Germans are looking to firewood for energy as natural gas prices soar

[be.open]

These are horror stories for ordinary people who are unfamiliar with nuclear power plant protection technologies. The protective dome of the reactor is capable of withstanding a direct hit by a tactical nuclear bomb with a yield of several tens of kilotons of TNT

Insert "not sure if kidding"-meme here.

or the fall of a passenger airliner.

That's several orders of magnitude less powerful.

I'm not joking, after the Chernobyl accident, a tremendous amount of work was done to correct the mistakes so that this would never happen again. I worked under contract with nuclear power plants at the beginning of the 2000s, in particular with Leningrad and Kursk (they are similar in type to the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant), and I was impressed by the continuous efforts of nuclear scientists to create and maintain the highest level of safety. I don’t think that the Japanese have a lower level of competence in this regard, it’s just that in the case of Fukushima, they were initially unlucky with geography.

ps Tell the World Trade Center buildings that a strike from a passenger airliner isn't heavy enough.

[Sithara007]

These are horror stories for ordinary people who are unfamiliar with nuclear power plant protection technologies. The protective dome of the reactor is capable of withstanding a direct hit by a tactical nuclear bomb with a yield of several tens of kilotons of TNT or the fall of a passenger airliner. The storage of spent nuclear fuel is a little more vulnerable, but its destruction can only lead to local radioactive contamination of the territory of the nuclear power plant. The maximum that Ukraine can achieve by shelling the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant is for the reactor's emergency protection system to work and the plant to stop working. So far, Ukraine has achieved only that it damaged power lines leading to the territory controlled by Kyiv, providing itself with a shortage of electricity.

I'm not joking, after the Chernobyl accident, a tremendous amount of work was done to correct the mistakes so that this would never happen again. I worked under contract with nuclear power plants at the beginning of the 2000s, in particular with Leningrad and Kursk (they are similar in type to the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant), and I was impressed by the continuous efforts of nuclear scientists to create and maintain the highest level of safety. I don’t think that the Japanese have a lower level of competence in this regard, it’s just that in the case of Fukushima, they were initially unlucky with geography.

ps Tell the World Trade Center buildings that a strike from a passenger airliner isn't heavy enough.

Great to hear about this! There are close to 500 nuclear plants around the world, and what happened in Fukushima was a once in a blue moon event. If managed properly, nuclear power plants can provide huge quantities of low-Carbon electricity to the world. Just look at Europe. France is the only country where the energy prices haven't gone up recently. The reason is that most of the electricity generated there comes from the nuclear power plants. On the other hand, Germany shut down almost all of their plants and as a result the energy bills there have gone up by up to 1,000%. Now they are burning coal and firewood to generate energy. Very environmentally friendly options, I am sure.

[DrBeer]

In light of the gas theme and the theme of Moscow propagandists "the Germans are looking for firewood and asking to send them felt boots", I would like to add a little positive! Yes, yes, positive. More precisely - the deepest idiocy, which is the basis of the Russian world and Russian propaganda 
No, this is not my subjective assessment, this is reality. And so:
Realizing that soon the entire population will have to eat gas and oil in Russia, because. adequate buyers will not buy it, and given the next snotty hysteria of the "old rubber ass" that he "turns everything off everything for everyone", the Kremlin terrorists decided to make one last attempt ... And they released a masterpiece clip called " The winter will be hard." As planned, Russian propaganda directors and other idiots wanted to show the EU how they would freeze, look for firewood, etc. nonsense. The clip was shot as expected shitty, the song is miserable, well, that is, everything is done in Russian. But the most important point! Guess - what is the shooting location where the whole horror of life without gas is transmitted? Have you guessed? No, not a European city whose views have been superimposed with a simulated non-standard low temperature. Russian propaganda did not find anything better to show the degraded city, in which there are constant problems with the provision of gas and other systemic problems, and removed ... RUSSIAN CITY Krasnoyarsk!
By the way - you know that this rather large city, for the most part, is heated, not very well, for many decades TPPs on .... COAL! No gas in the most gas country!

PS. Well, Russians, lovers of fakes - how is Russian oil doing there? Have you already come up with recipes for sausages and potatoes from gas? Winter on the race ahead will be hard!

[be.open]

Meanwhile, in Germany, the first case of readjustment due to the energy crisis has taken place. Large toilet paper maker Hackle is trying to avoid bankruptcy. The star of the pandemic turned out to be too energy-intensive and could not withstand the rapid growth of utility tariffs. At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

[LoyceV]

At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

Is your own life so sad you need to convince yourself others have it worse to justify how you live or something?

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At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

Is your own life so sad you need to convince yourself others have it worse to justify how you live or something?

Your country has declared an economic war on my country, and we are on opposite sides of this barricade. Why shouldn't I rejoice as the vaunted German machine falls apart through its own stupidity? I will dance on the bones of German industry and urinate on her grave. So that you better understand the words of Otto von Bismarck "never fight the Russians." 

Meanwhile, the court of the canton of Zug (Switzerland) extended the moratorium on the bankruptcy of Nord Stream 2 AG operator Nord Stream 2 AG for another 4 months - now until January 10, 2023.

[stompix]

So that you better understand the words of Otto von Bismarck "never fight the Russians."  

Weird
Napoleon the third didn't get the memo when it beat the crap out of you kicking you out of Crimea
Katsura Tarō didn't get the memo when you suffered the first defeat of a European power by an Asian one
Wilhelm II forgot about it when it kicked your asses to Siberia in ww1
Józef Piłsudski probably was unable to read back in 1922

I love how your history starts with Napoleon and goes straight to Hitler, then forget the rest.

Is your own life so sad you need to convince yourself others have it worse to justify how you live or something?

That's what I was telling you about the so-called EUSSR, if you had lived truly under the USSR, you would know that this is the norm, the only times we were hearing stuff from the west were the ones when there were riots in the US and we had hours over hours of radio shows telling us the US is going through a civil war and victory was at hand, soon we will have two loaves of bread!!!!

Just look at Europe. France is the only country where the energy prices haven't gone up recently.

Seriously, stick to the gambling board where everyone can have as many opinions as holes, over and over you prove you know shit about Europe so how about you just stop worrying about others?
 https://www.rte-france.com/en/eco2mix/market-data

[DrBeer]

At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

Is your own life so sad you need to convince yourself others have it worse to justify how you live or something?

Very accurately noted. This is a feature of the mentality of the representatives of the Russian world. Completely deny reality, invent explanations that it is not their fault that they did, but someone else ... And by itself - do not try to make life better in your own country, but try to do bad things to others and prevent them from living normally. This is historical, there is nothing to be done about it. Although Ukraine has found a correction option - now hundreds of Russians are being "corrected" near Kharkov and forever!
And now, having unleashed a terrorist war in Europe, violating all agreements, obligations, and having received a well-deserved punishment in the form of sanctions, they say that "... it was you who attacked us, this is an economic war against us"
It feels like the whole of Russia has become a victim of some kind of local, within the country, testing of new psychotropic drugs, but the experiment did not go according to plan at all

[Sithara007]

At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

Is your own life so sad you need to convince yourself others have it worse to justify how you live or something?

Era of direct warfare is over. Nowadays, war is being fought using proxies and through economic means. When the Russian economy goes down, and the Ruble gets devalued, I can see a lot of celebrations in the Western media. I remember the wild reactions when the exchange rates went down to 1 USD = 140 RUR within the first few weeks of the war. Now the Europeans are suffering from sky high electricity prices and a number of industrial units are closing down. Now it is the turn of the Russians to celebrate.

[Davidvictorson]

People will suffer, even common people. There isn't a lot of timber in Germany. It will be gone quite quickly if people have to burn that to stay warm. Why should individuals bear the consequences of their leaders' decisions? People now pay more for energy than they do for rent, which is sad. According to a proverb from West Africa, There is a west African proverb that say, if one finger brought oil it soiled the others. It needs no further explanation.

[pooya87]

When the Russian economy goes down, and the Ruble gets devalued, I can see a lot of celebrations in the Western media.

That's one of many double standards that exists in the "West" and I'm afraid with the new world order we are going to see a lot more of it until the transition completes.

Now it is the turn of the Russians to celebrate.

That's just as bad though. It's the regular people in Europe who suffer and they don't give a shit about Ukraine, Russia or their own government and their policies. All they care about is stability in their lives. Which is why we are seeing increasing protests all around Europe for the past 6 months against their own government, European Union and even NATO.

[be.open]

When the Russian economy goes down, and the Ruble gets devalued, I can see a lot of celebrations in the Western media.

That's one of many double standards that exists in the "West" and I'm afraid with the new world order we are going to see a lot more of it until the transition completes.

Now it is the turn of the Russians to celebrate.

That's just as bad though. It's the regular people in Europe who suffer and they don't give a shit about Ukraine, Russia or their own government and their policies. All they care about is stability in their lives. Which is why we are seeing increasing protests all around Europe for the past 6 months against their own government, European Union and even NATO.

Why is this bad? Let Europeans take to the squares more actively, rallies, protest and storm city halls. Isn't that what European politicians wanted with sanctions, so that the Russians went to rallies and overthrew the Putin regime? If you don't like double standards, you need to be consistent about it.

[LoyceV]

When the Russian economy goes down, and the Ruble gets devalued, I can see a lot of celebrations in the Western media.

Don't confuse the media for the people. I'm not celebrating when Russian people are suffering because of sanctions. It's the normal people who suffer, even though they have nothing to do with the current situation.

[Wind_FURY]

Meanwhile, in Germany, the first case of readjustment due to the energy crisis has taken place. Large toilet paper maker Hackle is trying to avoid bankruptcy. The star of the pandemic turned out to be too energy-intensive and could not withstand the rapid growth of utility tariffs. At this rate in Germany, it will soon be a problem not only to take a hot shower, but also to wipe your ass.

A friend also told me that there was also an announcement that traffic lights would also go through a rotational black out? This winter, the joke about turning off Christmas lights as a means to stop the wasteful use of electricity, and as my favorite debate against "wasteful POW electricity usage", is going to become true. I believe for the first time in Bitcoin's existence, we will see the total mining/hashing power scale down.

[LoyceV]

A friend also told me that there was also an announcement that traffic lights would also go through a rotational black out? This winter, the joke about turning off Christmas lights as a means to stop the wasteful use of electricity, and as my favorite debate against "wasteful POW electricity usage", is going to become true.

EU no doubt uses this to push their "consume less energy" agenda. It's even weirder in that sense that many European countries have now lowered energy taxes or are even subsidizing energy for companies. High prices are a great way to reduce energy consumption, but also a great way to make voters unhappy. They must be torn between their ideals and their popularity

I believe for the first time in Bitcoin's existence, we will see the total mining/hashing power scale down.

Unlikely. Not much hashing happens in areas with high power prices.

[pooya87]

Why is this bad? Let Europeans take to the squares more actively, rallies, protest and storm city halls. Isn't that what European politicians wanted with sanctions, so that the Russians went to rallies and overthrew the Putin regime? If you don't like double standards, you need to be consistent about it.

Well, it's a conundrum.

On one hand we have western regimes that propaganda and attempts at regime change is among their smallest crimes. They have been on a murdering spree for decades around the world and have supported terrorism like US or have even become a sanctuary for terrorist cults like Albania and Sweden.
(We also haven't forgotten the chemical WMDs Germany made to be dropped on our cities in 1980's.)

On the other hand we have regular people who have no idea what is going on in the world or in their own country for that matter. They can't even point to Russia on the map! All their information comes from the propaganda machine that is brainwashing them every day in the name of democracy, while they work 8-10 hours a day until they are 65-70 years old.

The regular people are paying the cost as they are caught up in 3 wars (economy, food and energy) their governments started. Nobody can be happy about that.

[be.open]

Why is this bad? Let Europeans take to the squares more actively, rallies, protest and storm city halls. Isn't that what European politicians wanted with sanctions, so that the Russians went to rallies and overthrew the Putin regime? If you don't like double standards, you need to be consistent about it.

Well, it's a conundrum.

On one hand we have western regimes that propaganda and attempts at regime change is among their smallest crimes. They have been on a murdering spree for decades around the world and have supported terrorism like US or have even become a sanctuary for terrorist cults like Albania and Sweden.
(We also haven't forgotten the chemical WMDs Germany made to be dropped on our cities in 1980's.)

On the other hand we have regular people who have no idea what is going on in the world or in their own country for that matter. They can't even point to Russia on the map! All their information comes from the propaganda machine that is brainwashing them every day in the name of democracy, while they work 8-10 hours a day until they are 65-70 years old.

The regular people are paying the cost as they are caught up in 3 wars (economy, food and energy) their governments started. Nobody can be happy about that.

Perhaps you are right, ordinary people are not responsible for the decisions of their elected politicians. Even in the best democracy there is a gulf between the layman and the ruling elite.

[pooya87]

Even in the best democracy there is a gulf between the layman and the ruling elite.

It is worth knowing that those who invented democracy defined it as "convincing people that dogshit tastes like candy".

[Wind_FURY]

A friend also told me that there was also an announcement that traffic lights would also go through a rotational black out? This winter, the joke about turning off Christmas lights as a means to stop the wasteful use of electricity, and as my favorite debate against "wasteful POW electricity usage", is going to become true.

EU no doubt uses this to push their "consume less energy" agenda. It's even weirder in that sense that many European countries have now lowered energy taxes or are even subsidizing energy for companies. High prices are a great way to reduce energy consumption, but also a great way to make voters unhappy. They must be torn between their ideals and their popularity

I believe the probable consequences from the decisions that they're going to make from the current energy crisis will be more than just "for the votes" for the next election. If an equilibrium/balance isn't found, it could put their countries into a situation of chaos, and possibly anarchy.

I believe for the first time in Bitcoin's existence, we will see the total mining/hashing power scale down.

Unlikely. Not much hashing happens in areas with high power prices.

That's the point! There's going to be higher power prices everywhere during the winter.

[LoyceV]

I believe for the first time in Bitcoin's existence, we will see the total mining/hashing power scale down.

Unlikely. Not much hashing happens in areas with high power prices.

That's the point! There's going to be higher power prices everywhere during the winter.

I highly doubt it. High gas prices are still largely a local phenomenon in Europe. Americans may complain about their 30% rise, but I expect hashing power of new miners to go up enough to make up for the small increase in electricity cost to keep increasing the hashrate.
The looming worldwide recession may lead to a lower demand for energy, which can lead to lower prices. I don't dare guess how that's going to influence Bitcoin's price, but I expect the Bitcoin price to have a bigger influence on the hashrate than the lowest global electricity prices.