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July 31, 2022, 06:01:39 PM |
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I don't think that anyone can actually spot a gambling addict. Unlike a meth addict, for example, you will not see a gambling addict with teeth and hair falling out. So physically, there is no way to tell by looking. Addiction is a dopamine regulation problem. If the dopamine in someones brain is not being produced as it should be, or if the receptors are not taking in the dopamine as they should, then thats how an addiction comes to be.
The best way to know if someone is addicted is by observing their behavior and their daily habits. Listening to the person, helps too.
You have to know the guy or see him play to do that. An addict will act completely different from your casual player. At first he will look like a pro, but then, after a while, you'll see the difference in behavior. I've seen some of them in pubs, coming to play the machines. We were coming in for a beer or two and leaving after an hour or so, but these guys were still there, hunched over the machines, silently pushing the buttons like they were in a trance. They weren't eating anything, rarely drinking. Every penny was worth another game so it couldn't be wasted on food or drinks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 31, 2022, 06:06:33 PM |
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One thing I believe is that, those who get addicted to playing gambling is as a result of the fact that they desperate to make quick money. And if care is not taking you end up loosing more than what you are expecting to make from playing gambling. My advice for people who are about to or into playing gambling already is that they should not see gambling as a major source of income and don't go into gambling because of someone testimony. Learn skills that will earn you money and above all be contented with what you have at all time.
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July 31, 2022, 06:09:41 PM |
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online gambling addicts can still stop if you have strong intentions, avoid everything that smells of gambling, busy yourself with family so don't diagnose yourself as an addict and can't stop gambling but be excited to stay away so you don't stress
I'm not an addict, but it seems that intention alone is not enough. Looks like someone else has to help to stop. Looks like there should be a psychologist who accompanies. Maybe it's like drug addicts. They will have a hard time stopping on their own. They need rehab. Maybe this applies to people who are addicted to online gambling.
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July 31, 2022, 06:16:56 PM |
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You have to know the guy or see him play to do that. An addict will act completely different from your casual player. At first he will look like a pro, but then, after a while, you'll see the difference in behavior. I've seen some of them in pubs, coming to play the machines. We were coming in for a beer or two and leaving after an hour or so, but these guys were still there, hunched over the machines, silently pushing the buttons like they were in a trance. They weren't eating anything, rarely drinking. Every penny was worth another game so it couldn't be wasted on food or drinks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I agree with you on this. Every penny is worth another game and definitely can’t be wasted on either food nor drink. And most addicts literally use their last cent to satisfy their cravings. Also, an addict can not entirely hide his love and cravings for his addiction and if observed carefully, one can identify traits and symptoms of an addiction. Although addiction is bad and would need strict discipline to help overcome its clutch, I wouldn’t put all the blame on the shoulders of the addict and that’s why addicts get help because the addiction can be overwhelming for the addict to handle alone.
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July 31, 2022, 06:26:13 PM |
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online gambling addicts can still stop if you have strong intentions, avoid everything that smells of gambling, busy yourself with family so don't diagnose yourself as an addict and can't stop gambling but be excited to stay away so you don't stress
I'm not an addict, but it seems that intention alone is not enough. Looks like someone else has to help to stop. Looks like there should be a psychologist who accompanies. Maybe it's like drug addicts. They will have a hard time stopping on their own. They need rehab. Maybe this applies to people who are addicted to online gambling. I knew people who were able to get rid of hard drugs and I knew gambling addicts who lost huge sums of money in casinos but were able to give it up completely. So I think anyone who says they can't give up gambling and other addictions on their own is just cheating themselves and those around them. He either doesn't want to and doesn't have the core.
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July 31, 2022, 06:39:28 PM |
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online gambling addicts can still stop if you have strong intentions, avoid everything that smells of gambling, busy yourself with family so don't diagnose yourself as an addict and can't stop gambling but be excited to stay away so you don't stress
I'm not an addict, but it seems that intention alone is not enough. Looks like someone else has to help to stop. Looks like there should be a psychologist who accompanies. Maybe it's like drug addicts. They will have a hard time stopping on their own. They need rehab. Maybe this applies to people who are addicted to online gambling. not 100% of people who are addicted to gambling need the services of a psychologist to help them stop their addiction, there are also many successful addicts who quit because of the encouragement of loved ones, so I really agree with the support option from loved ones to encourage addicts to quit gambling if the gambling addict doesn't have the cost to go to a psychologist.
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July 31, 2022, 06:45:26 PM |
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I don't know what percentage, do you know? In my opinion, this percentage is rather higher when compared with the middle class. As you know, the children of rich parents very often become "golden youth" who suffer from idleness by using drugs, gambling, etc. In any case, whatever this percentage, such people, by the very fact of their existence, refute the stereotype that they come to gambling only because of disappointment with their financial situation and the desire to make money. Everyone has their own reasons.
As I have previously explained to you, each person has his reasons for falling prey to addiction, regardless of the general principle that confirms that there are certain personalities who can fall into the trap of addiction of all kinds, and not all personalities can become addicted to something as a result of circumstances, whether private or objective. . But when we are in the process of setting a general rule for defining a gambling addict, all evaluations will go to the search for easy and quick profit, which is the characteristic of the poor in the majority. I understand your point, but your theory is contrary to the facts because there are facts (rich people who gamble and become addicted) that are contrary to your "general rule". If you really want to talk about some serious theory, then you probably need to give more numbers and statistics and not just "I think so" or use such vague formulations as "majority", because even this formulation can change its meaning if we take not natural numbers, but percentages. Well I got your point. Now try to think about it in reverse. When we want to see how we can stop gambling. In my opinion, finding other sources of income will be the only solution for the rich and the poor alike. In another way, we have to define the concept of poverty also if people from all social classes fall prey to addiction and both seek easy and quick profit without the need to obtain a diploma in 4 years and establish a business.
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July 31, 2022, 06:48:49 PM |
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I knew people who were able to get rid of hard drugs and I knew gambling addicts who lost huge sums of money in casinos but were able to give it up completely. So I think anyone who says they can't give up gambling and other addictions on their own is just cheating themselves and those around them. He either doesn't want to and doesn't have the core.
Addiction isn’t really an easy feat to overcome. And that’s is probably why it’s called an addiction. Whether it’s drug addiction or gambling addiction, it really isn’t easy to overcome it. An individual has to be disciplined strictly in order to overcome. In some cases, the addict needs to get some help in order to overcome the addiction and that where rehab comes in. We all need each other to thrive and survive. An addict especially needs all the patience, understanding and constant monitoring to overcome an addiction cause it really isn’t an easy feat
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July 31, 2022, 07:25:10 PM |
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One thing I believe is that, those who get addicted to playing gambling is as a result of the fact that they desperate to make quick money. And if care is not taking you end up loosing more than what you are expecting to make from playing gambling. My advice for people who are about to or into playing gambling already is that they should not see gambling as a major source of income and don't go into gambling because of someone testimony. Learn skills that will earn you money and above all be contented with what you have at all time.
Well I don't think that's true. if someone wants to make money of course he has to work and in return he will get income. and if someone gambles for instant income, I'm sure he will experience disappointment. the thing to remember for everyone who wants to play gambling, that online or land casinos never offer wealth or give sure wins in every game session. Now, armed with this knowledge, I think someone should change their mindset to make gambling a part of fun entertainment and if they are lucky, they will get a very large prize money.
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July 31, 2022, 08:14:26 PM |
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I'd say it will depend on the gambler. There goes the gamblers that would really need a long time before he's able to take a whole healing process.
But for some, it won't take that much because of the burning desire to quit gambling and can't take it anymore as they experience the negative effects of it.
It is why that desire should include that encouragement of having that mindset of quitting addiction.
This bitter experience for me will make the basic point of the mindset, as the way to control already having this experience will not be repeated. yes, the urge is still in our brains to come back again. but I don't want to lose a valuable thing ruining the reputation of the other side's life. all need to plant seeds so that good or less perfect results can be seen, must be corrected again so that they continue to grow well Having the bitter experience will teach you more. Because you don't want to happen that again and the lesson will be sticked to your mind and you don't want that to happen again anymore. It can be a short thing to you and you'll realize wholly and quickly because you know that it's the best thing to do. You'll have to correct yourself and if there's still the desire to gamble, you will finally be able to control that again so it won't be experienced again.
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July 31, 2022, 08:22:23 PM |
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One thing I believe is that, those who get addicted to playing gambling is as a result of the fact that they desperate to make quick money. I disagree with you, those who are in desperate need of money tend to be more cautious in dealing with gambling activities. I think you have mistaken about gambling addicts who are in desperate need of money to fill their gambling activity for those who aren't addicted to gambling and desperately need money since the latter will have a second thought about gambling since they will think that they might lose the needed money if they gamble it.
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July 31, 2022, 08:37:12 PM |
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Gambling addiction is what makes gambling to appear as an irresponsible man's activity, I knew of a case where a chronic gambler had to serially sell all his household properties down to his personal wears just to be able to keep up with the gambling life with the hope that eventually he will hit a major winning streak that will change his life much better than it where, but till as at when I was brief about the case his life is moving continuously from frypan to fire.
This utopian believe by addicted gamblers is what sustain their addiction and create a mirage to their life expected hope to no avail but ruin after ruin. It's really takes a lot of discipline and self determination to escape from the cage of addiction.
It is bad to never think about how a gambler can control his desire and greed to gamble. Uncontrolled gambling is a bad thing and will only have a huge impact on the gambler including psychologically as well as financially. Becoming a responsible gambler is one of the best pieces of advice, but it is advice that is easy to say but hard to put into practice. I'm sure about that, because 8/10 gamblers will probably become greedy rather than quit after winning.
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July 31, 2022, 08:40:51 PM |
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Having the bitter experience will teach you more. Because you don't want to happen that again and the lesson will be sticked to your mind and you don't want that to happen again anymore.
It can be a short thing to you and you'll realize wholly and quickly because you know that it's the best thing to do. You'll have to correct yourself and if there's still the desire to gamble, you will finally be able to control that again so it won't be experienced again.
Gamblers who have the ability to learn the bitter lesson on an early stage can prevent themselves from becoming addicted ones, because this way they aren't going to chase losses, rather they will accept their limitations and understand the house can't be beaten by the players. Doesn't matter how much a gambler has lost, he must realize that money is gone and it must be recovered through another methods. Once he recovers that sum of money, he might think about gambling again, although in a more responsible way.
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July 31, 2022, 08:59:40 PM |
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Having the bitter experience will teach you more. Because you don't want to happen that again and the lesson will be sticked to your mind and you don't want that to happen again anymore.
It can be a short thing to you and you'll realize wholly and quickly because you know that it's the best thing to do. You'll have to correct yourself and if there's still the desire to gamble, you will finally be able to control that again so it won't be experienced again.
Gamblers who have the ability to learn the bitter lesson on an early stage can prevent themselves from becoming addicted ones, because this way they aren't going to chase losses, rather they will accept their limitations and understand the house can't be beaten by the players. Doesn't matter how much a gambler has lost, he must realize that money is gone and it must be recovered through another methods. Once he recovers that sum of money, he might think about gambling again, although in a more responsible way. Learning or lessons would always be coming in the end which is something that a standard or normal because there's no such thing about regret and learning would be on the start. When you are addicted to gambling then of course it would be meaning out about spending tons of funds or life savings and on the time that you dont have something to pull into your own pocket then much sure you would really be having those realization moments. Gambling should be fun and not something to be stressful because if you do find yourself into the verge of life wrecking situation in terms of finances then you have done the wrong way.
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July 31, 2022, 09:22:36 PM |
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online gambling addicts can still stop if you have strong intentions, avoid everything that smells of gambling, busy yourself with family so don't diagnose yourself as an addict and can't stop gambling but be excited to stay away so you don't stress
I'm not an addict, but it seems that intention alone is not enough. Looks like someone else has to help to stop. Looks like there should be a psychologist who accompanies. Maybe it's like drug addicts. They will have a hard time stopping on their own. They need rehab. Maybe this applies to people who are addicted to online gambling. Depends on the level of seriousness and willpower a person has in terms of recovering from gambling addiction and in addition it also depends on the severity of the addiction since severe cases always needs medical treatment. There are medical drugs that can suppress dopamine secretion and is used to cure drug addiction, of course medical prescription is needed to buy this one thus, there is a need for medical experts to help in the recovery.
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July 31, 2022, 09:29:37 PM |
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online gambling addicts can still stop if you have strong intentions, avoid everything that smells of gambling, busy yourself with family so don't diagnose yourself as an addict and can't stop gambling but be excited to stay away so you don't stress
I'm not an addict, but it seems that intention alone is not enough. Looks like someone else has to help to stop. Looks like there should be a psychologist who accompanies. Maybe it's like drug addicts. They will have a hard time stopping on their own. They need rehab. Maybe this applies to people who are addicted to online gambling. I knew people who were able to get rid of hard drugs and I knew gambling addicts who lost huge sums of money in casinos but were able to give it up completely. So I think anyone who says they can't give up gambling and other addictions on their own is just cheating themselves and those around them. He either doesn't want to and doesn't have the core. The only way gambling addict gets quiting gambling easily is when the gambling lifestyle is affecting them badly that it can harm, then the gambler addict have no choice to stop gambling just to feel better.
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July 31, 2022, 09:35:12 PM |
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The only way gambling addict gets quiting gambling easily is when the gambling lifestyle is affecting them badly that it can harm, then the gambler addict have no choice to stop gambling just to feel better.
Hopefully, it is that easy for a person who has compulsive gambling disorder to quit gambling easily. But the uncontrollable urge makes it too difficult. That is why the person must admit that he has this compulsive gambling disorder first in order for the treatment process to initiate. Else he will be in a loop never finding an exit to his gambling addiction. Besides, a person who is in gambling addiction treatment will have withdrawal syndrome and that is very uncomfortable that is why many gambling addicts have a hard way treating themselves.
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July 31, 2022, 11:20:58 PM |
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The only way gambling addict gets quiting gambling easily is when the gambling lifestyle is affecting them badly that it can harm, then the gambler addict have no choice to stop gambling just to feel better.
Hopefully, it is that easy for a person who has compulsive gambling disorder to quit gambling easily. But the uncontrollable urge makes it too difficult. That is why the person must admit that he has this compulsive gambling disorder first in order for the treatment process to initiate. Else he will be in a loop never finding an exit to his gambling addiction. Besides, a person who is in gambling addiction treatment will have withdrawal syndrome and that is very uncomfortable that is why many gambling addicts have a hard way treating themselves. When a person is in trouble - be it financial or personal - they learn and make their decisions. But - having said that - its also good not to be greedy for money and its also not good to have money on your mind all the time. this lust is crazy - try to avoid it as much as possible.
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July 31, 2022, 11:36:09 PM |
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[When a person is in trouble - be it financial or personal - they learn and make their decisions. But - having said that - its also good not to be greedy for money and its also not good to have money on your mind all the time. this lust is crazy - try to avoid it as much as possible.
But the thing is different when it comes to gambling addiction. Gambling addicts have this uncontrolled urge to gamble, so definitely their priority is to fulfill this urge, and not to learn from their mistakes. Gambling problems won't be a problem if players can adjust and learn from their mistakes and make favorable decisions for betterment. Aside from that, gambling addiction won't be an issue if your statement is correct, and the government does not need to spend millions of dollars just to create a program to aid those who are addicted to gambling.
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July 31, 2022, 11:44:46 PM |
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When a person is in trouble - be it financial or personal - they learn and make their decisions. But - having said that - its also good not to be greedy for money and its also not good to have money on your mind all the time. this lust is crazy - try to avoid it as much as possible.
I think greed is a also one of the major factors on why people get addicted to gambling. And yes, I think you’re right when you say we should all try to not be greedy for money and definitely not good to have thoughts on how to get money all the time. The lust like you said is really crazy and it can make people do crazy unimaginable things in the quest to acquire money and more money. In some cases, during this mad lust in acquiring money, people may turn to gambling and then addiction slowly and steadily creeps in. We shouldn’t let money control our thoughts and actions.
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