Holding could be better

[mvdheuvel1983]

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

[carlfebz2]

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

You cant honed or make yourself that emotionally stabled when you do deal up with demo, yes you could make yourself enhanced with those technical aspects on which its good but when it comes to emotional

aspect or part then it would really be that hard and this is why it would be better to deal off with live on putting some small amounts of capital and trying out not to bust yourself as early as you could.

This is why some of people doesnt be able to bare up the risk and the pressure when dealing with volatility market which it would be that resulting for them to hold
instead with active dealing which it isnt really that a bad idea to be done by someone.

[shinratensei_]

when you are investing and holding your investments long term you always have the higher chance of creating good decision and scoring good profits out of it, trading in itself honestly only suited when the market is bullish so it have higher chance of increasing than decreasing, nowadays it seems trading isn't really good way in creating profits moreover the trend of alts in general are still massively bearish. as you said if big share of the money goes into holding i'm sure it gonna works, just hold until bullish comes.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

I think even using demo accounts it's gonna be little bit different in term of emotional control but I do agree any newbies out there should be trying through the demo features, it gives somewhat real impression of what trading and investing gonna feel like.

[xSkylarx]

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

5% is too low unless you have a lot of capital that you want to invest in trading or holding. Also, the demo account was heavily debated, as most people said that if you use a demo account, you can't really feel the heat and adrenaline rush of trading, which is why others will say to deposit a small amount first to try to trade, and if you get comfortable, that's when you'll deposit a large amount. Though it is really best if you don't put all of your eggs in one basket, that is why it is better to cut it in half, like 60% for holding and 40% for trading.

[Sebas.tian]

I prefer holding in this bearish season than to trade in the market, because there are many opportunity for those that will exercise patience with the current price not to sell than to hold and watch for the price to increase higher before they can sell to make a passive incomes. Since the bearish season took over long period in the market, showed that bullish will soon takeover crypto market for investors to experience long bullish in the community. I think, those that experienced losses last year 2022 will learn from their mistakes not to hurry to sell their coins than to be patience for the bull market to appear before he or she can supply to market to achieve huge amount of income.

[Cryptmuster]

Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.

[xSkylarx]

Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.

It was called money management and playing it safe so that you would not lose all of your money in case you lost a trade. Though it is really good to withdraw your money weekly or biweekly, you still need to focus more on your strategy first since how could you withdraw if you couldn't win a trade? Also, the set of rules, or, let's say, confirmation (call it confirmation), is really the trigger to hit the trade. Most traders know this, since when they see three or more confirmations for a trade, they will trigger it.

[monineklutak]

Good point to invest with money we are prepared to lose. But to be honest, I can hardly say anything about the percentage of the amount to be traded at a loss as you say. Maybe I'd rather say there's no percentage for that, why? because basically we don't want to experience losses even if only 1% of the amount of money we have.
We are in a situation where we have to take advantage of the opportunities that are in front of us because the current price is worth investing in. So do your best, and we'll meet our very desired price in the future.

To be able to earn something in trading, you need to have good discipline and clearly follow the rules (each may have its own list of rules). And it is very important to withdraw earnings (if any) every week, or every few weeks. If you do not do this, but only try to increase the deposit, then in the end it greatly increases the risk of losing everything that was earned and, accordingly, the deposit too. Hold is easier, we buy and hold on the wallet, until the price reaches the values we need.

Discipline by following the rules is important and sometimes people forget about it,
as much as possible we have to minimize the risk and that's why trading is not an easy thing,
holding it also requires patience and usually people just want to make a quick profit

[Tony116]

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Newbie traders shouldn't even start trading with real crypto. They should first master the demo and then when they feel confident enough should consider using 5% of their funds to test the water.
Therefore, 95% of their funds should go into holding.
One mistake they do is revenge trading and when they give in to this, they go beyond 5% funds and end up using up to 15% -20% resulting in terrible losses.

For a new trader, 20% is too much capital to start with, 5% is really a reasonable number but don't start with a demo account but start with a real account with 5% of that capital. A demo account will never give you real experience, when you start with a demo account, it can give you a good experience, but in the end, they are virtual money. And then, when you use it with a real account, your mentality will be completely different, and your experience will also be different, I will still call you new. Loss is inevitable when first trading, but what matters is what we get after those losses, that's what matters.

[oaz7t]

Yeah as the time is passing it's the only viable option for us. In fact it's the history repeating since 2009 year, if we look closely then patterns are repeating, prices are being cyclic and they are making similar moves all the time. If we apply proper logic then one can only think about hodling bitcoin and see our assets growing all the time. If we go for buy and sell on regular basis then we will achieve nothing but regular exchanges, may be use case of crypto over fiat and desired circulation. However, hodling can also benefit to create serious demand and short supplies. This in long term would be factor to hike the prices.

[ultrloa]

There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

[Franctoshi]

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profitable and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal because is part of trading and learning process mostly for newbies in trading. So success comes from failures and those experienced/profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (higher percentage of your funds investment funds should be in BTC). Always Take profits when there's opportunity.
 If you have the passion for trading and you're making profits good, but if not continue to try with small amount of money and try to learn why you lose,  maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.

[taufik123]

There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.

[Fatunad]

There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.

The current price is indeed not a bad spot for you to buyback or make out some accumulation because in making up some comparison into those previous bear markets then it is really that significant
percentage drop which we could assume out that we might be already at the bottom or near on it which means that it isnt a bad spot for us to make such move.Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.

[carlisle1]

There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Buying right now is pretty good as Bitcoin's decline from the last ATH has been around -70% and this is certainly a pretty deep drop. If you're still not sure, then wait for the next decline (if the market doesn't show signs of being bullish).

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

When the bullish time occurs and the candle has shown the needle up, never buy because of FOMO, it will only make your losses increase and hold it long enough to recover from the previous price. but currently, there are no bullish signs yet. the market tends to stagnate and will probably experience a recovery in 2023. let's wait for what will happen next.

The current price is indeed not a bad spot for you to buyback or make out some accumulation because in making up some comparison into those previous bear markets then it is really that significant
percentage drop which we could assume out that we might be already at the bottom or near on it which means that it isnt a bad spot for us to make such move.Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.

There are different perceptions and different assessment in each investor and traders' mindsets, you need to work on your own analysis
and make your decision according to how you anticipate the upcoming market.

No one can predict the market as accurate as it can be, more on speculation and basing in how they experienced the last market movement.

Either bull or bear, they are basing their investment with how they understand the market.

[Smartvirus]

There are perfect timing to hodl and that time is when bitcoin is doing some bad movement since bear market hit so bad, maybe by this time its better time to decide on when to take you positions then use this one for long term holding.

Bad timing to hold is doing it when bullish season is at the peak because you want more or think that there will be more pump to come since this one will make you a bag holder or even a huge loser since for sure correction times will happen anytime at that situation.

I might agree with you when you say the best time for you to hodl is whn the market is undergoing undergoing some bad moves which means bearish as, the market is in the low, its not a best time to sell and you don't lose by not selling. Instead, you buy more to 8ncrease your crypto portfolio.
What I don't so much agree with is you selling selling when it's bearish. That's as well not the best decision to make given that, the market would continue to grow a later times. There are more and more bearish/bullish moves to come which means, you can stil profit from your hodlings towads future moves.

At best, you hodl what you can, keep buying yo increase your portfolio and sell only when you must and that doenst mean you have to empty your portfolio.

[Silberman]

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profiting and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal and is part of learning process for newbies in trading, because success comes from failures and those experienced /profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (huge portion). Always Take profits when there's opportunity and also trade if you have the passion for trading if you're making profits or continue to try with small money and learn why you lose maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.

One thing that is often ignored by those that trade the markets is that even some of the best traders around the world still take a break from trading if they think the conditions they are facing are too adverse for them to make any kind of profits, and when we think about the market conditions we have been facing for more than a year it is not difficult to imagine those traders would probably avoid trading cryptocurrencies right now as it is simply too challenging to obtain any profits.

[xSkylarx]

If you know that you are trading and losing your money, it is better to think about this twice or three time or more before making the wrong decision that you will later blame yourself for. We are in accumulation period, try and hold and accumulate.

My advice to traders that are losing is to still continue to trade, but using just 20% while 80% should go into holding. What do you people think about this? Out of 100% fund, what percentage can you advice a trader to use?

Trading is not bad if you're profiting and incurring loses (Minimal loses) in trading is normal and is part of learning process for newbies in trading, because success comes from failures and those experienced /profissonal (profitable traders) also lose trades but have learnt from thier trading mistakes to become what they are today.

Secondly, You should have a long term investment goal for Bitcoin (huge portion). Always Take profits when there's opportunity and also trade if you have the passion for trading if you're making profits or continue to try with small money and learn why you lose maybe one day you could become a profitable trader as well.

One thing that is often ignored by those that trade the markets is that even some of the best traders around the world still take a break from trading if they think the conditions they are facing are too adverse for them to make any kind of profits, and when we think about the market conditions we have been facing for more than a year it is not difficult to imagine those traders would probably avoid trading cryptocurrencies right now as it is simply too challenging to obtain any profits.

There is really that kind of mindset in which it is very greedy to enter the market without knowing its status, like if it was going sideways or if the market was in a downtrend, in which case you can still trade but the chance of losing is higher. I can't blame others as this was my thinking before; it was because of the greed of getting money, and it taught me a lot of lessons. So, if the current trend is down, I avoid focusing my attention on finding the best trade because it is time consuming; instead, I check the chart to see if there are any good trades to trigger; if not, I'll be relaxing on my couch.

[Bhig Daddy]

All traders, including seasoned pros, make these errors, for which they ultimately pay a price. The primary prototype that a trader should control is greed. Beginners and traders succumb to greed and overtrade, which leads to blunders. I am aware that keeping is occasionally preferable, which is why they always recommend trading within your means. If you go over budget and trade with your savings, you may be obliged to sell the coins at key moments when keeping them could have been a better choice. Act and make investments as such.

[taufik123]

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Although, there are
really just people who do decide to wait up further just because they are really that believing that there is still more drops to come, its not something that we could know ahead
but its up to someone whether they would take up the risk or not.

Deciding to wait longer at a price that might be cheaper, that's each individual's decision. The main reference is how you do a market analysis and predict where the market will go next. When deciding to buy for the long term, wherever the specified purchase price will remain good as long as the target is achieved far from the current price.

The price of bitcoin which is still stable at $ 16,800 is a good price for now, we just need to be prepared for a bull market, or when the market is forced down again we also have reserve money to do DCA. The higher the risk, the higher the profit will also be.

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No one can predict the market as accurate as it can be, more on speculation and basing in how they experienced the last market movement.

Either bull or bear, they are basing their investment with how they understand the market.

Prediction is just a description that explains what future market conditions will be like, it depends on how to read the candles that are formed in a certain period of time. Predictions won't be 100% accurate, but they can be used as a reference to determine where the market will go next.

There was a lot of speculation going on and it was intentional to disrupt the market fundamentally. Bringing together the knowledge of technical analysis and Fundamentals will give a clear picture of where the crypto market is going.