Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[DaRude]

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

Really? So how much Americans died in Iraq and Vietnam, compared to local defenders?

We can't only count local defenders in both examples Vietnam and Iraq. The american part is an organized army armed with weapons and reserves and strategies. While the other part is in small scale few armed peopled gathered in small groups (nothing to compare with an organized army), while the total rest is civilians without arms. More than 1 million person killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2009, do you think all of them are defenders? While the number of killed american soldiers in Iraq in the same period is less than 4500 soldiers. Similar rates in Vietnam and in Afghanistan as well.

With Russia and Ukraine, more than 99% of russian victims are soldiers. While a great percentage in the Ukrainian side are civilians. The comparison can't be accurate if one side is always the attacker and the other is always the defender.

Why are you spreading lies and fakes? What "great percentage [victims] in the Ukrainian side are civilians" give us numbers and cite them or delete this propaganda BS!

[hostm]

great percentage [victims] in the Ukrainian side are civilians

The entire country has fallen victim to Zelenskyy's regime. Orthodox Christians are suffering first and foremost. They have suffered throughout history and in every country.

The mother asked for a funeral service for a Ukrainian soldier who died in the war, but the Right Sector forbade the church from opening. It was like, "Die and go to hell."

And then there's the forced mobilization. A minibus arrives in a certain area and they force all the men who haven't managed to hide into it.

But the worst thing is that people are trying to escape the country, but very few succeed. There are several YouTube channels (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCZHAlwVkKk) where Ukrainians share stories of how they managed to escape the country and go abroad. On the Ukrainian border, people are simply being shot by border guards.

[Kavelj22]

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

Really? So how much Americans died in Iraq and Vietnam, compared to local defenders?

We can't only count local defenders in both examples Vietnam and Iraq. The american part is an organized army armed with weapons and reserves and strategies. While the other part is in small scale few armed peopled gathered in small groups (nothing to compare with an organized army), while the total rest is civilians without arms. More than 1 million person killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2009, do you think all of them are defenders? While the number of killed american soldiers in Iraq in the same period is less than 4500 soldiers. Similar rates in Vietnam and in Afghanistan as well.

With Russia and Ukraine, more than 99% of russian victims are soldiers. While a great percentage in the Ukrainian side are civilians. The comparison can't be accurate if one side is always the attacker and the other is always the defender.

Why are you spreading lies and fakes? What "great percentage [victims] in the Ukrainian side are civilians" give us numbers and cite them or delete this propaganda BS!

According to this statistic, The OHCHR verified a total of 57,508 civilian casualties during Russia's invasion of Ukraine as of February 28, 2026. 42,144 of them are people that were reported to have been injured. However, OHCHR specified that the real numbers could be higher. It means more than 15,000 killed which more than 97% of them are civilians. It's easy to check by yourself the comparison with total number of Russians killed in this war. The great majority are soldiers. This is normal because Russia in the attacker part. Check this wiki fyi:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

[BADecker]

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Why are you spreading lies and fakes? What "great percentage [victims] in the Ukrainian side are civilians" give us numbers and cite them or delete this propaganda BS!

According to this statistic, The OHCHR verified a total of 57,508 civilian casualties during Russia's invasion of Ukraine as of February 28, 2026. 42,144 of them are people that were reported to have been injured. However, OHCHR specified that the real numbers could be higher. It means more than 15,000 killed which more than 97% of them are civilians. It's easy to check by yourself the comparison with total number of Russians killed in this war. The great majority are soldiers. This is normal because Russia in the attacker part. Check this wiki fyi:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

There is a piece of somewhat faulty thinking in what you say.

Russia started this whole thing out as a 'Special Military Operation', not a war, to put down a military-like, terrorist act that the Ukraine government was doing. The US has done this kind of thing around the world... in Europe, the Middle East, Asia, South and Central America, and maybe more. It was formerly called a police action.

Ukraine turned it into a war by not allowing themselves to be policed.

When a nation goes to war, there aren't any civilians. Why not? Because one way or another, all the citizens are supporting the war activity. The whole nation, be it either Russia or Ukraine, is a military war machine. There are no civilians. There are only military personnel in various positions, some of them barely active in the formal war at all.

Since it was Ukraine that started attacking the civilians before there even was a war, members of the Ukraine government turned themselves into terrorists. Then they went big, and turned it into a war. So, it is a Ukraine terrorist-war. The whole nation has volunteered to be terrorists, even if they are not militarily active other than support of Ukraine in various incidental ways. Similar with Russia now that it has become a war.

Big media people who are acting on behalf of the warmongers are the ones who started calling it a war. This is part of what prompted Ukraine to actually turn it into a way. This and the money laundering Ukraine has been doing by using funds that they received for the war to enrich all kinds of people individually, rather than for using it in the war.

[DaRude]

I would not agree (nor would anyone in the West) that the losses of military personnel (if that's what you mean) are equal on both sides - because the attacking side, as a rule, loses far more people than the defending one. Only Ukraine and Russia know the exact figures, but some international studies say that Ukraine lost around 140 000, while Russia lost over 300 000 soldiers.

Really? So how much Americans died in Iraq and Vietnam, compared to local defenders?

We can't only count local defenders in both examples Vietnam and Iraq. The american part is an organized army armed with weapons and reserves and strategies. While the other part is in small scale few armed peopled gathered in small groups (nothing to compare with an organized army), while the total rest is civilians without arms. More than 1 million person killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2009, do you think all of them are defenders? While the number of killed american soldiers in Iraq in the same period is less than 4500 soldiers. Similar rates in Vietnam and in Afghanistan as well.

With Russia and Ukraine, more than 99% of russian victims are soldiers. While a great percentage in the Ukrainian side are civilians. The comparison can't be accurate if one side is always the attacker and the other is always the defender.

Why are you spreading lies and fakes? What "great percentage [victims] in the Ukrainian side are civilians" give us numbers and cite them or delete this propaganda BS!

According to this statistic, The OHCHR verified a total of 57,508 civilian casualties during Russia's invasion of Ukraine as of February 28, 2026. 42,144 of them are people that were reported to have been injured. However, OHCHR specified that the real numbers could be higher. It means more than 15,000 killed which more than 97% of them are civilians. It's easy to check by yourself the comparison with total number of Russians killed in this war. The great majority are soldiers. This is normal because Russia in the attacker part. Check this wiki fyi:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

How many of those civilian casualties were cause by Ukraine on Russia's controlled territories?


"Number of civilian casualties in Ukraine" all fighting outside of Kursk fiasco is happening "in Ukraine". Tricky wording to make it sound like all of it was caused by Russia