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August 27, 2022, 11:38:48 PM
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That is from early 2000 and it was not even using 1% of Iran's capabilities at full scenario, while it used nearly the full force of US military!
Iran face a serious crisis when DR musadaq wanted to nationalize the Irani oil reserves.
But it never happened in his life. There have been so many disputes on oil and gas that we don't even remember damage we have made to the world in the name of war

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Yesterday, the infrastructure of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards was destroyed in Syria by American planes, and Israel,
I sometimes don't understand what the hell they're thinking in CENTCOM. The attacks against their forces has increased 400% according to their own statistics (it is a lot higher in reality) and they decide to respond to only one of them by hitting some launching vehicles, which leads to multiple US based being hit 15 times in total.
Were the body bags worth it? Apparently the oil they continue to steal is more valuable than those troops they keep losing.
There is no other explanation for these strikes, but they do not want the stolen oil tap to stop. Otherwise, why aren't the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' deployment centers in other countries such as Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon targeted? It is also noteworthy that Turkey has escalated its attacks against Kurdish groups, whether in northern Syria or in Iraq, and these groups are directly supported by America. There is a conflict of interests in the Syrian field, and this is one of the goals that they succeeded in reaching after the failure of their attempt to overthrow the regime in Syria .
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Exactly. Unless some politicians go crazy and make some stupid decision. The problem US has is that they played all their hands and they have nothing more up their sleeves. The sanctions didn't achieve what they wanted and they ran out of things they can sanction (there are individuals who have been sanctioned at least 5 times lol). They can't do anything military-wise either since their losses would be massive not to mention that oil price that could go up to $1000.

NATO is very much over-rated. They failed in third world nations such as Iraq and Afghanistan. In Syria, Bashar al Assad mopped the floor with US-backed rebels. Now imagine how will an armed confrontation against Iran or Russia will turn out to be. Russia do have nukes, so there is no question of a winner emerging out of this confrontation. Everyone will lose. In case of Iran, even without the nukes NATO will be having a hard time if they go on the offensive. So we can safely assume that the military option is ruled out.


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August 28, 2022, 11:54:27 PM
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I can't understand what is happening with Russia. Today Putin have given orders to people entering into Russia from Ukraine to be provided with all kinds of help. Even they will be given financial aids. The impact the war left all around the world is really big, as far concerned Russia is placed at a good position whereas Ukraine is suffering amidst all sort of support from World countries.

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There is no other explanation for these strikes, but they do not want the stolen oil tap to stop. Otherwise, why aren't the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' deployment centers in other countries such as Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon targeted? It is also noteworthy that Turkey has escalated its attacks against Kurdish groups, whether in northern Syria or in Iraq, and these groups are directly supported by America. There is a conflict of interests in the Syrian field, and this is one of the goals that they succeeded in reaching after the failure of their attempt to overthrow the regime in Syria .
They are hitting Syrian resistance positions not Iran's since they know Iran would retaliate hard and they still haven't forgotten what a dozen hypersonic missiles did to their biggest and heavily defended base while their defense systems all watch impotently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWtBtkri-k
https://imgur.com/F6oQGsk

The plan is actually to leave Syria in as much chaos as they can when they are kicked out of Syria just like what they did when escaping Afghanistan. Part of that plan is to try and revive ISIS terrorists in the region.
This plan is pursued more seriously now that the oil infrastructure that US has been stealing from are targeted and the production is estimated to have decreased by at least 85%. With US casualties piling on, the cost of being there is exponentially increasing making it hard to hide them and justify the pretense.

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There is no other explanation for these strikes, but they do not want the stolen oil tap to stop. Otherwise, why aren't the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' deployment centers in other countries such as Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon targeted? It is also noteworthy that Turkey has escalated its attacks against Kurdish groups, whether in northern Syria or in Iraq, and these groups are directly supported by America. There is a conflict of interests in the Syrian field, and this is one of the goals that they succeeded in reaching after the failure of their attempt to overthrow the regime in Syria .
They are hitting Syrian resistance positions not Iran's since they know Iran would retaliate hard and they still haven't forgotten what a dozen hypersonic missiles did to their biggest and heavily defended base while their defense systems all watch impotently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWtBtkri-k
https://imgur.com/F6oQGsk

The plan is actually to leave Syria in as much chaos as they can when they are kicked out of Syria just like what they did when escaping Afghanistan. Part of that plan is to try and revive ISIS terrorists in the region.
This plan is pursued more seriously now that the oil infrastructure that US has been stealing from are targeted and the production is estimated to have decreased by at least 85%. With US casualties piling on, the cost of being there is exponentially increasing making it hard to hide them and justify the pretense.
This is an important point. Indeed, terrorist attacks have been repeated in many locations, whether in Syria or Iraq, and ISIS declares their adoption. ISIS is still present in the Syrian scene and will be used as a last pressure card.
All this comes in conjunction with persistent Israeli efforts to cancel the agreement with Iran on its nuclear file by putting pressure on its ally America .
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This is an important point. Indeed, terrorist attacks have been repeated in many locations, whether in Syria or Iraq, and ISIS declares their adoption. ISIS is still present in the Syrian scene and will be used as a last pressure card.
All this comes in conjunction with persistent Israeli efforts to cancel the agreement with Iran on its nuclear file by putting pressure on its ally America .
Most of the muslim countries are still fighting their battles - only Afghanistan has been able to send USA back.
Rest all the countries are suffering and looking for the help.
There is so much chaos these countries have created and later there are humanitarian aid for rehabilitation
It is a major fallacy when we say that the Islamic countries alone are suffering from the chaos caused by America through its allies of agents. There are countries in North America that suffer from the same problems when their policies oppose the interests of the United States. On the other hand, there are Islamic countries that do not suffer from any chaos, and the US intervention in their policies is very weak, such as the Sultanate of Oman, for example, or Turkey.
Anarchy exists where there are policies that contradict the interests of the great powers.
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Just when most of the world was recovering from the economic downturn caused by the pandemic, Vladimir Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine. That new disruption reversed the recovery in some places and pushed up the cost of living everywhere.
Ukraine and Russia are the breadbaskets for much of the world. But there's little farming on the frontlines.  That means prices for wheat, barley, corn are skyrocketed. 
A spike in gas and oil prices has pushed up heating bills. Europe in particular has come to depend heavily on Russian gas. Berlin heats and powers with natural gas - 95 percent of which comes from Russia.
And motorists across Europe are feeling the pinch at the pump, paying about 2 euros per liter for gas, which is about 10 dollars per gallon.
The true extent of these shockwaves depends on how long the war in Ukraine lasts, and the scale of the devastation and disruption it causes. That depends on Vladimir Putin. So far, there are no signs that he will call a halt to his invasion anytime soon.
In Germany, the number of people going to food pantries has risen dramatically. Some are refugees from Ukraine, while others are people who simply no longer can afford to buy groceries.
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All this comes in conjunction with persistent Israeli efforts to cancel the agreement with Iran on its nuclear file by putting pressure on its ally America .
That's what they want the public to believe, otherwise the Zioterrorists are dreaming of the day that Iran is fooled once again and signs JCPOA. The US spokesmen have already confirmed it many times!

Most of the muslim countries are still fighting their battles - only Afghanistan has been able to send USA back.
Well that's the Western wars that is always brought to West Asia aka Middle East simply because the colonizers are starving for energy and West Asia is the major source of it. It has nothing to do with "Muslim Countries".
So if some day the region gains stability and strong independent governments take control (like Iran did in 1979), they can start deciding the colonizer's fate. Which is why they destabilize the region to keep their own head above water (we can see what is happening to the West with a tiny bit of increase in energy prices!).

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All this comes in conjunction with persistent Israeli efforts to cancel the agreement with Iran on its nuclear file by putting pressure on its ally America .
That's what they want the public to believe, otherwise the Zioterrorists are dreaming of the day that Iran is fooled once again and signs JCPOA. The US spokesmen have already confirmed it many times!
But why do you think they want us to believe that? As far as I know, it is not in Israel's interest to have a nuclear power in the region capable of competing with it militarily. Iran has allies on the borders of Israel (Hezbollah in southern Lebanon and military bases in the form of militias stationed in several areas in Syria adjacent to Israel), and if Iran were able to obtain a nuclear weapon, its global position would become stronger and it would be able to provide support more boldly than it does today.
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September 02, 2022, 02:38:08 AM
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There is war in Ukraine - there is killing in Syria and Palestine and in Afghanistan. There is drought in Europe and there is floor in South Asia and there is crisis in Sri Lanka - which part of the world is in peace?
But the Russian war has a serious impact on the world - may there be peace and blessing upon the world

From a global economic point of view, Syria and Afghanistan are not important. Even in terms of crude oil production, Syria ranks much below other countries in the middle east. Afghanistan is even more irrelevant. On the other hand, Russia (and to some extent Ukraine) are among the most crucial countries in terms of commodities. Russia is the top producer of oil, gas and potash fertilizer. Russia and Ukraine are among the top producers of wheat and sunflower oil. And for Europe, most of the gas pipelines run through Ukraine.

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There is war in Ukraine - there is killing in Syria and Palestine and in Afghanistan. There is drought in Europe and there is floor in South Asia and there is crisis in Sri Lanka - which part of the world is in peace?
But the Russian war has a serious impact on the world - may there be peace and blessing upon the world

From a global economic point of view, Syria and Afghanistan are not important. Even in terms of crude oil production, Syria ranks much below other countries in the middle east. Afghanistan is even more irrelevant. On the other hand, Russia (and to some extent Ukraine) are among the most crucial countries in terms of commodities. Russia is the top producer of oil, gas and potash fertilizer. Russia and Ukraine are among the top producers of wheat and sunflower oil. And for Europe, most of the gas pipelines run through Ukraine.
I think that all of these events are linked to each other in one way or another. It cannot be asserted that one region is more important than another, or that an issue around which a conflict revolves somewhere in the world (on an international scale) is more or less important than another issue.
For example, I see that the current Chinese crisis on the island of Taiwan is no less important than the energy crises caused by the Ukrainian conflict.
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I can't understand what is happening with Russia. Today Putin have given orders to people entering into Russia from Ukraine to be provided with all kinds of help. Even they will be given financial aids. The impact the war left all around the world is really big, as far concerned Russia is placed at a good position whereas Ukraine is suffering amidst all sort of support from World countries.

Do you really think that the status of a world outcast for many decades, isolation from the world, the status of "moral freaks" is a good position for Russia? Smiley Does Ukraine SUFFER from the help of the whole world? Are you seriously ? You probably do not quite understand what will happen in 2023. I highly recommend studying the energy policy of the EU, as well as thinking about why oil is now rapidly falling, and where will Russia go with excess gas if it does not have storage facilities, and the gas pipeline cannot easily switch to gas flow to China, for example!

PS The only thing Ukraine is suffering from now is the terrorist attack on its peaceful cities, the murder of civilians, by the new Nazis - Russians. But this issue is already being resolved, Russia will not spoil the mood of the whole adequate world for a long time Smiley

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Just when most of the world was recovering from the economic downturn caused by the pandemic, Vladimir Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine. That new disruption reversed the recovery in some places and pushed up the cost of living everywhere.
Ukraine and Russia are the breadbaskets for much of the world. But there's little farming on the frontlines.  That means prices for wheat, barley, corn are skyrocketed. 
A spike in gas and oil prices has pushed up heating bills. Europe in particular has come to depend heavily on Russian gas. Berlin heats and powers with natural gas - 95 percent of which comes from Russia.
And motorists across Europe are feeling the pinch at the pump, paying about 2 euros per liter for gas, which is about 10 dollars per gallon.
The true extent of these shockwaves depends on how long the war in Ukraine lasts, and the scale of the devastation and disruption it causes. That depends on Vladimir Putin. So far, there are no signs that he will call a halt to his invasion anytime soon.
In Germany, the number of people going to food pantries has risen dramatically. Some are refugees from Ukraine, while others are people who simply no longer can afford to buy groceries.

I will assume that you do not quite understand what the USSR is, and today's Russia. If the USSR was just a bastard anti-human country, then modern Russia is an extremely bastard Nazi terrorist entity. His goal is not to make himself, his country better, but to make everyone around worse! This is such a negative derivative of the USSR. And what we are now seeing in the form of Russia is many orders of magnitude worse than Nazi Germany. Terrorist Nazism and complete anti-humanity, the desire to live in shit themselves and force everyone else - these are the main values ​​​​of modern Russia! Therefore, there is only one way out - to destroy it as Nazi Germany!

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About 70,000 people came out for a three-hour protest against the government in Prague

The organizers criticized high energy prices and the pro-Western course of the current government. They asked their representatives for permission to conclude short-term contracts for the supply of cheap gas and oil. Grin

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I look to it that the war affecting the economy of every country and with research about it , Al-Jazeera gave detail of how some countries is affected and if the war did not stop , more of the country will keep suffering. Russia is part of the biggest supplier in oil and the short suorpply is affecting the world. The war is affecting the europe countries hard because two countries in the war are two big supplies to europe. Russia cut supply of oil to euro and that affecting production, gas use. The Ukraine economy supply large amount of iron, steel, ore,stag and ash to the world and euro now in shortage include animal vegetable fats and oil to euro and the other countries.

This is hard time for economy to survive what is your thinking about the collapsing of world economy with highing inflation.


It's really hard to define how much impact the war is having, after all we were due for a proper recession if we exclude the randomness that was the Covid dip. There has definitely been a strong impact, Europe is a big contributor both to the global economy and a large buyer of things from places like China, so it has huge ripple effects if demand is being suppressed. Oil prices spiking is also a pretty reliable indicator that a recession will be coming soon after. All this has created some pretty wild inflation, it was hard to contain with just the after effects of the global pandemic but this war that Russia is waging on the edge of Europe has thrown all normality out the window. Russia has just cut off gas supplies and finally shown it's true face, that it is a useless trading partner and will have to sell it's primary source of income - natural resources - to other places and get a much lower price in return.

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But why do you think they want us to believe that?
It's all political nonsense Smiley
Basically they are praying every day that Iran accepts JCPOA (ie. the only thing that can prevent Iran from being a threshold country), but in their propaganda machines they pretend to be against it. This gives some dumb politicians in Iran that are supporting JCPOA the opportunity to bash others who aren't as being Zio supporters! At least this is what they did back in 2015 and it worked to some extent. It no longer works though in 2022 though...

From a global economic point of view, Syria and Afghanistan are not important. Even in terms of crude oil production, Syria ranks much below other countries in the middle east. Afghanistan is even more irrelevant.
Actually both countries have tremendous geopolitical importance that also affects economy even considering energy.

For starters if you look at the world map they are in a very major and important route that passes all through Asia connecting Mediterranean sea (Europe) to all over Asia (including China and Russia) from land. In fact Syria has a couple of very strategically important ports that Iran, China and Russia are using for their trades. As you may know the first step in economic point of view is security of routes.

Additionally when a region is destabilized, all that chaos pours into the whole neighborhood. So for example when Syria is being destabilized and it is US that is doing the destabilization, their forces are going to be hit all around the region which means for example Qatar and Saudi Arabia are hit and that threatens oil and gas supplies.

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Actually both countries have tremendous geopolitical importance that also affects economy even considering energy.

For starters if you look at the world map they are in a very major and important route that passes all through Asia connecting Mediterranean sea (Europe) to all over Asia (including China and Russia) from land. In fact Syria has a couple of very strategically important ports that Iran, China and Russia are using for their trades. As you may know the first step in economic point of view is security of routes.

Additionally when a region is destabilized, all that chaos pours into the whole neighborhood. So for example when Syria is being destabilized and it is US that is doing the destabilization, their forces are going to be hit all around the region which means for example Qatar and Saudi Arabia are hit and that threatens oil and gas supplies.

The importance of Afghanistan can be seen from the fact that USA has not forgotten it. Very recently they did a drone attack killing Ayman al-Zawahiri and the air strike was done using air route that passes via Pakistan. USA has complete control over this region via Pakistan and Afghanistan until Taliban took complete control of Kabul.
The last Prime minister of Pakistan did show eyes to USA and other western countries and was quickly removed from power using Pakistan army. Afghanistan is important as it allow USA to sit on borders of China and keep a close eye on Russia also. 

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No matter how it sounds now, it’s somewhat cynical, but the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine, and with elements of a terrorist-economic war against the EU, will give excellent results:
- The world will finally see what a terrible bastard they have created in the form of terrorist Russia. They will feel it "on their own skin", because previously they played either fools or infantiles, hoping that trouble would bypass them.
- The world stops any interaction with a terrorist country, a murderer country, a cowardly liar country.
- The EU economy will never again depend on the resources of a terrorist country
- Sanctions will at least lead to the degradation of the Russian economy to the level of the 19th century, the population degraded Putin himself and very successfully Smiley At best, Russia as an integral state will cease to exist and fall apart into many independent, free states.

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No matter how it sounds now, it’s somewhat cynical, but the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine, and with elements of a terrorist-economic war against the EU, will give excellent results:
- The world will finally see what a terrible bastard they have created in the form of terrorist Russia. They will feel it "on their own skin", because previously they played either fools or infantiles, hoping that trouble would bypass them.
- The world stops any interaction with a terrorist country, a murderer country, a cowardly liar country.
- The EU economy will never again depend on the resources of a terrorist country
- Sanctions will at least lead to the degradation of the Russian economy to the level of the 19th century, the population degraded Putin himself and very successfully Smiley At best, Russia as an integral state will cease to exist and fall apart into many independent, free states.

How Russia is retaliating against other countries, tells us that sanctions are working. The US and EU countries shouldn't let their guard down by tightening sanctions as much as possible (not lift them). With mounting pressure against Russia, it should only be a matter of time before Putin admits defeat and everything goes back to normal in Ukraine and the rest of the world. The longer Ukraine resists Russian forces, the faster Russia's army will fall (due to lack of supplies, soldiers, etc).

I just hope we see the light at the end of the tunnel soon for the good of the global economy. Both crypto and stocks have been severely affected because of the deteriorating global economy. Unless this mess goes away, we can't expect to see prices rise anytime soon. Just my thoughts Grin

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