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November 06, 2022, 02:57:21 AM
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U.S. Military Personel has entered Ukrainian soil to "inspect" military installations. I believe if any of them was killed caused by the Russian military, then that gives the U.S. military the signal to join the war.
US has always been in this war from day 0 and before that not to mention that so far in the at least a dozen US military personal have been killed inside Ukraine ever since the this war started. US simply can not get more involved than this.

Oh, and I just thought that US personnel were just going to Ukraine to train those militaries that volunteered. I haven't really heard that there are militaries coming from the US; I only heard that they are just funding it and providing some weapons. Though I also hear some speculation that there are really US soldiers there joining the Ukrainian soldiers, it hasn't been confirmed. If ever Putin knew there were US personnel there, how would Russia react? It will be more conflict, I think, since Russia doesn't want the US to get involved in their war.
The United States is not yet going to send its troops to Ukraine to help it defend its independence and repel Russia's aggression. They have stated this many times. In Ukraine, individual US citizens, on their own initiative, volunteered and fought on the side of Ukraine. Now the NATO countries are strengthening the eastern borders of their alliance, that is, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, the Baltic countries, since Russia sometimes directly threatens these states with war. This is quite logical and expected. However, NATO countries do not rule out direct military assistance to Ukraine with their troops if Russia uses nuclear, chemical, bacterological or other weapons of mass destruction on the territory of Ukraine. So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, using the help of civilized states, are themselves coping with the repulse of Russian military aggression and may well force Russia to capitulate.

Not only the US but I will say no country will provide military support to Ukraine like their own army, that will be the trigger for the third world war. I think the US and Nato understand that, they are willing to spend billions of dollars to support weapons and equipment for Ukraine, but sending troops is something that never happens. This is a war of two world extremes, not only between Russia and Nato, behind Russia also has China, North Korea, and Iran.

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November 07, 2022, 12:19:53 AM
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Definitely not. There are no winners in this war. The West simply has all the reasons to not let it happen.

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November 07, 2022, 12:11:41 PM
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U.S. Military Personel has entered Ukrainian soil to "inspect" military installations. I believe if any of them was killed caused by the Russian military, then that gives the U.S. military the signal to join the war.

US has always been in this war from day 0 and before that not to mention that so far in the at least a dozen US military personal have been killed inside Ukraine ever since the this war started. US simply can not get more involved than this.


Were those U.S. Military personel officially supposed to be in Ukraine when they were killed? Or were those actually U.S. Military? I believe those people were merely "volunteers", and merely civilians. If it was discovered by Russia/Putin that indeed U.S. Military was sent, entered, and was fighting side by side with the Ukrainian Military, then that's a true declaration of WAR.

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November 07, 2022, 12:26:43 PM
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What is considered a superpower is what it looks like, a superpower is a country that has great influence in world affairs.
and the state must be strong in military terms, especially in the economy and foreign policy and so on.
and Russia is by no means a part of it, its economy is weak and its foreign influence is not very strong and only the military aspect stands out.
a superpower that can project its influence globally, and currently, the US, China are catching up fast, and the EU stumbles in third.
I agree with you mate. Russia only controls energy and with it's strong and agressive military that is why some dependent countries suffer a slight or even worse drop in it's economy due to Russias actions. You are correct about China and the US who has the right title as superpowers as they had both strong military, energy sources, ties with different countries and other important resources to run on their own and of course make them independent.



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November 08, 2022, 03:48:20 AM
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Were those U.S. Military personel officially supposed to be in Ukraine when they were killed? Or were those actually U.S. Military? I believe those people were merely "volunteers", and merely civilians. If it was discovered by Russia/Putin that indeed U.S. Military was sent, entered, and was fighting side by side with the Ukrainian Military, then that's a true declaration of WAR.

The claim from Russia is that they are CIA instructors sent to train the Ukrainian troops on the frontline. A few maybe genuine volunteers, but there is a chance that some maybe undercover operatives. Even in Mariupol, there were reports of American undercover personal. When the city was besieged by the Russians, the Kiev regime made several suicidal attempts to evacuate these people (one or two were successful, and the helicopters were shot down in the remaining instances). Will be interesting to see how Russia would retaliate for this.

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Were those U.S. Military personel officially supposed to be in Ukraine when they were killed? Or were those actually U.S. Military? I believe those people were merely "volunteers", and merely civilians. If it was discovered by Russia/Putin that indeed U.S. Military was sent, entered, and was fighting side by side with the Ukrainian Military, then that's a true declaration of WAR.
I break it down in this comment here and there is also an example of US confessing to being involved ever since 2014 posted on US Department of Defense website.

Basically in the think tanks in US they came up with a threshold of how much help they can send Ukraine before things escalate out of hands. That includes weapons (eg. type and range of missiles given to Ukraine) to troops they deploy (covert, NCOs, etc.). That includes the number and type of military personnel that are being deployed in Ukraine. They do it as much as it remains hidden and doesn't escalate the situation while still be involved enough to prolong this proxy war.

The news of US troops being killed fighting in Ukraine sometimes come out in the mainstream media too like [1] and [2].

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/28/politics/american-killed-ukraine/index.html
[2] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/europe/joshua-jones-ukraine-russia-transfer-intl/index.html

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Were those U.S. Military personel officially supposed to be in Ukraine when they were killed? Or were those actually U.S. Military? I believe those people were merely "volunteers", and merely civilians. If it was discovered by Russia/Putin that indeed U.S. Military was sent, entered, and was fighting side by side with the Ukrainian Military, then that's a true declaration of WAR.
I break it down in this comment here and there is also an example of US confessing to being involved ever since 2014 posted on US Department of Defense website.

Basically in the think tanks in US they came up with a threshold of how much help they can send Ukraine before things escalate out of hands. That includes weapons (eg. type and range of missiles given to Ukraine) to troops they deploy (covert, NCOs, etc.). That includes the number and type of military personnel that are being deployed in Ukraine. They do it as much as it remains hidden and doesn't escalate the situation while still be involved enough to prolong this proxy war.

The news of US troops being killed fighting in Ukraine sometimes come out in the mainstream media too like [1] and [2].

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/28/politics/american-killed-ukraine/index.html
[2] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/26/europe/joshua-jones-ukraine-russia-transfer-intl/index.html


I believe Sithara007's post about Putin could be the truth. It could be U.S. Military Personnel/Special Forces who are acting under the guidance of the C.I.A. to help the Ukrainian military. Those 'personnel" don't wear the American flag, nor are they considered in an official deployment/mission. If they get caught by the enemy, the U.S. government will absolutely deny everything, and they will not do anything to help the "personnel". It's "Mission Impossible". Hahaha.

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What is considered a superpower is what it looks like, a superpower is a country that has great influence in world affairs.
and the state must be strong in military terms, especially in the economy and foreign policy and so on.
and Russia is by no means a part of it, its economy is weak and its foreign influence is not very strong and only the military aspect stands out.
a superpower that can project its influence globally, and currently, the US, China are catching up fast, and the EU stumbles in third.
I agree with you mate. Russia only controls energy and with it's strong and agressive military that is why some dependent countries suffer a slight or even worse drop in it's economy due to Russias actions. You are correct about China and the US who has the right title as superpowers as they had both strong military, energy sources, ties with different countries and other important resources to run on their own and of course make them independent.

To be fair, Russia cannot be considered a great power because Russia is not a country whose economy affects the world but militarily they deserve to be the country with the best army in the world. They are an important balance to balance the world order, without Russia and China, the US would have dominated the entire world. Like the US is doing with the EU, everything is manipulated by the US from economic to military.
The EU region, which includes Germany, Britain and France, was once considered giant, even larger than the US before World War II. But because they follow the American leadership, everything they do is managed by the US and completely dependent on the US.

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November 08, 2022, 09:32:54 AM
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What is considered a superpower is what it looks like, a superpower is a country that has great influence in world affairs.
and the state must be strong in military terms, especially in the economy and foreign policy and so on.
and Russia is by no means a part of it, its economy is weak and its foreign influence is not very strong and only the military aspect stands out.
a superpower that can project its influence globally, and currently, the US, China are catching up fast, and the EU stumbles in third.
I agree with you mate. Russia only controls energy and with it's strong and agressive military that is why some dependent countries suffer a slight or even worse drop in it's economy due to Russias actions. You are correct about China and the US who has the right title as superpowers as they had both strong military, energy sources, ties with different countries and other important resources to run on their own and of course make them independent.

To be fair, Russia cannot be considered a great power because Russia is not a country whose economy affects the world but militarily they deserve to be the country with the best army in the world. They are an important balance to balance the world order, without Russia and China, the US would have dominated the entire world. Like the US is doing with the EU, everything is manipulated by the US from economic to military.
The EU region, which includes Germany, Britain and France, was once considered giant, even larger than the US before World War II. But because they follow the American leadership, everything they do is managed by the US and completely dependent on the US.

There is a saying - if you are in a crowd of tourists and a lion suddenly attacked you, then you do not need to run faster than a lion.  

You need to run faster than the most unsportsmanlike of tourists.

Because the lion will definitely stop to catch and devour him.....

To become a superpower, it is enough for a large state simply not to make fatal mistakes.  No need to get involved in wars and other geopolitical adventures.  No need to get carried away building skyscrapers and carry out rash economic reforms.  No need to clash with the superpowers.

And this is enough to eventually become a superpower.  You just need to avoid inappropriate actions.

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To become a superpower, it is enough for a large state simply not to make fatal mistakes.  No need to get involved in wars and other geopolitical adventures.  No need to get carried away building skyscrapers and carry out rash economic reforms.  No need to clash with the superpowers.
That can only happen in an imaginary neverland not in the real world.
The moment you start growing and gaining some strength, the existing super powers will start feeling threatened even if you don't threaten their hegemony. For example why do you think United States is so afraid of China? That's only because they are economically expanding and have been successful, like eliminating the 85% absolute poverty in China in only 4 decades. Now look at the wars US has started against China over the same period (cold/soft wars and the recent threat of proxy war with Taiwan).

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To be fair, Russia cannot be considered a great power because Russia is not a country whose economy affects the world but militarily they deserve to be the country with the best army in the world. They are an important balance to balance the world order, without Russia and China, the US would have dominated the entire world. Like the US is doing with the EU, everything is manipulated by the US from economic to military.
The EU region, which includes Germany, Britain and France, was once considered giant, even larger than the US before World War II. But because they follow the American leadership, everything they do is managed by the US and completely dependent on the US.
Russia was previously really considered one of the strongest militarily and the export of weapons was one of the main sources of budget revenue. But that was before the full-scale invasion of Russian troops into Ukraine. Now all experts agree that Russian samples are ineffective and lose to Western counterparts. Such conclusions can be drawn if we analyze the use of Russian weapons in the war and countering them with Western weapons. After this analysis, the purchase of Russian weapons can only be due to a noticeable difference in price, but the price of Russian weapons is slightly lower, and sometimes higher than similar Western designs.

In addition, due to sanctions and limited access to spare parts, technologies and materials, Russia is losing the ability to produce advanced weapons even for itself. And you can forget about selling for export in such a situation. It also calls into question even the ability of Russia to secure those contracts that were earlier and to repair military equipment that was sold earlier. This certainly does not make Russia a reliable supplier.

Under these conditions, Russia is not only unable to compete with Western counterparts, but is also unable to develop and create new models of modern weapons. This means that Russia is losing the race and is automatically excluded from the group of leaders selling high-tech and effective weapons. All of the above discards the Russian Federation as a supplier to the group of consumer goods and dealers in standard weapons.

The beautiful legend about Russia as a manufacturer of highly effective and high-tech weapons burst like a soap bubble, just like the myth of the "second army of the world." And this is clearly not the last debunked myth about the greatness of Russia, which we will see. Russia turned out to be a colossus with feet of clay, with missed opportunities, wasted time and a budget plundered by Putin. The fall of this colossus is now only a matter of time. And the beginning of the process itself was laid by Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

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November 08, 2022, 05:54:50 PM
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There are so many replies so i am worried about the duplication of my words and what I am going to say may there many of the members already posted those opinions before me but let me put on my own view on it. the trend of superpower is over. Still, if you consider it then dude there are two main contenders of this race as commonly one of them is mentioned by you and the second one is China really they are the most dominant in the local market everywhere. So now the time is to end for the superpower no one is going to be the next superpower now if they even try to be then the results are going to be the stone age as there is no place for showing power now if we or they do then there is no place for us.

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To become a superpower, it is enough for a large state simply not to make fatal mistakes.  No need to get involved in wars and other geopolitical adventures.  No need to get carried away building skyscrapers and carry out rash economic reforms.  No need to clash with the superpowers.
That can only happen in an imaginary neverland not in the real world.
The moment you start growing and gaining some strength, the existing super powers will start feeling threatened even if you don't threaten their hegemony. For example why do you think United States is so afraid of China? That's only because they are economically expanding and have been successful, like eliminating the 85% absolute poverty in China in only 4 decades. Now look at the wars US has started against China over the same period (cold/soft wars and the recent threat of proxy war with Taiwan).

And this prevents China from gradually becoming a superpower? 

For China, the sanctions that were imposed against Huawei were very unpleasant.  Huawei was the leader in the production of smartphones and instantly lost this leadership.  But China's leaders are wise rulers, not flighty fools.  They did not seize Taiwan and get involved in a war with the Western world.

They understand that in order to become a superpower, you need to behave adequately. 

And as long as China's leaders behave like this, China has every chance of becoming a hegemon.

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And this prevents China from gradually becoming a superpower? 

For China, the sanctions that were imposed against Huawei were very unpleasant.  Huawei was the leader in the production of smartphones and instantly lost this leadership.  But China's leaders are wise rulers, not flighty fools.  They did not seize Taiwan and get involved in a war with the Western world.

They understand that in order to become a superpower, you need to behave adequately. 

And as long as China's leaders behave like this, China has every chance of becoming a hegemon.

You are 100% right.

While the NATO is spending their resources in the proxy war against Russia, China is silently strengthening their economy as well as armed forces. At the same time, the west is suffering form double digit inflation as a result of this proxy war. And China hasn't antagonized the west by openly siding with Russia. They have refused to provide weapons to Russia, although they rejected western demands to stop importing energy from that country. They are carefully balancing out both sides, for their own benefit.

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And this prevents China from gradually becoming a superpower? 

For China, the sanctions that were imposed against Huawei were very unpleasant.  Huawei was the leader in the production of smartphones and instantly lost this leadership.  But China's leaders are wise rulers, not flighty fools.  They did not seize Taiwan and get involved in a war with the Western world.

They understand that in order to become a superpower, you need to behave adequately. 

And as long as China's leaders behave like this, China has every chance of becoming a hegemon.
What is "behaving adequately" in your book? Is it to bend the knee and accept a national security threat right at their borders? Or all the destabilization that US is causing directly or through its proxies in their trade routes in the sea and on land? Maybe it is to accept another Opium War imposed by the West?

You are right that Chinese leaders are wise but because they didn't attack Taiwan but because they didn't attack when US wanted. They decided to do it on their terms and at the time they want.

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And this prevents China from gradually becoming a superpower?  

For China, the sanctions that were imposed against Huawei were very unpleasant.  Huawei was the leader in the production of smartphones and instantly lost this leadership.  But China's leaders are wise rulers, not flighty fools.  They did not seize Taiwan and get involved in a war with the Western world.

They understand that in order to become a superpower, you need to behave adequately.  

And as long as China's leaders behave like this, China has every chance of becoming a hegemon.
What is "behaving adequately" in your book? Is it to bend the knee and accept a national security threat right at their borders? Or all the destabilization that US is causing directly or through its proxies in their trade routes in the sea and on land? Maybe it is to accept another Opium War imposed by the West?

You are right that Chinese leaders are wise but because they didn't attack Taiwan but because they didn't attack when US wanted. They decided to do it on their terms and at the time they want.

I am very skeptical about statements that the most important thing in the interaction between peoples is “strength”.  

Who is strong is right.  The science of geopolitics, which I consider pseudoscience, is based on this postulate.  

Meanwhile, even if we study geopolitics based on the series Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, it becomes clear that it is the inadequacy of the actions of individual characters that leads to disastrous political consequences.

In the modern world, "the force that is always right" is elevated to an absolute.  

The question arises, why did law arise in the world at all?  Wouldn't it be easier to just growl and hit each other on the head with clubs?  

I am close to the approach of China, which, in response to sanctions against Huawei, began to develop the Honor brand.  Because the political elite of China thinks in stratagems, and not in a banal way - whoever is strong is right.  

And in addition to stratagems, there is also ethics, law, morality, reason, cooperation, the interests of humanity as a species, and much more.  And all this is important.

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Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

Where did you get this information? I've never heard of it and don't believe it either. Like everyone says, in today's world whoever holds the media is the winner, they are brainwashing us and we don't even know it. I do not support war because it causes pain not only for the countries involved in the war, but also for the whole world. But this war cannot not happen, cannot let the US government and their minions bully others or do whatever they think is right. Let's see who benefits the most in this battle and you'll understand, I won't argue who has the upper hand in the fight, let's wait until the final result.

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Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

Where did you get this information? I've never heard of it and don't believe it either. Like everyone says, in today's world whoever holds the media is the winner, they are brainwashing us and we don't even know it. I do not support war because it causes pain not only for the countries involved in the war, but also for the whole world. But this war cannot not happen, cannot let the US government and their minions bully others or do whatever they think is right. Let's see who benefits the most in this battle and you'll understand, I won't argue who has the upper hand in the fight, let's wait until the final result.


There's probably some disinformation campaign going on by NATO, and its allies. They usually do that to demoralize the enemy, but if you look at Russia's propaganda, they will have some disinformation of their own, and say themselves that they are "winning". Real "Winning", from the people's viewpoint, is attained and reached ONLY through diplomacy and peaceful resolutions.

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"Heroically", leaving the right bank of Kherson in a panic, the "second army of the world" shamefully, but expectedly, loses another battle. The battle for the region, which is a miserable breed for the leader, through clowning "introduced into Russia" Smiley Now they cowardly run away from there, inventing excuses for themselves. It turns out, like everything from Russia, very idiotic. Of course, this is the behavior of the best contender for the title of "future superpower."
It seems that soon the most fetid formation of the name of the Russian Federation will not remain on the map of the earth!
But, let's play in the show "Russia is a possible future world leader"  Grin Grin Grin

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Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

Where did you get this information? I've never heard of it and don't believe it either. Like everyone says, in today's world whoever holds the media is the winner, they are brainwashing us and we don't even know it. I do not support war because it causes pain not only for the countries involved in the war, but also for the whole world. But this war cannot not happen, cannot let the US government and their minions bully others or do whatever they think is right. Let's see who benefits the most in this battle and you'll understand, I won't argue who has the upper hand in the fight, let's wait until the final result.

Russia losing 900 troops per day is not even possible. They only have around 160,000 regular troops in Ukraine and on top of that there maybe another 40,000 allied troops. Losing close to a thousand soldiers every day should force them to stop their campaign in a month or so. And only around 20% of the reserve troops who have been recently called up have reached Ukraine. The remainder (80%) are still in Russia, going through various training programs. If the Russians were that desperate, they would immediately shift these troops to Ukraine.

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