Germans are looking to firewood for energy as natural gas prices soar

[pooya87]

BTW, I heard that the government in Switzerland is threatening to imprison people, if they heat their homes above 19 degree Celsius in the winter season. LOL.. I was thinking that the Swiss are more intelligent compared to the other Europeans. Seems like they are not.

https://www.blick.ch/politik/gfroerlis-muessen-im-ernstfall-bibbern-heiz-suendern-droht-der-knast-id17851055.html

That's democracy. Heat your home and they'll imprison you for up to 3 years and you have to pay a fine of up to 3000 Francs! And to think they started this energy crisis themselves...

But in all seriousness this is another evidence added that to the list of reasons I posted here about how Europeans claiming their storages are near full is most probably a big fat lie.

[LoyceV]

I am confused. Why energy prices are so high in France? As far as I know, the French get around 70% of their energy from nuclear powerplants (and I am sure that they have spare capacity as well). They are not very dependent on natural gas. So why the prices are going up there?

Without looking for further sources, I can think of 2 reasons: many of the nuclear plants were in maintenance, and the European electricity market doesn't end at national borders.

BTW, I heard that the government in Switzerland is threatening to imprison people, if they heat their homes above 19 degree Celsius in the winter season.

I can't read most of it, and I don't know blick.ch, but it looks more like a parody than a serious website.
Is prison going to be heated?

I'm just curious how warm the European Commission building in Brussels will be in winter. I bet it's not 19 degrees.

[bakasabo]

firewood has abundant stock and will never run out

Are you sure you know what firewood is ? Google say, that globally, there are estimated to be 3.04 trillion trees. How long do you think it will take to cut every single tree, handle and dry them? Maybe 10 or 20 years. Google say that it takes 30-50 years for a tree to grow up. And not every tree is suitable to be a firewood. Some tree just burn and dont give much warmth.

[pooya87]

I can't read most of it, and I don't know blick.ch, but it looks more like a parody than a serious website.

It is most probably an exaggeration or at the very least it is a rumor to act as a scare tactic to maybe get some people to reduce their energy consumption/wastage. Not to mention it is extremely difficult and expensive to find, prove and prosecute anybody who breaks such a silly law!

BTW the spokesperson for the Department of Economic Affairs, Markus Spörndli started this rumor or whatever it is... based on Federal Act on National Economic Supply that gives NESA authority to take "measures" that include fines and imprisonment to ensure supply of essential goods and services that includes energy sources, foodstuff, etc.

Chapter 7 Criminal Provisions
Art. 49 Violation of national economic supply measures
1 Any person who wilfully:

a. violates regulations on measures based on Articles 5 paragraph 4, 28 paragraph 1, 29, 31 paragraph 1, 32 paragraph 1 and 33 paragraph 2;
b. ignores a ruling based on this Act or related implementing provisions despite being notified of the penalties that may be imposed under this Article;
c. breaches a contract entered into on the basis of this Act or related implementing provisions despite being notified of the penalties that may be imposed under this Article
is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or a monetary penalty.

2 If the offender acts negligently, the penalty shall be a monetary penalty not exceeding 180 daily penalty units.

[Betwrong]

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In general, the economic situation is stable ~

This made me laugh. I read somewhere that Russians, almost the same as North Koreans, are living in their imaginary world that has little to do with reality, but this post of yours showed the extent of that illusion that even I didn't expect.

Just look at these graphs showing the impact of sanctions on the Russian economy:

Yeah, "the economic situation is stable", sure.

Glad you're having fun. That you are slipping me some kind of charts, I am telling you about my personal feelings from my own life and the lives of my friends. The 2014 sanctions following the annexation of Crimea were far more painful than the current ones. At that time, the ruble more than doubled against the dollar and almost all goods and services more than doubled in price, including the necessary ones, which cannot simply be abandoned. Now goods and services from the category of essential ones have risen in price by 5-10%, and some have even fallen in price, which is why the sanctions are easily tolerated.

People in Russia don't have to worry that they won't be able to buy food or pay their electricity and heating bills. Do you really think that I should suffer a lot because I can't go to the IMAX cinema or buy a can of Coca-Cola? This made me laugh too.

Well, it turns out that it's easier to name the brands that did not leave Russia than those who did. So, it's surely not only Coca-Cola and IMAX; it's Microsoft, IBM, Adobe, Netflix, Spotify, Intel, Nvidia ... it's McDonald's, FFS!

I know you can survive without all that stuff, especially if you are getting your energy from the fact that you are fighting for a good cause and some evil forces united to defeat you, but you seem too intelligent to believe in what Russian propaganda is saying. You know that Russian soldiers are not fighting for a good cause here in Ukraine. In fact, among all Russian citizens, it's people like you, who suffer the most from all of this. So, yeah, I'm kinda glad my words made you laugh too. You need strength to survive until Putin's regime is over. But don't worry. Now it's obvious that it won't take long.

[Sithara007]

I am confused. Why energy prices are so high in France? As far as I know, the French get around 70% of their energy from nuclear powerplants (and I am sure that they have spare capacity as well). They are not very dependent on natural gas. So why the prices are going up there?

Without looking for further sources, I can think of 2 reasons: many of the nuclear plants were in maintenance, and the European electricity market doesn't end at national borders.
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Wikipedia says that nuclear power generation in France has decreased from 379.5 TWh in 2018 to 290 TWh in 2022, since a number of plants closed down due to maintenance to stress corrosion (32 out of a total of 56 nuclear reactors are not in operation now). Électricité de France (EDF) owns the nuclear power plants in France and manages them, and is 85% owned by the French government. Even then, it is not a fully government owned entity, they can't insist on selling all the electricity that is generated within France.

[bitgov]

I am confused. Why energy prices are so high in France? As far as I know, the French get around 70% of their energy from nuclear powerplants (and I am sure that they have spare capacity as well). They are not very dependent on natural gas. So why the prices are going up there?

Without looking for further sources, I can think of 2 reasons: many of the nuclear plants were in maintenance, and the European electricity market doesn't end at national borders.
~~~

Wikipedia says that nuclear power generation in France has decreased from 379.5 TWh in 2018 to 290 TWh in 2022, since a number of plants closed down due to maintenance to stress corrosion (32 out of a total of 56 nuclear reactors are not in operation now). Électricité de France (EDF) owns the nuclear power plants in France and manages them, and is 85% owned by the French government. Even then, it is not a fully government owned entity, they can't insist on selling all the electricity that is generated within France.

Now there will be more climate change issue with this burning and cutting wood.
The EU countries are in sever trouble by putting the sections on the Russia. Russia hold the key to oil and gas so they have an edge. Ukraine got help from everyone and now who is going to help EU? The survival without oil and fuel is impossible.

[tbterryboy]

I can't read most of it, and I don't know blick.ch, but it looks more like a parody than a serious website.

It is most probably an exaggeration or at the very least it is a rumor to act as a scare tactic to maybe get some people to reduce their energy consumption/wastage. Not to mention it is extremely difficult and expensive to find, prove and prosecute anybody who breaks such a silly law!

BTW the spokesperson for the Department of Economic Affairs, Markus Spörndli started this rumor or whatever it is... based on Federal Act on National Economic Supply that gives NESA authority to take "measures" that include fines and imprisonment to ensure supply of essential goods and services that includes energy sources, foodstuff, etc.

I agree that it is a scare tactic for sure. If the consumption stays the same, there will be some heat or something found from somewhere, maybe it will be paid a lot more but it would be found. Humanity suffered worse and we came out fine and I feel like we are going to do the same thing again.

Look at what we lived during the pandemic period, that alone should be a proof enough that humanity could endure so much and still come out on top. That wasn't an easy thing and we still managed to find a way to survive and go on. Many people passed away unfortunately, and humanity lost millions of people to it, and yet the world kept on turning and we are here today.

[Wind_FURY]

Plus who in Bitcointalk is actually living in Russia right now? Is there support for Putin, or are the people becoming discontented by the economic situation?

I live in Russia, in the Urals (about 2000 km from Moscow). As for the economic situation, I can say the following:
1. Utilities (electricity, gas, heating, etc.) have risen in price by about 5% over the past six months. Gasoline at gas stations has not risen in price. Basic foodstuffs have not risen in price, there was a surge in prices in early spring, then prices rolled back after the strengthening of the ruble.

2. Significantly more expensive cars, a significant drop in sales, friends who wanted to change the car abandoned this idea.

3. Recently, the price of food for Royal Canin cats, which ate my cat and cat (British and Scottish breed), has noticeably increased (by about 50%). Many types of new pet food made in Russia have appeared on the market. I consulted with a familiar veterinarian, she advised a good domestic food, my pets approved of it. In terms of money, food is slightly cheaper than Royal Canin before its sharp rise in price, that is, my budget for keeping animals has not changed.

That's good for your people that basic necessities' prices are stable. The luxury cars, that can wait until the situation gets better. Haha.

Plus your cats are happy, that's good!

4. I smoke cigarettes from farm tobacco, I used to buy French paper and filters for cigarettes from Mascotte. Recently, they have also risen sharply in price (by about 50%), I switched to Polish filters and Chinese super-thin paper, at a price they are about three times cheaper than French ones. The quality of the paper is the same, Polish filters are slightly worse than French ones, but not fundamentally.

5. Apple equipment, which is now imported into Russia under the parallel gray import scheme, has risen in price very much. But there are options, for example, a macbook pro on an m1 max chip with a 1TB ssd costs about 800 thousand rubles (about 12 thousand dollars) in Russia, a friend recently bought a new unpacked macbook pro for 250 thousand rubles, which was made for the UK market and imported into Russia through the United Arab Emirates. Laser engraving of a Russian keyboard costs 1,000 rubles.

I believe it would be the best opportunity to quit smoking tobacco, you can save more money to buy Bitcoin.

The Apple products, you can also live without them, just like the luxury cars.

In general, the economic situation is stable, if some European goods rise in price sharply due to sanctions, there is a quite adequate and budgetary replacement. It looks as if Western manufacturers are losing the Russian market due to their own sanctions, and their place is being taken by domestic or Chinese goods. My opinion is that the Europeans believed too much in the power of the brand.

There are no protest moods in Russia, Putin has a very large credit of trust among the population. There is no systemic opposition in Russia.

OK, then the things I heard about a conspiracy against Putin might only be propaganda.

[Synchronice]

People in Russia don't have to worry that they won't be able to buy food or pay their electricity and heating bills. Do you really think that I should suffer a lot because I can't go to the IMAX cinema or buy a can of Coca-Cola? This made me laugh too.

What's the meaning of life for you? Just to work, eat, drink vodka and sleep? If that's the purpose of life, then I'd say: If homeless people survive in Russia in winter, then Germans will survive in Germany without gas and electricity. But that's not gonna happen, you know. We weren't 100% dependent on Russia. Maybe the winter will be taught for some, but not Unbearable. But the quality of life will still be much better for the average German than it's now for the average Russian.

Russia is a country that has a lot of resources and still it's pretty poor compared to others. Definitely, there is a problem in your country and among people because it's the biggest country in the world with 145 million people and still it's still poorer than Italy and the quality of life is very low, except Moscow and Saint Petersburg and these two cities don't represent the whole Russia.
Also, I want to mention that Russians are really well-educated compared to other countries but still, the average American gets a higher salary than the smart, hard-working Russian within your country. What does that mean? There is a huge problem deep inside the country and people's mentality.

I think that the problem is that your country invests most of the money in the military, it's also corrupt as fuck with high nepotism. I don't understand what's the point of getting more and more lands, you don't even use most of your lands, so what's the point to invade three countries in the 21st century? It amazes me to see that there are still some people who support Putin.

[Ozero]

firewood has abundant stock and will never run out

Are you sure you know what firewood is ? Google say, that globally, there are estimated to be 3.04 trillion trees. How long do you think it will take to cut every single tree, handle and dry them? Maybe 10 or 20 years. Google say that it takes 30-50 years for a tree to grow up. And not every tree is suitable to be a firewood. Some tree just burn and dont give much warmth.

Everything must be used within reason. Often the trees grow old, fall and rot in the same forests. Therefore, sanitary felling and clearing of forests is necessary. Such wood may well be used for heating homes, and the ashes can be used as a valuable potash fertilizer for the soil. Europe is now refusing Russian energy carriers and thereby freeing itself from dependence on Russia. At the same time, it is switching to other suppliers and has set a course for a gradual transition to renewable heat sources. At first, of course, it will be difficult until everything gets better again, but in the long run, Russia will lose big.

[be.open]

People in Russia don't have to worry that they won't be able to buy food or pay their electricity and heating bills. Do you really think that I should suffer a lot because I can't go to the IMAX cinema or buy a can of Coca-Cola? This made me laugh too.

What's the meaning of life for you? Just to work, eat, drink vodka and sleep? If that's the purpose of life, then I'd say: If homeless people survive in Russia in winter, then Germans will survive in Germany without gas and electricity. But that's not gonna happen, you know. We weren't 100% dependent on Russia. Maybe the winter will be taught for some, but not Unbearable. But the quality of life will still be much better for the average German than it's now for the average Russian.

Russia is a country that has a lot of resources and still it's pretty poor compared to others. Definitely, there is a problem in your country and among people because it's the biggest country in the world with 145 million people and still it's still poorer than Italy and the quality of life is very low, except Moscow and Saint Petersburg and these two cities don't represent the whole Russia.
Also, I want to mention that Russians are really well-educated compared to other countries but still, the average American gets a higher salary than the smart, hard-working Russian within your country. What does that mean? There is a huge problem deep inside the country and people's mentality.

I think that the problem is that your country invests most of the money in the military, it's also corrupt as fuck with high nepotism. I don't understand what's the point of getting more and more lands, you don't even use most of your lands, so what's the point to invade three countries in the 21st century? It amazes me to see that there are still some people who support Putin.

Russia invaded Ukraine, of course, not at all because it lacks land. And not even in order to protect the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass, although this is stated as one of the main goals of the military special operation. Ukraine relied on anti-Russia in search of its self-identity after the collapse of the USSR, a continuous and growing existential threat has emanated and is emanating from Ukraine for Russia. Look at the emblem of the military intelligence of Ukraine - it depicts a sword stuck in a map of Russia. It is not very pleasant to have such an aggressive neighbor at hand, especially when this neighbor declares a plan to join NATO at the level of his constitution. Why this conversation when you ask about the meaning of life? Moreover, it does not matter what your standard of living is, if you do not have sovereignty, if you are not free. Russia has sovereignty, but Germany does not. Germany is occupied by the USA. If you have a better quality of life than in Russia, then you are just a prosperous slave. For Russians, freedom is not an empty phrase and definitely not a bargaining chip to buy access to spotify with it. Think about it at your leisure.

[Xampeuu]

Russia invaded Ukraine, of course, not at all because it lacks land. And not even in order to protect the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass, although this is stated as one of the main goals of the military special operation. Ukraine relied on anti-Russia in search of its self-identity after the collapse of the USSR, a continuous and growing existential threat has emanated and is emanating from Ukraine for Russia. Look at the emblem of the military intelligence of Ukraine - it depicts a sword stuck in a map of Russia. It is not very pleasant to have such an aggressive neighbor at hand, especially when this neighbor declares a plan to join NATO at the level of his constitution. Why this conversation when you ask about the meaning of life? Moreover, it does not matter what your standard of living is, if you do not have sovereignty, if you are not free. Russia has sovereignty, but Germany does not. Germany is occupied by the USA. If you have a better quality of life than in Russia, then you are just a prosperous slave. For Russians, freedom is not an empty phrase and definitely not a bargaining chip to buy access to spotify with it. Think about it at your leisure.

I agree - many of the EU countries has placed themselves in trouble but following the direction of USA and not they have ended up in more troublesome condition.
All the countries were imposing sanctions - thinking that Russia will be kneel down infront of them but Russia emerged as more power sovereign state.

What's even more painful is at times like this, western countries rely on gas and oil from Russia as fuel to support their economy, on the other hand Russia is fully sovereign and self-sufficient, here it looks as if it wakes up a sleeping tiger, and after that where lies the responsibility superpowers that seem to regulate them, and finally the energy crisis and inflation are soaring, if this situation continues then the solution is to find alternative energy.

[Sithara007]

Germany is a country that have good resource, and economically good. This time it is suffering the worse with climate changes as well as more other financial difficulties. One amongst is the insufficient oil. This will make them think of moving into renewable energy production. Maybe this year the country will suffer, but in the future it'll be more effective as it doesn't want to depend on other nation for oil.

One of the reasons why the Germans are suffering right now is because of their push towards renewable energy. Under pressure from the Green Party, they closed down almost all of their nuclear power plants. During the 1990s, nuclear power contributed to around 30% of the overall electricity generation in that country. Now this has fallen to 8%, and the Green party wants to reduce it to 0% by the end of this decade. The most polluting source (Lignite) still contributes to around 20% of all the power generation.

[bittraffic]

Russia invaded Ukraine, of course, not at all because it lacks land. And not even in order to protect the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass, although this is stated as one of the main goals of the military special operation. Ukraine relied on anti-Russia in search of its self-identity after the collapse of the USSR, a continuous and growing existential threat has emanated and is emanating from Ukraine for Russia. Look at the emblem of the military intelligence of Ukraine - it depicts a sword stuck in a map of Russia. It is not very pleasant to have such an aggressive neighbor at hand, especially when this neighbor declares a plan to join NATO at the level of his constitution. Why this conversation when you ask about the meaning of life? Moreover, it does not matter what your standard of living is, if you do not have sovereignty, if you are not free. Russia has sovereignty, but Germany does not. Germany is occupied by the USA. If you have a better quality of life than in Russia, then you are just a prosperous slave. For Russians, freedom is not an empty phrase and definitely not a bargaining chip to buy access to spotify with it. Think about it at your leisure.

I agree - many of the EU countries has placed themselves in trouble but following the direction of USA and not they have ended up in more troublesome condition.
All the countries were imposing sanctions - thinking that Russia will be kneel down infront of them but Russia emerged as more power sovereign state.

What's even more painful is at times like this, western countries rely on gas and oil from Russia as fuel to support their economy, on the other hand Russia is fully sovereign and self-sufficient, here it looks as if it wakes up a sleeping tiger, and after that where lies the responsibility superpowers that seem to regulate them, and finally the energy crisis and inflation are soaring, if this situation continues then the solution is to find alternative energy.

They kind of shooting themselves in the foot.
It must be one of the dumb strategies to corner a country that is not just equipped with nukes but also its source of energy, why they did not think Putin will cut the gas supply is just a bad calculation. The war started and they all sanction each other.

But don't you think freezing Germans to death is murder?

[Wind_FURY]

Germany is a country that have good resource, and economically good. This time it is suffering the worse with climate changes as well as more other financial difficulties. One amongst is the insufficient oil. This will make them think of moving into renewable energy production. Maybe this year the country will suffer, but in the future it'll be more effective as it doesn't want to depend on other nation for oil.

That's true, Germany does have natural resources available that scale from natural gas to coal, but is it enough to supply their population's growing energy needs? Are the policy makers making the right policies to actually use those resources and be independent from foreign countries for their energy needs? I'm not trying to disprespect Germany, and people from Germany, but the answer is "I believe not".

[Synchronice]

It is not very pleasant to have such an aggressive neighbor at hand, especially when this neighbor declares a plan to join NATO at the level of his constitution.

Maybe it's not very pleasant for Ukrainians to have Russians as a neighbours. Were they or any post-soviet countries satisfied with being a part of soviet union? No, so they want to get away from but you want to keep them so the war has started. If the quality of life and other criteria were high in Russia, I believe your neighbours would wish to be with you.

Why this conversation when you ask about the meaning of life? Moreover, it does not matter what your standard of living is, if you do not have sovereignty, if you are not free. Russia has sovereignty, but Germany does not. Germany is occupied by the USA. If you have a better quality of life than in Russia, then you are just a prosperous slave. For Russians, freedom is not an empty phrase and definitely not a bargaining chip to buy access to spotify with it. Think about it at your leisure.

I think I feel more free in Germany than in Russia. When I was there in late 90s/ yearly 2000s when I was a kid, it was not safe there. There were a lot of drunk people in Moscow streets, Milizia was constantly stopping my father and mother and they were releasing us after getting some $ from us. And it was happening very often.
I have some good memories from there too, one thing to say for sure, there was a huge respect toward me, toward kids and children in overall. I was white and a little blonde with blue eyes, so when my mom or father was with me, they weren't stopping us or if they would stop and I would start crying or would look afraid, they were immediately going away from us.
My father is a very honest person and in Russia he was working as an engineer, but before that, as a builder. He was working with serious people and he was very appreciated for hard work and honesty. But outside of work, milizia was always trying to get money from us, can say the same on criminals in districts, so we were charged from both of them.

[af_newbie]

People in Russia don't have to worry that they won't be able to buy food or pay their electricity and heating bills. Do you really think that I should suffer a lot because I can't go to the IMAX cinema or buy a can of Coca-Cola? This made me laugh too.

What's the meaning of life for you? Just to work, eat, drink vodka and sleep? If that's the purpose of life, then I'd say: If homeless people survive in Russia in winter, then Germans will survive in Germany without gas and electricity. But that's not gonna happen, you know. We weren't 100% dependent on Russia. Maybe the winter will be taught for some, but not Unbearable. But the quality of life will still be much better for the average German than it's now for the average Russian.

Russia is a country that has a lot of resources and still it's pretty poor compared to others. Definitely, there is a problem in your country and among people because it's the biggest country in the world with 145 million people and still it's still poorer than Italy and the quality of life is very low, except Moscow and Saint Petersburg and these two cities don't represent the whole Russia.
Also, I want to mention that Russians are really well-educated compared to other countries but still, the average American gets a higher salary than the smart, hard-working Russian within your country. What does that mean? There is a huge problem deep inside the country and people's mentality.

I think that the problem is that your country invests most of the money in the military, it's also corrupt as fuck with high nepotism. I don't understand what's the point of getting more and more lands, you don't even use most of your lands, so what's the point to invade three countries in the 21st century? It amazes me to see that there are still some people who support Putin.

Russia invaded Ukraine, of course, not at all because it lacks land. And not even in order to protect the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass, although this is stated as one of the main goals of the military special operation. Ukraine relied on anti-Russia in search of its self-identity after the collapse of the USSR, a continuous and growing existential threat has emanated and is emanating from Ukraine for Russia. Look at the emblem of the military intelligence of Ukraine - it depicts a sword stuck in a map of Russia. It is not very pleasant to have such an aggressive neighbor at hand, especially when this neighbor declares a plan to join NATO at the level of his constitution. Why this conversation when you ask about the meaning of life? Moreover, it does not matter what your standard of living is, if you do not have sovereignty, if you are not free. Russia has sovereignty, but Germany does not. Germany is occupied by the USA. If you have a better quality of life than in Russia, then you are just a prosperous slave. For Russians, freedom is not an empty phrase and definitely not a bargaining chip to buy access to spotify with it. Think about it at your leisure.

Freedom in Russia? Where do you get your data? Russian TV? You are joking, right?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

It is easy for you to say these things living in Germany and complain about your adopted country.

Go back to Russia and complain about the special military operation or Putin. You will taste Russian freedom in a New York minute.

Russian freedom is dispensed with 9mm bullets in the back of the head.

[Wind_FURY]

Germany is a country that have good resource, and economically good. This time it is suffering the worse with climate changes as well as more other financial difficulties. One amongst is the insufficient oil. This will make them think of moving into renewable energy production. Maybe this year the country will suffer, but in the future it'll be more effective as it doesn't want to depend on other nation for oil.

That's true, Germany does have natural resources available that scale from natural gas to coal, but is it enough to supply their population's growing energy needs? Are the policy makers making the right policies to actually use those resources and be independent from foreign countries for their energy needs? I'm not trying to disprespect Germany, and people from Germany, but the answer is "I believe not".

germans were not always good. They built themselves.They are the nation of people who knows how to work hard and bring the dream alive.

They have great infrastructure and beautiful land.

Read my post. My issue is not with the German people, because like all of the other people from other countries, whether it's Ukranian, Russian, or American, they are all good, hard-working, and they love their countries. My issue is with the government, and their policies.

Plus "war-time economy" to start in Europe if the European Comission's proposal for emergency powers is approved. The proposal includes giving the government the right to "ask" private companies to expand or repurpose their production lines, https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_5443

[af_newbie]

Germany is a country that have good resource, and economically good. This time it is suffering the worse with climate changes as well as more other financial difficulties. One amongst is the insufficient oil. This will make them think of moving into renewable energy production. Maybe this year the country will suffer, but in the future it'll be more effective as it doesn't want to depend on other nation for oil.

That's true, Germany does have natural resources available that scale from natural gas to coal, but is it enough to supply their population's growing energy needs? Are the policy makers making the right policies to actually use those resources and be independent from foreign countries for their energy needs? I'm not trying to disprespect Germany, and people from Germany, but the answer is "I believe not".

germans were not always good. They built themselves.They are the nation of people who knows how to work hard and bring the dream alive.

They have great infrastructure and beautiful land.

Read my post. My issue is not with the German people, because like all of the other people from other countries, whether it's Ukranian, Russian, or American, they are all good, hard-working, and they love their countries. My issue is with the government, and their policies.

Plus "war-time economy" to start in Europe if the European Comission's proposal for emergency powers is approved. The proposal includes giving the government the right to "ask" private companies to expand or repurpose their production lines, https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_22_5443

You are barking at the wrong tree. The root cause is the fascist Russian government that started this clusterfuck.

Russia waged an economic war on the West as they started a genocidal war in Ukraine.

Right now, no sane country would want to depend on the energy supply from Russia.

Not only that, NATO is frantically preparing for the actual war with Russia.

Europeans will find a way out of this nightmare. I am not sure Russia will.