Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..

[DrBeer]

I apologize for interfering in your dialogue, I will clarify a little. I agree that WAR is a consequence of the failure of diplomatic efforts, negotiations. War ... This is when the army fights against the army, with the aim of either making some decisions, or changing power by force / military means, or resolving territorial disputes. But our situation is different. This is an attempt to DESTROY the country, people, culture. Massacres, and sadistic ones, are not war. This is fascism and terrorism. Deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure is fascism and terrorism. The systematic, purposeful, total destruction of civilian cities is fascism and terrorism. The purposeful destruction of a nation, its culture, history, language is genocide, fascism and terrorism. According to your logic, it turns out that - the mass, purposeful, murder of Jews by Nazi Germany, is it just "not agreed"? No, this is called genocide and fascism! In our reality, genocide as a consequence of terrorism and rashism. Let's be honest about the situation!

I would rather agree to call Kyiv's policy towards the Russian-speaking population of Donbass a genocide than Russia's actions towards Ukraine. Calls to be honest should come from an honest person, and your brain is clouded by propaganda and it seems you perceive the projections of your internal complexes as reality. The easiest way is to shift from a sick head to a healthy one, but this will not cure a sick head. The operation in Ukraine will continue until Russia fully achieves its goals, be patient.

Those. , in your opinion, genocide is the definition of the state language? And the mass sadistic murders of the inhabitants of a certain country - is it so-so self-indulgence? Conscience does not torment? It seems that the conscience and ideas of the Russian world are different realities.

By the way - well, tell me, a citizen of Ukraine, Russian, Russian-speaking, and other forum participants, what kind of "genocide" was arranged here in Ukraine in relation to the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine? Only with facts! (this means you will have to do absolutely without propaganda blanks )

The result, or finale, of Russian aggression will be denazification, demilitarization, defascistization, deputinization, derashistization of Russia itself


PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

[BADecker]

I apologize for interfering in your dialogue, I will clarify a little. I agree that WAR is a consequence of the failure of diplomatic efforts, negotiations. War ... This is when the army fights against the army, with the aim of either making some decisions, or changing power by force / military means, or resolving territorial disputes. But our situation is different. This is an attempt to DESTROY the country, people, culture. Massacres, and sadistic ones, are not war. This is fascism and terrorism. Deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure is fascism and terrorism. The systematic, purposeful, total destruction of civilian cities is fascism and terrorism. The purposeful destruction of a nation, its culture, history, language is genocide, fascism and terrorism. According to your logic, it turns out that - the mass, purposeful, murder of Jews by Nazi Germany, is it just "not agreed"? No, this is called genocide and fascism! In our reality, genocide as a consequence of terrorism and rashism. Let's be honest about the situation!

I would rather agree to call Kyiv's policy towards the Russian-speaking population of Donbass a genocide than Russia's actions towards Ukraine. Calls to be honest should come from an honest person, and your brain is clouded by propaganda and it seems you perceive the projections of your internal complexes as reality. The easiest way is to shift from a sick head to a healthy one, but this will not cure a sick head. The operation in Ukraine will continue until Russia fully achieves its goals, be patient.

Those. , in your opinion, genocide is the definition of the state language? And the mass sadistic murders of the inhabitants of a certain country - is it so-so self-indulgence? Conscience does not torment? It seems that the conscience and ideas of the Russian world are different realities.

By the way - well, tell me, a citizen of Ukraine, Russian, Russian-speaking, and other forum participants, what kind of "genocide" was arranged here in Ukraine in relation to the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine? Only with facts! (this means you will have to do absolutely without propaganda blanks )

The result, or finale, of Russian aggression will be denazification, demilitarization, defascistization, deputinization, derashistization of Russia itself


PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Russia is finally doing something they should have done years ago.

Russia is a new country. It's only been about 30 years since the Soviet Union fell. All this time - but especially these last few years - former Soviet countries have been killing Russians out of vengeance for Stalin.

Putin has been calling on the US for ages to stop supporting those countries that are killing her people. With Trump, he was finally having some success. But big money didn't like that. They want the wealth of Siberia. So they saw to it Trump was ousted, and inimical Biden regime was stuck in there.

The American people are wonderful people... as are the Russian people and the Ukrainian people. They are being lied to by their governments and by the media. Time to clean house on all these evil government leaders, not pick on nations that are as ignorant as you are.

[paxmao]

I apologize for interfering in your dialogue, I will clarify a little. I agree that WAR is a consequence of the failure of diplomatic efforts, negotiations. War ... This is when the army fights against the army, with the aim of either making some decisions, or changing power by force / military means, or resolving territorial disputes. But our situation is different. This is an attempt to DESTROY the country, people, culture. Massacres, and sadistic ones, are not war. This is fascism and terrorism. Deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure is fascism and terrorism. The systematic, purposeful, total destruction of civilian cities is fascism and terrorism. The purposeful destruction of a nation, its culture, history, language is genocide, fascism and terrorism. According to your logic, it turns out that - the mass, purposeful, murder of Jews by Nazi Germany, is it just "not agreed"? No, this is called genocide and fascism! In our reality, genocide as a consequence of terrorism and rashism. Let's be honest about the situation!

I would rather agree to call Kyiv's policy towards the Russian-speaking population of Donbass a genocide than Russia's actions towards Ukraine. Calls to be honest should come from an honest person, and your brain is clouded by propaganda and it seems you perceive the projections of your internal complexes as reality. The easiest way is to shift from a sick head to a healthy one, but this will not cure a sick head. The operation in Ukraine will continue until Russia fully achieves its goals, be patient.

Those. , in your opinion, genocide is the definition of the state language? And the mass sadistic murders of the inhabitants of a certain country - is it so-so self-indulgence? Conscience does not torment? It seems that the conscience and ideas of the Russian world are different realities.

By the way - well, tell me, a citizen of Ukraine, Russian, Russian-speaking, and other forum participants, what kind of "genocide" was arranged here in Ukraine in relation to the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine? Only with facts! (this means you will have to do absolutely without propaganda blanks )

The result, or finale, of Russian aggression will be denazification, demilitarization, defascistization, deputinization, derashistization of Russia itself


PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Adolf Putin is a Russian supremacist armed with nuclear weapons. His understanding of the international relations is no different of how a Gangster sees the streets of a city: there to be taken.

In this case, he has achieved a marginal territorial gain in exchange for:

- Rearming Europe.
- Potentially extending by several thousand miles the NATO border with Russia and his puppets.
- Getting sanctions like never seen before, more to come.
- Expelling himself for many of the international organisations and being non-grata in most of the civilised world.
- Destroying the commercial reputation of Russia by not honouring contracts and alienating customers.

The US cannot ever thank this despot enough.

[BADecker]

Adolf Putin is a Russian supremacist armed with nuclear weapons. His understanding of the international relations is no different of how a Gangster sees the streets of a city: there to be taken.

In this case, he has achieved a marginal territorial gain in exchange for:

- Rearming Europe.
- Potentially extending by several thousand miles the NATO border with Russia and his puppets.
- Getting sanctions like never seen before, more to come.
- Expelling himself for many of the international organisations and being non-grata in most of the civilised world.
- Destroying the commercial reputation of Russia by not honouring contracts and alienating customers.

The US cannot ever thank this despot enough.

If Marx and Lenin and the many others of their caliber heard you say this stuff, they would be rolling around laughing in their graves.



EDIT: Well, not Lenin, of course. He's in that mausoleum - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Mausoleum.

[be.open]

PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Perhaps you will be very surprised, but in Russia 37 languages have the status of a state language.

[paxmao]

PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Perhaps you will be very surprised, but in Russia 37 languages have the status of a state language.

You can give them whatever status, Adolf Putin is a Russian ethnic supremacist that despises all the minorities, which are for the main part excluded from the government ranks and decisions. Not only that, the lowest ranks of troops and the ones that are sent to die in suicide missions are mostly from the eastern regions. The people from Moscow and St Petersburg are underrepresented in the lower ranks and certainly underrepresented in the death toll.

Also, the conscription service in Russia excludes precisely the people who have best contacts and more money by simply not recruiting people who can afford to go to University. Those who have the right contacts can join the officer's schools and -believe it or not - are excluded from going directly to conflicts as they are "training".

This is how madness inside the madness works in Putin's Reich Tzardom.

[bitgov]

Also, the conscription service in Russia excludes precisely the people who have best contacts and more money by simply not recruiting people who can afford to go to University. Those who have the right contacts can join the officer's schools and -believe it or not - are excluded from going directly to conflicts as they are "training".

This is how madness inside the madness works in Putin's Reich Tzardom.

If they have not used full force and they have done this much damage - why are people asking to use the whole force?
Have they gone crazy - this is not bullfighting or cock fighting - this will kill people. However Ukraine did not come slow as they got so much military aid. And attached Russian tanks like pro.

[BADecker]

^^^ Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..


Vodka. The answer has to be Vodka.      

[be.open]

PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Perhaps you will be very surprised, but in Russia 37 languages have the status of a state language.

You can give them whatever status, Adolf Putin is a Russian ethnic supremacist that despises all the minorities, which are for the main part excluded from the government ranks and decisions. Not only that, the lowest ranks of troops and the ones that are sent to die in suicide missions are mostly from the eastern regions. The people from Moscow and St Petersburg are underrepresented in the lower ranks and certainly underrepresented in the death toll.

Also, the conscription service in Russia excludes precisely the people who have best contacts and more money by simply not recruiting people who can afford to go to University. Those who have the right contacts can join the officer's schools and -believe it or not - are excluded from going directly to conflicts as they are "training".

This is how madness inside the madness works in Putin's Reich Tzardom.

Already it seems you don’t know what to come up with in your attacks of chronic Russophobia. For some reason, tattoos with a swastika are on the Ukrainian Nazis, and the main villain here is still Putin.

[paxmao]

PS. By the way, a question! It turns out in Russia the genocide of all peoples, except for the "Russians" so to speak? The state language in Russia is Russian? Where is Tatar, where is Hebrew, where is Ukrainian and Udmurt? Pure water genocide is obtained!

Perhaps you will be very surprised, but in Russia 37 languages have the status of a state language.

You can give them whatever status, Adolf Putin is a Russian ethnic supremacist that despises all the minorities, which are for the main part excluded from the government ranks and decisions. Not only that, the lowest ranks of troops and the ones that are sent to die in suicide missions are mostly from the eastern regions. The people from Moscow and St Petersburg are underrepresented in the lower ranks and certainly underrepresented in the death toll.

Also, the conscription service in Russia excludes precisely the people who have best contacts and more money by simply not recruiting people who can afford to go to University. Those who have the right contacts can join the officer's schools and -believe it or not - are excluded from going directly to conflicts as they are "training".

This is how madness inside the madness works in Putin's Reich Tzardom.

Already it seems you don’t know what to come up with in your attacks of chronic Russophobia. For some reason, tattoos with a swastika are on the Ukrainian Nazis, and the main villain here is still Putin.

Where did I say Russians or the people of Russia? This is Adolf Putin and the bunch of Psychos that conform his government and the army, not the Russians as such. You are perfectly aware that what I say is true. Moscow never wanted any development in the eastern regions. They get plenty of cheap labour and army cannon fodder and giving these people an opportunity would shift the power balance from Moscow. What did you think? That the rest of the world does not know about how Adolf Putin manages Russia?

Not only I am not Russophobe, but I seem to be the only one here who is trying to let young people in Russia what happens when they sign or are forced to sign into Adolf Piutin's army - They are sent to be grinded and burned. If any of their friends and relatives read this, at least they cannot say they did not know.

[be.open]

Where did I say Russians or the people of Russia? This is Adolf Putin and the bunch of Psychos that conform his government and the army, not the Russians as such. You are perfectly aware that what I say is true. Moscow never wanted any development in the eastern regions. They get plenty of cheap labour and army cannon fodder and giving these people an opportunity would shift the power balance from Moscow. What did you think? That the rest of the world does not know about how Adolf Putin manages Russia?

Not only I am not Russophobe, but I seem to be the only one here who is trying to let young people in Russia what happens when they sign or are forced to sign into Adolf Piutin's army - They are sent to be grinded and burned. If any of their friends and relatives read this, at least they cannot say they did not know.

Your repeated repetition of the same thought becomes tiresome. It seems this is from the Goebbels manual, that if you lie a hundred times, then the lie becomes the truth?

There is no mobilization in Russia, professional soldiers are involved in the operation. There have already been four waves of mobilization in Ukraine, and now the fifth one is underway. Ukrainian men aged 18 to 60 have a difficult choice - to die, go to jail or be captured by Russians. Russian men have a simpler choice, you can continue to live as you lived before.

[paxmao]

Where did I say Russians or the people of Russia? This is Adolf Putin and the bunch of Psychos that conform his government and the army, not the Russians as such. You are perfectly aware that what I say is true. Moscow never wanted any development in the eastern regions. They get plenty of cheap labour and army cannon fodder and giving these people an opportunity would shift the power balance from Moscow. What did you think? That the rest of the world does not know about how Adolf Putin manages Russia?

Not only I am not Russophobe, but I seem to be the only one here who is trying to let young people in Russia what happens when they sign or are forced to sign into Adolf Piutin's army - They are sent to be grinded and burned. If any of their friends and relatives read this, at least they cannot say they did not know.

Your repeated repetition of the same thought becomes tiresome. It seems this is from the Goebbels manual, that if you lie a hundred times, then the lie becomes the truth?

There is no mobilization in Russia, professional soldiers are involved in the operation. There have already been four waves of mobilization in Ukraine, and now the fifth one is underway. Ukrainian men aged 18 to 60 have a difficult choice - to die, go to jail or be captured by Russians. Russian men have a simpler choice, you can continue to live as you lived before.

I am so sorry that I am not amusing you - really my goal in life is to entertain people like you and make them have a great time and feel good about themselves. Oh... no no ... that is Russian TV not me, my mistake. I got confused when you asked when a lie becomes truth, that is much more your style.

None of what you say disproves anything of what I say. If a Russian decides to sign for service, he must be aware that this is an ugly war, with many resemblances to the trench war of WWI and also know that the moment the US decides that it has been enough there will be nothing between him and a guided bomb. Do you have any doubt that US can stop this war whenever they wish?

[be.open]

None of what you say disproves anything of what I say. If a Russian decides to sign for service, he must be aware that this is an ugly war, with many resemblances to the trench war of WWI and also know that the moment the US decides that it has been enough there will be nothing between him and a guided bomb. Do you have any doubt that US can stop this war whenever they wish?

I doubt Biden is able to find his own dick in his pants to piss.

[paxmao]

None of what you say disproves anything of what I say. If a Russian decides to sign for service, he must be aware that this is an ugly war, with many resemblances to the trench war of WWI and also know that the moment the US decides that it has been enough there will be nothing between him and a guided bomb. Do you have any doubt that US can stop this war whenever they wish?

I doubt Biden is able to find his own dick in his pants to piss.

Biden is not governing the US silly boy.

[suchmoon]

Biden is not governing the US silly boy.

Give him a break, Russia has had maybe ~10 years of not-entirely-authoritarian regime in its entire history. He doesn't know any better.

[be.open]

Biden is not governing the US silly boy.

Give him a break, Russia has had maybe ~10 years of not-entirely-authoritarian regime in its entire history. He doesn't know any better.

The problem with democracy is that it quickly degenerates into idiocracy. Look at the USA and Western Europe - this is some kind of den of homosexuals and drug addicts. Okay, Biden is an idiot senile, but his advisers and assistants are not much better. Western politicians have been shredded and turned into clowns and political prostitutes who engage in populism and lobbying for the interests of large corporations (which is veiled corruption). Don't tell me this is a good role model because it isn't.

[coolcoinz]

Calls to be honest should come from an honest person, and your brain is clouded by propaganda and it seems you perceive the projections of your internal complexes as reality.

Look who's talking! The bigot and propagandist is calling other people dishonest.

I guess we all must be abnormal, because the new normal is calling Jews antisemites and nazis, raping children, stealing refrigerators and washing machines and sending them to Russia, killing dogs and eating them, running people over with tanks, leaving your wounded to die, burying your fellow soldiers in mass graves and torturing prisoners. We are all brainwashed by the pictures of bombed cities and tanks shooting cyclists with their main gun.

The real truth is that those raped women are making it up, dead children are dolls, that cyclist was a nazi trying to attack the tank, all bombarded cities are CGI, shot down Russian planes and helicopters are repainted Ukrainian machines, all Russian tanks were destroyed by Russians so that they wouldn't fall into enemy hands and Moskva cruiser sunk because it had an accidental fire in one of its magazines.

[suchmoon]

The problem with democracy is that it quickly degenerates into idiocracy. Look at the USA and Western Europe - this is some kind of den of homosexuals and drug addicts. Okay, Biden is an idiot senile, but his advisers and assistants are not much better. Western politicians have been shredded and turned into clowns and political prostitutes who engage in populism and lobbying for the interests of large corporations (which is veiled corruption). Don't tell me this is a good role model because it isn't.

Yeah who needs freedom, it's overrated. Give peasants a five year plan and they'll steal everything that's not bolted down, drink it all away, and the TV will tell them that they live better than the rotten West.

Has Russia managed to manufacture anything more complex than a pair of socks yet (if that)? Seems like you're having trouble with everything from cars to basic food packaging.

Russia has eased safety standards for cars produced on its territory, such as dropping the requirement for airbags, after Western sanctions over the war in Ukraine caused a shortage of electronic components and car parts. In a decree signed on May 12, the Russian government announced a list of reduced requirements to certify some types of new vehicles produced in the country.

It includes the production of cars without Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) sensors, airbags or Emergency Locking Retractors (ELR) for seatbelts. The decree is in effect until February 1, 2023.

Izvestia: milk and juice producers warned of a reduction in the range

Manufacturers of dairy products and juice in Russia warned of the possibility of a reduction in the range due to a lack of aseptic packaging. This was reported by the Izvestia newspaper, citing the largest company in this field.

In other news, China doesn't want Russian-registered Boeing/Airbus planes in its airspace (those are the stolen leased planes). So cheap crap from China will also get increasingly difficult to acquire.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/27/05/2022/6290b53a9a7947300bc0fc87

Oh and before you say "railroads" - Siemens pulled train maintenance contracts so it's gonna be back to 1960s there too.

That's what Russia's "full force" looks like.

[paxmao]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

[og kush420]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

I think there are other countries involved too in destabilizing Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, Palestine.
These warlord want to the world to rule the way they want, for this they can go to any extend,Russia is not Iran and they will fight back no matter what.