Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower

[Ozero]

Judging on the development of the situation in the east and south of Ukraine - the shameful flight of the Russian army, the total destruction of "elite formations of the Russian army", and the complete demoralization of those fleeing, and the central headquarters, the question of any future of Russia can be removed! Why? It seems that soon this totally fake subject will simply cease to exist
And a lover of alternative fairy-tale reality - yes, you can continue to discuss the "greatness and power of Russia" that never existed

I just read news about the Ukranian advances today and this makes me wonder if Ukranie would try to recover Crimea as fast as possible in case they manage to clear the rest of their territory of Russian soldiers.
I am not sure whether it is true or not but I have read Crimea has become a stronghold for the separatist cells and there must be an important number of Russian Units there to protect those "Autonomous Republics" the Klemlin proclaimed not long ago.

Another potential but unlikely escenario would be Ukraine trying to return the favor to Russia and annex some land, hopefully not that would definitely scale the conflict, imo.

Russia as a great superpower is coming to an end. Its large-scale military invasion of Ukraine was a strategic mistake that will lead Russia to decline and, most likely, collapse into separate independent states. Now Putin's Russia is suffering a military defeat in Ukraine and is looking for additional weapons and mercenaries around the world, since its "second army of the world" has already been largely defeated in Ukraine. Therefore, the myth of Russia's invincibility has been debunked, and it is rapidly losing credibility even among the former Soviet republics. A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country. In Russia, there is already a corny lack of military power. Kazakhstan is already directly moving away from the influence of Russia, and among the numerous "subjects of the Russian Federation" riots and the struggle for their independence are brewing. All this should happen by the spring of next year.

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[arwin100]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country. In Russia, there is already a corny lack of military power. Kazakhstan is already directly moving away from the influence of Russia, and among the numerous "subjects of the Russian Federation" riots and the struggle for their independence are brewing. All this should happen by the spring of next year.

Russia has survived the whole EU senctions and USA too. They were trolled by their own game.
As the Russia hold the key of oil and gas -beating them is not easy - unlike Russia is not like Afghanistan, IRaq - Iran or Palestine - Russia is strong. Very strong

They are self sustaining country so even if they imposed sanction on that country Russia will still survive. The problem hits with EU because since Russia cut down the oil supply there then for sure they suffer for more expensive gas price, for this actions made by Putin for sure EU will suffer from huge inflation together with other countries who rely on Russia before.

[pooya87]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country.

There was never any need to send any forces there since the situation was and still is under control. Not to mention that Russia is technically closer to the fake country they've created not so long ago called Azerbaijan not Armenia.

[virasisog]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country. In Russia, there is already a corny lack of military power. Kazakhstan is already directly moving away from the influence of Russia, and among the numerous "subjects of the Russian Federation" riots and the struggle for their independence are brewing. All this should happen by the spring of next year.

Russia has survived the whole EU senctions and USA too. They were trolled by their own game.
As the Russia hold the key of oil and gas -beating them is not easy - unlike Russia is not like Afghanistan, IRaq - Iran or Palestine - Russia is strong. Very strong

They are self sustaining country so even if they imposed sanction on that country Russia will still survive. The problem hits with EU because since Russia cut down the oil supply there then for sure they suffer for more expensive gas price, for this actions made by Putin sure EU will suffer from huge inflation together with other countries who rely on Russia before.

Russia could handle and deal with the possible sanctions that might throw at them and they seem to prepare for this war. The whole world is also suffering because of the lack of oil supply and the situation could get worse if there will be no other big countries that will replace Russia in supplying the global oil. Russia doesn't want to intervene in the war between their neighboring countriess.

[TimeTeller]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country. In Russia, there is already a corny lack of military power. Kazakhstan is already directly moving away from the influence of Russia, and among the numerous "subjects of the Russian Federation" riots and the struggle for their independence are brewing. All this should happen by the spring of next year.

Russia has survived the whole EU senctions and USA too. They were trolled by their own game.
As the Russia hold the key of oil and gas -beating them is not easy - unlike Russia is not like Afghanistan, IRaq - Iran or Palestine - Russia is strong. Very strong

They are self sustaining country so even if they imposed sanction on that country Russia will still survive. The problem hits with EU because since Russia cut down the oil supply there then for sure they suffer for more expensive gas price, for this actions made by Putin sure EU will suffer from huge inflation together with other countries who rely on Russia before.

Russia could handle and deal with the possible sanctions that might throw at them and they seem to prepare for this war. The whole world is also suffering because of the lack of oil supply and the situation could get worse if there will be no other big countries that will replace Russia in supplying the global oil. Russia doesn't want to intervene in the war between their neighboring countriess.

But whatever is happening with this war with Ukraine, it is showing that Russia is not the superpower that they want to be.
Because if they are, this war should have ended a long time ago. I believe Russia's resources are already depleting from this war.
They may have secret cards to play with because of their oil but sooner or later, these countries relying from them will find other alternatives.
I am certain, if this war ends, it will take a heavy toll also on Russia, not only on Ukraine. This is why, there's no winner in wars.

[Sithara007]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country.

There was never any need to send any forces there since the situation was and still is under control. Not to mention that Russia is technically closer to the fake country they've created not so long ago called Azerbaijan not Armenia.

In the end, it is money that matters. Armenia has hardly any natural resources. Azerbaijan is awash with oil and gas and is very close to Turkey. Russia, under current circumstances can't pick up a war with Turkey, no matter whatever provocations that are coming from the other side. And in the end, Armenia becomes a scapegoat. A part of the blame should go to the Armenian president as well (Nikol Pashinyan). When Serzh Sargsyan was the president, he was careful not to offend the Russians. But Pashinyan tried to cozy up to the Americans and tried to play on both sides. And the Americans as usual refused to help when Azeris invaded.

[amishmanish]

In the current market dynamics , Russia is far behind in terms of industrialization and in term of production of goods or in terms of service. Fossil fuel can not remain backbone of any superpower. Recently Russia is facing serious problem in term of defence production, because of shortage of microchips, supply from usa. So you can see their dependence on their arch rival for their needs. No such country can ever become super power

[Ozero]

A landmark event was Russia's refusal of military assistance to Armenia after its military conflict with Azerbaijan and the shelling of the positions of Russian "peacekeepers" in this country.

There was never any need to send any forces there since the situation was and still is under control. Not to mention that Russia is technically closer to the fake country they've created not so long ago called Azerbaijan not Armenia.

The thesis about fake states was recently invented by Putin in order to ultimately justify the military invasion and seizure of the territory of these states. So, a few months before Putin sent his troops to Ukraine, he declared that Ukraine was an artificially created state that Lenin created after the 1917 revolution. However, Ukraine, under the name of Kievan Rus, was one of the most powerful states in Europe back in the ninth century. Its territory even covered Moscow, which in 1147 is mentioned in the Tale of Bygone Years as the village of Mokva, which belonged to one of the Kyiv princes, Yuri Dolgoruky. The other day, Moscow was just celebrating the creation of Russia, which dates back precisely to 1147. By the way, this is one of the reasons why Putin wanted to take over Ukraine. He wanted to appropriate the history of Kievan Rus as the history of today's Russia, where even the current name of Russia with the root "Rus" is not her own. Russia began to be called as such by the decrees of Tsar Peter the Great from 1721. Until that time, this state was called the Moscow kingdom or Muscovy.
Any statement about false states is simply a desire to redefine the boundaries of historically established states and justify wars of conquest in the 21st century.

[pooya87]

Not to mention that Russia is technically closer to the fake country they've created not so long ago called Azerbaijan not Armenia.

The thesis about fake states was recently invented by Putin in order to ultimately justify the military invasion and seizure of the territory of these states. So, a few months before Putin sent his troops to Ukraine, he declared that Ukraine was an artificially created state that Lenin created after the 1917 revolution.

I have never researched history of Ukraine so I'm gonna take your word for it but you obviously don't have any information about Azerbaijan history. It is indeed a fake country created by Soviets during wars between Iran and Soviet Union where they annexed part of Iran and called it the fake country of Azerbaijan.

If I want to put it in terms you understand, Azerbaijan to Iran is like the parts that Russia annexed between 2014 and 2022 (from Crimean to Donetsk, Donbas, Kharkiv, Kherson, ...). If they declare independence and name themselves a country (Donetsk republic?) that makes them a fake country.

[Ozero]

Not to mention that Russia is technically closer to the fake country they've created not so long ago called Azerbaijan not Armenia.

The thesis about fake states was recently invented by Putin in order to ultimately justify the military invasion and seizure of the territory of these states. So, a few months before Putin sent his troops to Ukraine, he declared that Ukraine was an artificially created state that Lenin created after the 1917 revolution.

I have never researched history of Ukraine so I'm gonna take your word for it but you obviously don't have any information about Azerbaijan history. It is indeed a fake country created by Soviets during wars between Iran and Soviet Union where they annexed part of Iran and called it the fake country of Azerbaijan.

If I want to put it in terms you understand, Azerbaijan to Iran is like the parts that Russia annexed between 2014 and 2022 (from Crimean to Donetsk, Donbas, Kharkiv, Kherson, ...). If they declare independence and name themselves a country (Donetsk republic?) that makes them a fake country.

The formation of Azerbaijan as a state took place a very long time ago, and in any case, it was before any actions by the Soviet Union.
The history of the formation of the statehood of Azerbaijan dates back to the III millennium BC. In the III century AD. Azerbaijan was occupied by the Iranian Sassanid Empire, and in the 7th century by the Arab Caliphate. The invaders resettled into the country a large population of Iranian and Arab origin. In the 15th - early 16th centuries, the outstanding statesman Shah Ismail Khatai (1501-1524) managed to unite all the northern and southern lands of Azerbaijan under his rule. A single centralized Azerbaijani state arose - the state of the Safavids with its capital in Tabriz. The Azerbaijani language, along with Persian, became the state language on the territory of a vast empire. As a result of successful reforms, domestic and foreign policy carried out by Shah Ismail, Shah Tahmasib, Shah Abbas and other Safavid sovereigns, the Safavid state turned into one of the most powerful empires in the Near and Middle East. However, after the death of the Azerbaijani commander Nadir Shah (1736-1747), the vast empire he ruled collapsed. And in the second half of the 18th century, Azerbaijan split into small states - khanates and sultanates.

At the end of the 18th century, the Azerbaijani Turkic Qajar dynasty (1796-1925) came to power in Iran. The Qajars began to pursue a policy aimed at subordinating to the central authority all the territories that were once under the rule of their ancestors Karakoyunlu, Akkoyunlu, Safavids and, finally, Nadir Shah, including the Azerbaijani khanates. Thus began the era of long-term wars between the Qajars and the Russian Empire, which was striving to seize the South Caucasus.

Thus, Azerbaijan turned into an arena of bloody wars between two great powers.

According to the Gulistan (1813) and Turkmenchay (1828) treaties, Azerbaijan was divided between two empires: Northern Azerbaijan was annexed to Russia, and Southern to Iran.

Thus, in the subsequent history of Azerbaijan, new concepts appeared: "Northern (or Russian) Azerbaijan" and "Southern (or Iranian) Azerbaijan".

In order to create a support and a Christian stronghold in the South Caucasus, Russia began to massively resettle the Armenian population from neighboring regions to the occupied Azerbaijani lands, in particular, the mountainous regions of Karabakh, the territories of the Erivan and Nakhichevan khanates. General Pashkevich even gave specific instructions on exactly where they should be relocated. In March 1828, the Iravan and Nakhichevan khanates of Azerbaijan were liquidated, and the so-called “Armenian region” was created on their territory for the resettled Armenians. Thus, the foundation of the future Armenian state on the lands of Azerbaijan was laid.

Here we can already see the current history of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh and, as always, the negative role of Russia in this. And Azerbaijan is definitely not a fake or artificially created state.

[Sithara007]

I have never researched history of Ukraine so I'm gonna take your word for it but you obviously don't have any information about Azerbaijan history. It is indeed a fake country created by Soviets during wars between Iran and Soviet Union where they annexed part of Iran and called it the fake country of Azerbaijan.

If I want to put it in terms you understand, Azerbaijan to Iran is like the parts that Russia annexed between 2014 and 2022 (from Crimean to Donetsk, Donbas, Kharkiv, Kherson, ...). If they declare independence and name themselves a country (Donetsk republic?) that makes them a fake country.

As far as I know, this part was annexed by Russia during the time of Russian Empire. The USSR hardly expanded territorially, and rather they lost important territories such as Finland, Xinjiang and Mongolia. Northern part of current Azerbaijan was conquered by Russia during the Russo-Persian War of 1804–1813, while the remainder (Erivan, Talysh and Naxçıvan) was annexed during the Russo-Persian War of 1826–1828. So we can say that these territories are not with Iran for the last two centuries or so.

[pooya87]

There was no need to post the "history" from a Baku sponsored website here. You are basically approving that after 1600-1700 years the Russians (I was wrong in calling it Soviets) annexed part of Iran and created that fake country which they slowly lost control over too. Not to mention 2500 years ago those regions were also part of Persia (500 years Before Christ).

Everything about it is fake too. Starting from calling them "Turks" since they are not Turks, they are Azaris which are ancient Persians with one of the oldest languages that had some similarity to Turkish (which is changed today) and is spoken in more than just the North West of current Iran. Even the name is Persian. It's a combination of "آذر" meaning Fire, a scared symbol in ancient Persia and "آبادگان" meaning location in ancient Persian.

[Sithara007]

There was no need to post the "history" from a Baku sponsored website here. You are basically approving that after 1600-1700 years the Russians (I was wrong in calling it Soviets) annexed part of Iran and created that fake country which they slowly lost control over too. Not to mention 2500 years ago those regions were also part of Persia (500 years Before Christ).

Everything about it is fake too. Starting from calling them "Turks" since they are not Turks, they are Azaris which are ancient Persians with one of the oldest languages that had some similarity to Turkish (which is changed today) and is spoken in more than just the North West of current Iran. Even the name is Persian. It's a combination of "آذر" meaning Fire, a scared symbol in ancient Persia and "آبادگان" meaning location in ancient Persian.

I am not denying these facts. I was just pointing out the fact that for two centuries North Azerbaijan is controlled by Russians and that period lasted until 1992 (when Turkey started replacing Russia as the dominant power). Until the end of 19th century, Russia was constantly expanding in the direction of Asia (adding new territories), while losing their provinces in Eastern and Central Europe. But Azeris are very close to Iranians and other neighboring peoples such as Daghestanis. And somewhere I read that more Azeris reside in Iran, when compared to the Republic of Azerbaijan.

BTW, important news coming in. Partial mobilization announced in Russia. I was expecting since their complete collapse near Kharkov. In the first phase some 300,000 reservists with past military experience will be called in.

[pooya87]

BTW, important news coming in. Partial mobilization announced in Russia. I was expecting since their complete collapse near Kharkov. In the first phase some 300,000 reservists with past military experience will be called in.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!
In any case with this mobilization I wonder if Russians are fearing to lose Kherson like Kharkiv even though the counter offensives there don't seem to be as mad or as effective. The aggression is definitely increasing on both sides anyway.

[Agbe]

Well there are two or three things that determine who will become world power. Technology, military strength and economy, if a country have the above mentioned then the country can emerged as world power. But remember if though one country becomes world power the other nations can come together and bring that country down.

If Russia can provide everything for herself when economic crisis break out, that will be nice for her. But scholars of Sociology said, nobody can live alone. Therefore, Russia will still need the association of others. When we come raw material in the world Nigeria is one of the countries that has Abundant raw materials but the world order (globalization) make her stagnant in one place that she can not do any technological invention. And when other countries combine force (raw materials) together, Russia will not... By the way I don't see any world power as of now but I only see oppression from USA and other world powers. If they are not oppressing others then they should allow other nations to produce what they want.

[Davidvictorson]

Well there are two or three things that determine who will become world power. Technology, military strength and economy, if a country have the above mentioned then the country can emerged as world power. But remember if though one country becomes world power the other nations can come together and bring that country down.

Russia will be a superpower by 2030, according to 43% of respondents to a study conducted between November and December of 2020. But 56% thought the US would be, and 59% thought China would. We are just 8 years away from 2030, and with the current turn of events Russia isn't getting there anytime soon. In my estimation, Russia would have to rely more on exporting manufactured products, such as automobiles, aircraft, smartphones, drugs, chips, etc., and less on exporting gas, oil, and weaponry. This would be effective in building the economy. Being a superpower is much more than having nukes.

[Sithara007]

BTW, important news coming in. Partial mobilization announced in Russia. I was expecting since their complete collapse near Kharkov. In the first phase some 300,000 reservists with past military experience will be called in.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!
In any case with this mobilization I wonder if Russians are fearing to lose Kherson like Kharkiv even though the counter offensives there don't seem to be as mad or as effective. The aggression is definitely increasing on both sides anyway.

Retaking Kherson won't be easy for the Ukrainians. The terrain is much less wooded and very flat. And given the asymmetrical resources in manpower, at some point Ukraine will run out of able-bodied men to wage the war. The longer the war lasts, the more difficult it will get for Ukraine. If this goes on for another 6 months, I don't expect the NATO allies to support Ukraine the way they are doing now. Winter is coming and the EU is facing popular unrest due to gas shortage. The burden of funding Ukraine will fall mostly on the United States, but there also the situation can change after the midterm elections of November 2022.

[Ozero]

BTW, important news coming in. Partial mobilization announced in Russia. I was expecting since their complete collapse near Kharkov. In the first phase some 300,000 reservists with past military experience will be called in.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!
In any case with this mobilization I wonder if Russians are fearing to lose Kherson like Kharkiv even though the counter offensives there don't seem to be as mad or as effective. The aggression is definitely increasing on both sides anyway.

It seems that the Kremlin has already come to terms with the loss of not only Kherson, but the entire right-bank part of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. Approximately 20-25 thousand of the most combat-ready Russian troops are surrounded there and pressed against the Dnieper. Russia cannot replenish this territory with either troops, equipment, or ammunition. Four bridges of probable supply were damaged by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are under constant fire control. As soon as the Russians build pontoon crossings there or try to supply their encircled troops with the help of barges, they are destroyed. With regard to the liberation of this territory in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a completely different tactic than a swift counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region. Here, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are methodically hitting accumulations of manpower and equipment, ammunition depots, and command posts. Those Russians who survive will either surrender, or swim across the Dnieper, or die during the cleansing of the territory.

Mobilization in Russia was introduced precisely because the regular Russian army has already been largely destroyed in Ukraine. Russia has already lost more than 150,000 of its troops in the wounded and killed in Ukraine. The same applies to armored vehicles and artillery. They are already running out in Russia, because they have turned into scrap metal on the territory of Ukraine or have been captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are already firing at Russians. The mobilization of the proclaimed 300,000 Russians from the reserve will not change the situation at the front, since they are not prepared for the war in Ukraine and have virtually no combat experience.

[be.open]

It seems that the Kremlin has already come to terms with the loss of not only Kherson, but the entire right-bank part of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. Approximately 20-25 thousand of the most combat-ready Russian troops are surrounded there and pressed against the Dnieper. Russia cannot replenish this territory with either troops, equipment, or ammunition. Four bridges of probable supply were damaged by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are under constant fire control. As soon as the Russians build pontoon crossings there or try to supply their encircled troops with the help of barges, they are destroyed. With regard to the liberation of this territory in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a completely different tactic than a swift counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region. Here, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are methodically hitting accumulations of manpower and equipment, ammunition depots, and command posts. Those Russians who survive will either surrender, or swim across the Dnieper, or die during the cleansing of the territory.

Mobilization in Russia was introduced precisely because the regular Russian army has already been largely destroyed in Ukraine. Russia has already lost more than 150,000 of its troops in the wounded and killed in Ukraine. The same applies to armored vehicles and artillery. They are already running out in Russia, because they have turned into scrap metal on the territory of Ukraine or have been captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are already firing at Russians. The mobilization of the proclaimed 300,000 Russians from the reserve will not change the situation at the front, since they are not prepared for the war in Ukraine and have virtually no combat experience.

LOL

Today began a referendum on the accession of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to Russia. And of course you are aware of this, so it's hard to say that you are wrong - you are just deliberately lying.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!

The riots in Iran follow the patterns from the manual "how to make a color revolution".

[pooya87]

O.T.:

The riots in Iran follow the patterns from the manual "how to make a color revolution".

That's more like another day in a 50+ year old cold war. Not to mention that color revolutions don't work in post-revolution I.R.I. People have already put aside what they were angry about 5 days ago and are protesting against the rioters (and the real enemy) in the million people march held today all around Iran.