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Question: Which of the team do you think will win the Final
Argentina - 55 (69.6%)
France - 24 (30.4%)
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December 16, 2022, 10:54:28 PM
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Many people want Messi to win the World Cup, but only Ronaldo's fans oppose him because of the dispute between them and Messi supporters.

Messi has represented his team very well throughout his career, and because this is his last World Cup due to his age, and I believe he will soon announce his retirement from the National team, I wanted him to win because he deserved to win.

Messi deserves to win this World Cup, he is a phenomenon and I think he has proved it several times, but not only is he also very humble compared to Ronaldo and other more popular footballers.  Mbappe is still young and can still compete for a world cup.  I think this is Messi's year and I really hope he succeeds.
From the performance of Argentina and France, i only debating and also predicting in me the team that can win the cup, but looking at the Argentina, it seems that messi is curious and desperate to win this world cup because is retiring from my views, and secondly it will be a great or forgettable history to messi, so forget the age of messi and look at the football knowledge or styles acquired, mbappe is a young Star who is coming up, so when you look at the France team they are made of young players.
I doubt the messi desire to lift the world cup trophy could be a real motivation , it could be a boomerang for him as he had an ambition and it turns into a weak point for argentina as a whole , the final is about 50/50 chance , everyone know that.

But if i had to pick an extraordinary result in this unpredictable worldcup edition , i'd say 4-0 for france to win it back to back.
The last comment is contradictory to understand, but the measure I'm considering the match, it seems like something that will end with draw and they will play penalty, because France will not allow Argentina to defeat them because of mbappe, because when looking at France players it seems that all are younger players and are ready to left the cup, why Argentina messi is desperate to left the cup because of it's age difference and retirement, so that it's football record will be different from others.
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December 16, 2022, 10:56:01 PM
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Deschamps said that they had plans for Messi in the final game. It isn't surprising to hear about of course because they really need to create a solution to the big Messi threat now. van Gaal was also very confident about stopping Messi but we saw what happened at the end. Messi's attitude against him after the game was really firm.

However France are nothing alike Netherlands of course. They are a much stronger team so Messi should be ready for his biggest challenge in the World Cup.

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December 16, 2022, 10:57:01 PM
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I doubt the messi desire to lift the world cup trophy could be a real motivation , it could be a boomerang for him as he had an ambition and it turns into a weak point for argentina as a whole , the final is about 50/50 chance , everyone know that.

But if i had to pick an extraordinary result in this unpredictable worldcup edition , i'd say 4-0 for france to win it back to back.
As you said, the odds are 50:50 so it's still not certain, as for the question of doubt, I think it's each individual's perspective because in this case I also feel sure that there will be people who doubt France and actually this doesn't make any changes because this is my personal opinion. What is clear is that if they really want to win and lift the trophy they have to make a win in this last game and that is a fact because they have to work even harder.

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December 16, 2022, 10:57:53 PM
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Mpappe is in better form to lift the trophy this season and Messi will have to retire without the record he wants to create if he fails to win the Sunday finals, Argentina is not an easy country to win since Argentian also have a world cup experience just like France do.
The battle is between two giants and the result is highly unpredictable anyone betting on both clubs should also rely more on luck.

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December 16, 2022, 10:59:50 PM
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It will be so nice if Messi wins the world cup, definitely a dream come through for the player and the entire Argentine team and coaching crew. The Messi fans will certainly gain their bragging rights against the fans of Ronaldo too, this might settle the debate of who’s the greatest of all time. The 18th of December will be a thrilling experience when Argentina face France in the world cup final and I am expecting an outstanding performance from both teams.
Many people want Messi to win the World Cup, but only Ronaldo's fans oppose him because of the dispute between them and Messi supporters.

Messi has represented his team very well throughout his career, and because this is his last World Cup due to his age, and I believe he will soon announce his retirement from the National team, I wanted him to win because he deserved to win.
I would want Messi to win the World Cup since this will be his last World cup and Argentina has done very well to reach the finals.  Argentina deserves to win the World Cup.  Argentina and Portugal are my best team in the world cup but since Portugal couldn't reach the finals I'm giving my support to Argentina to win , this is the last chance Messi has and he is close in achieving the world cup let him go ahead and win it . If Ronaldo is opportune to get this point I would have supported him.
Majority have their favourites as Argentina and Portugal. This is common, for Messi they support Argentina and for Ronaldo they support Portugal. This time Messi will lift the trophy. France is quite strong and they reached the finals without making much noise. At the beginning of the tournament we could see people predicting Germany, Brazil, and other teams to win the World Cup. Very few predicted it to be a win for France. Lets see what's gonna happen in the finals.

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December 16, 2022, 11:04:34 PM
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Messi deserves to win this World Cup, he is a phenomenon and I think he has proved it several times, but not only is he also very humble compared to Ronaldo and other more popular footballers.  Mbappe is still young and can still compete for a world cup.  I think this is Messi's year and I really hope he succeeds.
He has brought argentina till final with hardwork and he deserves the trophy. France already won last world cup and i think france gonna make a new record once france will able to win the current world cup again. Mbappe itself will not let this golden opportunity to be gone. He was still young but getting world cup title will be a very good thing for him. He must compete with his friend in the PSG which will make him try hard against argentina. The final will begin very soon.
There will be no reason for argentina and france to budge in the final. The competitive match must be served to the whole of viewers in the world

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December 16, 2022, 11:15:22 PM
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Even before the World Cup started I had four favorites to win this championship: Spain, Argentina, Brazil and France, two of them have been confirmed so far for the grand final, so my bet wasn't that bad.

Now, I believe Argentina will win the final, as despite suffering a shock defeat to Saudi Arabia on their debut, the Argentines have grown throughout the competition and, under Messi's tutelage, favorites to win the best player award of the Cup, reach this final very strong.
In the last two games, especially against Croatia, Argentina showed a much better performance than France against England and Morocco. France achieved good results, but did not perform as well as Argentina.

But, I'm not going to discredit France, they had a very solid and risk-free campaign. Mbappé, Giroud and Griezmann have a very high level of play and I'm sure they will make Argentina's work very difficult this Sunday.

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December 16, 2022, 11:19:22 PM
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Many people want Messi to win the World Cup, but only Ronaldo's fans oppose him because of the dispute between them and Messi supporters.

Messi has represented his team very well throughout his career, and because this is his last World Cup due to his age, and I believe he will soon announce his retirement from the National team, I wanted him to win because he deserved to win.
I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.

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December 16, 2022, 11:36:09 PM
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I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.

Messi is one of the all time greats and I am sure many people would love to see Argentina win it but I still think France will take the worldcup home again. They have such a good team and made the best overall impression this worldcup.



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December 16, 2022, 11:39:37 PM
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Messi is one of the all time greats and I am sure many people would love to see Argentina win it but I still think France will take the worldcup home again. They have such a good team and made the best overall impression this worldcup.
France is favourite and Argentina wants this World Cup so much after not getting it for a long period. Both teams will play furiously but Messi might be the most challenging since he wants this trophy so much. It is the best reward that every player would get before leaving his national team.

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December 16, 2022, 11:41:15 PM
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Many people want Messi to win the World Cup, but only Ronaldo's fans oppose him because of the dispute between them and Messi supporters.

Messi has represented his team very well throughout his career, and because this is his last World Cup due to his age, and I believe he will soon announce his retirement from the National team, I wanted him to win because he deserved to win.
I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.

Even with his growing age, Messi is still a star and a much better player than many young players in football. Experience do matter here in football too.



Well, there is more discussion of the final match between Argentina and France, but before that, we will have a 3rd position match between Morroco and Croatia. Though this match is not between any traditional giant teams but since Morroco is playing this match, it actually becomes an historic event as this is first time any African nation will be competing for the 3rd position in a FIFA world cup.

Also if they are able to win and get this place, it will be even good for African and Asian football. I am supporting Morroco as African nations also deserve these positions in FIFA considering they have been playing for a long now without contributing anything substantial in the world cup.


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December 16, 2022, 11:56:15 PM
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I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.
Messi has a high expectation for winning this world cup. Besides for the shake of his country, he also has his own expectation for himself, as you said, it can be a very valuable gift for him to win the thropy for probably his last world cup. But on the other hand, the pressure is also very high for him. He seems like being the main focus of Argentina and everyone will also focus more on him. How he plays and perfoms and how he can achieve the result will be really a high focus for this world.

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December 16, 2022, 11:59:29 PM
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Why are you making it seem like it's about Messi when he wants Agerntina to win? Don't tell me you're one of those teenagers accusing FIFA of rigging games on Twitter because a particular player is having the best tournament of his career. Given that France has one of the weakest defenses in the competition, I believe that France would have long since lost if England and Morocco had taken their chances. The only reason France is in the championship game is because they converted all of their chances to score goals, despite being outplayed in both games. Argentina is the only team without a weak point; they have been reliable in every way, outplayed their opponents, and easily won every game.
I never state anything about 'accusing FIFA of rigging games'. You accuse me without strong proof.  Roll Eyes

If CryptocurencyKing is your friend, I am so sorry if I am asking a hard question for him.

Anyway, are you sure about your claim that France has the weakest defense? If they have a bad defense, they won't reach the final. lol
So far, France and Argentina have the same conceded goals, they have 5 conceded goals. It means both have the same quality if we consider the defense strength.

Regarding Argentina, how can you think they have no weak points? Do you forget they are ever defeated by Saudi Arabia?  Huh
Saudi Arabia is a weak team, if Argentina could be defeated by a weak team means they have a weak point. I know you will say it is a coincidence. But Argentina lose is real, so they have a weak point is real too.



Sorry, but I think your comment reflects you as an argentine fanatic fan. Please don't take in to heart if many people support France. Other people laso have their right to support any team and to claim any team is better.


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December 16, 2022, 11:59:44 PM
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I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.
Let's not forget that Messi will not be in an airless space and he will be opposed by a fairly powerful team, the reigning world champion and, perhaps, something inferior to Messi in terms of individuality and merit, but at least still stronger as a team.
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France is favourite and Argentina wants this World Cup so much after not getting it for a long period. Both teams will play furiously but Messi might be the most challenging since he wants this trophy so much. It is the best reward that every player would get before leaving his national team.
Many people expect to Messi get the world cup trophy for 1st time, but still, we don't have much expect to Messi will get it because France has filled up the best player than Argentina, France has better from the back, center, and front, while Argentina just hopes to 1 person Messi, so I believe it will not happen again for Messi, He will get the same as Ronaldo have, the looser.

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Really? I just found out about this, it's possible that Raphael Varane and Ibrahim Konate won't be able to strengthen France in the final match later. I think this happened so suddenly, even though during the semifinal match against Morocco Raphael Varane was still healthy as usual. Rabiot and Upamecano are important players besides Raphael Varane, I hope they get treated soon and can recover before the final match against Argentina later.
I have been hearing about this issue since yesterday, but at that time there was no confirmation on how many players had the virus. I don't know, it's bad about France but I really have doubts about how many players will miss the final. Things can change when the medical team is able to make a recovery effort, but of course missing a few players because of this problem will benefit the Argentinian side.

Whatever it is I wish the best for the French squad. I'm expecting a really great final in a few days although some players will be out due to illness. If France has it, then what's the bad news about Argentina?
I also hope that in this final match all the players are fit, but in reality this will slightly reduce the performance of the French players. On the other hand, with an incident like this, Argentina can breathe a little easier if France is not strengthened by a starter like Raphael Varane, of course Lionel Messi and friends will put this to good use. For Argentina there seems to be no bad news so far, they will still appear at full strength against France.

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December 17, 2022, 12:16:49 AM
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finally here we are!
Saturday we would have the final verdict.
I always thought the final would be France vs Argentina, if I had to make a bet on the winner? I would definitely bet on Argentina! It's true that France are the reigning champions, but honestly I don't see them as strong as they were four years ago! Messi has the great opportunity to raise the only trophy missing from his showcase to the sky, and it will be his last chance! I think he will do everything to win it

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December 17, 2022, 02:20:12 AM
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I think the key motivation for Argentina to win this World Cup is going to be Lionel Messi. The players in the Argentina squad are very motivated. They probably look at Lionel Messi and say that we have to play well for that guy. That is the biggest motivation for Argentina right now. I hope that they have a comprehensive plan heading into the final because it is not going to be easy to play against a squad such as France. The France squad is absolutely stacked with world-class players.

But honestly, I think Argentina has a good chance. For Argentina to win the World Cup, Lionel Messi will have to play very well. Probably better than what he did against Croatia. If this is the Argentina squad of 2018, I would have predicted that this is going to be a one-sided match and France is going to win. But this time Argentina looks strong.
So what happens if Lionel Messi gets Injured, gets double booking, Mmmhh ?! I honestly think they should come correct as a team and not for Lionel Messi to win the game for them alone, that will be the biggest flaw in that game over reliant on Messi to deliver them.
France are already looking for a way keep him silent in that Tchouameni can not do it alone, he would need Griezman dropping to support him.

Both Kylian Mbappe and Ousman Dembele should be very precise when attacking, taking good chances of the opportunity they have early enough will seal the game for France. It won't be an easy night I know lol.

I said that Lionel Messi is going to be the inspiration of the Argentinian squad. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the Argentina squad is going to be nothing without Lionel Messi.

In a war, if the captain dies or gets injured, it doesn’t necessarily mean the war is already lost. It is a position of disadvantage from which they have to rise up and keep fighting. It’s the same principle. If Lionel Messi does get red-carded or injured, it is not going to mean the end of the match. The Argentina squad is very capable.

Is it going to be a big disadvantage? Yes. But they will have to find a way to adapt and overcome.


The single card shown to Boufal during the Semi finals against France was biased, FIFA didn't look into that game well, the officials and VAR are damn biased.

No, I am not going to get into the conversation of if FIFA is biased or not. I think we are all grown-ups and we have a good enough knowledge about that.

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December 17, 2022, 02:32:25 AM
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I'm sure Messi will give his best contribution because remember that this is his last fight for Messi because of his old age so it's impossible for Messi to play normally because I'm sure Messi will show his true skills which are highly respected by many people so that it will bring Argentina to victory in this match.
Let's not forget that Messi will not be in an airless space and he will be opposed by a fairly powerful team, the reigning world champion and, perhaps, something inferior to Messi in terms of individuality and merit, but at least still stronger as a team.

Everyone saying alot here but all of this would be better on Sunday
France defender has been rumoured to be sick Varane
I still think he might not be set for the finals

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December 17, 2022, 02:35:54 AM
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Have bad news for France national team one day before final match begin after confirming several main player was sick, reported from sportingnews.com after missing Adrien Rabiot and Dayot Upamecano in starting eleven when France beaten Morocco today have confirmed with Raphael Varane, Ibrahima Konate and Kingsley Coman are player potential absent in final match.

I don't sure with France opportunity can win World Cup trophy if several their main player have absent, still have one day later and several main player can return to their illness and include in starting eleven against Argentina.

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