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May 27, 2022, 01:46:26 PM
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Russia being the next superpower is undoubtedly an unrealistic expectation happen. One fact, I was thinking they would crush Ukraine as soon as they invaded the country but today , Russia is losing men and their fighting gadgets in numbers.

Have we thought of China ? Currently China is not a push over in military strength we all know this and by ranking they are third in the world after India (that is 4th) and before Russia that is 2nd to USA. China has built neighbours and aligns that can support her during any incursion and she has huge population herself with 2,185,000 active personal by estimation, 4,750 tanks, 3,260 aircraft, 777 warships. Recently, they have not had major war fare to prosecute so properly they could have more weapon than is in public eyes. Russia isn't taking over as number superpower IMO.

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May 27, 2022, 03:34:22 PM
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Russia is trying to make the whole world remove the sanctions by preventing them from getting any food supplies from Ukraine as a whole and apparently according to the news the world only has 10 weeks to save themselves of hunger. This has created a gap in not just Europe but other nearby places as well, Slovakia is also asking help in advance because they think they might be the next to get attacked.

The Russia ruble is somehow doing good in the market but at the same time they have made enemy of each and every country that there is except the ones which are benefiting from this war. Therefore sooner or later they are going to loose this power that they think they have and other countries might also try and stop them so them being a superpower is not an option.

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May 27, 2022, 04:08:18 PM
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From my point of view, as long as Joe Biden was president of the US, it was not as scary as when the US was led by Donald Trump. You know Trump will challenge China and Russia even more if he dares to play around. The politics of the three great world powers: the US, Russia, and China, are relentless, but the victims are those who do not want war at all.

The world economy, we all know that the greater supply of needs is dominated by China, as evidenced by some goods around us that we often encounter and all of them are almost labeled from China. The economic principle that the US has not been able to do until now is copying expensive goods. That's because the US strengthens originality in exporting an item.

Russia, the country that currently poses the most fearsome threat of war, has an alliance with North Korea as if the formation of its power would certainly make the US think twice. China is fine with Russia and agrees that if the US dares to pose a dangerous threat, the two countries will stand taller.

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May 27, 2022, 04:55:52 PM
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If global markets are devastated by a crisis, russia is (in my opinion) the number #1 prospect to emerge as the next dominant superpower.

To avoid this, I think the united states would do well to keep its economy strong. As a hedge against russian encroachment. There isn't much alternative deterrent.

While russia's invasion of ukraine has stalled. Russia isn't trying very hard. They don't have to. They simply have to wait for the next big economic crisis when free money and support thrown at ukraine can no longer be funded. Then resistance may well crumble.

I don't think the U.S. is in a position to keep its economy strong, but neither is China. Russia won't enter the mix unless they increase their GDP. Their nuclear weapons count is the only reason that they remain a player on the global stage.

On that note, the economic crisis looming within China and the U.S. will cause Russia's economy to suffer too. The sanctions will look like nothing in comparison. The likelihood of the U.S. and China recovering their economy quicker than any other country seems like the most probable.
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May 28, 2022, 10:29:28 AM
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Russia being the next superpower is undoubtedly an unrealistic expectation happen. One fact, I was thinking they would crush Ukraine as soon as they invaded the country but today , Russia is losing men and their fighting gadgets in numbers.

Have we thought of China ? Currently China is not a push over in military strength we all know this and by ranking they are third in the world after India (that is 4th) and before Russia that is 2nd to USA. China has built neighbours and aligns that can support her during any incursion and she has huge population herself with 2,185,000 active personal by estimation, 4,750 tanks, 3,260 aircraft, 777 warships. Recently, they have not had major war fare to prosecute so properly they could have more weapon than is in public eyes. Russia isn't taking over as number superpower IMO.
If we are talking about military power, USA has the biggest one and they do not have any competition in that regard, china or Russia or even both of them together do not get even close to it. We need to realize that they are spending about 800 billion a year on military, that is bigger than next 25 nations combined.

This is why I believe that we should not be considering any military threat to be too real, look at Ukraine situation, USA didn't even participated, they just gave them billions in help, and gadgets and that alone was enough to push Russia back by Ukrainians. Superpower doesn't happen that easily, whoever has the biggest budget, and liked by the world, is the one that will be superpower.

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Last edit: May 28, 2022, 12:26:33 PM by Hydrogen
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Quite a few of the facts are wrong and quite a few of the conclusions:

- UK was not bombed to the stone age in any manner.



Here is a map illustrating 32,000 air raids the UK sustained during World War II.



Image link:  https://i.ibb.co/SBvHDsr/uk-wwii-bombings.jpg

Source: http://www.warstateandsociety.com/Bombing-Britain


Have we thought of China ?


China and its allies carry large amounts of debt which could take years or even decades to resolve.



Let me reply with another question, why no Canada or Australia?


Canada and australia are generally regressive and anti progress.

Example, australia's internet infrastructure was ranked 46th in the world in 2012:

In some ways australia's tech infrastructure, science and engineering sectors are languishing behind 3rd world nations. The same can be said of canada.

While australia's debt situation isn't too bad, canada's debt to GDP ratio is greater than 100%, which is not great.



Russia has the same advantages as the USSR but on a lower scale



The USSR could not develop cutting edge technology without stealing it from an outside source.

Russia today being able to develop cutting edge tech like hypersonic missiles is a huge advantage over what the USSR enjoyed.

The main deficiency of russia in the modern era is it lacks the powerful allies and financial backers the USSR had to make it relevant.

Population and similar metrics don't really factor in IMO.
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On the plus side if russia is the next dominant superpower they may be bitcoin friendly. At least that would be one positive thing we might look forward to in the horror show that could be the future.


It will be positive, possibly for a while. A government will always be Bitcoin-friendly only if it's necessary. But if its own people within the country start using Bitcoin for their own purposes that also require censorship-resistance/self-sovereignty, I believe the "friendliness" will turn into hostility towards Bitcoin.

There's also another example of this kind "friendliness". United States government to ease energy sanctions on Venezela. Why? Because it's necessary. Hahaha.

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The Biden administration will begin to ease some energy sanctions on Venezuela to encourage ongoing political discussions between President Nicolas Maduro and the opposition, two senior administration officials told CNN.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/17/politics/us-sanctions-venezuela-eased/index.html


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May 28, 2022, 04:42:04 PM
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I don't really see how Russia could rise to become the dominate superpower any time soon. The Russia Ukraine war has negative effects on the whole world and in particular on Russia. It's just a matter of time for the sanctions from the West to hit the Russian economy. Global trade is important for any nation, and being left out will have negative implications. One big aspect is the missing access to technologies. Russia will struggle to get access again to all the technologies Western countries use. Another issue is the reduction of energy imports from Russia. It's just a matter of time for European countries to use alternative energy sources. All this will hurt Russia and they will fall behind China and the West in terms of economic growth.
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May 28, 2022, 06:31:03 PM
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They could try, they have been pretty powerful for many decades now, at least around 70 years if not more. So I am pretty sure that they would still be good, the world war two was in 1940's and thats 80 years ago and they were quite important on beating Nazis, much bigger impact that USA that came in very late when Nazis already started to fall back from Russia. All in all, Russia could stay as a powerful nation, disliked and hated because of how terrible they treat the whole world, including themselves as well, and wished upon to be a better nation without Putin but whoever they find usually ends up like him anyway.

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May 28, 2022, 07:22:58 PM
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Let me ask a very simple question. But first, a little introduction. What is a superpower? The largest in area? Hardly. Maybe a country with a large population? Also no. Or maybe this is the country that has the most, for example, deposits of granite or peat or coal? Definitely not... Hmm... But what makes a country a SUPERPOWER!?
I will give my opinion. A superpower is a set of characteristics that includes:
1. The economic strength of the country. In relation to other market players. The dependence of other countries on the economy of this country. Financial dependency. The ability of the country to solve its financial problems or to continue its full existence even in a difficult economic situation caused by third-party stressful situations.
2. Political world "weight". The ability to influence global and local processes (inside and outside the country). The respect or compulsion of other countries to comply with the political requests of this country.
3. Definitely - technological maturity. In the largest possible areas - military, medical, agricultural, banking, and many others.
4. Army. Quality, equipment, technology, modern weapons, motivation of soldiers, the ability of the military-industrial complex to work in difficult conditions and the ability to meet the demand of the army in the event of a global military conflict, a system of defense measures and decisions, training of the civilian population, ....
5. Education
6. Medicine
7. ....
Here you can add many more criteria, maybe I missed something from the most important ones.

And the actual question, or rather 2:
1. Do you agree with such a selection of criteria (I repeat once again - most likely not all are listed here, but the most significant, in my opinion), to assess compliance with the status of a "superpower"

If yes:
2. "What side" can Russia get here?
If not:
2. Describe your criteria that correspond to the status of "superpower"?

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Too soon to say this, I think this act of Russia will obviously shake and challenge the overall dominance of the US as a superpower for once but will it immediately make Russia the new superpower is too quick to say this. I believe this might start a new cold war just in the same way as it did back after world war 2 the concept won't be capitalism or socialism this time but the opponents might be the same, US and NATO on one side while Russia, China on the other side. Then this war might go on for pretty long in a undercover manner.
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Russia currently occupies that position as the next or should i say second World power ayer US although not officially accorded but, one could be left to think that. Using therr previous state of affairs to speculate if they could press on to being dominant as world power after US, that is hard to say now due to what the on going going war is taking out of them. Of course, the war got them testing there guts and the pretty much have the answer as to how the are feared by most nations, even the US inclusive. That's the more reason why the US and NATO although not directly involved in the war, looks towards what strings they could pull to weaken Russia in all ramifications. Hence, being wolrd power after the war would take such a longer time or perhaps, it would be a spot just reserved for America.

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Too soon to say this, I think this act of Russia will obviously shake and challenge the overall dominance of the US as a superpower for once but will it immediately make Russia the new superpower is too quick to say this. I believe this might start a new cold war just in the same way as it did back after world war 2 the concept won't be capitalism or socialism this time but the opponents might be the same, US and NATO on one side while Russia, China on the other side. Then this war might go on for pretty long in a undercover manner.

because of this war, i am now not thinking that russia as the next dominant superpower. if they are, they should have conquered ukraine much earlier. but they couldn't. it is now taking months and it seems russia is now losing grip. so next superpower? that i doubt. if russia is taking this long just to get ukraine, a small country with very limited resources, how much more if they will invade other progressive countries? we are now seeing the real capability of russia because of this war, and it is far from being superpower, that's my opinion though.

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because of this war, i am now not thinking that russia as the next dominant superpower. if they are, they should have conquered ukraine much earlier. but they couldn't. it is now taking months and it seems russia is now losing grip. so next superpower? that i doubt. if russia is taking this long just to get ukraine, a small country with very limited resources, how much more if they will invade other progressive countries? we are now seeing the real capability of russia because of this war, and it is far from being superpower, that's my opinion though.

Even before the war, Russia was losing it's population at a rate of 1 million per year (this could have been even worse if there was no mass immigration of Muslims from Central Asia and Azerbaijan to Russia). A country where the population is declining at such a massive rate can never be a super power. A lot is being discussed about the population decline in Japan. But even in Japan, the population loss is in the range of 500,000 per year (despite a more elderly age structure compared to Russia). And both the countries have similar population size.

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Russia being the next superpower is undoubtedly an unrealistic expectation happen. One fact, I was thinking they would crush Ukraine as soon as they invaded the country but today , Russia is losing men and their fighting gadgets in numbers.
I was thinking like I am the only one thinking like that but glad others think the same too. When Russia invaded Ukraine I and almost everyone on the news and internet was making it look like a 1 vs 100 type of war and it was more of a beating than a fight. Now months have passed and it's looking like an ongoing war instead of a beating and like you mentioned, Russia is losing men!

I don't see Russia becoming a dominant superpower although as mentioned in OP that if that does happen, it would be an overall positive for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency since they are very friendly towards crypto. I am not against Russia nor support what they are doing but I hope they don't become a superpower because it may do more harm than good.

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May 29, 2022, 10:30:14 PM
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Quite a few of the facts are wrong and quite a few of the conclusions:

- UK was not bombed to the stone age in any manner.


Here is a map illustrating 32,000 air raids the UK sustained during World War II.



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That map proves very little. Yes, the UK sustained air raids, but not, its industrial production and infrastructure largely survived intact. This is what you should be looking at:



As you can see, there is nothing in there like "bombed into stone age" in the UK graph - it is much more clear when you look at how Germany WAS actually bombed into stone-age.

China's debt is no different from other countries. Japan is above 200% GPD for example, Italy, Spain, Greece, France... all have debt for decades.

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China's debt is no different from other countries. Japan is above 200% GPD for example, Italy, Spain, Greece, France... all have debt for decades.


Japan, italy, spain, greece and france. Are all too far into debt to donate funds to ukraine.

Eventually the united states will be as well.

What happens then? When russia still has low debt and can afford to mobilize.

The united states spent more than $12 trillion dollars on military operations in the middle east. Eventually that money runs out and nations cannot defend themselves (or ukraine) without bankrupting their budget.
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There is this news coming out lately on the cancer illness on the president of the country and the prediction of less than 2 years till the death of the team member, Is a very difficult news to prepare for or keep. Russia does not provide platform to produce news. THe present war cant help

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Japan, italy, spain, greece and france. Are all too far into debt to donate funds to ukraine.

Eventually the united states will be as well.

What happens then? When russia still has low debt and can afford to mobilize.

The united states spent more than $12 trillion dollars on military operations in the middle east. Eventually that money runs out and nations cannot defend themselves (or ukraine) without bankrupting their budget.

Well... this is one of the advantages in having your national currency as the reserve and trade currency of the world. The US can just print another $10 trillion in USD banknotes and use all that money to invade another half a dozen third world nations. Other countries will be footing the bill, as the USD is the reserve currency. Even countries such as China are having most of their forex reserves in the form of the US Dollar. Even Russia had a large part of their forex reserves in the form of USD, and all that got frozen a few months back.

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Japan, italy, spain, greece and france. Are all too far into debt to donate funds to ukraine.

Eventually the united states will be as well.

What happens then? When russia still has low debt and can afford to mobilize.

The united states spent more than $12 trillion dollars on military operations in the middle east. Eventually that money runs out and nations cannot defend themselves (or ukraine) without bankrupting their budget.

Well... this is one of the advantages in having your national currency as the reserve and trade currency of the world. The US can just print another $10 trillion in USD banknotes and use all that money to invade another half a dozen third world nations. Other countries will be footing the bill, as the USD is the reserve currency. Even countries such as China are having most of their forex reserves in the form of the US Dollar. Even Russia had a large part of their forex reserves in the form of USD, and all that got frozen a few months back.
If Russia succeeds in breaking petrodollar deal. and they start selling the fuel in Ruble. Then surly
I have read in other forums that Russian president has asked counties to pay in Ruble. If that is a successful deal then surely they will be dominant superpower.

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