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July 30, 2025, 03:13:02 AM
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To be honest, I don't believe that Joao Felix will be able to play well even at Al Nassr, because with every loan and every transfer, he seems to play worse and worse, and it seems that he simply doesn't understand modern football.
Of course, the Saudi league is lower in level than the EPL, but over the last two years, some very strong players have come there, and not all of the top players of the past have been able to play there.
For example, Neymar couldn't even play in the Saudi league, just like John Duran, who was bought for a huge amount of money by Aston Villa, but Duran couldn't play at the level he showed at Aston Villa.
Neymar would have performed well if not for too many injuries. He couldn't play many games and had to leave when it became obvious that he was injury-prone. We cannot predict how Joao Felix's time in Al Nassr will be. He might end up working hard and become an asset in the Saudi Professional League. I wish him the best because he has endured some hard times.
I think Joao currently has considerable potential to be able to play well at Al Nasr. Because at Al Nasr he has a very great senior, Ronaldo, so with this it is certain that Felix will get a lot of guidance from Ronaldo so that he can play even better. Therefore we do not need to be too pessimistic about Felix. Because we don't know what will happen to him at Al Nasr. Because he also hasn't played there, so with this I think we have to wait for the new season to start to see Felix's performance.

Besides that, if we compare Felix with Neymar, I don't think we can equate him with Felix. Because actually Neymar is not unable to perform well in the Saudi Arabian league, but as we know Neymar is often injured. Even when he was recruited by Al Hilal, Neymar was injured. That's why comparing Neymar with Felix, I don't think it's the right thing. Because currently Felix has a fit body and is also not injured at all, so with this it is likely that he can perform well with Al Nasr.

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July 30, 2025, 03:44:28 AM
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To be honest, I don't believe that Joao Felix will be able to play well even at Al Nassr, because with every loan and every transfer, he seems to play worse and worse, and it seems that he simply doesn't understand modern football.
Of course, the Saudi league is lower in level than the EPL, but over the last two years, some very strong players have come there, and not all of the top players of the past have been able to play there.
For example, Neymar couldn't even play in the Saudi league, just like John Duran, who was bought for a huge amount of money by Aston Villa, but Duran couldn't play at the level he showed at Aston Villa.
The Saudi Arabian League and the Premier League are on different levels, so there's no reason to doubt Joao Felix's ability in the Saudi Arabian League. I'm sure if he's coached by the right coach and one who suits his playing style, he'll quickly develop. He's still very young and has plenty of time to learn and become a good player. Even if his career in the Europa League has been poor, he can at least prove his quality in the Saudi League.

Actually, what you said isn't entirely true. Jhon Duran performed well at Al Nassr for six months after he was recruited before being loaned to Fenerbahçe. He scored 12 goals in 18 appearances in all competitions. I think that's quite good, but he experienced personal issues that made him uncomfortable in Saudi Arabia, and ultimately chose to move to another club.
As for Neymar, it wasn't that he didn't perform well at Al Hilal he suffered a long-term injury that kept him out for a long time. Saudi Arabia didn't suffer a loss by recruiting these players, but rather that they were unlucky because the players cannot contribute fully.

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July 30, 2025, 07:48:44 AM
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I think Joao currently has considerable potential to be able to play well at Al Nasr. Because at Al Nasr he has a very great senior, Ronaldo, so with this it is certain that Felix will get a lot of guidance from Ronaldo so that he can play even better. Therefore we do not need to be too pessimistic about Felix. Because we don't know what will happen to him at Al Nasr. Because he also hasn't played there, so with this I think we have to wait for the new season to start to see Felix's performance.

Besides that, if we compare Felix with Neymar, I don't think we can equate him with Felix. Because actually Neymar is not unable to perform well in the Saudi Arabian league, but as we know Neymar is often injured. Even when he was recruited by Al Hilal, Neymar was injured. That's why comparing Neymar with Felix, I don't think it's the right thing. Because currently Felix has a fit body and is also not injured at all, so with this it is likely that he can perform well with Al Nasr.
Joao Felix and Cristiano Ronaldo often play together on the Portuguese national team. This means the two players can immediately build the same good chemistry as they did when they played together. So, I think Felix will be quite reliable at Al-Nassr. Besides playing alongside Cristiano Ronaldo, we also know that Felix is ​​a very good young player. However, he often doesn't fit in with the clubs he joins. However, when Felix is ​​at his best, I think he can help Al-Nassr score many goals alongside Cristiano Ronaldo.

Neymar and Joao Felix are truly incomparable. They're not only at different levels but also at different ages. However, Neymar unfortunately didn't get much playing time at Al Hilal. He was injured for a long time and was eventually released back to Brazilian team Santos.











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July 30, 2025, 08:47:44 AM
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To be honest, I don't believe that Joao Felix will be able to play well even at Al Nassr, because with every loan and every transfer, he seems to play worse and worse, and it seems that he simply doesn't understand modern football.
Of course, the Saudi league is lower in level than the EPL, but over the last two years, some very strong players have come there, and not all of the top players of the past have been able to play there.
For example, Neymar couldn't even play in the Saudi league, just like John Duran, who was bought for a huge amount of money by Aston Villa, but Duran couldn't play at the level he showed at Aston Villa.

I hear this argument again and again that the Saudi Professional League is not at the same level as that of the European leagues. Well, at the moment you may not be able to compare the SPL with English Premier League, but I would say that it is at the same level as that of the Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga. João Félix was recommended by Ronaldo to the Al Nassr management and I am sure that he will be able to perform well. Ronaldo needs someone to back him up in attack, and Félix is well suited for that role.

The Saudi professional league cannot be compared to the English Premier League because the EPL is always the most competitive league in Europe, just imagine Tottenham that is one of the most competitive teams, finishing at number 17 in the EPL rankings last season. Also, I agreed with you that the Saudi Professional League is at the same level with the Bundesliga and Ligue 1 if not for the fact that those leagues were recognized before the SPL, i'll even argue that the SPL is stronger than the Bundesliga and Ligue 1. because PSG is the only strong team I can find in Ligue 1, but we can name a number of clubs in the SPL that are capable of competing against any of the top European teams, including Al-Ahli FC, Al Nassr, Al-Qadisiyah, Al-Ittihad, and Al Hilal. We all witnessed Al Hilal's performance in the Club World Cup, where they proved their strategy against some of the best European teams.

João Felix would be a great addition to Al Nassr, bringing significant impact to their attacking midfield, I don't think they would use him as a left winger at this time because Sadio Mane is already doing well in that position.

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July 30, 2025, 09:44:07 AM
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Casemiro was already declining when Real Madrid sold him to Manchester United, now he's really at the lowest point of his career. If he moves to Saudi Arabia then it would be a great deal for him because, for sure, he'll make a ton of money, but I don't know how much he will actually help the team.
However, I doubt Casemiro will accept an offer from a Saudi Pro League club. Reportedly, the player has already rejected several offers. So, it seems Casemiro is still comfortable at Manchester United, even though they haven't really made him their first choice among their existing players. However, I've seen Casemiro continue to be involved or played in several of Manchester United's preseason matches. Isn't that a sign that Casemiro isn't for sale and will still be used for the new season? This means Amorim is likely including Casemiro in their squad for the new season.

However, if Casemiro is willing to move to a Saudi club, he would certainly be a team that could make a significant contribution to a Saudi club like Al-Nassr, who are also interested in Casemiro.











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July 30, 2025, 10:38:15 AM
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Casemiro was already declining when Real Madrid sold him to Manchester United, now he's really at the lowest point of his career. If he moves to Saudi Arabia then it would be a great deal for him because, for sure, he'll make a ton of money, but I don't know how much he will actually help the team.

I don't think Casemiro was that bad when Real sold him. Neymar then said that Casemiro is the best defensive midfielder in the world. I don't think he was very biased. But the player is a tool, Ten Hag couldn't use this tool properly. It wasn't Casemiro's problem. He's 33 now and it's clear that for his position it's a significant age, but in the SPL he can definitely play 2-3 seasons at the top level, I would be happy if he moved there.

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July 30, 2025, 12:21:30 PM
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To be honest, I don't believe that Joao Felix will be able to play well even at Al Nassr, because with every loan and every transfer, he seems to play worse and worse, and it seems that he simply doesn't understand modern football.
Of course, the Saudi league is lower in level than the EPL, but over the last two years, some very strong players have come there, and not all of the top players of the past have been able to play there.
For example, Neymar couldn't even play in the Saudi league, just like John Duran, who was bought for a huge amount of money by Aston Villa, but Duran couldn't play at the level he showed at Aston Villa.
The Saudi Arabian League and the Premier League are on different levels, so there's no reason to doubt Joao Felix's ability in the Saudi Arabian League. I'm sure if he's coached by the right coach and one who suits his playing style, he'll quickly develop. He's still very young and has plenty of time to learn and become a good player. Even if his career in the Europa League has been poor, he can at least prove his quality in the Saudi League.

Right now, I think the Saudi league is among the top 10 strongest leagues in the world and every year the gap between it and the leaders is narrowing, so I don't think it will be easy for Felix in the Saudi league.
In 12 games for Chelsea, Felix scored 1 goal and in 15 games for Milan, he scored only 2 goals. To be honest, some defenders score as many or even more goals than he does. I understand that Felix is still quite young, he is 25 years old, but judging by his behavior on the field, it seems to me that he is stuck somewhere in 2019-2020 and simply does not understand how much football has changed.
Of course, Chelsea can be happy that they were able to make a decent profit on a forward who scores 1-2 goals per season, but I still don't understand why AL Nasr need him.

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July 30, 2025, 12:40:12 PM
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If Casemiro were to transfer to the Saudi Arabian league, as is being claimed, he would be a very strong midfielder there. At 33, he's still in excellent physical condition. He could continue his competitive streak, and playing alongside Cristiano Ronaldo would allow him to forge stronger bonds with past friendships. His integration into the team could also be rapid. I'm sure Saudi Arabia would offer him a substantial salary. This would be a deal that would satisfy both teams. However, the final outcome would, of course, depend on the player's wishes. In my opinion, 33 is a suitable age for a transfer.
Yes, at 33 years old, I also feel that Casemiro would be a perfect fit for the Saudi Arabian league. He would be a priority there and would command a substantial salary. Therefore, Casemiro should consider this option. However, according to circulating reports, Casemiro has rejected an offer from Al Nasr, citing his desire to play in the 2026 World Cup with the Brazilian national team. Therefore, he openly rejected Al Nasr's offer.

Therefore, Casemiro is unlikely to join any team in the Saudi Arabian league at this time. He currently seems quite comfortable at Manchester United. So, with this in mind, I believe Al Nasr will need to find another midfielder to replace him. But as of now, I haven't heard any news about which midfielder Al Nasr will bring in.

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July 30, 2025, 12:49:04 PM
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However, I doubt Casemiro will accept an offer from a Saudi Pro League club. Reportedly, the player has already rejected several offers. So, it seems Casemiro is still comfortable at Manchester United, even though they haven't really made him their first choice among their existing players. However, I've seen Casemiro continue to be involved or played in several of Manchester United's preseason matches. Isn't that a sign that Casemiro isn't for sale and will still be used for the new season? This means Amorim is likely including Casemiro in their squad for the new season.

However, if Casemiro is willing to move to a Saudi club, he would certainly be a team that could make a significant contribution to a Saudi club like Al-Nassr, who are also interested in Casemiro.
That's usually the case, players involved in preseason matches are usually already in the manager's plans. So, the chances of selling them are quite slim. However, several articles have also mentioned that Manchester United actually wants to release Casemiro because his contract with the club only has one season remaining. However, it seems there aren't many European clubs interested in signing Casemiro. So, with the lack of interest in the transfer market, Manchester United can only use him, especially since he's still quite good when he's at his best.

Al-Nassr reportedly made an offer to Casemiro, but it was rejected, right? So, Casemiro still wants to continue his career there (MU).

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July 30, 2025, 01:34:37 PM
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Casemiro was already declining when Real Madrid sold him to Manchester United, now he's really at the lowest point of his career. If he moves to Saudi Arabia then it would be a great deal for him because, for sure, he'll make a ton of money, but I don't know how much he will actually help the team.

I don't think Casemiro was that bad when Real sold him. Neymar then said that Casemiro is the best defensive midfielder in the world. I don't think he was very biased. But the player is a tool, Ten Hag couldn't use this tool properly. It wasn't Casemiro's problem. He's 33 now and it's clear that for his position it's a significant age, but in the SPL he can definitely play 2-3 seasons at the top level, I would be happy if he moved there.
The mistake when Casemiro moved to Man Utd was that he was handled by the wrong coach, Ten Hag could not use Casemiro as a weapon as you said and I admit that Ten Hag is the one to blame, especially with his current age, it is time for Casemiro to step aside from the top league championships, so the Arab league is the right harbor for Casemiro to enjoy football comfortably as well as a place to retire.

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July 30, 2025, 04:44:07 PM
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Casemiro was already declining when Real Madrid sold him to Manchester United, now he's really at the lowest point of his career. If he moves to Saudi Arabia then it would be a great deal for him because, for sure, he'll make a ton of money, but I don't know how much he will actually help the team.
I don't think Casemiro was that bad when Real sold him. Neymar then said that Casemiro is the best defensive midfielder in the world. I don't think he was very biased. But the player is a tool, Ten Hag couldn't use this tool properly. It wasn't Casemiro's problem. He's 33 now and it's clear that for his position it's a significant age, but in the SPL he can definitely play 2-3 seasons at the top level, I would be happy if he moved there.
He wasn't that bad, he was still very good but not great as he used to be. If I recall correctly Manchester United paid him 70 million euros and he earns something like 18 million euros per year, those numbers are just too high for a player that was clearly at the end of his prime. Real Madrid made a great deal selling him for that amount of money. I like Casemiro, he had a super successful career, I even remember him from Sao Paulo, but at that moment he wasn't worth that much money.

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July 30, 2025, 04:55:24 PM
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I think the most suitable player that should be accepted in Al Nassr is joao Felix other than the likes of Luka modric,Sergio Ramos and casimiro who are old and slow. In my own opinion I think this old fellas are eyeing to joined Al Nassr simply because of the money. There are simply too old for the job and would only be slowing down the team from making progress. Al Nassr shouldn't be a ground for old players close to retirement,the club needs young and experienced players that will be winning trophies and not the other way round. I know the likes of Modric,Ramos and casimiro are well experienced players but they don't have that much energy in them anymore to keep up in the field.  Joao Felix is a talented player that will certainly do well while playing alongside with his senior Portuguese counterpart Cristian Ronaldo. Playing in Al Nassr Joao Felix will have the opportunity to learn from a world best player like Ronaldo which will see him improve on his current form.
Modric could have been an awesome transfer if Al Nassr convinced him to join them instead of Milan, sure he is old and all, but he is still a great player, if he wasn't great then why would Milan get him? But aside from him, I agree about Ramos and Casemiro, they are just not that good, it is not even about the age, Ronaldo is old, but he plays great for that level, it's about keeping up and be good even at older age.

This is why we are seeing them not be that great even when they are younger. What we are seeing at the moment is keeping up with the age. So Modric would have been fine, but not others. Felix is great too, he is young ,and he can play there for a long time as well, if he can actually stay and be good of course.
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fuck men i know this is the Saudi League thread but come on, what a shit show is the Manchester United line up, i mean is the same shit we see in the last season. What are they expecting to change it? They are gonna have some same results that last year, and that are pretty bad ones.

Casemiro to Saudi league can bring some fresh money for them and change something.

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July 30, 2025, 05:33:29 PM
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Casemiro to Saudi league can bring some fresh money for them and change something.

I do not know the certainty, but the news is related to Casemiro rejecting an offer from a Saudi League club. Amorim has shown interest in bringing in a new midfielder for his project next season. However, the club may consider the finances to pay Casemiro's high salary. There is no doubt that if he can come to Saudi, United would benefit from bringing in the player Amorim desires. But we will see how things develop until the transfer window closes.

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July 30, 2025, 06:00:17 PM
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To be honest, I don't believe that Joao Felix will be able to play well even at Al Nassr, because with every loan and every transfer, he seems to play worse and worse, and it seems that he simply doesn't understand modern football.
Of course, the Saudi league is lower in level than the EPL, but over the last two years, some very strong players have come there, and not all of the top players of the past have been able to play there.
For example, Neymar couldn't even play in the Saudi league, just like John Duran, who was bought for a huge amount of money by Aston Villa, but Duran couldn't play at the level he showed at Aston Villa.
I think it's a lil bit unfair to decide about the performance of joao felix in the Al-Nassr club. There are facts about his previous career that after his move out he became harsh and did not perform well. And joao felix is an old player . Many players are working in the Saudi pro league beside the fact that this league is not as capable as the Europe League. But the financial offers which give to players are the main cause of the success and popularity of the Saudi pro league. But i think joao felix will perform well and avoid things which cause him towards failure and weaknesses. Clubs in saudi pro league trying to get the most eligible and hard working players as their main goal to host football world cup. Because already the top world class players are part of the Saudi pro league and some are still in the process.











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July 30, 2025, 07:09:31 PM
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I do not know the certainty, but the news is related to Casemiro rejecting an offer from a Saudi League club. Amorim has shown interest in bringing in a new midfielder for his project next season. However, the club may consider the finances to pay Casemiro's high salary. There is no doubt that if he can come to Saudi, United would benefit from bringing in the player Amorim desires. But we will see how things develop until the transfer window closes.
Ruben Amorim will enchance the club with more new faces and he's not relenting. Casemiro have been contributing to the club's progress but what more can we say because the club's been in terrible shape. What's the essence of watching Manchester United playing with the exact outdated and worn out midfielders previous season? It's time for an upgrade and we know the Red Devils will always bounce back to peak, just a matter of time. We're yet to understand what Casemiro really want because he's been concrete with his decision to stay in the club despite the manager scouting for midfielders in the transfer window. The Brazilian will be able to withstand competition when new faces come over.

 
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I think it's a lil bit unfair to decide about the performance of joao felix in the Al-Nassr club. There are facts about his previous career that after his move out he became harsh and did not perform well. And joao felix is an old player . Many players are working in the Saudi pro league beside the fact that this league is not as capable as the Europe League. But the financial offers which give to players are the main cause of the success and popularity of the Saudi pro league. But i think joao felix will perform well and avoid things which cause him towards failure and weaknesses. Clubs in saudi pro league trying to get the most eligible and hard working players as their main goal to host football world cup. Because already the top world class players are part of the Saudi pro league and some are still in the process.
Well I kind of understand him, his performance in three different clubs has been something else and you wouldn't blame anyone who will Felix's performance afterwards. For someone that played in Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and Chelsea. Those performances doesn't reflect what he did at Benfica before Atletico Madrid paid that huge transfer fee for him. Although, he might turn out differently but his assessment was from his previous performances.

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July 30, 2025, 07:55:31 PM
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I think about how the Saud Arab is playing and how things are going. We should definitely praise them for their intelligence. The whole scenario of the Saudi pro league is making a thought for all of the viewers about how smartly they are playing.  Because their goal is about something bigger to achieve. And by doing all they are preparing themselves for the football world cup. Almost all the talented players of Europe are working in the Saudi pro league. And they always try to keep the famous players by their side. The saudi pro league does not have financial issues which make their way even more smooth. And now the rumors are also that they are trying to buy the second world class player as the first one they already have. The presence of Cristiano Ronaldo is also playing their best in this league.

Without a doubt things are like that, we are Already seeing the first results, because in the Club World Cup it was seen that they have very good Preparation and the results of the Saudi teams were very respectable, so in view of this the results are obvious, the Saudi League is growing at a very fast pace , I think that many of us when the World Cup starts will see how Saudi Arabia plays, when I was little , as a child the Saudi matches for me were the most boring, I think that now they will be the most entertaining.

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July 30, 2025, 08:04:20 PM
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I do not know the certainty, but the news is related to Casemiro rejecting an offer from a Saudi League club. Amorim has shown interest in bringing in a new midfielder for his project next season. However, the club may consider the finances to pay Casemiro's high salary. There is no doubt that if he can come to Saudi, United would benefit from bringing in the player Amorim desires. But we will see how things develop until the transfer window closes.
Ruben Amorim will enchance the club with more new faces and he's not relenting. Casemiro have been contributing to the club's progress but what more can we say because the club's been in terrible shape. What's the essence of watching Manchester United playing with the exact outdated and worn out midfielders previous season? It's time for an upgrade and we know the Red Devils will always bounce back to peak, just a matter of time. We're yet to understand what Casemiro really want because he's been concrete with his decision to stay in the club despite the manager scouting for midfielders in the transfer window. The Brazilian will be able to withstand competition when new faces come over.

There's a lot of hype going around but facts say casemiro unwaveringly choose to stay at Manchester United for the next season . He refused offers from Saudi and European loan alternatives, choosing to battle for a spot and compete for starting position in Brazil's squad of 2026 World Cup. So even if coach Ruben Amorim's is looking for a midfielder in the market . Casimiro is staying for the moment.

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July 30, 2025, 09:43:51 PM
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Well I kind of understand him, his performance in three different clubs has been something else and you wouldn't blame anyone who will Felix's performance afterwards. For someone that played in Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and Chelsea. Those performances doesn't reflect what he did at Benfica before Atletico Madrid paid that huge transfer fee for him. Although, he might turn out differently but his assessment was from his previous performances.
At. Barcelona, his performance there seems like his best, he was probably at his peak in when he was and that was all of the performance we saw from him then, I think that also influenced the quest for him by Atletico,  at Chelsea he did not really do much but it is not enough to write him off just yet maybe let us hope he will do better here at Saudi, I am very optimistic about what his performance will be in Al Nasrr.

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