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September 09, 2023, 08:09:42 PM
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I do not know if that is the case here as well, I do not know if he is injured or not, maybe he just lacks match shape and condition, but at the end of the day do not expect many games from him as fans, because he is going to miss many games and will not be playing in a lot of games.

Why do you believe Neymar will miss so many games? do you think the competition in this league is tougher than Ligue1? this is a discussion thread but your opinion cannot be confirmed. We've talked about Neymar before and he's past his injury as we know he is already actively playing with Brazil, if you want to know Neymar's current condition you can watch it here BRASIL vs. BOLIVIA Neymar scored 2 goals in this match and we have no doubts about his condition when he plays with Al-Hilal next week. What is certain is that Al-Hilal carried out a medical test before signing him obviously they won't spend much money if he just sits on the bench.

For the fact that we know that Neymar is an injury player does not mean that he does not have enough time to play. When Neymar was in Barcelona, he played a lot of matches, even when he was in PSG. He played a lot of matches and he even plays good matches of Brazil's national team unless for few occasions that he will be injured before the tournament finishes and most time he will return to play the final stages of the tournament. He cannot be a liability to his new club. He will have time to play, also the competition in the Arabia Pro League is not much and besides from the sales of jersy of Naymer, the club can still make a lot of money.

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September 09, 2023, 08:11:43 PM
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Neymar not playing that many games is definitely normal because that is who he is.
Cheesy He is really who he is. His new Saudi club know his profile well before they brought him in to the club, they know his benefits even off the pitch for their league. Him moving there will have a good effect on even Brazilians to want choose to want to play in the league.

Anytime he can play, he will put in his best.

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September 09, 2023, 08:12:12 PM
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No team without proper European talents are winning anything this season. Any team that is ending the season at the top will have a lot of great European players they bought this season, I am not talking about European players they got before neither, or lets say non-Saudi players, the team that wins the league this year will be a team that spend hundreds of millions of dollars this summer.
I agree with you, they didn’t just sign European players, they signed talented players who will be able to improve their teams performance, and I already see differences in the clubs performance. I notice that the clubs that spent more money on signing European players are performing better than the ones that didn’t spend much money. But I am sure the clubs that didn’t spend much will also put up a good fight also, but the clubs that signed quality players will be able to perform better since they have experience already. But with time, Saudi clubs will start building their own home base players.

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September 09, 2023, 09:49:40 PM
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Several Saudi clubs have contributed to strengthening the league and making it more Competitive by signing these top players around the world and their current champion Al-ittihad are not left out, they're trying to retain the league title and buy doing so they'll really need to strengthen their squad just like others have dine.
 So far in the transfer window this summer they tried to lure Several players into their team of which some deals didn't fall in place, buy they signed players like Benzema, N'golo Kante,Fabrizio, Fabinho and Jota to add to the local side players in their team but according to the news they've currently welcome Felipe Luiz into their team, he'll make a very fine player for them and strengthen their backline with his defensive skills, but i feel they'll find it a little difficult winning the league title tgis season because Al-Hilal seem like favorites to do so and are currently toping the league.
Ittihad will try to be better, by recruiting more Europa players to retain the league title. Luiz Felipe may could be a good player to strengthen Ittihad defense, although this Italy player is not too old, but he has enough experience. If play in this league, I think it is not really difficult for him. Considering also he is not too old, then there is a possibility he can develop to be better. Also maybe can return to any club at Europa again, I mean there is still a chance for him. If he can have a good performance, then there is a possibility that clubs in Europa are interested to recruit him. Anyhow, this league is not over yet, I mean although Al Hilal is the favorite but there is still a chance for Ittihad to return to the top position.

I think Al Ittihad can be very scary after they get a player like Luiz Felipe. Because we know Al Ittihad got many famous superstar players from Europe in this summer to have better forwards.
Now after they hired Luiz Felipe, their only weakness in the defense line will be improved and now they can be a stronger team to race with Al Hilal for the title at the end of this season.
  

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September 09, 2023, 10:14:51 PM
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I don't agree if you say they ignore local players in fact local players can compete with other European players we can see it in the current top scorer list at least 2 local players are on the list Feras Albrikan and Salem Al-Dawsari besides that we can also see Al-Taawoun which is dominated by local players out of 29 players 21 of them are local players and they are currently in 2nd place in the standings. I think this is enough to prove that local players can compete and be relied on and their abilities increase if they continue to play with European players.
People usually underrate the abilities of the local players alot probably because the league is investing so much money to sign foreign players but I don’t see them that way, compared to other top league the saudi league is not up the standards yet but that doesn’t mean there are no good players in the league. They are investing in foreign players because they want to raise the standards of the league and gradually they are raising it’s standards. I do watch some matches in the league and i was seen some decent local players, i was surprised at first but then i realized maybe it’s because the league was not given attention that’s why we don’t notice them. What surprised me most was a player i saw dribbling showing off skills like we see in European football that was the day I realized they got talent too.

But sometimes its true, drafting an import player would be beneficial to a team because they have an experieence outside the country. In some cases, local players may face challenges in standing out or competing at the same level as their international counterparts. This isnot necessarily a reflection of their abilities but rather a result of the intense competition and expectations in professional football. While it's essential to acknowledge the potential of local players, it's also crucial to recognize the overall strategy of the league and the benefits that can come from investing in foreigner players. The goal is often to enhance the league's quality and competitiveness, which can ultimately benefit both local and international talents.

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September 09, 2023, 10:23:01 PM
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I think Al Ittihad can be very scary after they get a player like Luiz Felipe. Because we know Al Ittihad got many famous superstar players from Europe in this summer to have better forwards.
Now after they hired Luiz Felipe, their only weakness in the defense line will be improved and now they can be a stronger team to race with Al Hilal for the title at the end of this season.
  
I'm not quick to conclude that because I've not seen his performance for the team yet, because not all players are able adapt to a new environment and poor adaption also make them decline in form, anyways the Brazil born player is a very good center defender and could strengthen the defence line of his new team judging from his past performances in lazio and Betis he's had a good experience and would carry it with him into the Al-ittihad making them more stronger this season.
 They're the defending champions of the league and I belive that's why they've sort the presence of a quality experienced player to help strengthen their backline and I believe he'll make a fine player for them and defense the trophy from their very strong competitors and with their current form I still see them a strong contenders despite Al-Hilal being the most likely to win it this season.
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September 09, 2023, 10:33:07 PM
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I do not know if that is the case here as well, I do not know if he is injured or not, maybe he just lacks match shape and condition, but at the end of the day do not expect many games from him as fans, because he is going to miss many games and will not be playing in a lot of games.

Why do you believe Neymar will miss so many games? do you think the competition in this league is tougher than Ligue1? this is a discussion thread but your opinion cannot be confirmed. We've talked about Neymar before and he's past his injury as we know he is already actively playing with Brazil, if you want to know Neymar's current condition you can watch it here BRASIL vs. BOLIVIA Neymar scored 2 goals in this match and we have no doubts about his condition when he plays with Al-Hilal next week. What is certain is that Al-Hilal carried out a medical test before signing him obviously they won't spend much money if he just sits on the bench.

The mate may have made that statement without proper considerations or taking into account the current performance of the player in the Brazilians team and his outstanding performance in the last match as you mention,  Neymar was able to secure two goals in the game even though he just recovered from that major injury.

The season has just begun,  and there is no need to be overly concerned about a player who is already doing excellently well in the few games played so far.



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September 09, 2023, 10:58:34 PM
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Checking the Saudi League table I can see Al Hazem is on the bottom of the table because they spent too much money in this season and Al Hazem hired many players.
Recently they hired Ryan Al-Mousa and Mohammed Abousaban for their teams.
Al Hazem hired 19 players in this transfer window and they changed their team a lot but still, they got only 2 points so far.
  
     

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September 09, 2023, 11:10:47 PM
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I think Al Ittihad can be very scary after they get a player like Luiz Felipe. Because we know Al Ittihad got many famous superstar players from Europe in this summer to have better forwards.
Now after they hired Luiz Felipe, their only weakness in the defense line will be improved and now they can be a stronger team to race with Al Hilal for the title at the end of this season.
With the arrival of Europa players in defensive positions, the Ittihad project looks better and may to be perfect. Although it's too early to say that, but Luiz Felipe Ramos Marchi isn't too bad either, his experience when playing at Europa could probably be of great use for him to playing with Ittihad team. Yes now their only weakness in defense could be improved, Benzema will also likely be happy if their defense becomes stronger than before.

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September 09, 2023, 11:19:51 PM
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I do not know if that is the case here as well, I do not know if he is injured or not, maybe he just lacks match shape and condition, but at the end of the day do not expect many games from him as fans, because he is going to miss many games and will not be playing in a lot of games.

Why do you believe Neymar will miss so many games? do you think the competition in this league is tougher than Ligue1? this is a discussion thread but your opinion cannot be confirmed. We've talked about Neymar before and he's past his injury as we know he is already actively playing with Brazil, if you want to know Neymar's current condition you can watch it here BRASIL vs. BOLIVIA Neymar scored 2 goals in this match and we have no doubts about his condition when he plays with Al-Hilal next week. What is certain is that Al-Hilal carried out a medical test before signing him obviously they won't spend much money if he just sits on the bench.

Neymar's current condition is quite fit. And the proof is in the Brazil vs Bolivia match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Even Neymar played the full 90 minutes of the match. And he also scored 2 goals in the 61st and 90+3 minutes. So you are right that Neymar is definitely ready to play at Al-Hilal too. Al-Hilal will face Al-Shabab in the next match.

And actually, during this international break, Neymar will also play again with his national team, namely Brazil, to face Peru in the next match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Maybe what you have to worry about is the match. Fans must hope that Neymar can avoid injury again. Because if Neymat gets injured again then Neymar will definitely be hampered from his debut at Al-Hilal.
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September 09, 2023, 11:20:49 PM
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Checking the Saudi League table I can see Al Hazem is on the bottom of the table because they spent too much money in this season and Al Hazem hired many players.
Recently they hired Ryan Al-Mousa and Mohammed Abousaban for their teams.
It's not surprising me to see hazm placed at the bottom. This club was also being relegated during 2021 - 2022 season by also placed at the bottom as well. Hazm acquired many local players to remain in the Saudi Pro League, but they are mostly not helpful to the team because they lack quality.. The club keeps repeat the same pattern that happened during 2021 - 2022 season. This club may also be relegated again this season. Im feeling bad for this club caused by it's always losing the points.

Al Hazem hired 19 players in this transfer window and they changed their team a lot but still, they got only 2 points so far./img]     
That's a lot of players. It's almost two teams being hired by this team. Hazm needs to focus on the quality of its players intead of quantities. I saw that if those players are not helping a lot to the club.
Hazm is still placing at the bottom. The club was losing everything during the early season of SPL.

I saw that those 19 transfers are gambling transfers by al hazm to avoid the relegation zone. It's likely this club will be relegated this season.

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September 09, 2023, 11:30:06 PM
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I do not know if that is the case here as well, I do not know if he is injured or not, maybe he just lacks match shape and condition, but at the end of the day do not expect many games from him as fans, because he is going to miss many games and will not be playing in a lot of games.

Why do you believe Neymar will miss so many games? do you think the competition in this league is tougher than Ligue1? this is a discussion thread but your opinion cannot be confirmed. We've talked about Neymar before and he's past his injury as we know he is already actively playing with Brazil, if you want to know Neymar's current condition you can watch it here BRASIL vs. BOLIVIA Neymar scored 2 goals in this match and we have no doubts about his condition when he plays with Al-Hilal next week. What is certain is that Al-Hilal carried out a medical test before signing him obviously they won't spend much money if he just sits on the bench.

Yep, as you said, Neymar has recovered 100% and he has impressed with the Brazilian national team. I even think Neymar will be able to have a big impact on Al Hilal front line because this league is easier than Ligue 1. However, we are still waiting for his first match with Al Hilal next week. I hope he makes his first match with a score that is quite impressive, either with his goal contribution or his assists

Neymar is a versatile player, he has skills that are enough to please the audience. I am sure he will have no difficulty adapting to the Al Hilal team because professional players will not have difficulty playing in any team because his character can inspire other players to follow his game.

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Neymar's current condition is quite fit. And the proof is in the Brazil vs Bolivia match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Even Neymar played the full 90 minutes of the match. And he also scored 2 goals in the 61st and 90+3 minutes. So you are right that Neymar is definitely ready to play at Al-Hilal too. Al-Hilal will face Al-Shabab in the next match.

And actually, during this international break, Neymar will also play again with his national team, namely Brazil, to face Peru in the next match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Maybe what you have to worry about is the match. Fans must hope that Neymar can avoid injury again. Because if Neymat gets injured again then Neymar will definitely be hampered from his debut at Al-Hilal.

Neymar game was good for now,they are ready to face both the Al Hilal and the Al Shabab.If the game of Neymar was continued in a same way, they can win the Cup in the upcoming days.The Neymar game was unique one today,So they can easily face the big team like matches against the Brazil.The game for Neymar on the national team is most important to the Brazil now.The shocking one is the coach of Al Hilal asked the Neymar to take rest for now.But it was this shocking but the coach of Al Hilal,it was the good sportsman spirit.The other coach should take this as an example to treat all equally,player or coach doesn’t matter.
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I do not know if that is the case here as well, I do not know if he is injured or not, maybe he just lacks match shape and condition, but at the end of the day do not expect many games from him as fans, because he is going to miss many games and will not be playing in a lot of games.

Why do you believe Neymar will miss so many games? do you think the competition in this league is tougher than Ligue1? this is a discussion thread but your opinion cannot be confirmed. We've talked about Neymar before and he's past his injury as we know he is already actively playing with Brazil, if you want to know Neymar's current condition you can watch it here BRASIL vs. BOLIVIA Neymar scored 2 goals in this match and we have no doubts about his condition when he plays with Al-Hilal next week. What is certain is that Al-Hilal carried out a medical test before signing him obviously they won't spend much money if he just sits on the bench.

Yep, as you said, Neymar has recovered 100% and he has impressed with the Brazilian national team. I even think Neymar will be able to have a big impact on Al Hilal front line because this league is easier than Ligue 1. However, we are still waiting for his first match with Al Hilal next week. I hope he makes his first match with a score that is quite impressive, either with his goal contribution or his assists

Neymar is a versatile player, he has skills that are enough to please the audience. I am sure he will have no difficulty adapting to the Al Hilal team because professional players will not have difficulty playing in any team because his character can inspire other players to follow his game.

Neymar is still healthy enough to contribute to football. I still see the burning passion in him. But we still see and note one thing: Neymar still plays with all his heart when wearing the national team shirt. And when he was at PSG and Al Hilal, I thought he was working for a salary. He doesn't put in the effort to get results.

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Neymar's current condition is quite fit. And the proof is in the Brazil vs Bolivia match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Even Neymar played the full 90 minutes of the match. And he also scored 2 goals in the 61st and 90+3 minutes. So you are right that Neymar is definitely ready to play at Al-Hilal too. Al-Hilal will face Al-Shabab in the next match.

And actually, during this international break, Neymar will also play again with his national team, namely Brazil, to face Peru in the next match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Maybe what you have to worry about is the match. Fans must hope that Neymar can avoid injury again. Because if Neymat gets injured again then Neymar will definitely be hampered from his debut at Al-Hilal.

Neymar game was good for now,they are ready to face both the Al Hilal and the Al Shabab.If the game of Neymar was continued in a same way, they can win the Cup in the upcoming days.The Neymar game was unique one today,So they can easily face the big team like matches against the Brazil.
This is just information that Neymar's condition had not yet fully recovered when he was called up to the Brazilian national team to face Bolivia in the World Cup qualifying match. Even the Al-Hilal coach seems to really regret the decision of the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) to call up Neymar, who is still not 100% fit. But Neymar himself apparently felt he was capable of playing so he left.
(Sourch: https://bola.tempo.co/read/1769730/belum-sembuh-dari-cedera-neymar-dipanggil-ke-timnas-brasil-untuk-kualifikasi-piala-dunia-2026)



But Neymar's condition is actually not that bad. In fact, Neymar was ready before the Al-Hilal vs Al-Ittihad match. But coach Al-Hilal was only worried about Neymar's condition and told him to rest for the match and not to rush his debut. But yeah, coach Al-Hilal is definitely annoyed. Because Neymar actually has to play with his national team. But this does prove that Neymar is fine even though he has not fully recovered. Neymar even scored 2 goals in the match against Bolivia. And reportedly this made Neymar the top scorer in the Brazilian national team, even more than the legend Pele. So Neymar decided that playing in the Brazil vs Bolivia match was a good step for Neymar. Because he has written his name in the history of football players who surpassed Pele in scoring goals for the Brazilian national team. Hopefully he can play with Al-Hilal better.
(Sourch: https://www.detik.com/jabar/sepakbola/d-6922135/sah-gol-neymar-lampaui-rekor-pele-di-timnas-brasil)

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September 09, 2023, 11:50:52 PM
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Neymar is still healthy enough to contribute to football. I still see the burning passion in him. But we still see and note one thing: Neymar still plays with all his heart when wearing the national team shirt. And when he was at PSG and Al Hilal, I thought he was working for a salary. He doesn't put in the effort to get results.
You can't say that, because when he was with PSG he often had injuries, which is what prevented him from making a big contribution to PSG. But at Al Hilal we haven't seen his first game, therefore we can't say that he can't make a big contribution to Al Hilal. Moreover, this is an easier league for Neymar, of course he will have no difficulty scoring lots of goals. I admit that some of the major criticism has come against him because of their doubts about his frequent injury susceptibility. But that's not a bad estimate because he can handle it.

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September 10, 2023, 01:27:35 AM
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You can't say that, because when he was with PSG he often had injuries, which is what prevented him from making a big contribution to PSG. But at Al Hilal we haven't seen his first game, therefore we can't say that he can't make a big contribution to Al Hilal. Moreover, this is an easier league for Neymar, of course he will have no difficulty scoring lots of goals. I admit that some of the major criticism has come against him because of their doubts about his frequent injury susceptibility. But that's not a bad estimate because he can handle it.
You're on point anyways, Neymar is an injury prone player no doubt but he's not injured currently and is only sidelined by the manager to be fully fit before he gets featured, and we all know how good Neymar could be when he's attained full fitness, he's skillful, good with passes and plays brilliant football and would really contribute alot for Al-Hilal this season
 The tournament is still far and I believe he'll get alot of playing time to showcase his talent to the Saudi's and help his team win the trophy this season, i love the manager is helping him to attain full form my resting him in some matches currently so by the time he comes into the starting  he'll be fully fit make good contributions to his team, he's been successful at Barcelona, PSG and even while playing for his country brasil, so I believe playing for Al-Hilal won't be a difficult task.
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The mate may have made that statement without proper considerations or taking into account the current performance of the player in the Brazilians team and his outstanding performance in the last match as you mention,  Neymar was able to secure two goals in the game even though he just recovered from that major injury.

The season has just begun,  and there is no need to be overly concerned about a player who is already doing excellently well in the few games played so far.

Yeah we all know a few weeks ago Neymar was injured but they don't know if Neymar condition back to normal it seems they missed the news
I also didn't expect him to recover early so I was surprised when I saw him playing with Brazil at least this is what we and Al-Hilal fans hope for
We want to see the struggles of the stars in this league who come from different leagues Neymar, Benzema and Ronaldo.

And actually, during this international break, Neymar will also play again with his national team, namely Brazil, to face Peru in the next match in the World Cup Qualifiers. Maybe what you have to worry about is the match. Fans must hope that Neymar can avoid injury again. Because if Neymat gets injured again then Neymar will definitely be hampered from his debut at Al-Hilal.

Brazil national team and Al-Hilal certainly understand these conditions they will not take risks unless absolutely necessary, in the upcoming match Neymar will play but it is not yet known whether as a starter or substitute.

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September 10, 2023, 04:05:46 AM
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This is just information that Neymar's condition had not yet fully recovered when he was called up to the Brazilian national team to face Bolivia in the World Cup qualifying match. Even the Al-Hilal coach seems to really regret the decision of the Brazilian Football Confederation (CBF) to call up Neymar, who is still not 100% fit. But Neymar himself apparently felt he was capable of playing so he left.
(Sourch: https://bola.tempo.co/read/1769730/belum-sembuh-dari-cedera-neymar-dipanggil-ke-timnas-brasil-untuk-kualifikasi-piala-dunia-2026)



But Neymar's condition is actually not that bad. In fact, Neymar was ready before the Al-Hilal vs Al-Ittihad match. But coach Al-Hilal was only worried about Neymar's condition and told him to rest for the match and not to rush his debut. But yeah, coach Al-Hilal is definitely annoyed. Because Neymar actually has to play with his national team. But this does prove that Neymar is fine even though he has not fully recovered. Neymar even scored 2 goals in the match against Bolivia. And reportedly this made Neymar the top scorer in the Brazilian national team, even more than the legend Pele. So Neymar decided that playing in the Brazil vs Bolivia match was a good step for Neymar. Because he has written his name in the history of football players who surpassed Pele in scoring goals for the Brazilian national team. Hopefully he can play with Al-Hilal better.
(Sourch: https://www.detik.com/jabar/sepakbola/d-6922135/sah-gol-neymar-lampaui-rekor-pele-di-timnas-brasil)

Well, I have read the news you linked and I think I understand why Jorge Jesus was a little annoyed with Neymar being called up to the Brazilian national team. Because he is worried that Neymar will get injured in the next 2 matches in the World Cup Qualifiers. This could mean that Neymar will not be able to play for Al-Hilal in the near future. But the report also stated that Neymar himself had clarified that he had recovered and was fine. It's just that Neymar also said that he hasn't recovered 100% but is fine.

I personally understand how Jorge Jesus feels worried about Neymar. But he also couldn't stop Neymar from defending his own country. I think for every player playing for his own national team is an extraordinary source of pride. And Neymar certainly feels the same way.

Thank you for the news you linked.
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For the fact that we know that Neymar is an injury player does not mean that he does not have enough time to play. When Neymar was in Barcelona, he played a lot of matches, even when he was in PSG. He played a lot of matches and he even plays good matches of Brazil's national team unless for few occasions that he will be injured before the tournament finishes and most time he will return to play the final stages of the tournament. He cannot be a liability to his new club. He will have time to play, also the competition in the Arabia Pro League is not much and besides from the sales of jersy of Naymer, the club can still make a lot of money.
Neymar is never been having ideal situation in PSG because most of the time he faces injuries which hurt him badly and things are mostly going to be here as we have PSG but with this all we need to check few other things are also as here in Saudi Arab conditions are never been easy for these players hot weather and few other things surely going to have impact on their body and performance as well.
 
Here Neymar's entrance is just for the media coverage and having good impact in South American market as well because if they have Messi then surely it's going to be better for them but after his rejection they bring another big name no doubt he will give time to league and also try his best for good performance which is main target but still not many expectations because of his history.

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