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August 13, 2022, 10:44:38 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.

But the Bible also doesn't recommend drinking alcohol, right? So basically, all religious teachings do not encourage or may prohibit things like alcohol, gambling, adultery and others through their religious teachings. And we follow the rules that apply according to the teachings of our religion.
No one cares about religion here, religion had done plenty of havoc to us than good mate. I think gambling and drinking of alcohol started from the beginning and we are not left out. We gamble to make more funds and for the fun so if you think religion do not support that then maybe we have to restructure the way we gamble. Gambling is not bad and we should not discriminate it because of our faith.

I agree that gambling in its nature isn't bad, even leaders of a religious group in ancient times throw lots to arrive at a decision.  That includes punishment, land division, and something that the tribe leader can't decide.  It is excessive gambling that leads to sin is forbidden so gambling in moderation that does not lead to sin is ok, IMO.  It goes the same with food - gluttony is a sin, money - greed is a sin, desire - lust is a sin, and the rest of the 7 deadly sins.

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August 14, 2022, 03:09:03 AM
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I agree that gambling in its nature isn't bad, even leaders of a religious group in ancient times throw lots to arrive at a decision.  That includes punishment, land division, and something that the tribe leader can't decide.  It is excessive gambling that leads to sin is forbidden so gambling in moderation that does not lead to sin is ok, IMO.  It goes the same with food - gluttony is a sin, money - greed is a sin, desire - lust is a sin, and the rest of the 7 deadly sins.
Indeed. It depends on our action if we gamble. Gambling is not a sin (though there are some religion particularly Islam who are against it) but you can be a sinner depending on how you deal with it. Gambling is existing for long years already and up to now evolving to give entertainment or to get more from the value that we're willing to risk. If you cant handle yourself (lacking of control and discipline) you're likely to end up as one of those gamblers who are not playing in moderation and had to face the consequences for doing so.

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August 14, 2022, 08:22:47 PM
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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.
But at the end - everyone quits alcohol - they leave gambling and they leave adultery as well.
There is no goods attached to it.
Moderation you are right is important but than again there is no control over one's emotion while being into it. so better safe than sorry

There is a huge difference between quitting because you have decided to do so and quitting because you're forced to, it is true that addiction cannot be sustained for long regardless of the amount of money that you have because at some point your money is going to run out, however a person that is still addicted to something will spend whatever money they get into their favorite addiction as soon as they get it, so even if they are not spending as much money or time as before they are still addicted because they cannot control themselves, so they still need help in order to overcome their addiction, otherwise they're never going to improve and leave that addiction behind for good.

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August 14, 2022, 11:23:42 PM
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Going back to gambling history, it was said that gambling in America became a legitimate industry in Nevada and Atlantic City in the year the 1940s and 50s.  It was said that the trace of gambling in America started as a lottery in public during the colonial era followed by New York casinos being run by a Crime syndicate in the 20th century.  That said America has three historical chapters of gambling.[1]



[1] https://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/144593.pdf

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August 15, 2022, 08:26:42 PM
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There is a huge difference between quitting because you have decided to do so and quitting because you're forced to, it is true that addiction cannot be sustained for long regardless of the amount of money that you have because at some point your money is going to run out, however a person that is still addicted to something will spend whatever money they get into their favorite addiction as soon as they get it, so even if they are not spending as much money or time as before they are still addicted because they cannot control themselves, so they still need help in order to overcome their addiction, otherwise they're never going to improve and leave that addiction behind for good.
Between quitting and what? I think you missed some words in your post, making me to not really understand what you are comparing with but if we are attached into something else, we are the only one that can fix it even if we say that there are other people that are concern and will help us because the final decision or act will still depend on us.

If the addicted person has run out of money then it's possible for them to do stealing with their partner of families money but if they can't get anything then they will do other crimes outside. This is why being addicted is bad and should be treated as soon as possible before it gets worse.

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August 15, 2022, 08:57:16 PM
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Before we continue with the arguments about gambling and the religious matter be informed that the first Casino is named Casinò di Venezia in Venice, Italy.  It was built in 1638, though it is far from the world's first gambling establishment, the Casino of Venice is the first recognized gambling house.  It is located in the Ca’ Vendramin Calergi, a long-standing palace that sits on Venice’s Grand Canal. [1]



[1]  CASINO GAMBLING TRIVIA, FACTS, AND STATISTICS




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August 15, 2022, 09:07:47 PM
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3000 BC... it's just crazy  Shocked

It would not surprise me if we have been gambling 10's or thousands of years ago but perhaps not formally in precise ways, people have placed wagers on outcomes regularly and probably for as long as humans could talk and boast Cheesy   Risk and to gamble is a natural quite necessary instinct imo
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The first online casino is launched circa 1995 -1996.

Online but not completely.   Thats fairly early globally but in USA I would have guessed earlier, I guess AOL didnt condone such things.   The reason might be the restrictive laws in USA for a long time.

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August 15, 2022, 09:50:39 PM
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What do we think of gambling and what is our major concernment. Because i what to tell you that gambling is not bad and it can be condenmeable, i don't blame people that quits alcohol and take over gambling as best option because when you are looking at it, you will see that gambling is what is going on everywhere and especially casino gambling many people is now using it as best option. So for me i can not leave gambling because i know my what in the gamblling.
Everything that is a lot is bad and especially if the entire effect on it the person is becoming bad. That's why those that don't gamble tell us that gambling is bad and we as gamblers will say that it's not that bad and it will base on the person's activeness and perspective on gambling.
Especially these days, gambling is everywhere because almost all of the people in the world have their own smart devices, be it on smartphones, gadgets, PC or laptops.

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August 16, 2022, 01:35:25 PM
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Actually, in religion, gambling, alcohol and adultery are prohibited. <...>

Actually, it depends on which religion you are talking about. As you mentioned alcohol, I assume you are referring to Islam. There are many other religions in the world and not all religions follow the same rules. For example, I am a Christian and I follow the rules of the Bible, not the rules of the Quran.

But the Bible also doesn't recommend drinking alcohol, right? So basically, all religious teachings do not encourage or may prohibit things like alcohol, gambling, adultery and others through their religious teachings. And we follow the rules that apply according to the teachings of our religion.
The bible says many things that we do not accept, but I think that fun is something that is contemplated that we can do with all freedom and should not be prohibited, in the bible it does not say that, those who consider gambling prohibited in the bible, do not say casinos or something similar, that mcuhso's approach goes towards that already indicates another variant, I don't think it goes against God's law.

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August 16, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
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What do we think of gambling and what is our major concernment. Because i what to tell you that gambling is not bad and it can be condenmeable, i don't blame people that quits alcohol and take over gambling as best option because when you are looking at it, you will see that gambling is what is going on everywhere and especially casino gambling many people is now using it as best option. So for me i can not leave gambling because i know my what in the gamblling.
Everything that is a lot is bad and especially if the entire effect on it the person is becoming bad. That's why those that don't gamble tell us that gambling is bad and we as gamblers will say that it's not that bad and it will base on the person's activeness and perspective on gambling.
Especially these days, gambling is everywhere because almost all of the people in the world have their own smart devices, be it on smartphones, gadgets, PC or laptops.

Religious view on gambling is subjected to the type you worship, I have seen a Parisian company who majorly are Shite rum a casino, they have an announcement thread on this forum and they are even running a signature right now, so because something is prohibited from a particular religion doesn't make it exceptional for other religions because the last I checked, we hundreds of other religion apart from Muslim and Christians especially now that we also have the free thinkers who don't believe on the existence of God. Saying gambling is bad, if at all it is, no government will licence casino houses, only the extremists see the addicted players and then generalise it as a whole.

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The bible says many things that we do not accept, but I think that fun is something that is contemplated that we can do with all freedom and should not be prohibited, in the bible it does not say that, those who consider gambling prohibited in the bible, do not say casinos or something similar, that mcuhso's approach goes towards that already indicates another variant, I don't think it goes against God's law.
That's because most of the fun is forbidden in the Bible and I guess it's also forbidden in all religions. But with all those pleasures, we still continue to do what the Bible forbids and all the scriptures under the pretext that we just want to find pleasure in what we do. We already know that what we do is not allowed or recommended to do, but we are only humans who often forget what our religion has taught us.

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Religious view on gambling is subjected to the type you worship, I have seen a Parisian company who majorly are Shite rum a casino, they have an announcement thread on this forum and they are even running a signature right now, so because something is prohibited from a particular religion doesn't make it exceptional for other religions because the last I checked, we hundreds of other religion apart from Muslim and Christians especially now that we also have the free thinkers who don't believe on the existence of God. Saying gambling is bad, if at all it is, no government will licence casino houses, only the extremists see the addicted players and then generalise it as a whole.
Each religion has their own rules and belief and that's why if some of the religions don't allow their members to gamble, some are saying that it is totally fine.
Based on the views and opinions of those that are in a particular religion, it will vary depending on what they really are convicted with their belief and commitment on that religion that they're part of.

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It is true that gambling can make you stressed, but let's not forget that there are also a lot of people who gamble precisely because they are under stress. In that respect, the term stress has 2 meanings. First form can take disastrous forms because it involves high amounts that can be gambled through. Eventually you end up in a vicious circle if you keep gambling. I think that gambling in an online casino gives a very different stress and relaxation than in a physical casino. At home you are in your own environment and you can also generate your own music and background.
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Religious view on gambling is subjected to the type you worship, I have seen a Parisian company who majorly are Shite rum a casino, they have an announcement thread on this forum and they are even running a signature right now, so because something is prohibited from a particular religion doesn't make it exceptional for other religions because the last I checked, we hundreds of other religion apart from Muslim and Christians especially now that we also have the free thinkers who don't believe on the existence of God. Saying gambling is bad, if at all it is, no government will licence casino houses, only the extremists see the addicted players and then generalise it as a whole.
Each religion has their own rules and belief and that's why if some of the religions don't allow their members to gamble, some are saying that it is totally fine.
Based on the views and opinions of those that are in a particular religion, it will vary depending on what they really are convicted with their belief and commitment on that religion that they're part of.

Really, things when dealing with religion usually and should be handled with the respective respect, they are issues that are very vulnerable, sensitive, that should be treated with the greatest subtlety, for me it is very delicate to express an opinion on everything that is about religion. and religious beliefs, it is something analogous to what has to do with politics and/or also what sexual orientations are today, there are many things that must be addressed with the greatest possible measure, and that is why when a person leaves to the fields of gambling and sports betting with the use of their religion is something for me that must be respected.

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Going back to gambling history, it was said that gambling in America became a legitimate industry in Nevada and Atlantic City in the year the 1940s and 50s.  It was said that the trace of gambling in America started as a lottery in public during the colonial era followed by New York casinos being run by a Crime syndicate in the 20th century.  That said America has three historical chapters of gambling.[1]



[1] https://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/144593.pdf
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But eventually it made a comeback thanks in part to the organized crime which financed the construction and the development of Las Vegas, which is now one of the most important touristic spots on the US.

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On the early days of the US many of the public projects were financed by the use of lotteries, it is quite odd why at some point in time it became illegal when they had such a huge influence on the early days of the nation.

But eventually it made a comeback thanks in part to the organized crime which financed the construction and the development of Las Vegas, which is now one of the most important touristic spots on the US.
And in Europe it all started a long time ago and now we can say that avid gamers are the heirs of the wealthy social stratum of Ancient Greece, ancient Rome and Europe.  
In these countries, the game of dice has completely captured precisely these sections of society.  For obvious reasons, the working people had no time to play.

And the passion for dice among the church clergy was so significant that even the Cambrian Bishop Witold could not ban this game.  And then he came up with a replacement for her.  Instead of numbers on the edges of the bones, he painted the virtues in symbols. Smiley

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Greed is prohibited in the Bible (1 Timothy 6:10) not gambling.  But excessive gambling activity may lead us to sin. Please take note of the word excessive, and may lead.  
Yes, gambling is leading everybody to become greedy so it lies down to sin. It creates emotion and that's why it is being generalized by everyone that it's a sin.
Well, it's still an activity that each individual has the power to conquer its negative effect or allow it to control us which is making the others to have a bad ending.
That is why, as I have said before, in many threads, if people managed to see the game as a means of entertainment, there would be no cases of addiction, because addiction begins when the player has the overwhelming need to win or win no matter what, and since sometimes when you play with a lot of pressure you usually lose, you can't do anything else, and that desperation makes the player more frustrated and when he tries to win he loses, the problem with this is that he lends money, asks for money from their friends, family, and many problems associated with money and the way they play begin, they cannot control greed.

On the early days of the US many of the public projects were financed by the use of lotteries, it is quite odd why at some point in time it became illegal when they had such a huge influence on the early days of the nation.

But eventually it made a comeback thanks in part to the organized crime which financed the construction and the development of Las Vegas, which is now one of the most important touristic spots on the US.
And in Europe it all started a long time ago and now we can say that avid gamers are the heirs of the wealthy social stratum of Ancient Greece, ancient Rome and Europe. 
In these countries, the game of dice has completely captured precisely these sections of society.  For obvious reasons, the working people had no time to play.

And the passion for dice among the church clergy was so significant that even the Cambrian Bishop Witold could not ban this game.  And then he came up with a replacement for her.  Instead of numbers on the edges of the bones, he painted the virtues in symbols. Smiley

They are details of a lot of knowledge that they provide that are actually very valuable, I did not know that I had had so many things that I had gone through, however there are many details that, when well ordered, can come out as if it were a great biography from those times to the present day. Currently, this seems interesting to me, it only occurred to me when I read all the little things that happened in those times, and it is curious that by uniting all that knowledge, such a legendary story emerges, at least it seems that way to me, this means that the trajectory of games of chance is somewhat controversial and that within this there is a lot of knowledge immersed, this is quite interesting.

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On the early days of the US many of the public projects were financed by the use of lotteries, it is quite odd why at some point in time it became illegal when they had such a huge influence on the early days of the nation.

But eventually it made a comeback thanks in part to the organized crime which financed the construction and the development of Las Vegas, which is now one of the most important touristic spots on the US.
And in Europe it all started a long time ago and now we can say that avid gamers are the heirs of the wealthy social stratum of Ancient Greece, ancient Rome and Europe. 
In these countries, the game of dice has completely captured precisely these sections of society.  For obvious reasons, the working people had no time to play.

And the passion for dice among the church clergy was so significant that even the Cambrian Bishop Witold could not ban this game.  And then he came up with a replacement for her.  Instead of numbers on the edges of the bones, he painted the virtues in symbols. Smiley

They are details of a lot of knowledge that they provide that are actually very valuable, I did not know that I had had so many things that I had gone through, however there are many details that, when well ordered, can come out as if it were a great biography from those times to the present day. Currently, this seems interesting to me, it only occurred to me when I read all the little things that happened in those times, and it is curious that by uniting all that knowledge, such a legendary story emerges, at least it seems that way to me, this means that the trajectory of games of chance is somewhat controversial and that within this there is a lot of knowledge immersed, this is quite interesting.
The history of gambling is, of course, very diverse and is a long struggle between a person's passion for gambling and all sorts of prohibitions, ranging from religious ones to violence against the player in general.  But the passion for gambling is inherent in the nature of the person himself, as the desire for happiness and wealth.  And those people or organizations that fight against gambling allegedly care about the health and money of the player himself.  These people kind of make sure he doesn't lose all his money or even go crazy. 
And this endless struggle gave rise to an interesting history of gambling and is still developing in different directions - there are complete bans in some places in the world, but there is also their complete absence.

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August 24, 2022, 06:14:25 AM
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That is why, as I have said before, in many threads, if people managed to see the game as a means of entertainment, there would be no cases of addiction, because addiction begins when the player has the overwhelming need to win or win no matter what, and since sometimes when you play with a lot of pressure you usually lose, you can't do anything else, and that desperation makes the player more frustrated and when he tries to win he loses, the problem with this is that he lends money, asks for money from their friends, family, and many problems associated with money and the way they play begin, they cannot control greed.
I agree with the bold line because what we need when playing gambling is how to make and use gambling as entertainment so that we will not be dissolved in gambling.
If everyone realized this, they would not spend much money and could stop on time to reduce their money loss while gambling.
But unfortunately, not many people can control this and even get frustrated when they lose control and see losing money in front of them.
And if they win a lot of money, they get greedy and forget that what they got was because of luck.

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August 24, 2022, 08:08:20 AM
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Each religion has their own rules and belief and that's why if some of the religions don't allow their members to gamble, some are saying that it is totally fine.
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Yes, gambling is prohibited in some religions, but it is also a fact that the person who wants to gamble will gamble without caring about all this. For example, gambling is prohibited in Islam but there are many muslim who gamble.



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But unfortunately, not many people can control this and even get frustrated when they lose control and see losing money in front of them.
I believe that one who cannot bear loss should not gamble. Because every day is not going to be good day for him. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss.
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But unfortunately, not many people can control this and even get frustrated when they lose control and see losing money in front of them.
I believe that one who cannot bear loss should not gamble. Because every day is not going to be good day for him. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss.
That's what we have to do but not everyone can resist the curiosity of gambling will avoid gambling because I've seen some people are curious about gambling and in the end they try to play gambling.
Some of them can indeed withstand losing more money, while others can only regret seeing the loss of money on the gambling table.
That is a valuable lesson to remember so we don't lose money.

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