Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ?

[LUCKMCFLY]

But in today's current status of high leagues, I doubt game-fixing is still happening.

There are sports that are easier to fix.  Those that rely on judges is the best candidate.  Aside from that, there are seldom instances where a referee's call is out of the blue.  It is either someone bought that referee or it is part of the sports commission's plan to support or build up a certain team or player.

Not as easy when people are starting to doubt that. Without the player's cooperation it would become too obvious of a thing.
Let's say If a boxing judge is trying rig the match, he would become very obvious on the results on his score card which will automatically contradicts on the other 2 judges, especially when there is a huge difference in scoring the match.
Now, for basketball if the referee is trying to rig the game, his calls might be too obvious as well especially during crunch time where referees decisions are very critical.

Therefore, identifying a rigged game might no be easy to spot on. It does require the cooperation of everyone involved in that line of sport to make it unnoticeable.

Well this is a practice that many are already aware of these things, the truth is I think that after seeing the robbery that was done in the past Olympics in boxing it is something obvious that on occasion any person is capable of realizing it, for me At that moment I felt a lot of anger, and just as it happened in such a special event, where everything is "supposedly transparent" it means that it happens in other competitions.

The case of Italy vs. South Korea, in a World Cup, a totally biased referee made Italy win South Korea, the referee discovered that he was drunk, and later he was imprisoned because a drug shipment was passing, so these things They are the ones that still fight in sports so that it doesn't happen anymore.

[agustina2]

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.
Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

No. It's the officiating was involved mostly and not the players. Who is able to control the game result and can manipulate it? The referees. They are playing a big role in the game results regardless of the player's performance. They can turn around the situation with their wrong officiating by doing intentional calls.

Players can't just involve in game-fixing. It's prone to detection and it needs the entire players to participate in the game-fixing and not just only a few. And challenging referees' decisions are just bound to happen later on and not in the actual game.

The referee's decision is always final and if found wrong by the league officials, they will just suspend that involved referee and everything is now fine again.

[Fredomago]

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.
Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

No. It's the officiating was involved mostly and not the players. Who is able to control the game result and can manipulate it? The referees. They are playing a big role in the game results regardless of the player's performance. They can turn around the situation with their wrong officiating by doing intentional calls.

Players can't just involve in game-fixing. It's prone to detection and it needs the entire players to participate in the game-fixing and not just only a few. And challenging referees' decisions are just bound to happen later on and not in the actual game.

The referee's decision is always final and if found wrong by the league officials, they will just suspend that involved referee and everything is now fine again.

The participation of the officiating refs do have a big influenced with the outcome of the games, not just the players but more on the sides of those people who are controlling the game, I'm not really sure if how those refs getting suspended or I mean if how long they will be out after calling a wrong violation.

They'll be forgotten after the suspensions and again can do another manipulating call. Fixers also include refs

as they understand that players are prone to being caught while officials are at the next resort.

[mirakal]

A lot of people here with some interesting theories that’s for sure lol. I think the only fights/events that I’ve ever seen where I could “tell” that it’s fixed are exhibition fights.  For instance Jose Canseco recently fought a guy named billy from Barstool sports where Jose went down really easily and when we found out how much he made even as a loser of the fight, it just all added up and being clear to see it was a fixed fight.

Yes mate, that's for sure! An exhibition fight is clearly not to be viewed as a fair fight because both fighters know that the records won't be official and there's no judge to officiate the said fight. It was originally created that an exhibition fight is just a mere entertainment purpose to see these legendary fighters again but the Logan Brothers if you know them have really ruined these exhibition fights and also Mayweather.

Ruined in terms of collecting more money the Logan brothers managed to attract fans using their social media personalities they really made a huge amount profits using this kind of entertainment so with Mayweather, in terms of fixed fights we can't expect anything if we will relate this kind of connections with exhibition fights.

Fixed games are more into serious games or regular sports venues where rumors game fixing are ongoing but no can really tell

if the said activities are really existing, or this kind of rumors will continue just a rumors.

Both said personalities are taking advantage of their fame to collect money using the boxing industry as a place to milk themselves. Logan Brothers were first known in vlogs and short clips that's why they have their own set of huge fan base that will actually support them as they decide to set their foot on the ring while Mayweather managed to carve his name as a boxer but even having a flawless record doesn't keep him away for bashers who don't believe that he can have a flawless record.

I agree that as per fixed games, it will remain a rumor and a speculation unless there will be some people who will stand up for it and begin an investigation and as long as it's not proven then it's safe to assume that these things are actually rumor.

[Finestream]

It is super hard to dictect a fixed match or a fixed fight  because the two parties involved won't open up and tell anyone,they will keep it to themselve,.The only thing that will make you want to suspect is when there is a kind of slowness in the fight,or in football,they give unnecessary coners or penalties that will lead to goal.But I can conclude that when games are fixed,the both parties or team usually end up in a draw.

You can only tell that a game or event is fixed because there will be odds happening and as someone who is also good in the event, it’s easy to trace and detect if there’s any. It may be some fault of judges, or the event’s organizer, but one thing is certain, the team who wins have taken advantage on the event, while leaving the underdog team in great despair.

[Fortify]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

It's probably easier to tell if a fight is a fix than most of the other sports you list, as there are only two people to focus on and anyone who watches them often could build an idea of their fighting style. A lot of match fixing is intended to be as subtle and undetectable as ever, so you'd still be guessing unless they are blatant (which would probably provoke detailed investigation). The only time you're likely to detect it easily is if both fighters are trying to lose.

[Maslate]

The case of Italy vs. South Korea, in a World Cup, a totally biased referee made Italy win South Korea, the referee discovered that he was drunk, and later he was imprisoned because a drug shipment was passing, so these things They are the ones that still fight in sports so that it doesn't happen anymore.

But I seriously think that it was deeper than that, we may also have speculations about that case but we can't justify it but I feel that there were some strings pulled so that the result won't be complex enough and the referee will carry all the burden that's why the result says that he was just drunk that time and a drug shipment was found out too.

These refs are more prone to be forced to make the game fixed because the minds behind the curtain are powerful enough to blackmail or threaten the referee.

[mm2543363580]

The case of Italy vs. South Korea, in a World Cup, a totally biased referee made Italy win South Korea, the referee discovered that he was drunk, and later he was imprisoned because a drug shipment was passing, so these things They are the ones that still fight in sports so that it doesn't happen anymore.

But I seriously think that it was deeper than that, we may also have speculations about that case but we can't justify it but I feel that there were some strings pulled so that the result won't be complex enough and the referee will carry all the burden that's why the result says that he was just drunk that time and a drug shipment was found out too.

These refs are more prone to be forced to make the game fixed because the minds behind the curtain are powerful enough to blackmail or threaten the referee.

I think people are more concerned about many other important things in their life rather than just focusing on match fixing. Yes gamblers have a different mind set. But people interests are inclined to many other things these days. There are so much distraction that sometime we too forget these small things like match fixing and other stuff...

[Fredomago]

I agree that as per fixed games, it will remain a rumor and a speculation unless there will be some people who will stand up for it and begin an investigation and as long as it's not proven then it's safe to assume that these things are actually rumor.

Locally, there are attempts to expose those kinds of activities but a magic hands coming from nowhere easily remove any rumor about it and the individuals who attempt to bring it out either stop the claim or being ignored. Fixed games will continue to run the business without any doubts, though again, it's tough to recognize and every speculation will remain at it is until something will be proven that the game is being manipulated.

Nonetheless, only those who are involved will also continue to enjoy the luxury of keep sucking their winnings after settling the game.

[Naficopa]

I agree that as per fixed games, it will remain a rumor and a speculation unless there will be some people who will stand up for it and begin an investigation and as long as it's not proven then it's safe to assume that these things are actually rumor.

Locally, there are attempts to expose those kinds of activities but a magic hands coming from nowhere easily remove any rumor about it and the individuals who attempt to bring it out either stop the claim or being ignored. Fixed games will continue to run the business without any doubts, though again, it's tough to recognize and every speculation will remain at it is until something will be proven that the game is being manipulated.

Nonetheless, only those who are involved will also continue to enjoy the luxury of keep sucking their winnings after settling the game.

Surprisingly match fixing goes in all the direction. There is game beyond every game and one who can see that hidden game is the winner.
In this upsetting time. People are getting more into sports gaming.But than again not everyone will have an ability to read between the lines.

[Silberman]

I doubt referees can play a part in match fixing. The reason is that even if the referee makes the wrong decision, in most games, it can be challenged by the third umpire or camera umpire.
Usually, the players are involved in match fixing. If you see the under performing without any reason, you can get the hint of match fixing.

No. It's the officiating was involved mostly and not the players. Who is able to control the game result and can manipulate it? The referees. They are playing a big role in the game results regardless of the player's performance. They can turn around the situation with their wrong officiating by doing intentional calls.

Players can't just involve in game-fixing. It's prone to detection and it needs the entire players to participate in the game-fixing and not just only a few. And challenging referees' decisions are just bound to happen later on and not in the actual game.

The referee's decision is always final and if found wrong by the league officials, they will just suspend that involved referee and everything is now fine again.

We need to also consider that at the top of any sport a star athlete will be earning a fortune not only from his salary or the prize money that he earns, but also a lot of money will come from promoting several products and brands so it is much more difficult to bribe them, referees on the other hand regardless of how well they could be paid by their leagues still receive a very low salary in comparison, so it is way easier to bribe them so they fix a match.

[Maslate]

I agree that as per fixed games, it will remain a rumor and a speculation unless there will be some people who will stand up for it and begin an investigation and as long as it's not proven then it's safe to assume that these things are actually rumor.

Locally, there are attempts to expose those kinds of activities but a magic hands coming from nowhere easily remove any rumor about it and the individuals who attempt to bring it out either stop the claim or being ignored. Fixed games will continue to run the business without any doubts, though again, it's tough to recognize and every speculation will remain at it is until something will be proven that the game is being manipulated.

Nonetheless, only those who are involved will also continue to enjoy the luxury of keep sucking their winnings after settling the game.

That is somehow expected to happen because they also have the right connection to make the rumor sounds nonsense to believe or else they will pay huge load of cash to those individuals who are going to expose them. But if those two scenarios stated won't suffice to stop that certain individual to expose them then I think they are also prepared to get in a messy way. We know that there's actually a business like that, so I expect that their circle is full of powerful people to make the job easy.

[bitgov]

That is somehow expected to happen because they also have the right connection to make the rumor sounds nonsense to believe or else they will pay huge load of cash to those individuals who are going to expose them. But if those two scenarios stated won't suffice to stop that certain individual to expose them then I think they are also prepared to get in a messy way. We know that there's actually a business like that, so I expect that their circle is full of powerful people to make the job easy.

Propaganda and rumors play a vital role in the everything. Some businesses face serious downfalls after the propaganda.
I have seen many brands being badly affected due to rumors and propaganda. But these tricks and techniques does not last for long.

[carlisle1]

We need to also consider that at the top of any sport a star athlete will be earning a fortune not only from his salary or the prize money that he earns, but also a lot of money will come from promoting several products and brands so it is much more difficult to bribe them, referees on the other hand regardless of how well they could be paid by their leagues still receive a very low salary in comparison, so it is way easier to bribe them so they fix a match.

Stars in each sport are not really into this kind of activities, knowing that just by one mistake they can ruin their entire careers.

But yes, with officiating officials, they are very prone to participate. They can do the magic while the game is playing, chances that

the most participation in game fixing is from the refs is very possible, but again without any proven participation they are going

to be suspended if by chance, there's a challenge that being called from how they officiated the game.

[Maslate]

That is somehow expected to happen because they also have the right connection to make the rumor sounds nonsense to believe or else they will pay huge load of cash to those individuals who are going to expose them. But if those two scenarios stated won't suffice to stop that certain individual to expose them then I think they are also prepared to get in a messy way. We know that there's actually a business like that, so I expect that their circle is full of powerful people to make the job easy.

Propaganda and rumors play a vital role in the everything. Some businesses face serious downfalls after the propaganda.
I have seen many brands being badly affected due to rumors and propaganda. But these tricks and techniques does not last for long.

How can you say that these techniques and tricks won't last for long? The organization will remain powerful because of rigging happened and they can always escape the speculations/rumors because they have the right connection and will make the cheating look clean and the people/protester won't have an evidence against them.

[carlfebz2]

That is somehow expected to happen because they also have the right connection to make the rumor sounds nonsense to believe or else they will pay huge load of cash to those individuals who are going to expose them. But if those two scenarios stated won't suffice to stop that certain individual to expose them then I think they are also prepared to get in a messy way. We know that there's actually a business like that, so I expect that their circle is full of powerful people to make the job easy.

Propaganda and rumors play a vital role in the everything. Some businesses face serious downfalls after the propaganda.
I have seen many brands being badly affected due to rumors and propaganda. But these tricks and techniques does not last for long.

How can you say that these techniques and tricks won't last for long? The organization will remain powerful because of rigging happened and they can always escape the speculations/rumors because they have the right connection and will make the cheating look clean and the people/protester won't have an evidence against them.

If you do have the money and the connection then you could really have everything or able to done on what to be done or whats up into your mind.They arent that dumb on making things illegal and making it looking

obvious? They wont really be doing suicidal things because that would surely give out that consequences which might things make more worst or would totally affect in overall reputation and career.Fixed matches
could really happen but determining which game then it would be the hardest thing to be done.Of course they would really be making it unnoticeable in the public whether you could spot out somethings off
then as a regular citizen or fan then what you would intend to do? For sure you wont really be doing stupid things on accusing without solid evidences.

[mm2543363580]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

No I can't tell it unless it is too obvious. I've seen goalkeepers (football) acting super stupid before and there was no other explanation for those games. They were fixed. Since I don't watch the other sports like basketball, boxing etc... I don't know anything about those games so It is extremely hard for me to tell anything about them. If you are a regular watcher and a fan of those sports, you could probably tell though. If the favorite side/player acting stupid for no reason > the game is fixed

Now in the modern world - thing are more covered up there are new techniques and ways for the match fixing. But I am sure every big game has a big game behind it. To me almost every match if not approx 80% matches are fixed. Do you agree?

[stadus]

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

No I can't tell it unless it is too obvious. I've seen goalkeepers (football) acting super stupid before and there was no other explanation for those games. They were fixed. Since I don't watch the other sports like basketball, boxing etc... I don't know anything about those games so It is extremely hard for me to tell anything about them. If you are a regular watcher and a fan of those sports, you could probably tell though. If the favorite side/player acting stupid for no reason > the game is fixed

Now in the modern world - thing are more covered up there are new techniques and ways for the match fixing. But I am sure every big game has a big game behind it. To me almost every match if not approx 80% matches are fixed. Do you agree?

I cannot really say if that's somehow true but who knows, right? I just think that your figure is quite high considering that it is a big game, I think it's just 40% or lower than that but that specific games doesn't much require crowd or large group of spectators because rigging big leagues or big games is really risky for them as they know that there would be lots of organizations who will watch it. That said, bets on that specific game are also soaring high, so that's why they can't just risk their motive with that kind of games.

[bitgov]

I cannot really say if that's somehow true but who knows, right? I just think that your figure is quite high considering that it is a big game, I think it's just 40% or lower than that but that specific games doesn't much require crowd or large group of spectators because rigging big leagues or big games is really risky for them as they know that there would be lots of organizations who will watch it. That said, bets on that specific game are also soaring high, so that's why they can't just risk their motive with that kind of games.

The recent match between India and England. I think that match was fixed.
Both the team looked so lousy on the field. And rather it appeared England is going to win the match very easily and the end was different all together.

[goinmerry]

The recent match between India and England. I think that match was fixed.
Both the team looked so lousy on the field. And rather it appeared England is going to win the match very easily and the end was different all together.

Are you referring to the first T20 international? Not have much knowledge about the league and the sports itself honestly. If you are a regular viewer of that sport, I understand your sentiments and speculations that something unusual is going wrong.

But searching on that, it's not England that won as far as your speculation is concerned but rather India takes the win by 50 runs.

With that result, do you still believe that match is somehow fixed?