[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023)

[btc_angela]

It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

Tank was easily to beat his kid

Although Romero was going to be aggressive and dominating when he fought Tank, but he was make a mistake for chasing Tank too far and it make Tank outperformed him.

Garcia vs Romero might be interesting, the fight should be goes toe to toe and the loser might be lose via KO since both of them have a weak chin.

Lopez is also on 140 lbs division, we might see Lopez vs Garcia fight in the future.

This is indeed interesting to watch soon if it will happen because even if Gervonta Davis didn't sweat that much on their fight versus Romero, I can still say that the latter is still a decent one or even much impressive compared to Garcia. I know that Garcia can be more destructive at 140 but that is if he can hit that solid punch towards the agile Romero who's quite good at evading punches which is why he is Mayweather's second favorite next to Davis.

Anyway, let's wait and see if this rumored fight will happen soon because I don't think that Garcia will bite this one as he just got from a loss which mean that he needed someone first to bounce back to build confidence and hype before he will face the new WBA champion, Rolly Romero.

I haven't heard if Ryan Garcia has answered Rolly Romero's challenged, he might have heard it, but as we have heard, he is looking for a new trainer so maybe he is not looking for a quick fight after that Davis lost.

And I guess for Oscar his manager, don't rush him, might be better if he will get a tuneup first at 140 lbs and see how it goes. At least bring Ryan's confidence again and bounce back from that defeat. He had should mental breakdown before, so it's better for him to take another lightly opponent to boost belief in himself that he can do it again.

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[inthelongrun]

It's disgusting Tony Weeks intervened, stopping the fight when 4k years old Barroso was not even hit clean and was leading the fight prior to the stoppage. Weeks did not even think about the effort of Barroso who's just awakened from his pyramid in Egypt just to fight PBC's baby pug, Rolando Romero. Anyways, Romero better mentions only popular but weaker fighters because he is nowhere near the levels of Taylor, Prograis, Matias, etc. 2 of the champions in the division are now at PBC but I really doubt Al will allow Romero to unify his WBA belt against IBF champion Subriel Matias.

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

[Ziskinberg]

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

[carlisle1]

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

[Kasabus]

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

[Maslate]

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

Most probably, we all have the same assumptions after that fight because it's just hard to think that his camp and Ryan himself will not be motivated after what happened as that particular fight almost gave him his first defeat and it was Campbell who first made Ryan Garcia an open book for his next foe's advantage. And unfortunately, we had the wrong assumption and even Golden Boy himself was not happy with it either because after he gave Ryan a two-easy fight, he still did not improve.

[Mahanton]

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.
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Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

Most probably, we all have the same assumptions after that fight because it's just hard to think that his camp and Ryan himself will not be motivated after what happened as that particular fight almost gave him his first defeat and it was Campbell who first made Ryan Garcia an open book for his next foe's advantage. And unfortunately, we had the wrong assumption and even Golden Boy himself was not happy with it either because after he gave Ryan a two-easy fight, he still did not improve.

If he wont really be changing up the behavior then we wont really be shocked that if this man would really be losing up his career due to lots of losses and other criticisms. Its good to see about these sentiments
for him not to follow up orders in speaking about trading routines which it is really that a must thing for a boxer to follow on and something that do talks about discipline. Boxing isnt really just like
chilling and having some small time trading plus those interviews. If you would be having this kind of mindset and on the time that you would realize that there's no one would like to interview you. LOL!
He would be needing to make up those adjustments and should really be that somewhat serious if he do wants to improve more and would really be changing up his course.
He shouldnt really be that too confident on what he currently have because there are lots of strong and better boxers way above or ahead of him. Continuous lose would definitely
make out a huge impact on his career.

[Yaunfitda]

But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

[Pamadar]

But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

Regardless of whoever will handle his training, if the kid is not trainable, then there's nothing that will happen.

Changing your trainer will not have any big impact on your growth unless you are willing to adjust and exceed from your set limits,
more on his self-will to adopt all the trainings.

It's really hard for someone who thinks they already have enough to follow an instruction, thinking that what they've got is complete
enough to win a fight. It's your allotment with more knowledge and skills to adopt from your team that matters.

[mirakal]

But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

Regardless of whoever will handle his training, if the kid is not trainable, then there's nothing that will happen.

Changing your trainer will not have any big impact on your growth unless you are willing to adjust and exceed from your set limits,
more on his self-will to adopt all the trainings.

It's really hard for someone who thinks they already have enough to follow an instruction, thinking that what they've got is complete
enough to win a fight. It's your allotment with more knowledge and skills to adopt from your team that matters.

I certainly agree. Even the greatest coach and trainer of all time will have the struggle to train a boxer who doesn't want to be trained because in Ryan Garcia's case, his ego is too big that he thinks that his heavy fast punch can settle everything. At first, I was rooting for this kid's success because he does have the talent needed that most boxers doesn't even have but when I learned that he's too self-centered and unwilling to train for his own improvement, I lost my faith towards him because how can I expect something from him if he himself is not helping himself to improve and be a champion someday. That's one big problem that Garcia didn't see at all.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Let's just give him some time for now because after all, he is still young and definitely have some room to improve if he is that actually serious to be one of the greats one day. He already got the talent to bring any boxer down as long as he can touch it with somebody else's temple but that talent is not well taken care of and that's what he should do. For now, this loss he just experienced will wake him up and reflect on his actions, so that next time, he knows what to do.

Perhaps if he will just know how to protect or have good defense though, he could be an elite boxer. But he doesn't have that and the movement, still very amateurish that's why when he faces a great boxer like Gervonta Davis, he was really exposed and then others says that Ryan just quit and doesn't want to go and fight. He could have like the mentality of Amir Khan, than when he knows that he is going to lose the fight, he just take a dive and quit. So if he can fight a coach that can improved his lateral movements and cover his face and body more, then maybe he can recover from his lost.

We are not you but I think that Garcia also has many things on his mind, he wants to do a lot and achieve little, maybe he is Demanding too much and that is why things are not working out for him? the pressure and mental health of a boxer or any athlete is something that we do not give much importance to, all this type of speculation he can see, it is not that he goes here and reads, but I think that social networks are much more than to destroy than to build and that can affect him,as far as I'm concerned I think that García is missing something,perhaps the toughest training and that he gets harder in the ring,that he has an Established strategy and that he does not give up.

and:

De La Hoya Says Ryan Garcia Should Have Taken Tune-up Fight Ahead of Gervonta Davis Showdown

Oscar De La Hoya believes Ryan Garcia’s woes in the ring against Gervonta Davis were in part the product of a decision made many months earlier.

The head of Golden Boy Promotions stated in a recent interview that it was a mistake for his charge to forgo plans to take up a tune-up level bout ahead of his fight with Baltimore’s Davis last month.

The southpaw Davis wound up stopping Garcia with a body shot in the seventh round of their highly publicized 136-pound match at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

Prior to their fight, Davis had entered the ring more than three months earlier, in January, against Hector Luis Garcia, stopping the Dominican in nine rounds at Capitol One Arena in Washington D.C.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-says-ryan-garcia-taken-tune-up-fight-ahead-gervonta-davis-showdown--174606

[inthelongrun]

It's done already. Too late to turn back time. Garcia should have taken a tune up and maybe did not agree for rehydration clause or the get a better deal on the catchweight. Garcia and De La Hoya can focus on the present if they are to work together.

Garcia now has James as his new coach. We'll see how this goes. Maybe James can push him to train harder. But in reality Spence and Charlo have their own problems too so it's either Garcia becomes better or turn into worse.

[AmoreJaz]

It's done already. Too late to turn back time. Garcia should have taken a tune up and maybe did not agree for rehydration clause or the get a better deal on the catchweight. Garcia and De La Hoya can focus on the present if they are to work together.

Garcia now has James as his new coach. We'll see how this goes. Maybe James can push him to train harder. But in reality Spence and Charlo have their own problems too so it's either Garcia becomes better or turn into worse.

it was their decision not to take the tune-up fight of garcia vs. mercito gesta supposedly last january. so they should not regret of not having such fight. they are already here so better do their best inside the ring. up until now, the majority is betting on tank davis to win this match.
will the new coach impose better skills for garcia to win? let's see...

[Japinat]

It's done already. Too late to turn back time. Garcia should have taken a tune up and maybe did not agree for rehydration clause or the get a better deal on the catchweight. Garcia and De La Hoya can focus on the present if they are to work together.

Yes, what's done is done. They already knew about the possible repercussions and yet they still forgo their first plan to have a tune-up fight ahead a much heavier fight, we don't know what will be the outcome if Garcia did faced his own tune-up because there are some factors as well that his preparations might be a little short as he might need more rest to recover from that tune-up fight as it was touted to be like Gervonta Davis's style. Either way, I still do think that the outcome will be the same, no matter what preparation Garcia did.

Garcia now has James as his new coach. We'll see how this goes. Maybe James can push him to train harder. But in reality Spence and Charlo have their own problems too so it's either Garcia becomes better or turn into worse.

Hopefully, it's something positive this time because the last time Ryan Garcia had this situation, he did not appreciated it at all that is why he left because Eddy Reynoso prioritized Canelo Alvarez first and now, he again have the same situation. What can I say except good luck.

[Pamadar]

It's done already. Too late to turn back time. Garcia should have taken a tune up and maybe did not agree for rehydration clause or the get a better deal on the catchweight. Garcia and De La Hoya can focus on the present if they are to work together.

Garcia now has James as his new coach. We'll see how this goes. Maybe James can push him to train harder. But in reality Spence and Charlo have their own problems too so it's either Garcia becomes better or turn into worse.

Yes, depends on how Garcia will cooperate as even he changes camp,

If he's not willing to adjust, then there's nothing that will be change on him. It's his personal achievements to exceed from his limitations
and try to do everything to regain his name and be back at the hype of his career.

It's just one loss, and he is still young and has all the capabilities to adjust, if he will cooperate and he will unleash all those potentials
that can be improved and enhance then maybe we will see him winning more fights and a possibility of winning a belt.

[dunfida]

It's done already. Too late to turn back time. Garcia should have taken a tune up and maybe did not agree for rehydration clause or the get a better deal on the catchweight. Garcia and De La Hoya can focus on the present if they are to work together.

Garcia now has James as his new coach. We'll see how this goes. Maybe James can push him to train harder. But in reality Spence and Charlo have their own problems too so it's either Garcia becomes better or turn into worse.

Yes, depends on how Garcia will cooperate as even he changes camp,

If he's not willing to adjust, then there's nothing that will be change on him. It's his personal achievements to exceed from his limitations
and try to do everything to regain his name and be back at the hype of his career.

It's just one loss, and he is still young and has all the capabilities to adjust, if he will cooperate and he will unleash all those potentials
that can be improved and enhance then maybe we will see him winning more fights and a possibility of winning a belt.

The thing i could see on Garcia is about being that predictable and doesnt have that footwork. This is why its not shocking that Davis did really hit up a solid bodyblow yet he's really that easy to read up.

If he would really be that hard headed then he wont really be able to reclaim that hype that he had started or able to achieve.Yes, he's still young and theres still lots of rooms for improvement.
On this current talks that Garcia loves to chill and isnt really that disciplined towards his training routing then we would be able to say that he wont really be making more
progress. He do really need to adjust and would follow strictly on what trainers say and of course the discipline because this is actually for his own good of his career.

[LUCKMCFLY]

What do you think though? for me it's better for Ryan to just go back to Eddy then? I mean he has good relationship with Reynoso before and probably it's Ryan best interest that Canelo has said things in public against him. Perhaps Canelo's intention is for Ryan to really improved himself, but Ryan take it negatively.

For me I don't think that James will be a perfect fit for him as a coach, no offense to him, but the his style of coaching might not work with Ryan. So it's better to go back to where he all started his career, with Eddy's camp and for sure he can still improved and continue what they have started before instead of renewing another training pattern that he might have difficult to learn, in my opinion.

What happens is that he will say that if he goes back with Eddy he can see it as a failure, something that shouldn't be there, it's something like going back, and what Canelo says I'm sure Ryan won't like, because in part Canelo has enough fame and he will see it as something that does not fluctuate between them, and if he fights with those things, I think it is worse, so in this case the healthiest thing I see is that García does what he should do and that Canelo is in his quiet position, the quieter the better, because I see that it is like stirring up the hornet's nest.

[Maslate]

What do you think though? for me it's better for Ryan to just go back to Eddy then? I mean he has good relationship with Reynoso before and probably it's Ryan best interest that Canelo has said things in public against him. Perhaps Canelo's intention is for Ryan to really improved himself, but Ryan take it negatively.

For me I don't think that James will be a perfect fit for him as a coach, no offense to him, but the his style of coaching might not work with Ryan. So it's better to go back to where he all started his career, with Eddy's camp and for sure he can still improved and continue what they have started before instead of renewing another training pattern that he might have difficult to learn, in my opinion.

What happens is that he will say that if he goes back with Eddy he can see it as a failure, something that shouldn't be there, it's something like going back, and what Canelo says I'm sure Ryan won't like, because in part Canelo has enough fame and he will see it as something that does not fluctuate between them, and if he fights with those things, I think it is worse, so in this case the healthiest thing I see is that García does what he should do and that Canelo is in his quiet position, the quieter the better, because I see that it is like stirring up the hornet's nest.

Well, if this go wrong again this time, Ryan Garcia's last resort would be going back towards Eddy Reynoso and forget what happened before if he really like to continue his career because that is where he made his name and helped him to take advantage of the talent he got.
Also, there is a huge chance too that Garcia will not like James style because the time may not be that perfect for Garcia especially if Charlo and Spence will both be busy so and that means that Garcia will be left again as James will prioritize Charlo and Spence first.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

What do you think though? for me it's better for Ryan to just go back to Eddy then? I mean he has good relationship with Reynoso before and probably it's Ryan best interest that Canelo has said things in public against him. Perhaps Canelo's intention is for Ryan to really improved himself, but Ryan take it negatively.

For me I don't think that James will be a perfect fit for him as a coach, no offense to him, but the his style of coaching might not work with Ryan. So it's better to go back to where he all started his career, with Eddy's camp and for sure he can still improved and continue what they have started before instead of renewing another training pattern that he might have difficult to learn, in my opinion.

What happens is that he will say that if he goes back with Eddy he can see it as a failure, something that shouldn't be there, it's something like going back, and what Canelo says I'm sure Ryan won't like, because in part Canelo has enough fame and he will see it as something that does not fluctuate between them, and if he fights with those things, I think it is worse, so in this case the healthiest thing I see is that García does what he should do and that Canelo is in his quiet position, the quieter the better, because I see that it is like stirring up the hornet's nest.

Well, if this go wrong again this time, Ryan Garcia's last resort would be going back towards Eddy Reynoso and forget what happened before if he really like to continue his career because that is where he made his name and helped him to take advantage of the talent he got.
Also, there is a huge chance too that Garcia will not like James style because the time may not be that perfect for Garcia especially if Charlo and Spence will both be busy so and that means that Garcia will be left again as James will prioritize Charlo and Spence first.

Ryan Garcia has a new trainer already,



https://www.britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/ryan-garcia-begins-training-with-derrick-james

And as what has been mentioned, it's Derrick James the trainer of Errol Spence Jr. And obviously we can see in the picture that maybe they are still already working. We have heard about the Spence Jr. Vs Bud Crawford fight so most likely this could be true as again pictures circulating already that Ryan is on the camp on board and might be introduce by James himself to the fighters he is trainer. But then again, it's the whole attitude of Ryan than can make the big difference.

[carlisle1]

Ryan Garcia has a new trainer already,



https://www.britishboxingnews.co.uk/blogs/ryan-garcia-begins-training-with-derrick-james

And as what has been mentioned, it's Derrick James the trainer of Errol Spence Jr. And obviously we can see in the picture that maybe they are still already working. We have heard about the Spence Jr. Vs Bud Crawford fight so most likely this could be true as again pictures circulating already that Ryan is on the camp on board and might be introduce by James himself to the fighters he is trainer. But then again, it's the whole attitude of Ryan than can make the big difference.

I agree with that, it's still his attitude that will allow him to enhance his fighting skills, with a new trainer and a new set of people to
work on keeping moving forward after that loss.

Nothing to judge for now as we are waiting for the next update if he will have another money fight or if he will again find a cherry pick fighter to hype his name.

Something that we will need to wait, whether that change in training partners will benefit him or not.