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November 23, 2022, 08:11:53 AM
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This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
You are not wrong, Argentina was the hope of everyone, it was a good day for gambling sites as people were not happy when Saudi Arabia won, but such disappointment is in football. World cup is usually won by European or South American countries, Saudi Arabia won Argentina, but my stance still remain that Africa, Asia or other country from other continent than Europe or South American will not still win this year, this is still even just the group stage.
I don't understand what you meant by Argentina was the hope of everyone have you ever seen anyone that predicted that Argentina will win the World Cup or have you seen anyone that predicted that Portugal will win the World Cup ?the prediction has always been Brazil then some people believe that the defending champions France can be able to defend their trophy other people are suggesting England to compete and get to the final and eventually become the Champions some other person's predicted Belgium. I have never seen anybody that believe so much in Argentina, argentina's team of this year is not what it used to be even when I saw the lineup I was not impressed

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November 23, 2022, 08:16:56 AM
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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home

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November 23, 2022, 08:19:04 AM
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The Saudis had a good skill level, both goals show that, but most importantly I would say that the Saudi coach won the match. The defense offside trap was just brutal against Argentina. It could have easily ended 4 - 0 for Argentina if the Saudi coach was playing in a more standard way.

It was pure stupidity from Argentines. They have some of the most experienced players in the world, and still they fell in to this offside trap. It could have easily backfired on the Saudis, but their opponents were unable to make use of it. If I am not wrong, the odds for the Saudis were something in the vicinity of 21.00-22.00. Those who made a bet on them got a fortune yesterday. I didn't placed a bet, but would have never gone with a Saudi win. At the most, I would have placed a bet for draw. A win for Saudi looked just impossible.
It was not a stupidity but Argentina did not notice it on time because there eager to score. And nobody thought that Saudi Arabia would win that match. I don't even think people betted against Argentina yesterday. And all those people that have bet for Argentina to win the match has lost their money. Argentina really lost gamblers money yesterday. But their second match might be different but I don't think people will still massively bet for them again.

Argentina really disappointed it's fans yesterday.
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November 23, 2022, 08:20:30 AM
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Argentina underestimated this Saudi Arabia team and now they’re without a point in the group they thought was an easy run. But again, failing to win your opening World Cup game does not necessarily doom a nation where its chances of becoming champion are concerned. Argentina face Mexico on Saturday in a must-win game if they want to progress from the group, followed by Poland. I expect from their coach is that, he should address some glaring errors that were committed against the Saudis. Assuming they can do that, this is still most definitely a team that can become champions.

Mexico was much stronger than Poland, it will not be an exaggeration if I say that Poland could not show anything in this match. They only had one shot on target Mexico, and it was a penalty that Lewandowski couldn't score. And if Lewandowski had scored this goal, it would probably have been an undeserved victory. Perhaps Argentina can beat Poland, but whether they can score points with Mexico I'm not sure.

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November 23, 2022, 08:22:45 AM
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Croatia is definitely the favorite today, they play phenomenal football, were excellent in the League of Nations and showed that they are ready for the World Cup. I would not underestimate Morocco, they are also undefeated in the last 5 games, but now they will have to play against much stronger teams and if they want something more, they will have to make a lot of effort.

I played for Croatia to win & both teams to score at x4.9. I think it's possible to see 1:2 or 1:3... not even bad to try to bet on the correct score.

Yes, of course Croatia will be the favorite in this match. I wouldn't even hesitate to bet on Croatia. I predict both teams will be active in an attacking strategy. so that the score could be more than 1 goal. Luka Modric and his friends are also in very good condition. But Morocco also cannot be underestimated because they also have good players like Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech. But I believe that the experience of Luka Modric and some of the senior Croatian players will be very helpful in this game.

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November 23, 2022, 08:53:08 AM
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Croatia is definitely the favorite today, they play phenomenal football, were excellent in the League of Nations and showed that they are ready for the World Cup. I would not underestimate Morocco, they are also undefeated in the last 5 games, but now they will have to play against much stronger teams and if they want something more, they will have to make a lot of effort.

I played for Croatia to win & both teams to score at x4.9. I think it's possible to see 1:2 or 1:3... not even bad to try to bet on the correct score.

Yes, of course Croatia will be the favorite in this match. I wouldn't even hesitate to bet on Croatia. I predict both teams will be active in an attacking strategy. so that the score could be more than 1 goal. Luka Modric and his friends are also in very good condition. But Morocco also cannot be underestimated because they also have good players like Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech. But I believe that the experience of Luka Modric and some of the senior Croatian players will be very helpful in this game.

Yes , I'm on the same page with you guys. I think this game will have no surprises and Croatia will most likely score in first half as well. If Modric has a great day , he will do 2 assist and 1 goal before half-time break and I'm thinking to place a bet on him with scoring and assisting during the game.

Then, I'm patiently waiting to see Mannschaft and their goal scoring machine as I don't see Japan having a chance against them. Grin

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November 23, 2022, 08:54:18 AM
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This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
You are not wrong, Argentina was the hope of everyone, it was a good day for gambling sites as people were not happy when Saudi Arabia won, but such disappointment is in football. World cup is usually won by European or South American countries, Saudi Arabia won Argentina, but my stance still remain that Africa, Asia or other country from other continent than Europe or South American will not still win this year, this is still even just the group stage.
I don't understand what you meant by Argentina was the hope of everyone have you ever seen anyone that predicted that Argentina will win the World Cup or have you seen anyone that predicted that Portugal will win the World Cup ?the prediction has always been Brazil then some people believe that the defending champions France can be able to defend their trophy other people are suggesting England to compete and get to the final and eventually become the Champions some other person's predicted Belgium. I have never seen anybody that believe so much in Argentina, argentina's team of this year is not what it used to be even when I saw the lineup I was not impressed

Saying Argentina are not favourite is not true. This is a team that has gone 36 matches unbeaten. They won Brazil among those 36 teams to become the champions of South America. They won the winners of the Euro (Italy).

Two or three changes against Saudi Arabia is the difference from their starting and winning 11. So saying people did not predict Argentina to win the world cup is not true and also saying this Argentine team is not what it used to be is not also true because this is the best and most balanced Argentine team they've had in years.

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November 23, 2022, 08:55:07 AM
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Croatia is definitely the favorite today, they play phenomenal football, were excellent in the League of Nations and showed that they are ready for the World Cup. I would not underestimate Morocco, they are also undefeated in the last 5 games, but now they will have to play against much stronger teams and if they want something more, they will have to make a lot of effort.

I played for Croatia to win & both teams to score at x4.9. I think it's possible to see 1:2 or 1:3... not even bad to try to bet on the correct score.

Yes, of course Croatia will be the favorite in this match. I wouldn't even hesitate to bet on Croatia. I predict both teams will be active in an attacking strategy. so that the score could be more than 1 goal. Luka Modric and his friends are also in very good condition. But Morocco also cannot be underestimated because they also have good players like Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech. But I believe that the experience of Luka Modric and some of the senior Croatian players will be very helpful in this game.

Yes , I'm on the same page with you guys. I think this game will have no surprises and Croatia will most likely score in first half as well. If Modric has a great day , he will do 2 assist and 1 goal before half-time break and I'm thinking to place a bet on him with scoring and assisting during the game.

Then, I'm patiently waiting to see Mannschaft and their goal scoring machine as I don't see Japan having a chance against them. Grin

I'm definitely not underestimating Morocco because they are one of the best African teams. But Croatia's quality should be the key to success for them. As a Croatian, I hope for an easy win but I know that Croatia is known to make things complicated Smiley

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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home
I think now Argentina has to work harder to face Poland and Mexico in the next match, the Argentina coach has to change the player's strategy and how to play better than yesterday, the weak defense made Argentina concede 2 goals by Saudi Arabia and that will be history as well as a lesson so that not to be repeated in the next match, today is no less interesting than the match that will take place
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November 23, 2022, 10:01:33 AM
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Yes , I'm on the same page with you guys. I think this game will have no surprises and Croatia will most likely score in first half as well. If Modric has a great day , he will do 2 assist and 1 goal before half-time break and I'm thinking to place a bet on him with scoring and assisting during the game.

Then, I'm patiently waiting to see Mannschaft and their goal scoring machine as I don't see Japan having a chance against them. Grin
We might assume that Croatia is a stronger team, but you can't deny that Morocco can do more than that. For me, the definite surprise is again tonight and maybe Morocco has more dreams than Croatia to win it this bet is certainly very interesting if Morocco wins it has a good chance while Croatia @ 2.28 is quite big too and not too small but my heart is small that Luka Modrid can win this match even though I will never underestimate Morocco.
But I have to decide about the odds, it's very dynamic, but I have to choose Croatia as a bet, but I hope that nothing will be a surprise and Croatia can win for this World Cup.

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November 23, 2022, 10:15:18 AM
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that's what I once mentioned that the world cup always has surprises in this match everyone is betting on argentina but right now it lost to saudi arabia 1 - 2, as you said many bets failed because this match looks like the people holding saudi arabia will benefit big with big odds, no one would have thought but the match was not over yet it was possible for Argentina to score another goal and draw  Wink
The result of the Argentina vs Saudi Arabia match really surprised many parties and you are right that football always brings surprises and one of the surprises of football in the 2022 World Cup tournament is that Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia which is considered the unseeded team in Group C. I just want to say that Saudi Arabia got lucky.

Now I'm in front of the television screen watching the first match of Group F between Morocco vs Croatia. What do you think. 15 minutes of the game running. The game stats are still just as strong. Weather conditions are a little hot at Al Bayt Stadium, Al-Khor.

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November 23, 2022, 10:15:25 AM
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Great match between Saudi Arabia team and Argentina Teams. Both Teams played well and every player of the team show good performance. But one team will be win. Final Saudi Arabia won the match by 1-2 against Team Argentina. Congratulations Team Saudi Arabia.Hopefully Saudi Arabia team will be play well in next matches and also Argentina Team.

Well your post makes it sound like this was a totally normal game with a totally normal result but in reality this was probably one of the biggest surprises in the whole history of the world cup of football. Argentina is (or was?) one of the favorites to win the title as they usually always are and Saudi Arabia is probably the weakest team of them all together with Qatar. So to see a win of Saudi Arabia was really totally unexpected as even a draw would already have been a huge sensation.
Of course Argentina was also very unlucky because they scored 3 goals that did not count because of offside in the first half alone. Still they should have played better and won this match.
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November 23, 2022, 10:15:43 AM
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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home
I think now Argentina has to work harder to face Poland and Mexico in the next match, the Argentina coach has to change the player's strategy and how to play better than yesterday, the weak defense made Argentina concede 2 goals by Saudi Arabia and that will be history as well as a lesson so that not to be repeated in the next match, today is no less interesting than the match that will take place
Morocco vs Croatia
Germany vs Japan
I really wonder what kind of game planning the Argentinian coach actually did for yesterday's match. I always saw Messi playing from the bottom, which I didn't think was good. If they played the game planning of the previous matches, they might have won easily. But Argentina is in a good danger after losing this match. If they don't win the next two matches, everyone's hopes are over in the first round.

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November 23, 2022, 10:16:04 AM
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It was not a stupidity but Argentina did not notice it on time because there eager to score. And nobody thought that Saudi Arabia would win that match. I don't even think people betted against Argentina yesterday. And all those people that have bet for Argentina to win the match has lost their money. Argentina really lost gamblers money yesterday. But their second match might be different but I don't think people will still massively bet for them again.

Argentina really disappointed it's fans yesterday.
I know with Argentina fans most disappointed after beating by Saudi Arabia, actually not have any excited games show by Argentina player because every time often stuck in offside position, VAR give more difficult thing actually for Argentina after three goals disallowed just left few space ahead from Saudi Arabia defender. Still not close yet opportunity with Argentina qualify to next round if win at 2 matches left against with Mexico and Poland.

But Argentina have waiting and prefer with other match between Saudi Arabia vs Poland on next match have draw or Saudi Arabia win to make compete at second standing position. I think bad ideas when Argentina have eliminated early from World Cup because many people predicting and have bigger hope with Lionel Messi can win first World Cup in his career.

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November 23, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home
I think now Argentina has to work harder to face Poland and Mexico in the next match, the Argentina coach has to change the player's strategy and how to play better than yesterday, the weak defense made Argentina concede 2 goals by Saudi Arabia and that will be history as well as a lesson so that not to be repeated in the next match, today is no less interesting than the match that will take place
Morocco vs Croatia
Germany vs Japan
I really wonder what kind of game planning the Argentinian coach actually did for yesterday's match. I always saw Messi playing from the bottom, which I didn't think was good. If they played the game planning of the previous matches, they might have won easily. But Argentina is in a good danger after losing this match. If they don't win the next two matches, everyone's hopes are over in the first round.

The defeat against Saudi Arabia was an accident. There is no way to say that Argentina played badly in this match. Argentina played very well. But unfortunately they were defeated. They attacked a lot, tried to score. But due to the outstanding performance of Saudi Arabia's defenders and goalkeepers, Argentina were defeated.
But I agree with you that Argentina had some strategic problems. They don't use Messi properly. If Argentina wants to qualify for the next round, they will need to be more tactical and certainly, the defenders will need to play well. Argentina's defense looks as weak as it did in previous World Cups.

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November 23, 2022, 10:44:11 AM
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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home
I think now Argentina has to work harder to face Poland and Mexico in the next match, the Argentina coach has to change the player's strategy and how to play better than yesterday, the weak defense made Argentina concede 2 goals by Saudi Arabia and that will be history as well as a lesson so that not to be repeated in the next match, today is no less interesting than the match that will take place
Morocco vs Croatia
Germany vs Japan
I really wonder what kind of game planning the Argentinian coach actually did for yesterday's match. I always saw Messi playing from the bottom, which I didn't think was good. If they played the game planning of the previous matches, they might have won easily. But Argentina is in a good danger after losing this match. If they don't win the next two matches, everyone's hopes are over in the first round.
Not only that. Mexico and Poland's wins in yesterday's match have created a bigger problem for Argentina. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia won while the other two teams shared the points. That means, Argentina is at the lowest position in the group at this time. Which is negative for them. Their loss in the last match was mainly due to their offside. It might have been good for them if they had been cautious after the first off side. They give the more importance or attention at the last moment of the game last day which should be given at the beginning.

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November 23, 2022, 10:47:49 AM
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I really wonder what kind of game planning the Argentinian coach actually did for yesterday's match. I always saw Messi playing from the bottom, which I didn't think was good. If they played the game planning of the previous matches, they might have won easily. But Argentina is in a good danger after losing this match. If they don't win the next two matches, everyone's hopes are over in the first round.
Where do you mean from the previous match?
Actually there is nothing wrong with Argentina's match against Saudi Arabia. It's just that Argentina is not so lucky because its players are very often caught offside when they want to go in to score goals. That is why there were several goals from Argentina that were disallowed by the referee for offside violations, so in general there was nothing wrong with the game played by Argentina even though Messi himself also often came down to help the back line.
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November 23, 2022, 10:49:09 AM
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This is what we thought before the match started no country from Asia will be able to beat Argentina but the fact Argentina was defeated
Moments like this often occur in several top tournaments one of the most memorable moments was at Euro 2004 Greece won the Euro Cup
So we can't predict which country will win in this world cup especially after Saudi Arabia proved it.
You are not wrong, Argentina was the hope of everyone, it was a good day for gambling sites as people were not happy when Saudi Arabia won, but such disappointment is in football. World cup is usually won by European or South American countries, Saudi Arabia won Argentina, but my stance still remain that Africa, Asia or other country from other continent than Europe or South American will not still win this year, this is still even just the group stage.
I don't understand what you meant by Argentina was the hope of everyone have you ever seen anyone that predicted that Argentina will win the World Cup or have you seen anyone that predicted that Portugal will win the World Cup ?the prediction has always been Brazil then some people believe that the defending champions France can be able to defend their trophy other people are suggesting England to compete and get to the final and eventually become the Champions some other person's predicted Belgium. I have never seen anybody that believe so much in Argentina, argentina's team of this year is not what it used to be even when I saw the lineup I was not impressed

Argentina was one of the best teams on paper and many do believe that Argentina could lift the cup but the problem with them is that they have players which are somewhat bit aged and they are unable to keep up with the young legs. The same we saw in their match against Saudi Arab.

Anyways , that match was a biggest defeat for them but still their hope for the world cup is not over yet. They need to win the next two matches and can still qualify for the round of 16.

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November 23, 2022, 10:51:10 AM
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The coach from Argentina is crazy, why the hell didn't he play with Dybala + messi + Lautaro Martínez? If he had done that, the result would certainly have been favorable to Argentina, but with this defeat,
I am sure the Argentine coach was crazy because he can't change the game plan when Saudi defence lineup do offside trap again and again I think Argentine striker goes offside more that 6 time , if they didn't they we will see the results like 4 to 5 goal  scored by Argentina.
All credit goes to Saudi Arabia team coach and whole defense lineup and his goal keeper who stop the GOAT Lionel Messi most opportunity, but I hope Argentina will comeback stronger and get the trophy home
I think now Argentina has to work harder to face Poland and Mexico in the next match, the Argentina coach has to change the player's strategy and how to play better than yesterday, the weak defense made Argentina concede 2 goals by Saudi Arabia and that will be history as well as a lesson so that not to be repeated in the next match, today is no less interesting than the match that will take place
Morocco vs Croatia
Germany vs Japan
I really wonder what kind of game planning the Argentinian coach actually did for yesterday's match. I always saw Messi playing from the bottom, which I didn't think was good. If they played the game planning of the previous matches, they might have won easily. But Argentina is in a good danger after losing this match. If they don't win the next two matches, everyone's hopes are over in the first round.

The defeat against Saudi Arabia was an accident. There is no way to say that Argentina played badly in this match. Argentina played very well. But unfortunately they were defeated. They attacked a lot, tried to score. But due to the outstanding performance of Saudi Arabia's defenders and goalkeepers, Argentina were defeated.
But I agree with you that Argentina had some strategic problems. They don't use Messi properly. If Argentina wants to qualify for the next round, they will need to be more tactical and certainly, the defenders will need to play well. Argentina's defense looks as weak as it did in previous World Cups.
That's the point Argentina is no doubt the strongest team of FIFA right now and everyone's favourite but yesterday their defense was weak and that's reason for Saudia Arabia 2 goals in 2nd half. Their main focus was on attacking side of the game , Argentina 🇦🇷 possession is 70% and 596 passes that means they were totally stuck with scoring in game that was the reason Saudi Arabia scored goals .
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November 23, 2022, 11:04:37 AM
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Half Time: Morocco (0) vs Croatia (0)

Both teams played to a goalless draw in the first half. There were several mistakes made by the Moroccan players in the first half which almost led to a goal for Croatia. In the 7th minute the throw-in came loose due to poor control, Kramaric almost made the mistake into a goal.

Then in the 16th minute the chance came from Perisic who almost scored when Hakimi made a wrong pass.
A good opportunity as well as a shoot on target for Croatia in the 45th minute or the last minute of the first half through Modric who took advantage of the rebound ball.



The second half has started, we will see what strategy the two coaches will do after in the first half they have found the weak points of their respective teams.

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