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[slackovic]

Cro2, question for you two, since you are interested parties, not just because a question

what happen if Wales and Croatia win both matches till the end, Turkey is already assigned as qualified, and all teams will have 16 points, probably some goal difference in a group, where Turkey is best?

/snip

I'm not from the Cro2 team, but I'm also an interested party If both Wales and Croatia wins both games, Wales will finish the group at the second place and Croatia will have to go to additional qualifications. I'm not sure what format is the additional qualification but I hope Turkey will beat Wales in the last game and we won't have to find out.

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[Jinetics1111]

Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled. 

[Trofo]

Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled. 

Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news 

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml

[Jinetics1111]

Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled. 

Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news 

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml

Lmao damn your right, but I had submitted answer already which was for Ronnie to lose (group exit  ) so I might have been on to something there.

[Trofo]

Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled. 

Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news 

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml

Lmao damn your right, but I had submitted answer already which was for Ronnie to lose (group exit  ) so I might have been on to something there.

It would have ended void probably anyway. I have the same group exit answer and if it is 50:50 we always make an ruling in a way that doesn't benefit us.

New article is up, so if you are interested give it a read:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/bitcointalk-sports-fanatics-league-season-3-round-4-recap

[Jinetics1111]

New article is up, so if you are interested give it a read:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/bitcointalk-sports-fanatics-league-season-3-round-4-recap
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Will do.

[mv1986]

Just got an update that the snooker match was cancelled. 

Ronnie withdrew due to mental fatigue. Ah well the question is void and and we have only 9 questions in this round, only fair option now that you mentioned it here. You could have kept quit and chosen group exit and then see what would be our decision after we read the news 

https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/champion-of-champions/2023-2024/ronnie-o-sullivan-drained-and-stressed-snooker-star-withdraws-from-champion-of-champions-title-defen_sto9882659/story.shtml

Lmao damn your right, but I had submitted answer already which was for Ronnie to lose (group exit  ) so I might have been on to something there.

It would have ended void probably anyway. I have the same group exit answer and if it is 50:50 we always make an ruling in a way that doesn't benefit us.

New article is up, so if you are interested give it a read:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/soccer/news/bitcointalk-sports-fanatics-league-season-3-round-4-recap

Ok so there is no VAR needed for anyone who said he is going to defend the title or something, right? If he had withdrawn shortly before his match started, what would the ruling have been then (for example, if he wouldn't have been replaced, if that is possible)?

I am just asking because I wonder whether our rule set is 100% precise here? I would have probably missed this info to be honest if it wasn't for it to be shared here.

[Harkorede]

It's been a while I made it to the article and as such I could not have been more proud of my team especially since emphasis were made on how good my team was against buwaytress with that 7-2 arse whopping on his home ground  

casperBGD, I'm coming for you next, beware! I just have an unfinished business with jeremypwr for now  

Division 1
CasperBGD is now on top of Div 1 with one slender point lead in front of Harkorede and vd309. All three with the wins in this round but vd309 and Harkorede have put in extra good performance and provided 7 correct answers each which was more than enough to win duels comfortably. Team buwaytress started the season a bit slowly and just 2 correct answers in this round were well below their usual standards. Team slaman29 is rooted at the bottom of the table and will have to start winning soon in order to avoid relegation.

[Trofo]

Ok so there is no VAR needed for anyone who said he is going to defend the title or something, right? If he had withdrawn shortly before his match started, what would the ruling have been then (for example, if he wouldn't have been replaced, if that is possible)?

I am just asking because I wonder whether our rule set is 100% precise here? I would have probably missed this info to be honest if it wasn't for it to be shared here.

Depends on how the question is written. But if Jinetics did not post here we would let it stand probably and correct answer would be Group Stage.
We have this in rules:

Forfeits in sports like Tennis or loses due to technical problems in eSports are counted as regular ML wins.

which sort of covers it.

When Jinetics wrote about it here it would be really unfair to count it and correct answer would depend on reading this thread. That is why I voided it immediately. We try to minimize situations like this but they happen and then we try to make a ruling that is most fair for the league as whole. Also another reason to not discuss questions before the deadline passed. I always wait with my opinions in order to not influence other members.

We don't have a habit of posting trick questions but it is possible we slip one here and there. For example we know Haaland is probably injured and we could ask how many goals he will score.

[Jinetics1111]

My apologies guys, I dropped the ball putting that info here. Won't happen again. 

[cryptofrka]

I'm using VAR for the tennis question - changing it to Đoković, Medvedev - winner Đoković.

Cro2, question for you two, since you are interested parties, not just because a question

what happen if Wales and Croatia win both matches till the end, Turkey is already assigned as qualified, and all teams will have 16 points, probably some goal difference in a group, where Turkey is best?

A triangle of teams with 16 points would be formed. The same criteria applies as if there were 2 teams.
Here's a link to UEFA rulebook in such cases:

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Article 15 Equality of points – qualifying group stage
15.01

If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of the qualifying group stage, the following criteria are applied, in the order given, to determine their rankings:
higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;
superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;
higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;
if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply in the order given to the two or more teams still equal:
superior goal difference in all group matches;
higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;
higher number of wins in all group matches;
higher number of away wins in all group matches;
lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
position in the overall 2022/23 UEFA Nations League rankings (see Regulations of the UEFA Nations League).

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Shame about Ronnie but yeah - we will void it.

[slackovic]

I'm using VAR for the tennis question - changing it to Đoković, Medvedev - winner Đoković.

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Wait... Didn't we suppose to give four players that will get to the semi finals and the winner? The question literally says "name 4 players"? Or did you just do your mafia stuff here with only two semi finalists?

[cryptofrka]

Wait... Didn't we suppose to give four players that will get to the semi finals and the winner? The question literally says "name 4 players"? Or did you just do your mafia stuff here with only two semi finalists?

Yep, you were. I did it in a hurry so I misread, then I used VAR in a hurry and misread it again.

If I told you how I'm spending my days recently you would not believe me Silly mistake from my side, but one I can clearly explain to the board.
My players are stretched too far, we're barely standing. Division 1 came at a wrong time for us.

[Trofo]

Wait... Didn't we suppose to give four players that will get to the semi finals and the winner? The question literally says "name 4 players"? Or did you just do your mafia stuff here with only two semi finalists?

He is so sure in his answer that he is giving his opponent handicap. Literally saying 3 points in this question is enough for me 

[buwaytress]

Ah I got it too, sorry about misunderstanding Omifikuse's situation -- or did I deliberately suss it out so that our poor sheriff can catch up? You're welcome, Igebotz.

Tsitsi's just gone done Rune a favour and counted himself out of the semis, in case anyone had lingering hopes there. Would have VAR'd snooker had I read it but guess I got saved there.

[Woodie]

goodpunt our group leader finally got to meet after a season long wait , and looking at submitted answers we have some similar submissions here which is quite interesting and unexpected

From the different answers we have, will be keeping an eye on the Hungary match, Argentina game, Columbia and Wales matches to see how I fair here...tbh this is a handful of games to get the draw and this might just be your first L of the season, fingers crossed

I'm using VAR for the tennis question - changing it to Đoković, Medvedev - winner Đoković.

/snip

Wait... Didn't we suppose to give four players that will get to the semi finals and the winner? The question literally says "name 4 players"? Or did you just do your mafia stuff here with only two semi finalists?

Mafia stuff lol

Semi finalists are four names indeed!! might be heading for missed points already...

Btw :

Code:

VAR rules: (29.6.2023)

-  Can be used to change answers in any round before that round's deadline
-  Can be used 3 times per season (2 times for season 2)

With Var having a limit, might aswel have a table of all users that have used it to avoid going over it(3 limit) 

[Trofo]

With Var having a limit, might aswel have a table of all users that have used it to avoid going over it(3 limit) 

That is why we have those 4 posts in the begging of the thread. To have all the important stuff at one place. Whoever wants to know all about competition should read trough them first. It is a lot to read but it covers almost everything
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438071.msg61709289#msg61709289
Here are your penalty points and VAR used. It is always updated by me at the moment when I update the results for the round. cryptofrka will enter on it on Sunday.

[Saint-loup]

My apologies guys, I dropped the ball putting that info here. Won't happen again. 

God bro you shouldn't smile, it's not funny I won't win the question because of that  You've obviously created this account in order to participate and now you are trolling the game, this is not fair. I think you deserve a formal warning like a yellow card.

[Jinetics1111]

My apologies guys, I dropped the ball putting that info here. Won't happen again. 

God bro you shouldn't smile, it's not funny I won't win the question because of that  You've obviously created this account in order to participate and now you are trolling the game, this is not fair. I think you deserve a formal warning like a yellow card.

Nope no trolling here bro, it was just an honest mistake. Out of character in fact, maybe I was feeling generous today. 

Need a VAR on that yellow card you're trying to get me issued as well. LOL

[casperBGD]

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casperBGD, I'm coming for you next, beware! I just have an unfinished business with jeremypwr for now  

waiting for you
it is not up to me, got a critic from mafia organizer, and had to step up my game, because otherwise...

I had you as my favorite for the Div1 title, you finished 5th twice. I hope you improve on that, but the best you can do this year is 2nd because the mafia's in town.

will be a tough round with CLS63, four different answers, Hungary, Argentina, Belgium and South Africa vs Australia
hanging on cyclone news, that will hopefully void cricket semi-final and send South Africa directly into the finals due to rain