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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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December 13, 2022, 11:11:43 PM
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and now we will all have to wait and see who will take the other ticket in France vs Morocco.
can't wait for this match to see France slaughter Morocco for more than 1 goal like Argentina did against Croatia earlier, I think many people make predictions for the final later Argentina vs France because France is seeded in the semifinal match later even though there could be a surprise Argentina vs Morocco in the final also not bad, looks like it will, but i hope morocco loses against france because i bet on france
I take the same thing like. My prediction for argentina has destroyed croatia was real but it seems like that morocco with france gonna be a very interesting thing. Will messi meet mbappe in the final of world cup? we know that even though mbappe was messi's friend in the PSG but mbappe was very arrogant with him. I do like to see the competition between france and argentina in the final of world cup. Croatia can only defense and controlling the ball until the end of game but it doesn't have way to attack argentina. Argentina can use counter attack to give surprise attack.
Alvarez was doing so well in this match

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December 13, 2022, 11:11:56 PM
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But after the penalty things started to change.
I am maybe biased since I am Croatian, but I don't really think that was a penalty. Alvarez ran into Livakovic, there was nothing he could do really. But I agree that goal shook us way more than it should have as up until then Argentina didn't create nothing really.
I understand your point of view, but the GK went out for the ball, missed it, and took the man down in the process; how is that not a penalty? Running into a striker without making contact with the ball is a straightforward penalty. Didn't you notice how quite the GK was? He never protested because he knew what he did was wrong; if VAR had intervened, it could have resulted in a red card, which is why the Croatian players did not push for it. They were aware that it was a penalty and accepted their fate

All in all, Argentina was better (and smarter) team tonight, no question about it. You can only reach so far without a quality striker, so far us even semifinal is a success. I just hope our team can recover from this loss (Modric was extremely disappointed) and prepate for Saturday and game for the 3rd spot so we can at least repeat the success from 1998.

Modric and Kovasic had a good game , the rest were below average today.

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December 13, 2022, 11:13:58 PM
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and now we will all have to wait and see who will take the other ticket in France vs Morocco.
can't wait for this match to see France slaughter Morocco for more than 1 goal like Argentina did against Croatia earlier, I think many people make predictions for the final later Argentina vs France because France is seeded in the semifinal match later even though there could be a surprise Argentina vs Morocco in the final also not bad, looks like it will, but i hope morocco loses against france because i bet on france
I believe Morocco will take a lesson from what happened to Croatia today.
So basically Argentina let Croatia play in the first 15-20 minutes then it surprised it with a goal then came the second one to destroy Croatia hope, then the third one to end the Croatian dream prematurely.
Morocco will play more defensively and count on counter attack. The problem they have is the presence of Mbappe. They should find a way to stop him and France power will be reduced considerably.
Overall, I am counting on France - Argentina final unless Morocco could lead France to play penalties.

The biggest problem of Crotia is that they left their usual defensive style and tried to posses the ball with Argentina. They seems to have forgotten who Messi is and when I noticed that I saw their downfall coming so quickly. It wasn't long before they conceived twice.
You cannot leave the tactics that brought you this far and begin to experiment another thing.

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December 13, 2022, 11:15:56 PM
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I don't think a 3-0 was all about getting lucky, they played their might to be on the Finals again but I hope they won't fall short this time just like in 2014. They might not be the favorite in this World Cup but they have the chance now and they're just waiting on who will won on another bracket. More chance to practice and to study opponents that they'll up against in the Finals.
The score from the 3-0 win is certainly not something lucky except for the score of 1 goal from a penalty kick, Croatia's performance has decreased in this match and I didn't expect them not to do anything potential to score goals even in the second half they seemed to be playing in the friendly league without thinking about losing 3 goals . Brazil should have deserved to face Argentina in the semi-finals but Brazil was unlucky on penalty kicks.
Croatia didn't anticipate this loss like this. They were initially controlling the middle and gaining control of the football. Argentina's penalty kick goal altered the course of the game.

Unfortunately, Croatia had a difficult time in today's game. They simply lacked the courage to take chances with their shooting, and their entire defense is weak.

In today's game, Croatia displayed a good midfield, a subpar defense, and an ineffective striker. Am just disappointed by how they performed against Argentinian
Croatia got a stalemate on the front lines. although they control the midfield well they are not good enough up front with poor finishing.

Argentina is more favored to win. but beyond my expectations, if this semi-final Argentina will get 3 goals without conceding. Argentina was very successful in making its strategy. revenge for Croatia who also beat Argentina with the same score.



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December 13, 2022, 11:16:23 PM
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I earned my bet in Argentina classification  Cheesy
I thought the match would be harder for Argentina with a great chance to go to extra time, but it was a surprise to me

I'll be honest, Croatia can be the 3rd or 4rd, total merits to the players and coach to extract the maximum of each one, because they got there with a single victory against Canada.
Seriously, they did a remarkable feat with the available team.
In my opinion Japan deserved the victory on round of 16, but this is soccer, this is the magical thing.
I was sure Brazil would win against Croatia, but Argentina did the job better than any other team.
It is true, with the players the coach had made an awesome progress. Croatia being the runner of the previous world cup sits as the underdog in all matches. The team got its rewards, but nothing magical happened in the match against Argentina. The team predicted to win the World Cup have left and the popular ones weren't able to make a goal. In such situation it is good progress from Croatia. This time Japan missed the chance and in the next time I believe few Asian countries to progress to the the semifinals.

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December 13, 2022, 11:19:37 PM
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and now we will all have to wait and see who will take the other ticket in France vs Morocco.
can't wait for this match to see France slaughter Morocco for more than 1 goal like Argentina did against Croatia earlier, I think many people make predictions for the final later Argentina vs France because France is seeded in the semifinal match later even though there could be a surprise Argentina vs Morocco in the final also not bad, looks like it will, but i hope morocco loses against france because i bet on france

I wouldn’t exactly use the word slaughter but yes, I also can’t wait to watch the match between France and Morocco. It would be a very tough game as the Moroccans aren’t a walk over as we’ve seen with their recent games. Though, France is a more better team on paper. France is seen as the likely candidate to win and they’ve got the players as well as the techniques to pull off a win. France is favored to win the World Cup again but would face a worthy contender for the cup, Argentina.
I know I as well as millions of people and fans out there would like to see France vs Argentina clash at the finals of the World Cup. It would be a final to remember!
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December 13, 2022, 11:25:46 PM
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The score from the 3-0 win is certainly not something lucky except for the score of 1 goal from a penalty kick, Croatia's performance has decreased in this match and I didn't expect them not to do anything potential to score goals even in the second half they seemed to be playing in the friendly league without thinking about losing 3 goals . Brazil should have deserved to face Argentina in the semi-finals but Brazil was unlucky on penalty kicks.
But croatia played well against brazil, much different against argentina tonight. Croatian players seem to be losing performance. In the early minutes, Croatia had 54% of the ball, but could not attack. They only played in the back and midfield. Meanwhile, Argentina only took advantage of counterattacks. Messi and Alvarez are quite dangerous for Argentina's front line. Both of them can run fast, making it difficult for Croatian defenders to stop their attacks.
Croatia played well when Argentina haven't scored their first goal, immediately Messi scored the first goal through penalty croatia performance changed and they started playing with pressure to equalize the game. The first goal disorganised Croatia,  this was the reason why it was easy for Argentina to score more goals. Alvarez really tried for Argentina,  if not the two goals he scored for Argentina it would have look as if Argentina won by luck.

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December 13, 2022, 11:27:22 PM
Last edit: December 14, 2022, 10:08:18 AM by Rikafip
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I understand your point of view, but the GK went out for the ball, missed it, and took the man down in the process; how is that not a penalty? Running into a striker without making contact with the ball is a straightforward penalty. Didn't you notice how quite the GK was? He never protested because he knew what he did was wrong; if VAR had intervened, it could have resulted in a red card, which is why the Croatian players did not push for it. They were aware that it was a penalty and accepted their fate
He didn't run into him, he actually stopped just before Alvarez reached him. Anyway, I don't think it would have been the same decision if it wasn't Argentina on the other side.

Regarding players not protesting, I don't know how you missed bunch of our players complaining to the referee and Kovacic even got yellow card because of that.

As I said before, they were better side and our team didn't show much this game but before that penalty they did nothing and if it weren't for that it would have been much closer game.

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December 13, 2022, 11:29:50 PM
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I don't think a 3-0 was all about getting lucky, they played their might to be on the Finals again but I hope they won't fall short this time just like in 2014. They might not be the favorite in this World Cup but they have the chance now and they're just waiting on who will won on another bracket. More chance to practice and to study opponents that they'll up against in the Finals.
The score from the 3-0 win is certainly not something lucky except for the score of 1 goal from a penalty kick, Croatia's performance has decreased in this match and I didn't expect them not to do anything potential to score goals even in the second half they seemed to be playing in the friendly league without thinking about losing 3 goals . Brazil should have deserved to face Argentina in the semi-finals but Brazil was unlucky on penalty kicks.
Croatia didn't anticipate this loss like this. They were initially controlling the middle and gaining control of the football. Argentina's penalty kick goal altered the course of the game.

Unfortunately, Croatia had a difficult time in today's game. They simply lacked the courage to take chances with their shooting, and their entire defense is weak.

In today's game, Croatia displayed a good midfield, a subpar defense, and an ineffective striker. Am just disappointed by how they performed against Argentinian
I am very happy to see Argentina in the final round which just proofed who the Goat his. I am very happy for getting into the final round why Ronaldo his unable to qualify or take his team to the final round. It is not as easy as we think scaling through the final round without been defeated.
This world cup final is going to be very serious because we are getting to the final stage that many persons had been waiting for to see who is going to reach the final level. It is not an easy journey for the Argentina and I hope Messi is going to do another football wonders as

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December 13, 2022, 11:31:40 PM
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and now we will all have to wait and see who will take the other ticket in France vs Morocco.
can't wait for this match to see France slaughter Morocco for more than 1 goal like Argentina did against Croatia earlier, I think many people make predictions for the final later Argentina vs France because France is seeded in the semifinal match later even though there could be a surprise Argentina vs Morocco in the final also not bad, looks like it will, but i hope morocco loses against france because i bet on france
I believe Morocco will take a lesson from what happened to Croatia today.
So basically Argentina let Croatia play in the first 15-20 minutes then it surprised it with a goal then came the second one to destroy Croatia hope, then the third one to end the Croatian dream prematurely.
Morocco will play more defensively and count on counter attack. The problem they have is the presence of Mbappe. They should find a way to stop him and France power will be reduced considerably.
Overall, I am counting on France - Argentina final unless Morocco could lead France to play penalties.
It's true that this should be used as a reference because regardless of anything, even if their current performance has exceeded expectations, they still have to try harder and I feel that the steps taken by Morocco should not follow what Croatia did.
They were overly optimistic by taking the initiative from the start so of course this wasn't great even if Argentina were more restrained.
On the other hand, don't let Morocco do the same scheme tomorrow, especially since we know that France's style of play is always fast, especially on both sides. Don't let them get carried away with the rhythm and have to stay disciplined so they have a little chance.

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December 13, 2022, 11:33:23 PM
Last edit: December 14, 2022, 11:52:04 PM by Rengga Jati
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I earned my bet in Argentina classification  Cheesy
I thought the match would be harder for Argentina with a great chance to go to extra time, but it was a surprise to me
Argentina really did very well in this match. Their first goal through a penalty kick really burned up their spirit to make more goals and win the match. Their first goal really made all players become more confident during the match. Messi was really able to realize it to his whole team players. And, Alvarez was awesome by making 2 goals. All players in all lineups did solid and strong performances. Probably, Argentina has less ball possession, but the way they executed their attack was very effective and accurate. We can see also how many saves were made by their defenders and also their goalkeeper during the match. Martinez always becomes a very strong and consistent goalkeeper. Although he is not the best goalkeeper in the world, although he may be not as good as in the club, during the World Cup, he could really optimize his power.

I believe Morocco will take a lesson from what happened to Croatia today.
Morocco will exactly face a very difficult opponent this time, against France. The pressure is higher, France is the defending champion of the World CUp. We also know how many very talented players of France has. Most of the players in all lines are great players. It will not be easy and will be very tough for Morocco. However, as long as they are able to manage and optimize every chance, as usual, I am sure they can do their best, regardless of the result of the match, I support everything.  Smiley

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December 13, 2022, 11:42:58 PM
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The score from the 3-0 win is certainly not something lucky except for the score of 1 goal from a penalty kick, Croatia's performance has decreased in this match and I didn't expect them not to do anything potential to score goals even in the second half they seemed to be playing in the friendly league without thinking about losing 3 goals . Brazil should have deserved to face Argentina in the semi-finals but Brazil was unlucky on penalty kicks.
But croatia played well against brazil, much different against argentina tonight. Croatian players seem to be losing performance. In the early minutes, Croatia had 54% of the ball, but could not attack. They only played in the back and midfield. Meanwhile, Argentina only took advantage of counterattacks. Messi and Alvarez are quite dangerous for Argentina's front line. Both of them can run fast, making it difficult for Croatian defenders to stop their attacks.
Alvarez is having a very good performance during the match against croatia. I meant look at how fast alvarez to did counter attack against croatia. It seems like that alvarez will be considered as a potential player by another club but that's very sad to say that he was loosing to compete with haaland in the city. that makes him to become haaland's back up. I hope that alvarez will consider move to the new club. That will be far better to him to get more minutes to play in the main squad rather than competing in the city with haaland as he has no chance against haaland. Alvarez's potential can be seen from this match. Im really happy to see that he was making two goals against croatia.

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December 13, 2022, 11:55:53 PM
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I understand your point of view, but the GK went out for the ball, missed it, and took the man down in the process; how is that not a penalty? Running into a striker without making contact with the ball is a straightforward penalty. Didn't you notice how quite the GK was? He never protested because he knew what he did was wrong; if VAR had intervened, it could have resulted in a red card, which is why the Croatian players did not push for it. They were aware that it was a penalty and accepted their fate

The goalkeeper didn't have any contact with ball before he knockdown the argentine player which mean that it was a clear penalty. It would have been a big blunder on the side of the referee if he had failed to give that penalty.

But I think the Croatians defended very badly in that match. After the first goal they became desperate to level up but failed to coverup for a potential Argentina counter attack. The second goal came because of this defensive lapses. The third goal was a result of Messi football prowess. He singlehandedly created that goal scoring opportunity.

My heart goes to the hard-fighting Croatian side. They have suffered so much heartbreak from the world cup because they have always been close to the trophy but never had the opportunity to win it. Its time for Luka Modrić to retire as a hero because he has contributed immensely to the development of his country's football.

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December 14, 2022, 12:04:24 AM
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Croatia from the beginning had the attacking plan and the same didn't work as Argentina took the defending position and doesn't show agression. They did it well and the plan didn't work with Croatia. Maybe if Croatia have managed to make a goal at the first half the match would've taken another direction.
Croatia did a great job by having almost 70% ball possession and they have 7 on goals also because Argentina's defense is very tight so the attacker is not effective to create a chance of goals. We do not doubt Croatia's struggle is pretty great but Argentina's player is better at struggle, especially Julian Alvarez who create 2 scores, but the man of standing is still Lionel Messi.

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I understand your point of view, but the GK went out for the ball, missed it, and took the man down in the process; how is that not a penalty? Running into a striker without making contact with the ball is a straightforward penalty. Didn't you notice how quite the GK was? He never protested because he knew what he did was wrong; if VAR had intervened, it could have resulted in a red card, which is why the Croatian players did not push for it. They were aware that it was a penalty and accepted their fate
He didn't run into him, he actually stopped just before Alvarez reached him. Anyway, I don't think it would have been the same decision if it wasn't Argentina on the other side.
Alvarez was almost certainly going to score, and the fact that the GK obstructed his movement after he flicked the ball past him is a foul. I don't blame the goalkeeper; he did what anyone could have done. I'm not sure Croatia had more than two shots on goal prior to that goal, they were already looking lost prior to that goal, and I'm not sure the goal had much of an impact on the game. Croatia's defense was not strong enough today, and they were fortunate to concede only three goals.

Regarding players not protesting, I don't know how you missed bunch of our players complaining to the referee and Kovacic even got yellow card because of that.
Kovasic overrated and im sure he said some funny thing to the ref.  Grin

As I said before, they were better and our team didn't show much this game but before that penalty they did nothing and if it weren't for that it would have been much closer game.
They did nothing for 15 minutes, Croatia's dominance lasted less than 20 minutes; I guess their plan was to score early and then sit back, but it didn't work. And, as I mentioned earlier, they had another good run, becoming the best European team after France in two consecutive World Cups, something to be proud of. Your country performed admirably, but the best team won tonight.

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Congratulations dear team Argentina.  Because Argentina made it to the final with a hundred tries.  However, Croatia could not make it to the final despite trying hard here.  Argentina lost 3-0 in 2018 but this time too Croatia lost by the same score.  However, there are some great players in Croatia's team, who have far more talent than Argentina's team.  However, Croatia also lost to France in 2018 and again in 2022 and lost to Argentina, but their foreheads are very miserable.
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December 14, 2022, 12:40:47 AM
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Croatia did a great job by having almost 70% ball possession and they have 7 on goals also because Argentina's defense is very tight so the attacker is not effective to create a chance of goals.

70% huh, well actually it was 61% and it means nothing when they lost. It was also 12 shots on goals against Argentina which was 1 shots higher than Argentina but it seems they couldnt recreate their amazing run back in 2018 World Cup.

Personally think that it would be Argentina against France on final but I would love to watch Morocco win the game though. Im not gonna lie but if Morocco win against France tonight then they deserved to win the World Cup as well

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It is true, with the players the coach had made an awesome progress. Croatia being the runner of the previous world cup sits as the underdog in all matches. The team got its rewards, but nothing magical happened in the match against Argentina. The team predicted to win the World Cup have left and the popular ones weren't able to make a goal. In such situation it is good progress from Croatia. This time Japan missed the chance and in the next time I believe few Asian countries to progress to the the semifinals.

About the magical thing of soccer I was talking about Japan vs Croatia, not the Argentina's match.
In my opinion Japan played better and deserved the classification more than Croatia.

Japan was more enthusiastic, they classified in 1st place in a group where Germany and Spain were the huge favorites. Japan was looking for victory, but as I said, soccer things.
How can you explain a team like Brazil losing the classification to Croatia?

The coach Zlatko Dalić did a pretty good job with the team available, maybe 1 young player and 1 good atacker could lead Croatia to finals.



For tomorrow's game I'm waiting to a victory of France and more than 2,5 goals, let's see if I'm lucky again  Cheesy





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Congratulations dear team Argentina.  Because Argentina made it to the final with a hundred tries.  However, Croatia could not make it to the final despite trying hard here.  Argentina lost 3-0 in 2018 but this time too Croatia lost by the same score.  However, there are some great players in Croatia's team, who have far more talent than Argentina's team.  However, Croatia also lost to France in 2018 and again in 2022 and lost to Argentina, but their foreheads are very miserable.

Argentina won the game against Croatia for very strong and evident reasons: First, they have Lionel Messi who is simply brilliant, an undisputed leader and who puts on a show in every match; Julián Álvarez, the great revelation of Argentine football who is still a "newbie" but who plays like a veteran; Enzo Fernández, who is capable of carrying out quite difficult missions, and one of them was to stop Luka Modric who is 16 years older than him.

And last, there is the wise choice of coach Lionel Scaloni, who has the talent to change the team according to his opponents and adversity in each match.
Scaloni had tested three different tactical formations and today he opted for something more "conservative", with the addition of another midfielder: instead of returning with Di María on the left wing, he used Rodrigo Paredes and, with that, neutralized the strongest sector from Croatia. A masterstroke that worked very well.

I'm Brazilian, Argentina's archenemy, but I recognize... they played very well. Congratulations Argentina

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December 14, 2022, 12:51:54 AM
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Croatia did a great job by having almost 70% ball possession and they have 7 on goals also because Argentina's defense is very tight so the attacker is not effective to create a chance of goals.

70% huh, well actually it was 61% and it means nothing when they lost. It was also 12 shots on goals against Argentina which was 1 shots higher than Argentina but it seems they couldnt recreate their amazing run back in 2018 World Cup.

Personally think that it would be Argentina against France on final but I would love to watch Morocco win the game though. Im not gonna lie but if Morocco win against France tonight then they deserved to win the World Cup as well

Lol exactly, you can have 80% of ball possession but if you don't win the match, it doesn't really matter. Personally, I was not really impressed by Croatia today, Argentina deserved the win and in the end it was pretty easy in fact. France vs Morocco will be interesting but if the logic get respected we will get a final between France and Argentina.



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