2037153685361615126
McDonalds know what's up, already reopen in Mykolajiw, 60 km from front line.

[DaRude]

Sources are sources, you just have to know their bias and adjust for that.

Sure, we can have different opinions but the difference seems to be between 1:1 what i claim and 2:1 what you claim. Even the best case still doesn't look good for Ukraine.

Right, just like every motivated Afghani, Iraqi, Libyan, Iranian... was worth 10 US soldiers just because they were motivated to protect their land right, solid logic! There's is your opinion and then there's what's really happening in the world. It's been years since Ukrainians were volunteering for military, Ukraine long had to resort to busification to find souls for the front lines, unsurprisingly "busified" soldiers are not very motivated and just ran away the first chance they get. Look up how much Russian soldiers get paid before talking about looting. And stop spreading fake news!

You Russians are in your black hole and you won't get out of it for another 1000 years, because like your bloody brothers the Serbs, you have acquired everything you have through lies and the bloodshed of innocent people. Only fools like you and your butcher are proud of being paid to kill, destroy and steal - it's no wonder they call your army all sorts of derogatory names, you deserve it.

Just send new Russians to Ukraine, we will send Ukraine everything it needs to bring them back home in black bags, and you and yours will then falsify the data, and when the war is over, write that a few thousand Russians and a million Ukrainians died.

After 4 years of sending only enough to Ukraine for them to loose slowly, and as you claim barely enough money to pay Ukrainian soldiers just $500 per month to go against Russia, isn't it ironic to now claim that "we will send Ukraine everything it needs"? When do you think it'll happen? If i was Ukrainian I'd take it as some mean joke, like at this point 5th year into a war you surely must be just mocking Ukrainians  

Seems like you have some anger issues you need to work out. Clearly you goal is just to cause as much damage to Russia as possible, regardless of the Ukrainian losses, even until the last Ukrainian, which is in line with the current EU thinking. The results should surprise no one.

Ukraine Struggles to Find More NATO Donors to Pay for US Weapons
Ukraine is struggling to secure fresh commitments from NATO allies to purchase US weapons for the war-torn country, Kyiv’s envoy to the military alliance said.

Currently, a small handful of countries are paying for the bulk of the weapons, and the UK is the only contributor that has recently joined the fold, Ukrainian NATO Ambassador Alyona Getmanchuk told Bloomberg. It’s becoming difficult for Ukraine to approach the same few countries over and over, she added.

The reluctance is compounding Ukraine’s growing financial predicament as Russia’s invasion grinds through its fifth year and peace talks stall. Hungary is separately blocking the release of a crucial €90 billion ($104 billion) European Union loan for Ukraine, and a political spat in Ukraine’s parliament is threatening to delay International Monetary Fund aid payments.

There are many more Ukrainians in EU than 1,5mil! Check your sources! Account for population on the territories now under Russia's control! And don't forget about low fertility rates during the war and excess deaths, substance abuses, suicides etc etc etc...

That's my bad, I didn't noticed that I confused things a bit. Wanted to say that there is 5-6 millions Ukrainian refugees in Europe and 1.5 million in Russia. Anyway, nobody isn't denying problems of Ukraine's demographics, it was bad already before war. But still, there is just no way that there is 50% of their population is gone.

Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

I think even Ukraine and Russia don't know exact numbers. When it comes to front line, grey zone, it's really hard to tell these things - who was killed, who is gone, who was captured. I guess Russia will never reveal their actual numbers. Ukraine - maybe after end of war

In your estimate, how much of the Ukrainian population is gone since US brought cookies to Ukraine in 2013?

That's a misconception. Both sides know their own losses pretty well. Companies/platoons/squads all report their status daily, are monitored live, and also need to be supplied with rations and at the very least water almost continuously. Sure at any one moment the status of some units in a grey zone might be unknown but that number is minuscule less than 0,1% of the overall force. As far as knowing the losses of the other side, that's where reconnaissance and intelligence comes it. I think intelligence agencies of all countries have a pretty good estimate of losses for Ukraine and Russia. Also advancing side needs to clear out the dead, so they have better idea. After the war is over, there are lots of ways to accurate estimate census data, don't see why researches wouldn't publish it for both sides once they're allowed to.

[LTU_btc]

In your estimate, how much of the Ukrainian population is gone since US brought cookies to Ukraine in 2013?

That's a misconception. Both sides know their own losses pretty well. Companies/platoons/squads all report their status daily, are monitored live, and also need to be supplied with rations and at the very least water almost continuously. Sure at any one moment the status of some units in a grey zone might be unknown but that number is minuscule less than 0,1% of the overall force. As far as knowing the losses of the other side, that's where reconnaissance and intelligence comes it. I think intelligence agencies of all countries have a pretty good estimate of losses for Ukraine and Russia. Also advancing side needs to clear out the dead, so they have better idea. After the war is over, there are lots of ways to accurate estimate census data, don't see why researches wouldn't publish it for both sides once they're allowed to.

I can say only estimated numbers because there is no reliable data. Even if we will look at pre-war Ukraine, their last census was just in 2001. From data that I found I would say that in territory under control of Ukraine there is slightly over 30 million people:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/us/news/journalist-claims-ukraines-population-halved-to-20-million-how-real-is-the-crisis/articleshow/129728485.cms?from=mdr
But I'm not sure it's right to look into things in such way. People who live under occupation - they didn't become Russian in one day after being Ukrainians whole their life.
About removing dead troops from battle field - it's not always possible because risk is too big to get killed by drone. I've seen plenty of videos where dead people are eaten by wild animals and dogs

[BADecker]

In your estimate, how much of the Ukrainian population is gone since US brought cookies to Ukraine in 2013?

That's a misconception. Both sides know their own losses pretty well. Companies/platoons/squads all report their status daily, are monitored live, and also need to be supplied with rations and at the very least water almost continuously. Sure at any one moment the status of some units in a grey zone might be unknown but that number is minuscule less than 0,1% of the overall force. As far as knowing the losses of the other side, that's where reconnaissance and intelligence comes it. I think intelligence agencies of all countries have a pretty good estimate of losses for Ukraine and Russia. Also advancing side needs to clear out the dead, so they have better idea. After the war is over, there are lots of ways to accurate estimate census data, don't see why researches wouldn't publish it for both sides once they're allowed to.

I can say only estimated numbers because there is no reliable data. Even if we will look at pre-war Ukraine, their last census was just in 2001. From data that I found I would say that in territory under control of Ukraine there is slightly over 30 million people:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/us/news/journalist-claims-ukraines-population-halved-to-20-million-how-real-is-the-crisis/articleshow/129728485.cms?from=mdr
But I'm not sure it's right to look into things in such way. People who live under occupation - they didn't become Russian in one day after being Ukrainians whole their life.
About removing dead troops from battle field - it's not always possible because risk is too big to get killed by drone. I've seen plenty of videos where dead people are eaten by wild animals and dogs

Many so-called Ukrainians were Russians their whole life, and only succumbed to Ukrainian authority because of the agreements that the West would not push Eastward. The West broke those agreements, and the Ukrainian Russians can't figure out whether to be happy about it or not.

People in many parts of the world eat dead animals. Now the animals are gtting their revenge.

[hostm]

Most ordinary Ukrainians are tired of the war. Because they've been left without electricity and gas. And every day, the TCC militants come for them, forcibly taking them to war.

I have Ukrainian friends who are now crying in their thousands on social media, demanding that this end.

Many still remember how good it was for them during the Soviet era. And many have already realized that Western globalists bring only death and destruction to the world.

[montaga]

........
Many so-called Ukrainians were Russians their whole life, .................

You have that arsed backward. Crimea has already been a country when such a thing as Russia did not even exist.
How people who are actually from there feel about https://x.com/i/status/2037575769367482612

...................
People in many parts of the world eat dead animals. Now the animals are getting their revenge. ....

Ukraine is dong the best to rescue. At least the sheep are not fearful today.
https://x.com/i/status/2037676729745981569


Ukraine declares war in Trillion Dollar defense industries.

Zelensky just landed in the UAE and signed a defense cooperation agreement with President MBZ.

The deal on the table changes everything about this war. Ukraine is offering Gulf states 1,000 drone interceptors per day. Each Sting interceptor costs $2,100. Each Patriot missile it replaces costs $3.9 million. In exchange, Ukraine wants the Patriot missiles the Gulf states are burning through, because Kyiv cannot get enough of them to stop Russian missiles.

Read that again. The country America refused to arm fast enough is now arming America’s allies with a weapon that costs 1,857 times less than the one America cannot produce fast enough.

The National reported on March 27 that Zelensky told reporters: “We’d like to quietly receive the Patriot missiles we have a deficit of, and give them a corresponding number of interceptors.” AFP confirmed the UAE agreement on March 28. Eleven countries have formally requested Ukraine’s drone defence expertise per Zelensky’s own count. Over 200 Ukrainian military specialists are already deployed across the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Jordan.

Here is the arithmetic that should terrify every Pentagon procurement officer on earth.

The United States fired 943 Patriot interceptors in the first four days of the Iran war per a US Congressional study cited by the Jerusalem Post. That is eighteen months of Lockheed Martin’s annual production consumed in 96 hours. Each of those 943 shots cost $3.9 million. Total expenditure: $3.68 billion in four days on defensive interceptions alone. Iran produces 10,000 Shahed drones per month per Reuters. Each drone costs $20,000 to $50,000. The cost exchange ratio is 114 to 1 in Iran’s favour per Military Times.

Ukraine’s Sting interceptor inverts this arithmetic entirely. At $2,100, the cost ratio flips from 114-to-1 against America to roughly 10-to-1 against Iran. Ukraine can supply 1,000 per day. That is 30,000 per month against Iran’s 10,000 Shaheds per month. For the first time in this war, the defender’s production rate exceeds the attacker’s production rate at a fraction of the cost.

And the country that built this weapon is the same country that Trump publicly rejected. “No, they are not helping. We do not need their help. We know more about drones than anyone else” per Fox News. He doubled down: “The last person we need help from is Zelensky.” Meanwhile the Pentagon notified Congress of plans to redirect $750 million in Ukraine-bound Patriot missiles to Gulf states per House of Saud reporting. America is simultaneously refusing Ukraine’s cheap solution and cannibalising Ukraine’s expensive one.

Zelensky framed this explicitly. He told The National: “No matter how many Patriots, THAADs, or other air-defence systems are in the Middle East, that alone is not enough for fully effective air defence.” He told the UK Parliament: “When it comes to shooting down massive Shahed attacks, only Ukrainian experience can really help with this today.”

The Pentagon is spending $3.9 million per interception, raiding Swiss fighter jet accounts to cover shortfalls, and diverting Ukraine’s own Patriot supply to the Gulf. Zelensky is offering the same result for $2,100 and producing 1,000 units per day. The market has a word for this kind of disruption.

The $2,100 drone is the most important weapon in this war. And the country that built it is the one America said it did not need.