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A good visualization of what was obvious to everyone: England reached the final only thanks to a convenient tournament bracket and luck/randomness. If you look at the quality of the game, they are somewhere in 4-7 place, no higher, it is not surprising that Southgate is leaving the post of head coach of the national team. He would have been forgiven if England had won the title with a dismal performance, but when there is no performance or result, you have to take responsibility.
Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner. Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final. Source: Gareth SouthgateThe decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because As I understand it, the new coach will start with games in the Nations League, where England fell into League B (lol) and where it is impossible to motivate the players to play normally since it is a rubbish tournament. Quite a dangerous situation (for a new coach) because if the results are weak then he will be subject to harsh criticism as everyone is waiting for the England team to progress but not vice versa. It will be interesting to see which group England will be in to qualify for the 2026 World Cup, there may also be surprises there.
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July 18, 2024, 06:49:58 PM |
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~snip~ Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany. That was the real final. Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card) So England reached the final by pure luck. That was a frickin' final before the final, Spain against Germany. You know? Intensity, ability, strategies - all there was. Spain, even with a man down, showed some serious cojones. You really have to respect this. England... they made it to the final, yes. But that was a lucky run. They were like a drunk man looking for his vehicle keys, rambling about without obvious direction throughout the competition. Southgate, man, some of his decisions made sense nowhere. He has some brilliant people here, but the strategies? He seemed to be reading from a completely other playbook. Against Spain, it was just painful to watch
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July 18, 2024, 07:08:46 PM |
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~snip~ Because the team was very poor, the real final, in my humble opinion, was Spain - Germany. That was the real final. Among other things, we can say that it is the match where Spain suffered the most (even a red card) So England reached the final by pure luck. That was a frickin' final before the final, Spain against Germany. You know? Intensity, ability, strategies - all there was. Spain, even with a man down, showed some serious cojones. You really have to respect this. England... they made it to the final, yes. But that was a lucky run. They were like a drunk man looking for his vehicle keys, rambling about without obvious direction throughout the competition. Southgate, man, some of his decisions made sense nowhere. He has some brilliant people here, but the strategies? He seemed to be reading from a completely other playbook. Against Spain, it was just painful to watch Spain didn't have a man down but it was at the last three minutes of the game. Germany match was the roughest match for Spain because the Germans were equal to the task but in every match at that stage, there must be a winner and that was how Spain was to score their last and final goal in the match. England has good world class players but lack of good manager is the cause of why those talents are wasting without winning a trophy for long. Now that he has being fired, I believe England will win a trophy.
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July 18, 2024, 07:46:10 PM |
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.
I believe that they made a mistake letting him go, but I also understand that Southgate may not want to be managing anymore after he lost two finals, that must have some toll on peoples soul and he just probably wants to relax a bit instead. I am sure that he is going to find some job, I do not assume that it is going to be a high level, not like he is going to replace Pep when he leaves City type of level, but I am sure that there must be plenty of job chances for him in all over Europe.
I however think that he will take this year off, and see about it next season, that looks alright. Mainly because he probably will want to take a little bit of vacation and relax, and secondly because it's already late July, meaning that most teams already have their managers, it is not going to be all that easy to handle anything else. He wouldn't be able to find a proper job at this point, and if he takes a year off, by next season I am sure that there will be teams knocking on his door.
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KTChampions
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July 19, 2024, 02:35:20 PM |
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.
I believe that they made a mistake letting him go, but I also understand that Southgate may not want to be managing anymore after he lost two finals, that must have some toll on peoples soul and he just probably wants to relax a bit instead.~
On average, Southgate was good (unless you take into account that England were knocked out of Group A in the Nations League, but no one cares about that tournament), two finals is a great achievement in itself. The problem is that England have been without titles for a very long time and all the fans want it to end. Even if the next coach wins silver at the 2026 World Cup, then silver at Euro 2028, I think he will be fired.
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July 19, 2024, 02:43:02 PM |
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.
Southgate is still one of the good enough coaches but when talking about the coach for the England national team he is not suitable because indeed the pressure and qualifications are too high for Southgate which makes this a little more difficult, especially we know that England is superior and with the quality of players who are strong enough because it is filled by the majority of excellent young players actually Southgate is difficult and even too small to manage a national team of this size. So it is undeniable that even though in the end they remained in the final, the performance shown by Southgate was actually ordinary and there was nothing interesting about what he did in the England squad during this Euro. The style of play that tends to be more monotonous and the difficulty of Southgate in determining the scheme and players who compete shows that he is not able to be in England, so when Southgate voluntarily resigned I think it was a good decision for him to do in this case.
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July 19, 2024, 02:49:59 PM |
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On average, Southgate was good (unless you take into account that England were knocked out of Group A in the Nations League, but no one cares about that tournament), two finals is a great achievement in itself. The problem is that England have been without titles for a very long time and all the fans want it to end. Even if the next coach wins silver at the 2026 World Cup, then silver at Euro 2028, I think he will be fired. Reaching two finals at the Euros is a brilliant achievement that Southgate presented to the England national team. This is not because the player material that England has is almost evenly distributed in every line, but his ability to formulate strategies has made England successful in winning runners up. It is very realistic for England to want a trophy because they have never won it so far, but in matches there is always the possibility of winning or losing. England must try again in the next edition, but becoming champion is not an easy matter because the competition is very competitive. Southgate departure means that the England coach seat is empty. The coach appointed to be Southgate successor must be superior and able to improve England abilities in order to win the gold medal.
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well.
I believe that they made a mistake letting him go, but I also understand that Southgate may not want to be managing anymore after he lost two finals, that must have some toll on peoples soul and he just probably wants to relax a bit instead.~
On average, Southgate was good (unless you take into account that England were knocked out of Group A in the Nations League, but no one cares about that tournament), two finals is a great achievement in itself. The problem is that England have been without titles for a very long time and all the fans want it to end. Even if the next coach wins silver at the 2026 World Cup, then silver at Euro 2028, I think he will be fired. Everything boils down to the expectation than the whole world have for England. Right from time the England national team has been known as a team that parades too much squad but in the end they will not be able to win a trophy. Even in the just concluded euro competition, I was so confident that England would end their trophylessness this time around. But it was quite unfortunate that Spain were much stronger than them. I have never been a party to those that criticizes Southgate. They have thought that it is easy to manage the English team and win trophies, not knowing that managing big players from different clubs is even a harder task. The higher the star players, the more the confusion. I would never rate Southgate as poor.
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` Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner. Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final. Source: Gareth SouthgateThe decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because Spain outplayed England. End of story. They controlled the ball, they controlled the game. Its what happens when you're a well-oiled machine against, let us say England is not blazing on all cylinders. About Southgate. Eight years without medals, and a resignation too late and too little. Time for a change. We cannot have a guy content drinking lemonade on the beach while League B England is still in progress. Thats loser talk. With the 2026 World Cup coming up, we need a winner, not a beach bum. England need fresh strategies and a different mindset. They want an offense that will score, not boring. England cannot keep being like a sleeping pill. Its time to wake up and win something, folks. Its time for a fresh age.
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July 19, 2024, 04:54:11 PM |
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` Yes, this may be unpleasant, but the fact is that Spain is above England in almost everything. That's why, when the live final took place, we could see that Spain's possession of the ball was very good and even dominating. Their mentality is really strong, not only offensive, but their defense is also very strong. The Spanish players were on fire, really on fire at that time, so their motivation increased drastically, matched by their ability as individuals and as a team when competing, which was extraordinary. Spain really deserves to be the winner. Yes, it is very natural for Southgate to resign as the main football manager/coach of England, if not, then he will become the subject of criticism because he is considered not really optimal. Yes, even though he certainly has done the best, however, he will not escape England's failure to become champion. But, whatever it is, thanks to him that brought England to the final. Source: Gareth SouthgateThe decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because Gareth Southgate have been one of the best managers in the history of the England national team but sadly, he have no major trophy to show for his incredible journey with the national team which i think was the reasons he decided to leave his role as the coach of the national team. Before the just concluded European Championship started, he had already said he'll leave his role as England boss if they fail to win the tournament but after his team reached the final of the competition, the English FA offered to extend his contract with the national team till 2026 FIFA World Cup. I thought he'll reconsider his ground and accept to remain but Southgate as a man of his words decided to stand by his words. England was the second best team in that final and I don't think there's anyone arguing with the fact that Spain was a better team than England in the UEFA Euros Championship so it's now left for English FA to get a good replacement for Gareth Southgate.
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Gareth Southgate have been one of the best managers in the history of the England national team but sadly, he have no major trophy to show for his incredible journey with the national team which i think was the reasons he decided to leave his role as the coach of the national team. Before the just concluded European Championship started, he had already said he'll leave his role as England boss if they fail to win the tournament but after his team reached the final of the competition, the English FA offered to extend his contract with the national team till 2026 FIFA World Cup. I thought he'll reconsider his ground and accept to remain but Southgate as a man of his words decided to stand by his words.
England was the second best team in that final and I don't think there's anyone arguing with the fact that Spain was a better team than England in the UEFA Euros Championship so it's now left for English FA to get a good replacement for Gareth Southgate.
Southgate was able to lead England to the finals on several occasions, a good achievement, but it's too bad he couldn't win a single trophy in those finals. Now they say that there are seven contenders for the post of head coach of the England national team, I don’t want to discuss possible candidates now, because many of them are either rumors or just guesses.
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July 19, 2024, 07:19:26 PM |
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Gareth Southgate have been one of the best managers in the history of the England national team but sadly, he have no major trophy to show for his incredible journey with the national team which i think was the reasons he decided to leave his role as the coach of the national team. Before the just concluded European Championship started, he had already said he'll leave his role as England boss if they fail to win the tournament but after his team reached the final of the competition, the English FA offered to extend his contract with the national team till 2026 FIFA World Cup. I thought he'll reconsider his ground and accept to remain but Southgate as a man of his words decided to stand by his words.
England was the second best team in that final and I don't think there's anyone arguing with the fact that Spain was a better team than England in the UEFA Euros Championship so it's now left for English FA to get a good replacement for Gareth Southgate.
Southgate was able to lead England to the finals on several occasions, a good achievement, but it's too bad he couldn't win a single trophy in those finals. Now they say that there are seven contenders for the post of head coach of the England national team, I don’t want to discuss possible candidates now, because many of them are either rumors or just guesses. I think that is the best Southgate can achieve to only see the cup and not lifting it which shows that he is not a lucky coach and does not fit to be England coach if they want to win trophies. England is such a big country in football and have good players but it is sad that countries who don't have talented players in good numbers like them have won European competitions. The new coach will be revealed to the public when he has being given the contract and there is no need to worry over that just relax and watch who will be the next coach of England.
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July 19, 2024, 07:46:13 PM |
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England must try again in the next edition, but becoming champion is not an easy matter because the competition is very competitive. Southgate departure means that the England coach seat is empty. The coach appointed to be Southgate successor must be superior and able to improve England abilities in order to win the gold medal.
That's how it works nothing good comes easy and those that have improved so much will continue to improve without setting back which means England just have to work harder to get that Gold medal . Although, most times football can come with luck but hardwork really matters for good lucks .Apart from England, Germany could have also gotten a very good chance to win this competition but they met Spain so soon(tough game but Spain had the luck).
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July 19, 2024, 11:18:15 PM |
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....................... The decision contains pros and cons, because after all, Southgate has accompanied England for a long time and this is not easy for him. He has, but it all has to end, and England still has to continue to improve and prepare for another championship match. Because
Gareth Southgate has maintained the morale of the England national soccer team for eight years. Now he needs support himself. Perhaps the best way for him to recover will be a vacation on the beach, where he can quietly drink lemonade and watch from the sidelines. I think it is time for a young and promising English coach to emerge who will favor an attacking style of play. This makes perfect sense and is probably what he is doing. Ha ha ha He has been carrying out this responsibility for a long time and at the age of 53, there are still no new rumors about whether he will completely quit football or become a club football manager like before for certain. What is clear is that England is currently in a hurry to immediately get a new coach as Southgate's successor. And they have officially opened various information regarding the requirements to become England national team football manager (main coach) on their official website page. There are several names associated with this, such as Graham Potter and also Eddie Howe. But both of them don't want to talk about this yet. Even Eddie Howe said that he was still committed to Newcastle. Source: Southgate's successor?
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That's how it works nothing good comes easy and those that have improved so much will continue to improve without setting back which means England just have to work harder to get that Gold medal . Although, most times football can come with luck but hardwork really matters for good lucks .Apart from England, Germany could have also gotten a very good chance to win this competition but they met Spain so soon(tough game but Spain had the luck). That's the reality, not only does England need to improve their development after failing to win a gold medal, a team like Spain also needs to maintain their performance if they want to win the title again. England are a good team, but they are experiencing a bit of difficulty this time, their performance is not as expected, there is still a lot to improve to reach the level of play shown by Spain. Luck will never be on their side if it is not accompanied by hard work, England's playing pattern needs to be improved and add sharpness to the front line like Spain did. They have to ensure victory in normal time with a convincing number of goals to put pressure on the opposing team, this has not been seen in the England squad at the Euros this time, so it is very natural that Spain is able to beat them easily without having to go through extra time.
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That's how it works nothing good comes easy and those that have improved so much will continue to improve without setting back which means England just have to work harder to get that Gold medal . Although, most times football can come with luck but hardwork really matters for good lucks .Apart from England, Germany could have also gotten a very good chance to win this competition but they met Spain so soon(tough game but Spain had the luck). That's the reality, not only does England need to improve their development after failing to win a gold medal, a team like Spain also needs to maintain their performance if they want to win the title again. England are a good team, but they are experiencing a bit of difficulty this time, their performance is not as expected, there is still a lot to improve to reach the level of play shown by Spain. Luck will never be on their side if it is not accompanied by hard work, England's playing pattern needs to be improved and add sharpness to the front line like Spain did. They have to ensure victory in normal time with a convincing number of goals to put pressure on the opposing team, this has not been seen in the England squad at the Euros this time, so it is very natural that Spain is able to beat them easily without having to go through extra time. Spain really deserves the Euro 2024 trophy because they performed consistently throughout the tournament, and I think they will have a bright future because their squad is currently dominated by young players, which means they still have plenty of time and opportunity to contribute and continue to grow even better. Whoever the enemy, Spain is always ready, and the most important thing, they have a winning mentality even though there are many young players. So Spain won over England, France and Germany not because of sheer luck but because they were better than their opponents.
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Southgate wasn't really "bad" if you think about it, world cup was a little bit disappointing on how they left, that's true but the level they got out was fine. On top of that they had two finals, which is good as well. [...]
He wasn't bad for The Three Lion, but not enough for them either. He is not a manager who has amazing experience, look at his managerial history, we can refer to Wikipedia. He has only ever managed Middlesbrough at club level [1]. The news of his departure from The Three Lions will certainly make many people happy, it opens up the opportunity for another great journey for The Three Lions themselves. Rumors say the English FA wants to get Guardiola as a replacement for Gareth Southgate, isn't this a great thing? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Southgate
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He wasn't bad for The Three Lion, but not enough for them either. He is not a manager who has amazing experience, look at his managerial history, we can refer to Wikipedia. He has only ever managed Middlesbrough at club level [1]. The news of his departure from The Three Lions will certainly make many people happy, it opens up the opportunity for another great journey for The Three Lions themselves. Rumors say the English FA wants to get Guardiola as a replacement for Gareth Southgate, isn't this a great thing? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_SouthgateIt is doubtful that Guardiola will undertake to coach the England national team. Firstly, there he will not be able to endlessly change players, spending billions until he gets the desired squad and secondly, although Southgate did not win anything, he raised the bar quite high. Therefore, for Guardiola, the likelihood of failure will be very high. He will never take such a risk, no matter how much he sings about “new challenges.”
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It is doubtful that Guardiola will undertake to coach the England national team. Firstly, there he will not be able to endlessly change players, spending billions until he gets the desired squad and secondly, although Southgate did not win anything, he raised the bar quite high. Therefore, for Guardiola, the likelihood of failure will be very high. He will never take such a risk, no matter how much he sings about “new challenges.”
I don't also expect Guardiola to take over either. Why would he leave Manchester City at the moment? I believe he might leave in a couple of years but not right now without saying anything before. Southgate's football is the thing that is very bad and boring to watch. But the player quality was so high that England still made it to the finale. Southgate set the bar quite high indeed for the next coach. By the way there has been some changes in FIFA Men's Ranking after Euro 2024 ended. Spain have gained 5 places thanks to the Euro trophy they got and captured 3rd place. Argentina are still 1st while France are right behind. https://inside.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men
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He wasn't bad for The Three Lion, but not enough for them either. He is not a manager who has amazing experience, look at his managerial history, we can refer to Wikipedia. He has only ever managed Middlesbrough at club level [1]. The news of his departure from The Three Lions will certainly make many people happy, it opens up the opportunity for another great journey for The Three Lions themselves. Rumors say the English FA wants to get Guardiola as a replacement for Gareth Southgate, isn't this a great thing? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_SouthgateIt is doubtful that Guardiola will undertake to coach the England national team. Firstly, there he will not be able to endlessly change players, spending billions until he gets the desired squad and secondly, although Southgate did not win anything, he raised the bar quite high. Therefore, for Guardiola, the likelihood of failure will be very high. He will never take such a risk, no matter how much he sings about “new challenges.” England is a country that controls the coach on what they want and that will not help Guardiola to achieve success because he will not be able to make his decisions right. That is one big problem England as a nation has and I don't think that the new coach they will sign will have the freedom to do whatever he likes. If you are not from England, it will be impossible for you to coach their national team which Guardiola is not from England. Guardiola knows what he wants so he will not dare accept such offer because that might bring down his reputation in the coaching field.
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