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May 09, 2022, 05:12:36 AM
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Cockfighting is indeed the old way or our ancestors to enjoy the game and nothing more than a hobby. Maybe it has spread in several countries which is still in use today is only a tradition. Thailand is indeed different and always has 1 superior step in planning and doing it. This is a new thing for me, maybe there are no sharp knives and crowds in one arena but cockfighting has always been forbidden by my religion. Because of the nature of animals that groan and don't have common sense, they are infiltrated by people who can cause violence. the blood spilled and the loss of animal life. It does not mean that the income obtained from the contribution of the game to the country, I appreciate the attitude and decision of the president who protects the people wisely.

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May 09, 2022, 12:25:18 PM
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Cockfighting in the philippines might bad for real, but this online sabong(cockfighting) in the PH gave helped to many people who loss their job during pandemic season, but still of course it remains bad habit not only for the adult but of course gor the kids as well.

Yeah! that's what I'm saying because of no regulations, kids nowadays easily join and can access Gcash with the minimum regulations and that means they can cash in easily to bet and the problem here is the kids don't have any jobs at all except for the few of them, so where do you think they get their capital? this is a big question because before they even get addicted to playing online cockfighting, they already have this case where they might steal it from their parents or get it from illegal sources which we cannot even imagine.

At their young age, those kids can easily do things that we can't imagine. Cockfighting is another type of gambling that can easily attract and engaged people, young ones who can't control can easily get addicted. Many problem has been raised that's why the president decided to close it and not to allow E-Sabong to operate.

There are opposing side but the vast majorities are happy to know that the action has been implemented, lots of anomalies from
police officials and government officials that involve to this business.

Plus the fact that known personalities are also engaged and enjoying this gambling, maybe they will continue their game
using the legal cook-fighting arena after this closure. Roll Eyes Cool

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May 09, 2022, 12:25:52 PM
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We have weekly backyard cockfighting here on our farm, of course, it's illegal but it's our folk's tradition, and besides its on limited hours you cannot lose a lot of money here because you can do it at a specific time because they are afraid of getting raid and no young people are allowed to bet, but online sabong or cockfighting is very different even children can bet and hide it to the parents, it escalates to something worse and as the president says the country is losing their moral values.
That's one way for people who still want to keep playing cockfighting. They can still use the methods they are used to and if online sabong has been banned and can no longer be accessed, there is a possibility that they will return to the old ways. Of course, this should be a concern for the local government to keep an eye on the places they usually use and also look for other places that they might use. Yes, kids can gamble too because they can see adults gambling on the premises and they will want to give it a try.

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May 09, 2022, 07:04:39 PM
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At their young age, those kids can easily do things that we can't imagine. Cockfighting is another type of gambling that can easily attract and engaged people, young ones who can't control can easily get addicted. Many problem has been raised that's why the president decided to close it and not to allow E-Sabong to operate.
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Cockfighting in this case is part of the main problem - now with a smartphone in your hand you can access anything and a dilemma arises: if you ban everything (for good intentions) then this will be an obvious violation of freedoms, and if not, then even those who do not must access (minors) certain information/services will receive it. Personally, I choose freedom, parents should take care of children, not the government.

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May 09, 2022, 07:20:45 PM
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Cockfighting is indeed the old way or our ancestors to enjoy the game and nothing more than a hobby. Maybe it has spread in several countries which is still in use today is only a tradition. Thailand is indeed different and always has 1 superior step in planning and doing it. This is a new thing for me, maybe there are no sharp knives and crowds in one arena but cockfighting has always been forbidden by my religion. Because of the nature of animals that groan and don't have common sense, they are infiltrated by people who can cause violence. the blood spilled and the loss of animal life. It does not mean that the income obtained from the contribution of the game to the country, I appreciate the attitude and decision of the president who protects the people wisely.
this is really a concern for me because the average fighting cock in cockfighting (this is what I see in cockfighting in my city) is equipped with small knives in their feet. Cockfighting is proof that humans still like to see animals tortured for profit and that makes those who like cockfighting look no better than animals.

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May 09, 2022, 07:26:10 PM
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this is really a concern for me because the average fighting cock in cockfighting (this is what I see in cockfighting in my city) is equipped with small knives in their feet. Cockfighting is proof that humans still like to see animals tortured for profit and that makes those who like cockfighting look no better than animals.

I have seen this short documentary in youtube about Sebong/cockfighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GazqNRIr4
the author has a dilemma. we are so sure to treat animals so well in Western countries? after all we raise them in dismal conditions and then we kill them badly (just having seen earthlings).

meanwhile "fighters" are treated throughout their life with care and attention ... "they also take vitamins"!

actually the doubt arises ...but seeing two animals dueling until their death is still deplorable and really sad Sad

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May 09, 2022, 07:53:49 PM
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this is really a concern for me because the average fighting cock in cockfighting (this is what I see in cockfighting in my city) is equipped with small knives in their feet. Cockfighting is proof that humans still like to see animals tortured for profit and that makes those who like cockfighting look no better than animals.

I have seen this short documentary in youtube about Sebong/cockfighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GazqNRIr4
the author has a dilemma. we are so sure to treat animals so well in Western countries? after all we raise them in dismal conditions and then we kill them badly (just having seen earthlings).

meanwhile "fighters" are treated throughout their life with care and attention ... "they also take vitamins"!

actually the doubt arises ...but seeing two animals dueling until their death is still deplorable and really sad Sad


I believe this is like horse racing where you can't discard the game from the society as it is already part of the culture.
And because it has been rooted for decades and decades, people can't just remove it even if we know there are some mistreatment towards the animals involved.
You can just close your eyes and not participate in this kind of sports because going against with the culture is hard.
They can ban online cockfighting, but I have the feeling that it is only temporary because of the disappearing issues of its agents.
It will go back again as the people behind this sports are influential to these political individuals. Let us see if they can keep this protocol.
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May 09, 2022, 08:33:07 PM
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this is really a concern for me because the average fighting cock in cockfighting (this is what I see in cockfighting in my city) is equipped with small knives in their feet. Cockfighting is proof that humans still like to see animals tortured for profit and that makes those who like cockfighting look no better than animals.

I have seen this short documentary in youtube about Sebong/cockfighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7GazqNRIr4
the author has a dilemma. we are so sure to treat animals so well in Western countries? after all we raise them in dismal conditions and then we kill them badly (just having seen earthlings).

meanwhile "fighters" are treated throughout their life with care and attention ... "they also take vitamins"!

actually the doubt arises ...but seeing two animals dueling until their death is still deplorable and really sad Sad


I believe this is like horse racing where you can't discard the game from the society as it is already part of the culture.
And because it has been rooted for decades and decades, people can't just remove it even if we know there are some mistreatment towards the animals involved.
You can just close your eyes and not participate in this kind of sports because going against with the culture is hard.
They can ban online cockfighting, but I have the feeling that it is only temporary because of the disappearing issues of its agents.
It will go back again as the people behind this sports are influential to these political individuals. Let us see if they can keep this protocol.
Depends on what government would really be doing,whether they would really be making some changes later on or making this as temporary which is something to be anticipated.
Its true that these gambling activities had been rooted for ages or been part of the culture which its really hard to believed on that it would really be ban or prohibited
since people had already get used to it or been aware for how many decades.Stopping it completely is something not really that easy to believed.
Online betting might be banned but later on it would be removed later on when things or noises been settled.

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May 09, 2022, 08:48:18 PM
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Cockfighting in the philippines might bad for real, but this online sabong(cockfighting) in the PH gave helped to many people who loss their job during pandemic season, but still of course it remains bad habit not only for the adult but of course gor the kids as well.

Yeah! that's what I'm saying because of no regulations, kids nowadays easily join and can access Gcash with the minimum regulations and that means they can cash in easily to bet and the problem here is the kids don't have any jobs at all except for the few of them, so where do you think they get their capital? this is a big question because before they even get addicted to playing online cockfighting, they already have this case where they might steal it from their parents or get it from illegal sources which we cannot even imagine.

But the adoption of cryptocurrencies will make transactions with money even easier for children, right? But we do not oppose adoption because of this, but on the contrary, we are all waiting for it. All phenomena have both pluses and minuses, but we cannot constantly forbid something because the phenomenon is not ideal and has minuses. We need to look for other solutions to this problem.
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May 09, 2022, 08:52:27 PM
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Cockfighting in the philippines might bad for real, but this online sabong(cockfighting) in the PH gave helped to many people who loss their job during pandemic season, but still of course it remains bad habit not only for the adult but of course gor the kids as well.

Yeah! that's what I'm saying because of no regulations, kids nowadays easily join and can access Gcash with the minimum regulations and that means they can cash in easily to bet and the problem here is the kids don't have any jobs at all except for the few of them, so where do you think they get their capital? this is a big question because before they even get addicted to playing online cockfighting, they already have this case where they might steal it from their parents or get it from illegal sources which we cannot even imagine.

But the adoption of cryptocurrencies will make transactions with money even easier for children, right? But we do not oppose adoption because of this, but on the contrary, we are all waiting for it. All phenomena have both pluses and minuses, but we cannot constantly forbid something because the phenomenon is not ideal and has minuses. We need to look for other solutions to this problem.
Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.

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May 09, 2022, 09:47:21 PM
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Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.
Once you’re exposed to gambling and you’re a greedy player, you will always find a way gamble and in online that is more possible to do so. Online cockfighting becomes a big platform during the pandemic and now the government is trying to regulate it or ban it since they can’t control the gamblers anymore and many ruins their lives because of this, government should react fast on this one.
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May 09, 2022, 11:26:56 PM
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Everything that is inhuman is banned but people find the way to have entreatment.
Guess what - in our country gambling is banned - but people have find bitcoin and last year there was a huge spike in the funds from the crypto owners.
So bans are there but people know how to break laws as well.
Once you’re exposed to gambling and you’re a greedy player, you will always find a way gamble and in online that is more possible to do so. Online cockfighting becomes a big platform during the pandemic and now the government is trying to regulate it or ban it since they can’t control the gamblers anymore and many ruins their lives because of this, government should react fast on this one.
On the time the pandemic started and run for a couple of years then it cant really be avoided for people not to find out something which they could really enjoy or entertain theirselves and on the time that online betting

was available specially for cockfighting then they do really find out a place on where they do place bets but the con's or problems generate is about addiction on which it did really becomes big and comes into a point on which they cant able to control it.

Yes, taxes are appealing but there are government which are really focuses or in concern of their citizens.

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May 09, 2022, 11:36:32 PM
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Yeah! that's what I'm saying because of no regulations, kids nowadays easily join and can access Gcash with the minimum regulations and that means they can cash in easily to bet and the problem here is the kids don't have any jobs at all except for the few of them, so where do you think they get their capital? this is a big question because before they even get addicted to playing online cockfighting, they already have this case where they might steal it from their parents or get it from illegal sources which we cannot even imagine.

Wait what bro, kids can access GCASH? What age period are you referring to here?

GCASH is only allowed to use by 18-years old above (PH). And besides, they can't do the KYC as these kids don't surely have those necessary valid IDs.

I doubt they can also use or borrow GCASH from their parents or close one as for every deposit, that will notify the account owner. Are those non-KYC accounts able to still receive money from verified users?

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The problem is when gambling becomes available 24 hours 7 days a week and that access to it is available to everyone. Gambling is not designed to be there all the time. Gambling should not be the focus of everybody all the time. But when it is always there in front of you and always readily available after a few touches on your smart phone, it will really become a strong influence. It could easily get your attention. When this happens, it is better to issue a ban and forget about the revenue.
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The problem is when gambling becomes available 24 hours 7 days a week and that access to it is available to everyone. Gambling is not designed to be there all the time. Gambling should not be the focus of everybody all the time. But when it is always there in front of you and always readily available after a few touches on your smart phone, it will really become a strong influence. It could easily get your attention. When this happens, it is better to issue a ban and forget about the revenue.
If we are honest this is a problem that is relatively new, after all it was not that long ago that if you wanted to gamble you need to do so at a physical casino, and now due to the fact that we are connected all the time thanks to the internet and that we can reach a person at the other side of the world with no issue then activities like this have become more problematic, as the audience for it has increased and this would lead to more cockfights, as the organizers try to satisfy the demand there is for this, so a ban seems like the most appropriate outcome to avoid this situation to continue.

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For me, it shouldn't be stopped but should be more regulated strictly. I know there's a thing that can balance this but I don't know the specific term of it. Because of these irresponsible gamblers, the government's revenue got affected which should be a big help now that our country is just slowly rising after years of dealing with the pandemic.

People didn't wreck their lives gambling, something else was the trigger that drew them into the game and made them overspend - maybe boredom, trying to recreate a memory, looking for shortcuts to wealth, etc. If they didn't lose it gambling they would likely have found a different way to spend that money. However this law pretends to be noble, but the only reason they banned it online is because it looks good (animal welfare), brings in a fairly low amount and they're probably losing more money to unregulated overseas operations they have no control over.

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May 10, 2022, 06:59:21 AM
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The problem is when gambling becomes available 24 hours 7 days a week and that access to it is available to everyone. Gambling is not designed to be there all the time. Gambling should not be the focus of everybody all the time. But when it is always there in front of you and always readily available after a few touches on your smart phone, it will really become a strong influence. It could easily get your attention. When this happens, it is better to issue a ban and forget about the revenue.
Don't forget that gambling is now available 24 hours 7 days a week because people can access online gambling and can immediately play easily. Maybe many people play gambling every day and try to win a lot of money from gambling. But this is about how you can avoid the temptation not to gamble every day because we definitely have other things to do every day and not just to gamble. If the government wants to issue a ban on gambling, they need to provide understanding to the public and explain that gambling must be in its place and must not interfere with their daily activities or activities. Otherwise, they would only destroy their lives sooner or later.

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May 10, 2022, 03:21:52 PM
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The problem is when gambling becomes available 24 hours 7 days a week and that access to it is available to everyone. Gambling is not designed to be there all the time. Gambling should not be the focus of everybody all the time. But when it is always there in front of you and always readily available after a few touches on your smart phone, it will really become a strong influence. It could easily get your attention. When this happens, it is better to issue a ban and forget about the revenue.

That's valid. Each time you see an available fight being offered, the chance that you will be tempted to bet is always possible. I'm referring to E-Sabong in particular, with an easy access using your smart phone, you can join and pick your chosen cock in hope that it will bring you some decent amount of profits.

The decision of banning though is because of those rising problems with people who are missing, it would catch the attentions of mass media
and the President is answering the calls.

It's different from majority online gambling where the sole responsible is you. Without control, losing everything will be possible to happen.

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May 10, 2022, 03:33:12 PM
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Indeed. Addiction is very hard to prevent and treat, what is more challenging is the resources and the openness of the country regarding mental health issues and such, to which I heard is limited and not really promoted to the public that much. Also, what you've mentioned would be the ideal solution for this, for the government to ban advertisement and even limit the availability of gambling, but I doubt that this will happen because the government officials themselves are behind the operations of these. As per online gambling, no one can really stop those because there VPN and such that could be used for bypassing.

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May 10, 2022, 03:37:38 PM
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The problem is when gambling becomes available 24 hours 7 days a week and that access to it is available to everyone. Gambling is not designed to be there all the time. Gambling should not be the focus of everybody all the time. But when it is always there in front of you and always readily available after a few touches on your smart phone, it will really become a strong influence. It could easily get your attention. When this happens, it is better to issue a ban and forget about the revenue.
Don't forget that gambling is now available 24 hours 7 days a week because people can access online gambling and can immediately play easily. Maybe many people play gambling every day and try to win a lot of money from gambling. But this is about how you can avoid the temptation not to gamble every day because we definitely have other things to do every day and not just to gamble. If the government wants to issue a ban on gambling, they need to provide understanding to the public and explain that gambling must be in its place and must not interfere with their daily activities or activities. Otherwise, they would only destroy their lives sooner or later.
Providing understanding to the public, maybe only a few are aware of it because the only gambling that controls it is oneself and self-awareness.
and the right choice for the government is to block it and that's it, I think people will stop when they realize that what they are doing and gambling excessively is not good which in the end they fix it and even stop it.

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