Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower

[be.open]

O.T.:

The riots in Iran follow the patterns from the manual "how to make a color revolution".

That's more like another day in a 50+ year old cold war. Not to mention that color revolutions don't work in post-revolution I.R.I. People have already put aside what they were angry about 5 days ago and are protesting against the rioters (and the real enemy) in the million people march held today all around Iran.

They don't work anywhere.

But there is simply no other manual for supporters to bring the light of democracy to countries with the wrong authoritarian regime.

[1714711914]

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[DrBeer]

BTW, important news coming in. Partial mobilization announced in Russia. I was expecting since their complete collapse near Kharkov. In the first phase some 300,000 reservists with past military experience will be called in.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!
In any case with this mobilization I wonder if Russians are fearing to lose Kherson like Kharkiv even though the counter offensives there don't seem to be as mad or as effective. The aggression is definitely increasing on both sides anyway.

Retaking Kherson won't be easy for the Ukrainians. The terrain is much less wooded and very flat. And given the asymmetrical resources in manpower, at some point Ukraine will run out of able-bodied men to wage the war. The longer the war lasts, the more difficult it will get for Ukraine. If this goes on for another 6 months, I don't expect the NATO allies to support Ukraine the way they are doing now. Winter is coming and the EU is facing popular unrest due to gas shortage. The burden of funding Ukraine will fall mostly on the United States, but there also the situation can change after the midterm elections of November 2022.

A month ago, you generally said that Ukraine is losing, that a terrorist country is easily and naturally seizing new territories, and so on. from Russian propaganda Today, in a matter of weeks, the Armed Forces of Ukraine defeated and destroyed the largest Russian grouping in the Kharkov region. For example, the "second army of the world" took Severodonetsk for 2 months, with huge losses. Someone threw fakes that Bakhmut had already been taken As a result, in 2 WEEKS, the Armed Forces of Ukraine liberated a huge territory, the army of terrorists suffered indescribable losses in both manpower and equipment. At the same time, Russia launched its Lend-Lease - and "transferred" to the Armed Forces of Ukraine more than a hundred pieces of heavy equipment, thousands of tons of ammunition
Kherson is a matter of time, but it will be freed from the "brown plague" of rashiZm.
You probably know that the bald Kremlin ass, in hysterics, announced mobilization for the "victorious army of Russia" The task is, according to the classic Russian habit, to try to "throw the enemy with meat" of their citizens. To contain the APU in some areas. Most likely in areas where clown "referendums" are held. But that won't help. The result will be the same - just an increase in the production of plastic bags for packing mobilized Russians to send home for the New Year

[Mauser]

Russia is getting pushed back right now in Ukraine, there is no way that Russia can still conquer the whole of Ukraine. The chance to win the war outright is over, Western countries send too many weapons into Ukraine. At the moment it looks like a stalemate, Ukraine can't liberate all the teritority, and Russia can't conquer all. Eventually the two countries will have to start with peace negotiations. And Russia can't be the world dominant superpower if they are struggling in Ukraine so much. The only two superpowers in the near future will be USA and China. The dilemma Russia faces is that their equipment is much older than the one Ukraine is using. The average Ukrainian soldier is better equipped than its Russian counterpart and the new mobilisation is not going to help with that. On top of that are the sanctions from Western countries that hinders Russia to use state of the art technology. I don't think it's realistic to look at Russia as the next dominant super power.

[DrBeer]

Russia is getting pushed back right now in Ukraine, there is no way that Russia can still conquer the whole of Ukraine. The chance to win the war outright is over, Western countries send too many weapons into Ukraine. At the moment it looks like a stalemate, Ukraine can't liberate all the teritority, and Russia can't conquer all. Eventually the two countries will have to start with peace negotiations. And Russia can't be the world dominant superpower if they are struggling in Ukraine so much. The only two superpowers in the near future will be USA and China. The dilemma Russia faces is that their equipment is much older than the one Ukraine is using. The average Ukrainian soldier is better equipped than its Russian counterpart and the new mobilisation is not going to help with that. On top of that are the sanctions from Western countries that hinders Russia to use state of the art technology. I don't think it's realistic to look at Russia as the next dominant super power.

 

Ukraine over the past month has liberated vast territories from Nazi terrorists. Solats of the Russian army die in huge numbers or cowardly run away from their positions, throwing weapons, ammunition, some even lose their anal plugs )) The latter is not a joke, there are very cool photos from one base organized by Russian troops who left it in a hurry, google , understand what I mean!

Well, to visualize reality - below is an interactive map of military operations, with the ability to watch the situation at the front in dynamics. Updated data is updated every day. Look at the dynamics of the liberation, and it will become clear to you why a huge number of future corpses have begun to be mobilized in Russia now

https://deepstatemap.live/#6/49.438/32.053

[Ozero]

It seems that the Kremlin has already come to terms with the loss of not only Kherson, but the entire right-bank part of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. Approximately 20-25 thousand of the most combat-ready Russian troops are surrounded there and pressed against the Dnieper. Russia cannot replenish this territory with either troops, equipment, or ammunition. Four bridges of probable supply were damaged by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are under constant fire control. As soon as the Russians build pontoon crossings there or try to supply their encircled troops with the help of barges, they are destroyed. With regard to the liberation of this territory in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a completely different tactic than a swift counter-offensive in the Kharkiv region. Here, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are methodically hitting accumulations of manpower and equipment, ammunition depots, and command posts. Those Russians who survive will either surrender, or swim across the Dnieper, or die during the cleansing of the territory.

Mobilization in Russia was introduced precisely because the regular Russian army has already been largely destroyed in Ukraine. Russia has already lost more than 150,000 of its troops in the wounded and killed in Ukraine. The same applies to armored vehicles and artillery. They are already running out in Russia, because they have turned into scrap metal on the territory of Ukraine or have been captured by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are already firing at Russians. The mobilization of the proclaimed 300,000 Russians from the reserve will not change the situation at the front, since they are not prepared for the war in Ukraine and have virtually no combat experience.

LOL

Today began a referendum on the accession of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to Russia. And of course you are aware of this, so it's hard to say that you are wrong - you are just deliberately lying.

Yeah, things are happening too fast some days that I fall behind the news. I'm still in the shock of that severed head of that women carried around by that Azerbaijani soldier in the recent clash!

The riots in Iran follow the patterns from the manual "how to make a color revolution".

The fact that the so-called "referendums" on the possibility of joining Russia began in the occupied territories of Ukraine does not mean that Moscow has not come to terms with the future loss of the occupied parts of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. In Russia, they always said one thing, thought another, and did a third. The military leadership of Russia, given the critical situation of the occupiers in these areas, suggested that Putin leave Kherson in an organized manner in order to preserve personnel and military equipment. Putin refused to do so. How - such a commander cannot give the order to retreat. And it will also be difficult to call it another gesture of goodwill. Instead, the State Duma increased the criminal punishment for surrender to ten years in prison, since in the encircled regions of the Kherson region, entire Russian units began to contact the Armed Forces of Ukraine via mobile communications and negotiate the terms of surrender. Therefore, Putmn left the 20,000th Russian grouping only to die ingloriously on the territory of Ukraine.

I remember that you claimed that Russia is conducting a "special operation" on the territory of Ukraine, because it does not mobilize the population and only the regular army is fighting. Now the regular army on the territory of Ukraine is already ending, therefore, from September 21, the mobilization of reservists has been officially announced in Russia. Martial law is introduced in many regions of Russia. So maybe Russia is already waging a war against Ukraine, and not a "special operation"?

And the last. Do you consider as a referendum the order in which the so-called commissions, accompanied by armed military men, go around residential buildings, threaten to break down the doors if they do not open them and force them at gunpoint, without any observers and without secrecy of voting, to put a "tick" in the required box on the form who reproduced with the help of a photocopier without any signs of strict accountability and without tear-off coupons? And if there are no family members, then they are forced to vote for them? Moreover, the presence of a passport is not necessary, because "we already know you"? They even show on TV how Pushilin votes among some garages in the rain and without any ballot boxes? Here, everything that could be violated is defiantly violated. But Russia doesn't care about that either. They already have ready figures in excess of 90 percent that the population has voted in the right direction.

[pooya87]

But there is simply no other manual for supporters to bring the light of democracy to countries with the wrong authoritarian regime.

In a way they already shoved democracy down our throats in day one of the revolution which is why Iran is a "Republic" instead of a full Theocracy/Monarchy which is the source of majority of our problems.

Anyway the aftermath has been pretty funny in the past couple of days. If you read the US media it gives you the feeling that there is a civil war going on in Iran. I even read an article last night on NewYorkTimes that was saying the cities have fallen ROFL.
The riots lasted 2 days (they ended on Wednesday, ie. 3 days before the NYT article), I even called my friend living in one of those "fallen cities" and he laughed his ass off about it.

They've gotten too desperate which is pretty funny. On social media they've been posting videos that are not even from Iran, in one of them if you paid attention they were speaking English which I think was from protests in Canada in January.

Speaking of propaganda here is the tip of the iceberg Stanford University in California found about the biggest propaganda campaign that the United States regime has been running:
https://stacks.stanford.edu/file/druid:nj914nx9540/unheard-voice-tt.pdf

[Wind_FURY]

Shower thought. The United States of America is letting Russia spend itself to failure, like they did to the U.S.S.R during the cold war. The U.S. will not engage in an open war against Russia because there would simply be no need for it.

A simple example would be, advanced parts for Russian military equipment like tanks will be hard to find with them sanctioned by the West. If they import them from China, it will be "Made in China", and it will never be as good as their European and American counterparts, placing them in a disadvantage.

[DrBeer]

And the last. Do you consider as a referendum the order in which the so-called commissions, accompanied by armed military men, go around residential buildings, threaten to break down the doors if they do not open them and force them at gunpoint, without any observers and without secrecy of voting, to put a "tick" in the required box on the form who reproduced with the help of a photocopier without any signs of strict accountability and without tear-off coupons? And if there are no family members, then they are forced to vote for them? Moreover, the presence of a passport is not necessary, because "we already know you"? They even show on TV how Pushilin votes among some garages in the rain and without any ballot boxes? Here, everything that could be violated is defiantly violated. But Russia doesn't care about that either. They already have ready figures in excess of 90 percent that the population has voted in the right direction.

In fact, holding such fake referendums by Russia only plays into the hands of Ukraine. And other countries, such as China. Russia has created a precedent that everyone will now refer to when acting on the territories of Russia. For example, Ukraine thus "legally" in relation to Russia can regain the Kuban, Taganrog and other Ukrainian regions stolen by Russia in the 20th century. China - the primordially Chinese fastened regions of the Trans-Urals ... Then it will be useless for the Russians to squeal, the answer will be simple - come on, it's honest, you YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGED IT

[be.open]

In fact, holding such fake referendums by Russia only plays into the hands of Ukraine. And other countries, such as China. Russia has created a precedent that everyone will now refer to when acting on the territories of Russia. For example, Ukraine thus "legally" in relation to Russia can regain the Kuban, Taganrog and other Ukrainian regions stolen by Russia in the 20th century. China - the primordially Chinese fastened regions of the Trans-Urals ... Then it will be useless for the Russians to squeal, the answer will be simple - come on, it's honest, you YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGED IT

The precedent was in Kosovo. Then Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Within a week, I think the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will also become part of Russia. Your fantasies about the Kuban and Taganrog are empty and groundless.

[DrBeer]

In fact, holding such fake referendums by Russia only plays into the hands of Ukraine. And other countries, such as China. Russia has created a precedent that everyone will now refer to when acting on the territories of Russia. For example, Ukraine thus "legally" in relation to Russia can regain the Kuban, Taganrog and other Ukrainian regions stolen by Russia in the 20th century. China - the primordially Chinese fastened regions of the Trans-Urals ... Then it will be useless for the Russians to squeal, the answer will be simple - come on, it's honest, you YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGED IT

The precedent was in Kosovo. Then Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Within a week, I think the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will also become part of Russia. Your fantasies about the Kuban and Taganrog are empty and groundless.

Yes ? 
And tell me - Kosovo became part of the United States? Germany? Here are all the Russians - a lie as the meaning of life, to lie primitively and always, to replace the essence and LIE. Let me remind you once again - it works among Russians, but not among adequate people
Kosovo left Yugoslavia and became an independent state. But it did not enter the territory of Serbia and by military means, violating the law, it was captured! Montenegro, for example, did not enter Kosovo either and did not capture it, introducing it into its composition with an illegitimate fake pseudo-referendum. Do you feel the difference? I'm sure - you know, but you are habitually lying, habitually trying to justify the crimes of rashism. Nothing, it won't last long

[globalpain]

Russia is getting pushed back right now in Ukraine, there is no way that Russia can still conquer the whole of Ukraine. The chance to win the war outright is over, Western countries send too many weapons into Ukraine. At the moment it looks like a stalemate, Ukraine can't liberate all the teritority, and Russia can't conquer all. Eventually the two countries will have to start with peace negotiations. And Russia can't be the world dominant superpower if they are struggling in Ukraine so much. The only two superpowers in the near future will be USA and China. The dilemma Russia faces is that their equipment is much older than the one Ukraine is using. The average Ukrainian soldier is better equipped than its Russian counterpart and the new mobilisation is not going to help with that. On top of that are the sanctions from Western countries that hinders Russia to use state of the art technology. I don't think it's realistic to look at Russia as the next dominant super power.

 

Ukraine over the past month has liberated vast territories from Nazi terrorists. Solats of the Russian army die in huge numbers or cowardly run away from their positions, throwing weapons, ammunition, some even lose their anal plugs )) The latter is not a joke, there are very cool photos from one base organized by Russian troops who left it in a hurry, google , understand what I mean!

Well, to visualize reality - below is an interactive map of military operations, with the ability to watch the situation at the front in dynamics. Updated data is updated every day. Look at the dynamics of the liberation, and it will become clear to you why a huge number of future corpses have begun to be mobilized in Russia now

https://deepstatemap.live/#6/49.438/32.053

ukraine has gained so much sympathy of the world esp the EU and USA
Now - EU is in trouble and so is USA - and so is the whole world suffering with inflation
Thank you EU, USA, Russia and Ukraine for creating all the mess in the world

I think that form of sympathy has been there since the beginning where when the war happened,
Currently, inflation is indeed a global issue because almost the whole world is experiencing inflation.
this is not easy and hopefully we can all get through this

[cabron]

In fact, holding such fake referendums by Russia only plays into the hands of Ukraine. And other countries, such as China. Russia has created a precedent that everyone will now refer to when acting on the territories of Russia. For example, Ukraine thus "legally" in relation to Russia can regain the Kuban, Taganrog and other Ukrainian regions stolen by Russia in the 20th century. China - the primordially Chinese fastened regions of the Trans-Urals ... Then it will be useless for the Russians to squeal, the answer will be simple - come on, it's honest, you YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGED IT

The precedent was in Kosovo. Then Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Within a week, I think the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will also become part of Russia. Your fantasies about the Kuban and Taganrog are empty and groundless.

Yes ? 
And tell me - Kosovo became part of the United States? Germany? Here are all the Russians - a lie as the meaning of life, to lie primitively and always, to replace the essence and LIE. Let me remind you once again - it works among Russians, but not among adequate people
Kosovo left Yugoslavia and became an independent state. But it did not enter the territory of Serbia and by military means, violating the law, it was captured! Montenegro, for example, did not enter Kosovo either and did not capture it, introducing it into its composition with an illegitimate fake pseudo-referendum. Do you feel the difference? I'm sure - you know, but you are habitually lying, habitually trying to justify the crimes of rashism. Nothing, it won't last long

More people there actually prefers to be part of Russia.
But anyway as fake as you may say. The referendum is for these region to be part of Russia. It doesn't matter if Ukraine or anyone else will not recognize them as long as Russia recognize it. Thus attacking these regions once again by Ukrainians using the weapons supplied by Germans or US will make it an attack to Russia.

And with that, they have every right to respond.

[be.open]

In fact, holding such fake referendums by Russia only plays into the hands of Ukraine. And other countries, such as China. Russia has created a precedent that everyone will now refer to when acting on the territories of Russia. For example, Ukraine thus "legally" in relation to Russia can regain the Kuban, Taganrog and other Ukrainian regions stolen by Russia in the 20th century. China - the primordially Chinese fastened regions of the Trans-Urals ... Then it will be useless for the Russians to squeal, the answer will be simple - come on, it's honest, you YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGED IT

The precedent was in Kosovo. Then Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Within a week, I think the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will also become part of Russia. Your fantasies about the Kuban and Taganrog are empty and groundless.

Yes ? 
And tell me - Kosovo became part of the United States? Germany? Here are all the Russians - a lie as the meaning of life, to lie primitively and always, to replace the essence and LIE. Let me remind you once again - it works among Russians, but not among adequate people
Kosovo left Yugoslavia and became an independent state. But it did not enter the territory of Serbia and by military means, violating the law, it was captured! Montenegro, for example, did not enter Kosovo either and did not capture it, introducing it into its composition with an illegitimate fake pseudo-referendum. Do you feel the difference? I'm sure - you know, but you are habitually lying, habitually trying to justify the crimes of rashism. Nothing, it won't last long

As a result of the referendum, Kosovo gained independence, using the right of the nation to self-determination, which is one of the clauses of the UN Charter.

In the same UN Charter there is another clause aimed at protecting the territorial integrity of any state. These two points at times and places directly contradict each other. Life, too, is sometimes contradictory, as is this legal conflict.

[Ozero]

As a result of the referendum, Kosovo gained independence, using the right of the nation to self-determination, which is one of the clauses of the UN Charter.

In the same UN Charter there is another clause aimed at protecting the territorial integrity of any state. These two points at times and places directly contradict each other. Life, too, is sometimes contradictory, as is this legal conflict.

After the announcement in Russia of mobilization for the war in Ukraine, almost everyone was outraged by this decision. Because the war from the TV screen began to enter the homes of every Russian. The peoples and nationalities of the Caucasus and the Far East are especially outraged by this, where the coffins from Ukraine came most of all. The tactics of the Russians are becoming obvious - to send more to the war and exterminate the indigenous peoples that are part of the Russian Federation, so that later it would be easy to suppress discontent there. Therefore, mass protests and disobedience are already taking place in Degestan, and Yakutia is rising behind it. I am sure that this will also happen in most other nationalities of the Russian Federation, who will demand independence.
How, in this case, will Russia recognize their right to self-determination, or will it only recognize this in neighboring states, in its own will it pour blood on the dissatisfied?

[DrBeer]

ukraine has gained so much sympathy of the world esp the EU and USA
Now - EU is in trouble and so is USA - and so is the whole world suffering with inflation
Thank you EU, USA, Russia and Ukraine for creating all the mess in the world

I'll be honest - you have a strange logic. What is the fault of the crisis, the EU and the US? And even more so Ukraine?
Tell me - if you put your hand in a pot of bubbling boiling water - will they be guilty: suppliers of water, electricity / gas, doctors who will save your scalded hand? According to your logic, it is. The objective reality is that RUSSIA unleashed a terrorist war against Ukraine, before that it did economic terrorist attacks against the EU (gas shutdowns the winter before last - forgot?). And only Russia, the country of a terrorist, you can "thank" for what followed after the war she started in Europe.

[Wind_FURY]

For be.open, and all the people who are currently living inside Russia.

Impressive photo from protest in Russia against mobilisation. The victory of Ukraine will give a chance for democratic future of Russia as well. That’s why my Russian colleagues who suffered from putin’s regime for years told me: “If you want to help us, please, be successful”.



https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1574128907300708352

Is the protests against the Russian government's decision for mobilisation true? Is it growing in support? Or is it merely another form of propaganda for the people outside of Russia to believe that something "important" is actually happening?

I can see just one person in the picture, with any protests in the background. Plus she looks "too beautiful" with make up?

[Sithara007]

Is the protests against the Russian government's decision for mobilisation true? Is it growing in support? Or is it merely another form of propaganda for the people outside of Russia to believe that something "important" is actually happening?

I can see just one person in the picture, with any protests in the background. Plus she looks "too beautiful" with make up?

Obviously when such massive number of people are being mobilized (reports range from 300,000 to 1,000,000 reserve soldiers being called up), there will be widespread protests. But they are not at a level where the authorities will be concerned. In general, it looks as if a majority of those who are called up are reporting to the enlistment centers. And this is the reason why the Russian government is not making any attempts to stop people from fleeing across the border to Kazakhstan, Georgia, Finland and Turkey.

[cryptomaxsun]

The precedent was in Kosovo. Then Russia annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Within a week, I think the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions will also become part of Russia. Your fantasies about the Kuban and Taganrog are empty and groundless.

Kuban will become Ukrainian territory in no more than 3 years.
It would be foolish and naive to doubt it.

[Sithara007]

Kuban will become Ukrainian territory in no more than 3 years.
It would be foolish and naïve to doubt it.

Yeah.. sure.. Ukrainian population has decreased from approx. 52 million in 1992 to around 35 million as of now. They have already lost more than 20% of the territory from the pre-1992 borders till now and are on course to lose even more. And still dreaming about conquering the Kuban region. Forget about Kuban becoming Ukrainian territory in 3 years. It will be "foolish and naïve" to think that Ukraine will even exist by 2025. Winter warfare will obviously give an advantage to Russia, but I don't want to predict much at this point.

[Wind_FURY]

Is the protests against the Russian government's decision for mobilisation true? Is it growing in support? Or is it merely another form of propaganda for the people outside of Russia to believe that something "important" is actually happening?

I can see just one person in the picture, with any protests in the background. Plus she looks "too beautiful" with make up?

Obviously when such massive number of people are being mobilized (reports range from 300,000 to 1,000,000 reserve soldiers being called up), there will be widespread protests. But they are not at a level where the authorities will be concerned. In general, it looks as if a majority of those who are called up are reporting to the enlistment centers. And this is the reason why the Russian government is not making any attempts to stop people from fleeing across the border to Kazakhstan, Georgia, Finland and Turkey.

Are you from, or living in Russia? I truly want to know how "widespread" the protests against the mobilisation are, and if there's truly an anti-war "feeling" among ordinary people and plebs like you and me. It's also important to know if it's growing, or if it's just propaganda spreading in the internet.