PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[ralle14]

Banning gambling overall isn't a good idea since people would still find their own way to gamble whether it be gambling through in-game cosmetics or something similar as long as it has value. Maybe a few gamblers will get discouraged after this move but it'll definitely won't stop most gamblers from going back since there are other ways for them to gamble. If their main plan is to stop gambling as a way to improve the lives of the gamblers in the country then they should've done more and stopped their lottery as well.

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[Dave1]

If I'm not mistaken, it was allowed during that time for the reasons of raising taxes, because there is no money coming in to the Duterte government because of the pandemic.

But it seems that the online sabong turn into worst, everyone gets addicted to it, some people are kidnapped and presume to be dead. So for me it's better to banned these online cockfighting, but the government should be ready of some illegal cockfighting because for sure this gamblers are going to shift on that.

[electronicash]

very strategic. he is about to step down so he did it right. after all many lives had been destroyed with this esabong. i saw the news yesterday, he said the lives of Filipinos were disrupted playing esabong 24 hrs a day. Duterte doesn't need the funds coming from esabong anymore which i think was php600M. it's Marcos time to find where his funds will come from.

[TravelMug]

If I'm not mistaken, it was allowed during that time for the reasons of raising taxes, because there is no money coming in to the Duterte government because of the pandemic.

But it seems that the online sabong turn into worst, everyone gets addicted to it, some people are kidnapped and presume to be dead. So for me it's better to banned these online cockfighting, but the government should be ready of some illegal cockfighting because for sure this gamblers are going to shift on that.

Right, the revenue and taxes from e-sabong is enough to help the country during that time, with all the so called "ayuda", and maybe now we know where is the source of all the funds come from.

So he is stepping down already, we will have a new President next week, so I guess it's for the best interest of the nation to stop and banned this e-sabong for now before the Filipino suffers more.

[acroman08]

Some people sold their houses, cars, gadgets, and even a "kid".

I remember hearing this on the news. If I remember correctly it was the mother who sold the child for 45 thousand Philippine pesos (barely a thousand dollars) in order to gamble on e-sabong. In the end, I am glad that the child has been rescued from the buyer. I just hope the authorities filed a case against the mother for child endangerment and human trafficking.

[jrrsparkles]

Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.

[lienfaye]

During pandemic, these arenas where cockfighting are held temporarily closed down. E-sabong became an alternative for the gamblers to still bet and satisfy themselves. Its a big help for the Government because of the revenue they get from it. So if they decided to banned e-sabong, its a big loss for them because thats one of their source to fund their different programs particularly the Universal Health Program or UHC.

- Is it really valid that we should blame the online cockfighting here that's why most people wrecked their lives?

Well, its up to the gamblers how they will discipline themselves. Its really addicting but if you have discipline and you can control yourself not to go over your limit then good. The problem is not the e-sabong but the gambler itself.

[Wexnident]

- Do you think that your respective government will do the same even though that gambling is a big contributor to the government's revenue? It's a big sacrifice but no choice since lots of people got wrecked here and there are still unsolved cases of missing people.

I suppose? (Though I'm also a PH resident so I suppose they've already done it). Might be better to ask this as a personal opinion instead of a what-if for the government. Anyway, I'd suppose I'd do the same. Yes I understand the logic that it isn't really the activity's fault for them doing those stuff, Pretty sure any gambling activity would make them do the same, but you can't deny that it IS still the apparent reason at that moment. Though this is a band-aid solution really at most since it doesn't really attack the core of the problem

- Is it really valid that we should blame the online cockfighting here that's why most people wrecked their lives?

No, not really. I mean I get the logic, and it's exactly why I refuse to blame the activity. Just that it's a kind of delicate matter imo, since we're tackling here the mentality of players. And it's a LOT harder to educate people compared to outright just banning the source of the problem (even if there are multiple sources forr the problem).

[avikz]

Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.

cockfighting is one of the oldest gambling form that still exists today, along with horse racing. While horse racing is somewhat not super unethical, cockfighting is really unethical and it usually ends with a murder of an animal. But when governments has seen revenue, they didn't stop the spread, rather PH has a separate department for regulating such gambling habit.

https://www.pagcor.ph/regulatory/e-sabong.php

Cockfighting is a gambling game for the lower income group people in PH that's why it became immensely popular among the mass. But I am glad, that the government has finally decided to pull the plug from such bloody unethical game.

[molsewid]

It's about time honestly. According to Duterte, P640 million in taxes a month is not worth the social damage e-sabong has been causing. In part it is true, since I know a few people personally whom are into the said cockfighting craze, and are already problematic gamblers since it has reached the point wherein they will pawn important heirloom items with some serious sentimental value just to continue betting. Heck, event those people below the poverty line are betting on cockfighting games like hell, as if they can win every single bout.

Yes that's correct, given that there's a ton of news this year of missing people that is related to sabong, tho what we are talking right now is Online Sabong still i believe it is better to stop sabong but the thing is in gambling we can get a bigger taxes which the government are using for their project such as in health sector and education sector, we can't erase the fact that gambling taxes can help the people as well,I am just curious how much does the government is collecting in this Online Sabong.

[Oasisman]

Fights between animals should be prohibited because they are bloody, unethical and harmful.
I understand that they bring income to the State but in the end it is an industry that takes resources without producing anything, at most simple entertainment.
In this case there Is also an issue related gambling addiction... Well It was a good choice but I think a better information should always be provided because this time Is with this game the next time It could be another one

Yes, it is infact unethical, bloody, and harmful. However, this has been a tradition that's widely accepted by the society. In fact, roosters were believed to have a purpose of fighting in a cockpit (at least here in my country). Dead roosters are not wasted either, coz they're being cooked just like how other animals was slaughtered to feed humans. In that area, I don't have any problem with that.

Unfortunately, the focus of this banning is the excessive use of that specific platform.
There has been a lot of reports that families were broken because the father can't control his spendings into this type of gambling.
Some were even murdered, because either they run away with the money or cannot pay their debt accumulated by this type of gambling.
The easy access of online gambling platform creates a worst unimaginable unnecessary spending especially for those who really like to watch cock fighting.
So, in this area I 100% support the government for this.

[inthelongrun]

Finally! I'm glad that at last e-sabong finally came into a halt. Generally, I am not a fun on letting animals kill each other for entertainment or gambling purposes. I can see for myself that a lot of people were addicted into it. I saw and heard many people losing their savings, motorcycles, cars and other assets. Some were not able to pay their debts because of this. At least this was done right away before the current president term ends. A weak president might not be able to do this or maybe there will be a lot of debates in the congress and senate which is a waste of time.

[crwth]

I have thought of this hard when I have come across this article. I did see some of the news regarding this in my social media field, and what I'm concerned about there is what's next for the online cockfighting because they have built so much and have a lot to offer; still, now it would seem that they would go underground/under the radar to operate. Indeed, there is some cockfighting happening like that, but probably it's going to be more discreet.

I think this is where blockchain or cryptocurrencies would go in because maybe they could somehow do it and be untraceable or something?

I don't support this, though, because I know some people who have lost a lot. After all, they couldn't control themselves when they are gambling and just decided to go and put all in with all the money they have, and when they lose it, it's going to be harder for them because that's all they've got.

[Hypnosis00]

Fights between animals should be prohibited because they are bloody, unethical and harmful.
I understand that they bring income to the State but in the end it is an industry that takes resources without producing anything, at most simple entertainment.
In this case there Is also an issue related gambling addiction... Well It was a good choice but I think a better information should always be provided because this time Is with this game the next time It could be another one

That's not actually the reason as cockfighting has been accepted in the Philippines already.

The reason why the government stopped the operation is that the poor are getting poorer since they can easily access online sabong which is the favorite of the Filipinos in all types of gambling. The decision was carefully evaluated since the government is also losing like over $10 million dollars as a monthly income tax, but they just did what is right.

[VanityWallets2015]

These things are just about money. Although the culture there is also very different than in Western countries in Europe. There's too much money involved. The fact that you can also bet on it at online bookmakers indicates that there is a huge market for it. The only ones who can stop this kind of practice are the government, but as indicated above, the country loses income. The Philippines is not a rich country either.

[Questat]

These things are just about money. Although the culture there is also very different than in Western countries in Europe. There's too much money involved. The fact that you can also bet on it at online bookmakers indicates that there is a huge market for it. The only ones who can stop this kind of practice are the government, but as indicated above, the country loses income. The Philippines is not a rich country either.

yes they are not rich, and to sacrifice the amount of taxes they are making from online e-sabong, that only tells the business does not help the people in general, in fact, it only made their life miserable. Lotto is okay but online e-sabong is no, that's my personal stance on this matter.

[Yaunfitda]

Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.

If you are not from the Philippines then you are not familiar with online cockfighting. This has been on the surge lately right after the pandemic and it become one of those revenue making from the government. However, it went out of control, people gets addicted to it, and there are reports of people just disappearing and being taken by no other that the cops itself, so this needs to be stop by the government.

[yazher]

This online cockfighting gives access to everyone to gamble especially those who are on the lower income range, since they are the real target here and seriously even a minor can have a bet on this one and its really addicting. Though there’s no final resolution yet with regards to this one but hopefully the government will start to regulate this, and banned online cockfighting as much as possible. This has been the reason why many are broke today, this should be stopped.

There was no restriction and everyone can play especially the teens that are influenced by the YouTubers at their home and some of the wealthy old men that can't even move in their room are still playing. I know, because I have a source, a maid who was working at their home and she was telling this story to me, the old man was always pissed because he always lose, he cash in about $300 a day and most of the time he lost his bet. He always asked the maid to cash in for him to play in his room.

[xSkylarx]

Online cockfighting which seems new to me and I don't know people will get the same experience of real world online cockfighting. But banning because people are addicted is good move or else they can bring more restrictions so the addiction can be reduced but banning it is okay for me because its totally not fair to treat the animals in that way for our business.

If you are not from the Philippines then you are not familiar with online cockfighting. This has been on the surge lately right after the pandemic and it become one of those revenue making from the government. However, it went out of control, people gets addicted to it, and there are reports of people just disappearing and being taken by no other that the cops itself, so this needs to be stop by the government.

As OP stated, a kid was sold because of the E-sabong. This news was really trending because they did really sell their kid. Also, you are right, E-sabong was hyped during the pandemic because people had nothing to do at home. That is why the addiction in our country is rising. I know that this involves animals and most of us really disagree about animal fighting, but as you can see, this kind of gambling really gives a lot of money to the country because of tax. I am not really pro-ban on e-sabong and I am also not against it because there are still advantages to both sides of it.

[gantez]

Let's discuss: (applies to all gambling-type)

- Do you think that your respective government will do the same even though that gambling is a big contributor to the government's revenue? It's a big sacrifice but no choice since lots of people got wrecked here and there are still unsolved cases of missing people.

This is the act of addiction that make people behave in that kind of manner. The major purpose of government is so it can protect lives and the property that people are having and if government is not able doing this type of function it is a failure to government. Money and live not the same. If government is getting to itself tax money and the people are dying because others set them up and also losing property by selling it to play gamble of cockfighting this is not good story for government. It is already regulated as you write it so closing it is necessary to avoid people are dying and losing property.