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March 05, 2022, 05:52:45 PM |
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There are a lot of gamblers who are also a donator, you don't need to give up something just to help other people, there's a lot of ways to help them. Boycotting Russian companies can also affect many people especially their employees so better to keep on playing as long as you know that it is still safe, you are helping people indirectly through this believe me. This war give so much pain already, we can gamble without any hate but of course we should set aside our emotion and always go for the safest way to gamble.
And there are also gambling companies that do donations. It is good to know that there are still people that are like this that also care for others and not only for themselves. May these people blessed with a bigger income. Sorry OP, but I am with @Johnyz because as and employee before, I know how it feels when the company where you work with is collapsing because of the less customers they're getting and even if it's against the company, they are going to reduced their employees. I don't want someone that will experience the same so I'm still going to support Russian based gambling sites but except only for the shady ones of course.
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March 05, 2022, 08:34:49 PM |
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I think that spend your money from gambling to charity is more effective help to the innocent people than to gamble on another sites. The easiest way that these gambling platform can answer - they will freeze all deposits from all users and you can`t do anything with it. Try to think without emotions what you can do and who will suffer from your actions.
+ 2 on that mate, it is much better to Place your funds directly to the donation box than put it in gambling or something similar from others. though there are others that wanted to risk gambling their small fund before donating because if there is a chance that they won? then the amount of donation will be doubled or even more. but of course best to donate automatically than that gambling. Well, I will not support gambling with the fund meant for donation just to increase the amount with the winning, what if you never won the bet what will happen to your donation will you make up for another money to make the donation or just mourn your losses. It's better to set aside the fund you want to use for donation because this is wartime and a matter of agency and not to gamble at it. But if you have a big winning on a personal note you can donate the money to charity or help in the war.
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March 05, 2022, 08:58:25 PM |
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I think that spend your money from gambling to charity is more effective help to the innocent people than to gamble on another sites. The easiest way that these gambling platform can answer - they will freeze all deposits from all users and you can`t do anything with it. Try to think without emotions what you can do and who will suffer from your actions.
+ 2 on that mate, it is much better to Place your funds directly to the donation box than put it in gambling or something similar from others. though there are others that wanted to risk gambling their small fund before donating because if there is a chance that they won? then the amount of donation will be doubled or even more. but of course best to donate automatically than that gambling. Well, I will not support gambling with the fund meant for donation just to increase the amount with the winning, what if you never won the bet what will happen to your donation will you make up for another money to make the donation or just mourn your losses. It's better to set aside the fund you want to use for donation because this is wartime and a matter of agency and not to gamble at it. But if you have a big winning on a personal note you can donate the money to charity or help in the war. ^ So it means you are not helping this way if you want to place your fund in gambling as a donation fund. It seems to take advantage of the opportunity and hope that you will be able to win it and double your money but the purpose of donating your fund was not there. If you really wanted to help, just directly send the fund to the donation address and not to the gambling platform. We hope that this war will end soon and there is no sanction to all countries against Russia and all gambling businesses operated by Russians will accepted again.
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March 05, 2022, 09:19:45 PM |
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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL
Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.
What are we achieving from this WAR?
PS: This is not an statement in favor of 1xBET and 1xBit . These scammers should not be existed in the first place.
Funny enough the sanctions cannot stop Russia from pushing the war further. Russian Government is tough in the world politics and ruthless. Most of the weapons used to fight are produced locally in Russia and these numerous restrictions will not hinder the production of ammunition. I think what should be at stake now is not sanctioning Russia but making out a means of stopping the war. A lot of innocent people are suffering for what they don't know about. Your point though is superb. I see 1xBET and have not used their website though.
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March 05, 2022, 09:27:31 PM |
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I think that spend your money from gambling to charity is more effective help to the innocent people than to gamble on another sites. The easiest way that these gambling platform can answer - they will freeze all deposits from all users and you can`t do anything with it. Try to think without emotions what you can do and who will suffer from your actions.
+ 2 on that mate, it is much better to Place your funds directly to the donation box than put it in gambling or something similar from others. though there are others that wanted to risk gambling their small fund before donating because if there is a chance that they won? then the amount of donation will be doubled or even more. but of course best to donate automatically than that gambling. Well, I will not support gambling with the fund meant for donation just to increase the amount with the winning, what if you never won the bet what will happen to your donation will you make up for another money to make the donation or just mourn your losses. It's better to set aside the fund you want to use for donation because this is wartime and a matter of agency and not to gamble at it. But if you have a big winning on a personal note you can donate the money to charity or help in the war. You have one problem in your opinion. You are telling "if you win". When you donate without "if" - you can guarantee your donate. If you gamble - you can possible donate more. But the same time you can donate nothing. It isn`t a problem for me - this is your money, but i`m always talking about maths. It is smth about calculating. Not only money but also your actions and it consequences.
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March 05, 2022, 09:36:31 PM |
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As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.
RESPECT one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country, And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful.
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March 05, 2022, 09:43:03 PM |
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As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.
RESPECT one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country, And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful. Unfortunately, this virtue has been ignored by many. And now, we are clearly seeing it because we are witnessing this war. If there is respect, definitely, there will be no war, because they will sit on the table peacefully and negotiate what needs to be done. But if one of the leaders doesn't like that kind of arrangement, and push thru his self-interest, this is what happens - chaos and sufferings. When it comes to gambling or any Russian industry, it depends on you. Most of them don't want this war to happen, so I don't think they need to suffer in this situation.
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March 05, 2022, 09:56:54 PM |
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I fully support the sanctioning of the Russian government. People or companies operating in Russia have no influence on the decisions of the totalitarian government. Many people who live in Russia are against such behavior and are even ashamed of it and protests in the streets. I think we should be careful about who we want to boycott.
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March 05, 2022, 09:59:17 PM |
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These are businesses that are just operating like any other gambling websites that are not from Russia. What a sanction if everyone is going to boycott all of them even they could also be an advocate of peace and not war.
I guess that from those mentioned companies, there are those that condemns what their government is doing. If there's a way to know that, for sure that you'll say not to include them in boycott.
As the condition, the others are outright scam and they deserve to be boycotted.
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March 05, 2022, 10:08:22 PM |
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We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians.
Citing official information, Russia is the only country where 1xbet is banned due to problems with the tax office. The owners have Cyprus passports and the company has its headquarters in Limassol, Cyprus. From other hand 1xbit claims that has nothing to do with 1xbet. As for the boycotting of Russian companies, I support it.
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March 05, 2022, 10:22:08 PM |
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As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.
RESPECT one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country, And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful. Unfortunately, this virtue has been ignored by many. And now, we are clearly seeing it because we are witnessing this war. If there is respect, definitely, there will be no war, because they will sit on the table peacefully and negotiate what needs to be done. But if one of the leaders doesn't like that kind of arrangement, and push thru his self-interest, this is what happens - chaos and sufferings. When it comes to gambling or any Russian industry, it depends on you. Most of them don't want this war to happen, so I don't think they need to suffer in this situation. I think Putin continue to do this because Ukraine President pursue his plan to join on NATO and the Russian president got worried about it since little by little USA slowly taking the control on every russian border and that is a big threat for them if the world war 3 fire up. But hopefully they can settle this up and no more blood sheed will happen in Ukrainian soil because this is totally not good seeing childrens getting affected on this war and other country economy is affected to.
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March 05, 2022, 10:31:04 PM |
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As stated by you guys, everyone has their own free will to make their own decisions, and support whoever and whatever causes they would want to. And so the bottom-line of this for all of us is to respect one another, it is not bad to educate other people but do not be too assertive in fighting your stand but do it with all respect.
RESPECT one simple word but hard to do, sad but true nowadays, any people in this word lack of respect even some professionals or those people who are in the top position in their country, And this is one of the reasons why people encounter some crimes or even war because they don't have respect for each other. Whenever we do respect is the most important we have in our lives in order to be peaceful. Unfortunately, this virtue has been ignored by many. And now, we are clearly seeing it because we are witnessing this war. If there is respect, definitely, there will be no war, because they will sit on the table peacefully and negotiate what needs to be done. But if one of the leaders doesn't like that kind of arrangement, and push thru his self-interest, this is what happens - chaos and sufferings. When it comes to gambling or any Russian industry, it depends on you. Most of them don't want this war to happen, so I don't think they need to suffer in this situation. I think Putin continue to do this because Ukraine President pursue his plan to join on NATO and the Russian president got worried about it since little by little USA slowly taking the control on every russian border and that is a big threat for them if the world war 3 fire up. But hopefully they can settle this up and no more blood sheed will happen in Ukrainian soil because this is totally not good seeing childrens getting affected on this war and other country economy is affected to. if the world war 3 will happen sooner the economy will rise up and I think that the price of our needs right now will be double or triple if the war will happen and I do hope that this will not happen many innocent people will suffer and many children or even adult will die in crisis. All we can do is pray that this two-country will peace in a short period of time.
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March 05, 2022, 11:11:20 PM |
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I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries. From other hand 1xbit claims that has nothing to do with 1xbet.
Scammers cannot be trusted for anything they claim. Unless you can back up their claims with some verifiable evidence? I don't have any evidence, that's just 1xbit support statement.
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March 06, 2022, 01:24:44 AM |
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I think that spend your money from gambling to charity is more effective help to the innocent people than to gamble on another sites. The easiest way that these gambling platform can answer - they will freeze all deposits from all users and you can`t do anything with it. Try to think without emotions what you can do and who will suffer from your actions.
+ 2 on that mate, it is much better to Place your funds directly to the donation box than put it in gambling or something similar from others. though there are others that wanted to risk gambling their small fund before donating because if there is a chance that they won? then the amount of donation will be doubled or even more. but of course best to donate automatic than that gambling . You're right. Why risk the money in gambling if you can directly donate to charity (for people who are really willing to help). There's no need to gamble to double your money before donating because chances to lose it is high. Plus for donation, any amount will do its a big help already. Anyway, I dont think boycotting Russian casinos are a good idea because they have nothing to do with the decision of their government to invade Ukraine. As long as it is not a scam casino then there's no reason to refrain yourself if you want to gamble.
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March 06, 2022, 05:59:49 AM |
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Anyway, I dont think boycotting Russian casinos are a good idea because they have nothing to do with the decision of their government to invade Ukraine. As long as it is not a scam casino then there's no reason to refrain yourself if you want to gamble.
Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.
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March 06, 2022, 10:54:05 AM |
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Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.
Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them. It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy.
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March 06, 2022, 11:24:34 AM |
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I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries. You obviously didn't do any research, but that didn't stop you from spreading lies and misinformation about the scamming casino to justify your cause. The articles I shared say that 1XBET company (casino) is banned, illegal and / or prohibited in those countries. And that's just a fraction of the stories I read. Regardless of whether 1xbet's website (and all its clones) is blocked in these countries, the fact that the company does not operate legally remains. You should read more and guess less. From other hand 1xbit claims that has nothing to do with 1xbet.
Scammers cannot be trusted for anything they claim. Unless you can back up their claims with some verifiable evidence? I don't have any evidence, that's just 1xbit support statement. They also state they are not scamming their players ... I'm not sure which I should believe - their statements, or hundreds of cases claiming the opposite.
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March 06, 2022, 01:17:03 PM |
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Of course, they don't have anything to do with Putin's decision, but a boycott is a voice or an action that tells that we don't want to have anything to do with anything related to Russia, this is a small action but in tune to what the world is doing, telling the Russian government that they are against their aggression, the world is turning against Russia even their ally China did not agree to what Putin is doing.
Small action but really with make these companies suffer if most of their customers are going to stop using them. It's like a protest if people will stop using them and that's really a voice that they will hear loudly when their revenue is becoming low. And that will affect not just the company itself but also the contribution of that casino to Russia's economy. Sadly, this is the cost of the Russian government action they are putting on a bigger risk their innocent citizen and now the world really hates them because of that action. Boycotting a crypto gambling site based in Russia can affect their economy even if there's no bigger number for gambling site there, still they'll lose money because of this. Most of the online companies are now suspending their ties with Russian companies, recently Visa and Mastercard already announce their decision and this could affect the gamblers as well, especially if they are using cards to fund their account. Even Russian people will find a hard time to gamble at this moment.
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March 06, 2022, 01:45:05 PM |
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I did not make an in-depth investigation of the articles you provided, but I think the misunderstanding may be that I wrote about the fact that 1xbet activities (as company) have been banned in Russia. The articles, you provided probably say that the 1xbet website has been blocked in that countries.
I don't have any evidence, that's just 1xbit support statement.
It's clear that you are completely biased and are willing to advertise for this scam site, even after it has destroyed your trust rating at these forums - it's unlikely anyone will ever do business again with you in future. Of course 1xbit are going to say that, 1xbet was launched after their reputation and terrible business practices were exposed here, so they could snare a whole new set of customers. Anyone who has been around here for just a little while can easily see to stay away from them and no sane casino owner would make such a business name that has an obvious connection. Either way, everyone should avoid doing business with anyone affiliated in Russia because the sanctions just seem to keep getting worse and your money might get caught up in that next.
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