PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded!

[goinmerry]

I believe it will return, all the elements are here.

- Government needs funding
- there are lobbyists, these lobbyists include big-time gamblers who use to make billions of pesos
- if held underground there will be corruption, operators are willing to pay corrupt officials
- there is a huge market and demand
- Everything is in place there are bookies and online sites, and they all need a go signal.

The upcoming administration makes it clear that e-sabong won't return.

1. Government needs funding but it's not that e-sabong is only the best alternative. It won't be suspended if that plays a big role. In other words, the revenue here can be covered.

2. Big-time gamblers here covered most gambling types. Even though there's no e-sabong, there are lots of online gambling alternatives here on which they can switch.

3. Yes those behind the table are possible but sorry that's not worth it since only a few will use the platform. The e-sabong becomes trendy here because it is legitimate and access is done thru a legit application like Gcash. How can these illegal operators earn if only a few people will use them?

4. Read no. 1.

5. Bookies and online sites are present here. It's just that e-sabong is removed. There are others games to covered.

[Naficopa]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

I dont know it is safe to gamble this way. Everything illegal brings in trouble. One gets into it thinking everything will go as they think - but trouble comes uninvited. I would not do anything illegal to keep myself safe from trouble.

[Distinctin]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

I dont know it is safe to gamble this way. Everything illegal brings in trouble. One gets into it thinking everything will go as they think - but trouble comes uninvited. I would not do anything illegal to keep myself safe from trouble.

Of course, it isn't safe to gamble on that certain online platform, it's already an illegal activity so we must keep away from it. Remember, the president himself appointed the NBI to track and crack these operators because the administration also knew that there were still some operations from persistent operators, so gambling on the platform is dangerous and we're just inviting trouble in that way. Worse is that we will be caught and be a sample to the public.

[stadus]

This kind of game only makes the rich(operator) richer, while the poor (gamblers) poorer.

Nothing to oppose but the reality that we will continue to see while this kind of business continues to operate, even the online ban has been implemented, the operation from the actual cockfight still kicking. Many of those who got addicted will find ways to bet and try some luck if they will win or they will continue to lose their money.

Making those operators to continue collecting more money from people who love to use this venue for their gambling satisfactions..

In reality, there's a coliseum for these types of activities where they have the blessing of the government and permit to carry on, and there is no denying that there's also a problem on that but the government doesn't want to be too much involved as it's a tradition in the Philippines. Although these addicts will continue to gamble on the said venues if they wanted to but their movement is limited because they can't gamble on the same activity everyday because these coliseums are only open once or twice a week.

That is probably much better than the online Sabong which can be played anywhere 24/7 if the gambler want it.

In the sense of limitation yes, but we don't know how deep the connections of those who are willing to facilitate even the ban was already been implemented, the gamblers who got addicted to this gambling will continue to find ways and illegal operators who are well-aware of those kinds of people will take advantage and will continue to ear huge amount of money even the risk is too high.

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

[harizen]

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

I think with the current status of the Government's strict compliance regarding e-sabong, no high officials will put their names at risk to protect some illegal operators. In other words, "lie-low".

There should be the right timing for these corrupt officials to do their illegitimate operations. That's how dirty politics works and not just they will just execute something without good timing. And now that there's a new administration coming that is also vocal on keeping the ban on "e-sabong", it's adding more risk for these officials' names to protect illegal operators.

I'm sure there are not many cases today of illegal operators being protected by some officials but instead, they are working on themselves to operate. There's even recent news that police hunt down an online sabong operation and one of the people who attempted to flee injured himself lol.

[jamyr]

- just to boost approval rating. . .lol

These regulations are nothing but another one of those #wtfIsThisAJokeMoments , just because its banned online doesnt mean cockfights will cease to operate.

[blockman]

just because its banned online doesnt mean cockfights will cease to operate.

That's right, there have been illegal online websites that have been caught and instead of digital cash, they're now using cryptocurrencies. And talking about the physical ones.
It's not covered by this ban, there can still a continuous operation for the physical ones and the actual effect of it to the bettors and ones involved are also the same as the online bettors.

[Fredomago]

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

Though there are no proven information about that, we all knew that it do exist those protectors are wide and they can feed every possible raid that the government may attempt, the money that surrounds this business are huge enough to bring those operators to continue this business, they can spend money to allure greed government officials and those who are in PNP, high rankings police officials that can monitor the actions that might be done against them.

[harizen]

These regulations are nothing but another one of those #wtfIsThisAJokeMoments , just because its banned online doesnt mean cockfights will cease to operate.

It's a big help. If you are from the PH, you will see everywhere that everyone is gambling in e-sabong. But since worst cases were reported as mentioned by OP, it ended up being suspended. Until now, no progress or status about those missing persons that got "kidnapped" related to e-sabong.

Obviously, legal cockfight operations are continuous here. The one that halted and suspended is the online version of it. The usual and normal operation of legal cockfighting operations here won't be banned as it's already been here for a long time. Of course, illegal operators who will operate e-sabong will be hunted down.

[Ziskinberg]

These regulations are nothing but another one of those #wtfIsThisAJokeMoments , just because its banned online doesnt mean cockfights will cease to operate.

It's a big help. If you are from the PH, you will see everywhere that everyone is gambling in e-sabong. But since worst cases were reported as mentioned by OP, it ended up being suspended. Until now, no progress or status about those missing persons that got "kidnapped" related to e-sabong.

Obviously, legal cockfight operations are continuous here. The one that halted and suspended is the online version of it. The usual and normal operation of legal cockfighting operations here won't be banned as it's already been here for a long time. Of course, illegal operators who will operate e-sabong will be hunted down.

Do you think that the reason why it's stopped is because of the unsolved kidnapping case?

If that is the reason, then I think the reason is not too deep that would affect the overall interest of the people, I mean if it does not destroy life, then it should not be banned, but I suspect that the government are seeing it as one of the reasons they poor struggles more financially.

[stadus]

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

I think with the current status of the Government's strict compliance regarding e-sabong, no high officials will put their names at risk to protect some illegal operators. In other words, "lie-low".

There should be the right timing for these corrupt officials to do their illegitimate operations. That's how dirty politics works and not just they will just execute something without good timing. And now that there's a new administration coming that is also vocal on keeping the ban on "e-sabong", it's adding more risk for these officials' names to protect illegal operators.

I'm sure there are not many cases today of illegal operators being protected by some officials but instead, they are working on themselves to operate. There's even recent news that police hunt down an online sabong operation and one of the people who attempted to flee injured himself lol.

We cannot know for sure, I mean they won't be literally standing to protect these operations and put their name/position in vain but they are just feeding some information. This types of activities became much more of a crime already as they were affecting so many lives because of this platform.

Though they are not the ones to blame because they are not forcing anyone to play, it's the people who chose to gamble voluntarily.

[joeperry]

I heard on the news awhile ago that there is a news about killing of the franchise owners of the online cockfighting, I am not sure about what I heard but do you think that those franchise owners are taking down because they are somewhat connected to the incident before? what could be the other reasons since I think they lose business because the PH temporarily bans the E-Sabong.

[virasog]

We know that even if cockfighting is made illegal there are going to be people that are going to want to take advantage of the situation and they will still organize those fights, but at least by making them illegal you will decrease the amount of animals becoming victims of that activity, and in the case you can find those that are organizing those events then you can put them in jail, so while it is clear that cockfighting will keep existing the number of those events will go down.

They will continue to play cockfighting if they have played often and the government will find it difficult to ban it because the organizer or people who gamble will hide the place.
But hopefully, the number of the events can go down so that gradually, there will be no more victims, either from animals or people who can become addicted.
But the use of crypto in online cockfighting can make crypto popular among gamblers because they can gamble without using their bank account.

I just found out yesterday from a friend that online esabong still exists with some illegal online platform. We can actually gamble if we like, but we should bear in mind that it's illegal and what we are doing is against the law, if we get scammed, we cannot complain to the authority as including us will be charge.

I dont know it is safe to gamble this way. Everything illegal brings in trouble. One gets into it thinking everything will go as they think - but trouble comes uninvited. I would not do anything illegal to keep myself safe from trouble.

First of all gambling is risky and then doing illegal gambling is even more risky. Even, if you won in online cockfighting by playing it illegally, there is chance that you got caught by the authorities and all your money is fortified too.
Cockfighting is not only illegally accepted , it is morally bad too. If you are human and have a heart, you should avoid it at any cost.

[Naficopa]

First of all gambling is risky and then doing illegal gambling is even more risky. Even, if you won in online cockfighting by playing it illegally, there is chance that you got caught by the authorities and all your money is fortified too.
Cockfighting is not only illegally accepted , it is morally bad too. If you are human and have a heart, you should avoid it at any cost.

Cock fighting seems an easies of gambling - if your pet is strong and sharp you know that you are going to win.
In our regions - people in village are very much in to this gambling, for them it is a source of entertainment and they have their set rules for it. One should have a strong heart to enjoy this.

[Distinctin]

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

Though there are no proven information about that, we all knew that it do exist those protectors are wide and they can feed every possible raid that the government may attempt, the money that surrounds this business are huge enough to bring those operators to continue this business, they can spend money to allure greed government officials and those who are in PNP, high rankings police officials that can monitor the actions that might be done against them.

We don't have to know because that information comes with names of these high ranking officials of any department including the National Police department, all we know that these sort of protections exists and we have seen plenty news about this and note these news are not speculations but it's already proven that there are protectors. Of course the E-Sabong have some of it, though it's not proven yet but we know that there will be someone who protects them with high ranks.

[crzy]

First of all gambling is risky and then doing illegal gambling is even more risky. Even, if you won in online cockfighting by playing it illegally, there is chance that you got caught by the authorities and all your money is fortified too.
Cockfighting is not only illegally accepted , it is morally bad too. If you are human and have a heart, you should avoid it at any cost.

Cock fighting seems an easies of gambling - if your pet is strong and sharp you know that you are going to win.
In our regions - people in village are very much in to this gambling, for them it is a source of entertainment and they have their set rules for it. One should have a strong heart to enjoy this.

They are breeders who really cares to their fighting cock but if they lose, they have no choice but to eat it. Well, this happen many times and we know that its really popular in our country. The new administration still looks like they are interested to continue this so they can collect taxes, No wonder if later on they will make this one legal and have its regulations again.

[dunfida]

The fact that these operators of E-Sabong been have some deep connections are already given as they are continually operating on a daily basis in other platform even though there's a ban implemented. They knew the risk but they not afraid because they are paying high officials in any sort of department to give them protection and feed them information, the money for protection is not that big compared to the money they are getting from the bettors in a daily basis.

Though there are no proven information about that, we all knew that it do exist those protectors are wide and they can feed every possible raid that the government may attempt, the money that surrounds this business are huge enough to bring those operators to continue this business, they can spend money to allure greed government officials and those who are in PNP, high rankings police officials that can monitor the actions that might be done against them.

We don't have to know because that information comes with names of these high ranking officials of any department including the National Police department, all we know that these sort of protections exists and we have seen plenty news about this and note these news are not speculations but it's already proven that there are protectors. Of course the E-Sabong have some of it, though it's not proven yet but we know that there will be someone who protects them with high ranks.

For a corrupted country then it would be possible thats why there are some activities or events which cant really totally get rid off or hadnt able to be caught because there are ones who do protect these fellas

thats why it do continue to operate despite of the bans and prohibitions because there are ones who are sitting on the top who are letting this activities to continue and make benefit from it.

This is why its not surprising that how much they do try to get rid or resolve things up which is impossible but this is only possible into some countries but not all.

[smyslov]

First of all gambling is risky and then doing illegal gambling is even more risky. Even, if you won in online cockfighting by playing it illegally, there is chance that you got caught by the authorities and all your money is fortified too.
Cockfighting is not only illegally accepted , it is morally bad too. If you are human and have a heart, you should avoid it at any cost.

Cock fighting seems an easies of gambling - if your pet is strong and sharp you know that you are going to win.
In our regions - people in village are very much in to this gambling, for them it is a source of entertainment and they have their set rules for it. One should have a strong heart to enjoy this.

They are breeders who really cares to their fighting cock but if they lose, they have no choice but to eat it. Well, this happen many times and we know that its really popular in our country. The new administration still looks like they are interested to continue this so they can collect taxes, No wonder if later on they will make this one legal and have its regulations again.

It should be the other way around when the owner or the breeder's cock loses the match the owner of the cock that beats the other cock takes home the dead cock its like the winner take all policy, it's hard for a breeder to eat his own cock.

If the new government will relaunch the online sabong it could be the end of this year, the new administration will do a transition first, and appoint new government officials before looking for new ways to generate funds but I read that one of the option is increasing tax but I'm 100% sure the relaunch of e-sabong will be recommended because there are many lobbyists and there's bribe involved.

[bisdak40]

I heard on the news awhile ago that there is a news about killing of the franchise owners of the online cockfighting, I am not sure about what I heard but do you think that those franchise owners are taking down because they are somewhat connected to the incident before? what could be the other reasons since I think they lose business because the PH temporarily bans the E-Sabong.

I have not heard of this news yet, kindly post the link here if ever you see it again.

If you dig deeper into this online cockfighting you will be shocked at how this thing is full of S__T. Lots of cheating were happening that most of the betters don't recognize how it is being done. As per PNP, cheating is the main reason in the disappearance of those 20+ sabong enthusiasts.

Maybe some of you think that online sabong has fully stopped but the truth is it still persist in illegal way just like before. Those online operators in the legal one are still the operators in this illegal activity also. It is hard to stop E-sabong since the money involve this industry is so massive.

[Theones]

I heard on the news awhile ago that there is a news about killing of the franchise owners of the online cockfighting, I am not sure about what I heard but do you think that those franchise owners are taking down because they are somewhat connected to the incident before? what could be the other reasons since I think they lose business because the PH temporarily bans the E-Sabong.

I have not heard of this news yet, kindly post the link here if ever you see it again.

If you dig deeper into this online cockfighting you will be shocked at how this thing is full of S__T. Lots of cheating were happening that most of the betters don't recognize how it is being done. As per PNP, cheating is the main reason in the disappearance of those 20+ sabong enthusiasts.

Maybe some of you think that online sabong has fully stopped but the truth is it still persist in illegal way just like before. Those online operators in the legal one are still the operators in this illegal activity also. It is hard to stop E-sabong since the money involve this industry is so massive.

The cock fighting is very common in villages - but in not sure about online cock fighting because in many villages there is limited internet supply.
But this cock fight spectators need be more stronger than average people. Because it needs a strong never to watch animal in trouble - I hope animal rights association work a bit harder on this law.