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[Harkorede]

Yeah, why wouldn't Indonesia score in extra time to ruin my pick?
The amount of 'against the odds' situations that are happening to me are beyond belief.

Harko, I'll still get you though. But a lead would have been nice to start with.

I was never going to trust Japan not after they lost to Iraq a couple of days ago, I'm quite surprised by the number of those that went with a Japan to win by 3-4 goals, after the halftime ended 1-Nil, I believed the likelihood was slimmer, although hell yeah, I was very close to getting it wrong, but if your arse was about to be saved by an 88th minute own goal, I guess I'd gladly take a 90+1 minute consolation goal too 

[slackovic]

This is why I didn't join AFCON pool. I have no idea about that and also about Asian cup so I would have definitely lost.

I guess this will be another boring round because Trofo and me have many answers that are the same. But that doesn't mean we can't comment on the results

[Trofo]

This is why I didn't join AFCON pool. I have no idea about that and also about Asian cup so I would have definitely lost.

I guess this will be another boring round because Trofo and me have many answers that are the same. But that doesn't mean we can't comment on the results

Nobody can predict those things, that is why it is fun to play. I have no idea and don't plan to watch them anytime soon, does not mean I am gonna skip the pool. Did not even check the table until now and I was quite sure I am already a goal or two behind so seeing that we are still even will count like a win in my book 

[casperBGD]

~snip
Nobody can predict those things, that is why it is fun to play.

AFCON and Asian cup are interesting to follow scores and learn flags (I am challenging my kid to recognize all of them), but to watch football is pretty much boring
last two matches were prime AFCON, two 0:0 games, and Tunisia as one of tournament favorites needed a win, but didn't attack at all
so they joined their neighbors Algeria, they can fly home together

while on Asian cup only question is will Japan win, or South Korea, and that match will probably be interesting to watch as well
but as twitter pointed out (didn't check, but think that is true), India and China have 2,8 billion people together, but playing 6 matches on Asian cup, against mediocre teams, and didn't even score a goal, not mentioning eventually win a match

[slackovic]

Nobody can predict those things, that is why it is fun to play. I have no idea and don't plan to watch them anytime soon, does not mean I am gonna skip the pool. Did not even check the table until now and I was quite sure I am already a goal or two behind so seeing that we are still even will count like a win in my book 

Well... If I join a pool then I like to research my answers before submitting them. And I have no idea about teams playing the AFCON cup so I don't like doing research on teams like that.

As for our sidebet, I hope that Zheng can beat Yastremska who is a qualificant to go trough to the final.

[Chi20]

Hello @trofo and cryptofrka,  don't know if this is a suggestion or should I call it help.  I was thinking if there's a way one can actually see through spreadsheet answers with mobile.  Like if you guys can leave a enough space for viewing answers since there's always some space left at the spreadsheet.  Because mostly one is always with his/her phone and its can be easily checked without having to use a laptop. 
Summary, I can't really check my opponent answers with my phone when there's a long answer to a question.  Can you guys leave enough space for the answers to be viewable on mobile. Like right now , my Microsoft isn't responding and instand of me to just check my opponent answers with my mobile,  I can't see all his answers because some answers are long .

[mv1986]

This is why I didn't join AFCON pool. I have no idea about that and also about Asian cup so I would have definitely lost.

I guess this will be another boring round because Trofo and me have many answers that are the same. But that doesn't mean we can't comment on the results

Well, maybe sometimes having no idea could also turn into an advantage! But playing several pools and BSFL can become quite time consuming if someone is willing to put in the time to conduct thorough research. BSFL is fun, but it is a little challenge at times. When a different sport comes up, I always wonder whether Trofo and Cryptofrka have included a little trick to make the question more fun. That's when I end up taking quite some time to understand drawings and stuff, like in the Snooker questions for example.

Didn't pay a lot of attention to AFCON either and I really have no idea how most of the national teams there are doing. Who is actually the favorite for that tournament?

[notblox1]

We have a group, so both a group and a channel would be overkill. We could maybe improve a bit and pin stuff more often.

You could and you should do it in next season 
For start you can try to post reminders for people to send questions on time.
We dont need to have 100 players but we need players that wont frequently miss to send answers and make a mess in Division 3.

That place is boring and quiet as graveyard( the part nobody will tell you). I left the same day I joined and I never looked back. All discussion is better on this thread, I do not see any reason to create a telegram group honestly.

Dont say that!
Snake is going to bite you, and you wont receive candies anymore 
In fact Sportsbet telegram is very active in other parts, so BSFL telegram needs to improve and be up to standards.

[Renato297]

We have a group, so both a group and a channel would be overkill. We could maybe improve a bit and pin stuff more often.

You could and you should do it in next season 
For start you can try to post reminders for people to send questions on time.
We dont need to have 100 players but we need players that wont frequently miss to send answers and make a mess in Division 3.

For notifications we can configure Telegram in a bot, when Trofo or Cryptofrka tags me, the Telegram bot notifies the update of the tables and the questions of the next round, I think not everyone here knows it.

[Igebotz]

That place is boring and quiet as graveyard( the part nobody will tell you). I left the same day I joined and I never looked back. All discussion is better on this thread, I do not see any reason to create a telegram group honestly.

Dont say that!
Snake is going to bite you, and you wont receive candies anymore 
In fact Sportsbet telegram is very active in other parts, so BSFL telegram needs to improve and be up to standards.

I am the Sheriff, and this is what I do, correct? I'm interested what we'll be discussing in the Telegram group that we can't have here, like banter and sharing some hilarious emojis, right? But, again, how many individuals are willing to join the group and stay active? There are over 50 players in the league, but only about 20 are active on the thread, the rest are uninterested in this discussion, and convincing them to join the Telegram group will be difficult.

I like the idea I'm not kicking against it just stating the obvious.

I could have taken up Trofo for a side bet - the week is boring and longer than I expected.

[Harkorede]

We have a group, so both a group and a channel would be overkill. We could maybe improve a bit and pin stuff more often.

You could and you should do it in next season  
For start you can try to post reminders for people to send questions on time.
We dont need to have 100 players but we need players that wont frequently miss to send answers and make a mess in Division 3.

For notifications we can configure Telegram in a bot, when Trofo or Cryptofrka tags me, the Telegram bot notifies the update of the tables and the questions of the next round, I think not everyone here knows it.

The Telegram bot notification has been discussed a few times here already in both the first and second seasons, I'm pretty almost every player here uses it, but the problem how often people pay attention to the notifications, it could be easily when you're away from your devices for a while when the reminder comes, but the interest is what will make everyone not forget about submitting their picks, no amount of notification can help when there is an apparent lack of interest, it's just the same thing with how many people you actively find in the Gambling discussion and how many people have actually ever joined any of the league pools hosted here.

[slackovic]

For notifications we can configure Telegram in a bot, when Trofo or Cryptofrka tags me, the Telegram bot notifies the update of the tables and the questions of the next round, I think not everyone here knows it.

The Telegram bot notification has been discussed a few times here already in both the first and second seasons, I'm pretty almost every player here uses it, but the problem how often people pay attention to the notifications, it could be easily when you're away from your devices for a while when the reminder comes, but the interest is what will make everyone not forget about submitting their picks, no amount of notification can help when there is an apparent lack of interest, it's just the same thing with how many people you actively find in the Gambling discussion and how many people have actually ever joined any of the league pools hosted here.
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That's true. I have a Telegram bot set up to notify me on every new message here and it works well. I turned off notifications on almost every Telegram channel that I'm a part of so I don't get pinged that much. But I have also developed a habit on checking questions on Monday and answering them trough Monday and Tuesday so I never miss the deadline.

But I agree that if someone is not that interested in the BSFL, all the notifications in the world won't make them submit answers on time.

[Trofo]

Regarding telegram discussion:
1. We can't run BSFL in any way that requires constant involvement from Sportsbet and we don't have admin rights in their telegram group

2. Only thing that gets us funding and keeps BSFL going is actually activity here on bitcointalk. Why would we shoot the project down in such effective way with providing another place to talk about it and take people away from here. It would be so much easier to give you the link for the competition on site where we are running it than to write reports here. But we are doing in this way to get people to come here.

3. One of points behind BSFL was to integrate people from clubhouse and bring them to bitcointalk. I think current setup is perfect for that.

4. We don't want to babysit players, we want engaged managers. If you aren't able to post answers in time when you have 48 hours to do so and always the same deadline - BSFL isn't for you. We had to do it like that in the beginning to create a core base of players but we don't want to send notifications and hold you by the hand all the time.

5. Everything we could ever pin on telegram is written in first 4 posts of this thread. Is checking them so much harder then reading pinned messages in telegram? I mean we loose time every aingle week to uodate them with all new info, if nobody uses them, what's the point  

[slackovic]

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5. Everything we could ever pin on telegram is written in first 4 posts of this thread. Is checking them so much harder then reading pinned messages in telegram? I mean we loose time every aingle week to uodate them with all new info, if nobody uses them, what's the point  

Those first few posts in this thread are great spirce of information. Everything we all need is written there and I think that it's a perfect way. I often check them at the end of a round to see who I'm up against in the next round, but also when I wanna see my standings on the table. All in all, I think the way you manage this competition is great and you don't need to change anything.

A Telegram group would kill this thread or it would be empty all the time if the conversation resumes here, so there's no point in having two channels of communication.

[buwaytress]

Damn, Coco, why you so easy lose? Now I've to hope Zheng overcomes an early setback. Can't make life too easy for Alex now can I?

Oh and forum only please. Telegram is hard to navigate for this kind of comp. Great chatting place and maybe even for work but BSFL works because of this forum format...

Yeah, why wouldn't Indonesia score in extra time to ruin my pick?
The amount of 'against the odds' situations that are happening to me are beyond belief.

Japan's been great at scoring, but they've had some really crazy defensive blips too but Indonesia are perhaps a little stronger than bookies think. Malaysia should get hammered today though.

[Chi20]

Damn, Coco, why you so easy lose? Now I've to hope Zheng overcomes an early setback. Can't make life too easy for Alex now can I?


Japan's been great at scoring, but they've had some really crazy defensive blips too but Indonesia are perhaps a little stronger than bookies think. Malaysia should get hammered today though.

Japan is not leaving up to the expectations,  if they can concede a goal against Indonesia,  I now have doubts in them.

And Q.Zheng wins,  Chelsea over to you, don't let us down!

[Chi20]

Hello @trofo and cryptofrka,  don't know if this is a suggestion or should I call it help.  I was thinking if there's a way one can actually see through spreadsheet answers with mobile.  Like if you guys can leave a enough space for viewing answers since there's always some space left at the spreadsheet.  Because mostly one is always with his/her phone and its can be easily checked without having to use a laptop. 
Summary, I can't really check my opponent answers with my phone when there's a long answer to a question.  Can you guys leave enough space for the answers to be viewable on mobile. Like right now , my Microsoft isn't responding and instand of me to just check my opponent answers with my mobile,  I can't see all his answers because some answers are long .

  Is there any positive thing that can be done about this?

[Harkorede]

Damn, Coco, why you so easy lose? Now I've to hope Zheng overcomes an early setback. Can't make life too easy for Alex now can I?

Oh and forum only please. Telegram is hard to navigate for this kind of comp. Great chatting place and maybe even for work but BSFL works because of this forum format...

I didn't expect Coco Gauff to win against Sabalenka to be honest, this one of the few times I let emotion cloud my Judgement rather than logic, I hate Tennis questions that have either Coco or Alcaraz, because I'll always go with them even when it's high illogical, just like how I'd never pick Barcelona to lose in these questions too, my biggest weak links 

[slackovic]

Oh wow! The fact that both Sabalenka and Zheng made it to the final means that I got my first point. Trofo decided to secure at least one point in the 10th question, but my risk payed off in the end. And that point means much as we have only three different answers if we are not counting penalty question. Now I just need Đoković to beat Sinner and lose 2 sets in that game. I think I will at least secure penalties with that result. I made a mistake when answering that Đoković will go to the final and lose 5 or more sets. I miscalculated how many games he has to play before the final.

[cryptofrka]

Hello @trofo and cryptofrka,  don't know if this is a suggestion or should I call it help.  I was thinking if there's a way one can actually see through spreadsheet answers with mobile.  Like if you guys can leave a enough space for viewing answers since there's always some space left at the spreadsheet.  Because mostly one is always with his/her phone and its can be easily checked without having to use a laptop. 
Summary, I can't really check my opponent answers with my phone when there's a long answer to a question.  Can you guys leave enough space for the answers to be viewable on mobile. Like right now , my Microsoft isn't responding and instand of me to just check my opponent answers with my mobile,  I can't see all his answers because some answers are long .

A tricky one - we know it's a problem, yeah. The thing is that we don't know how much we need to widen the columns in order for them to be visible on phone.
Most of the columns in which you can't fully see the answer would have to be too wide compared to the others, which would then ruin the experience for those that check on PC.

How many of you check the spreadsheet on the phone? If it's only a few then we'll probably leave it as it is, but if it's a lot we'll find a way to show full answers without ruining the experience for others.