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August 30, 2023, 10:37:47 PM
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When we think that there is an enough time period like 9 races for the ones who want to make a surprise by coming from behind, every point will be much more valuable in last 9 races.

Securing the yellow jersey for this thrilling season-opening race is a decent start, considering that I am currently in 20 place with a 17-point deficit to the leader. Consistency and my tactical decisions in the following races are crucial if I want to catch up. The yellow jersey is proof that I'm moving in the right direction since I got it. It's difficult to keep up the momentum and make the most of the remaining races in order to close the points deficit, but maybe I can get up to where someone else shares the cake with me, hehehehe! Good fortune!
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August 30, 2023, 11:59:22 PM
Last edit: August 31, 2023, 12:11:41 AM by 1miau
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Very exciting Dutch grand prix, should happen more often to have mixed conditions, where strategy is very important. McLaren and Russell got screwed and couldn't recover during the race, very unfortunate for them. Norris had a good qualifying, so a strong appearance in Monza is likely.
And Ferrari once again a race to forget, especially for Leclerc. Maybe Monza, Ferrari's home race, will be better. No rain forecasted for now, where Ferrari might be happy about because Ferrari seems to be struggling in rain.

However it is really very difficult to make a choice for the places after that. Therefore I think this season is going on really amusingly in terms of the pool.
Normally, Perez should be clearly second but his performance in qualifying is extremely unreliable. Sometimes he's getting second place and (even more often) he's not making Q3...
Monza is a high speed track and if he's able to nail the few corners, he will have have a good qualifying hopefully.
After RedBull, it's really difficult to predict. McLaren is strong currently but Mercedes and Ferrari are in on a podium as well. I wouldn't underestimate Ferrari on their home race.
Aston Martin seems to have fallen behind a bit but Alonso showed a good position is still possible in an Aston Martin in Zandvoort.

Race won't be that entertaining like last week but hopefully, we are in for a few surprises. Verstappen can't win every time.  Cheesy



Even though Formula 1 stays quite weak in terms of competition this season there is a really big competition in our pool. There is a difference of only 2.5 points between first-placed slaman29 and 6th-placed swogerino.
Nice to have such a close race, will be exciting 9 rounds left.  Smiley
2.5 points are really not much, one bad / great round can be a decider.

We can understand when we look at the scoreboard that 1miau is following a different strategy about EBP points.
Luckily, I've not changed my picks for the last 4 or 5 races, where a lot of chaos was involved.
Changing picks on a track, where overtaking is easily possible or even in rainy conditions is always risky, because so many chaos can happen and grid positions will be shuffeled.

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August 31, 2023, 02:03:34 PM
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About Perez, I also put him in 2nd and got screwed, his last positions was 6, 3, then 2.

By the way in RB racing team global pool I am 514/10800 players. Top guy is 184 points!

I also couldn't understand how Perez fell behind this much. On top of that he managed to capture the leading position by pitting in the first lap. It is easy to put Verstappen to the first place. However it is really very difficult to make a choice for the places after that. Therefore I think this season is going on really amusingly in terms of the pool.

Remember when he won a race early in season and Verstappen just couldn't get over it. And then something happened there to just kick Max into gear great but it had the total opposite effect for his teammate it seems.

The way this season goes, Perez is a big gamble just for podium.

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August 31, 2023, 07:55:57 PM
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Remember when he won a race early in season and Verstappen just couldn't get over it. And then something happened there to just kick Max into gear great but it had the total opposite effect for his teammate it seems.

The way this season goes, Perez is a big gamble just for podium.

For Perez it will be probably his last season at RBR.

It is not just a case they give to Riccardo a seat into Alpha Tauri...

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August 31, 2023, 09:25:46 PM
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Remember when he won a race early in season and Verstappen just couldn't get over it. And then something happened there to just kick Max into gear great but it had the total opposite effect for his teammate it seems.

The way this season goes, Perez is a big gamble just for podium.

For Perez it will be probably his last season at RBR.

It is not just a case they give to Riccardo a seat into Alpha Tauri...

I also don't find Perez's performance good enough. However I don't understand why Red Bull are looking for a driver in his place. He is at the 2nd place in the championship now. I think a driver who can compete with Max would absolutely harm the team. Besides we need to accept that Red Bull don't act fairly to these two drivers. As a matter of fact I think the cars of these two drivers are seriously different.

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September 01, 2023, 12:04:54 AM
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Remember when he won a race early in season and Verstappen just couldn't get over it. And then something happened there to just kick Max into gear great but it had the total opposite effect for his teammate it seems.

The way this season goes, Perez is a big gamble just for podium.

For Perez it will be probably his last season at RBR.

It is not just a case they give to Riccardo a seat into Alpha Tauri...
I believe Perez will stay for another season at RedBull.
He's not really that bad but he's just inconsistent. He's screwing up his qualification but he's always decent during race. Yes, Verstappen is much better but it's also Verstappen. Probably many teammates won't look competitive against Max.
And I'm not even sure if Riccardo will be much better. Against Lando Norris in McLaren, Riccardo was very weak and it's quite possible he'll be weak at RedBull as well. If so, RedBull would look like clowns.
Perez at RedBull is still a good deal for everyone. Perez is still second in terms of collected points, has done a good job to help Verstappen to become champion against Hamilton and Verstappen is happy to keep him as a teammate.

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September 01, 2023, 10:20:05 AM
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As far as I know Red Bull boss Christian Horner has already announced their next season drivers as Verstappen and Perez. But even if this is true we are talking about Formula 1 where everything can change anytime.  Smiley  As a result Perez needs to maintain a good work by being on podium as much as possible.

As long as he stays in second place of the driver standings there shouldn't be any issue. However if he loses his place at the end of the season Horner might change his mind about Perez.

In this case Ricciardo might be in the spotlight for Red Bull again.

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September 01, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
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For Perez it will be probably his last season at RBR.

It is not just a case they give to Riccardo a seat into Alpha Tauri...
Perez at RedBull is still a good deal for everyone. Perez is still second in terms of collected points, has done a good job to help Verstappen to become champion against Hamilton and Verstappen is happy to keep him as a teammate.

I also don't find Perez's performance good enough. However I don't understand why Red Bull are looking for a driver in his place. He is at the 2nd place in the championship now. I think a driver who can compete with Max would absolutely harm the team. Besides we need to accept that Red Bull don't act fairly to these two drivers. As a matter of fact I think the cars of these two drivers are seriously different.

I know it's easy for us all to judge Perez like we do in football but that is kinda the truth for him and I'm sure even he knows it, that he has underachieved but at the same time perfectly fulfilled the role of #2, with exception of points gained.

I guess RB feel they can do even better OR like me they believe Max is at peak performance that cannot sustain into next seasons and they want a teammate who can push Max even more. But there is no such guy Smiley

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September 01, 2023, 11:24:19 AM
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As far as I know Red Bull boss Christian Horner has already announced their next season drivers as Verstappen and Perez. But even if this is true we are talking about Formula 1 where everything can change anytime.  Smiley  As a result Perez needs to maintain a good work by being on podium as much as possible.

As long as he stays in second place of the driver standings there shouldn't be any issue. However if he loses his place at the end of the season Horner might change his mind about Perez.

In this case Ricciardo might be in the spotlight for Red Bull again.

They won't replace Perez anytime soon. Why ? well , the same story was with Bottas every year , and he still managed to stay for 6 years with Mercedes knowing well that he won't fight for championship as long as Lewis was there and now , same story is repeating itself on Redbull but this time with Perez. Maybe....if RedBull won't have a decent car next year , I'm sure they will replace Perez but as long as the car works and Max is winning races and championships , nothing will be changed. Cool

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September 01, 2023, 01:40:23 PM
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As far as I know Red Bull boss Christian Horner has already announced their next season drivers as Verstappen and Perez. But even if this is true we are talking about Formula 1 where everything can change anytime.  Smiley  As a result Perez needs to maintain a good work by being on podium as much as possible.

As long as he stays in second place of the driver standings there shouldn't be any issue. However if he loses his place at the end of the season Horner might change his mind about Perez.

In this case Ricciardo might be in the spotlight for Red Bull again.

They won't replace Perez anytime soon. Why ? well , the same story was with Bottas every year , and he still managed to stay for 6 years with Mercedes knowing well that he won't fight for championship as long as Lewis was there and now , same story is repeating itself on Redbull but this time with Perez. Maybe....if RedBull won't have a decent car next year , I'm sure they will replace Perez but as long as the car works and Max is winning races and championships , nothing will be changed. Cool

I think that should be exactly the opposite.As long as Max is winning races they can replace Perez with another driver,I am not saying a top driver as Redbull management would not want that but with a better performing driver than Perez.There are tons of them available now with most notorious at this point being ex Redbull driver Albon,he is doing wonders with Williams and he should be given another chance at Redbull,when he was there the first time he clearly lacked the experience and now I think he is much more mature able to maybe even put up a fight to Max.I am sure that Redbull knows well what to do with Perez,we are only assuming here.

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September 01, 2023, 07:51:15 PM
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Actually, Ferrari is very fast in timers here.

Have they boosted their engine at the maximum in their home race with the risk of breaking it or taking a penalty or the next GPS?

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September 01, 2023, 08:17:37 PM
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Actually, Ferrari is very fast in timers here.

Have they boosted their engine at the maximum in their home race with the risk of breaking it or taking a penalty or the next GPS?

probably.

That would not be smart at all but I agree since they have got nothing to lose anyway and in front of their home fans they want something to show them,a victory would be a huge achievement for them.I highly doubt it though as the Honda engine in a track like this full of straights,big straights will absolutely make a difference and I don't think the free practices show the true performances of the cars.For me only the official qualifying tomorrow will show it and in the race anyway we know that Redbull still have the best race pace especially in track like this one.

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It looks like there will always be rumours for Perez's seat. For example I have seen news such as Verstappen is leaning towards having Norris as his teammate. It doesn't make sense to me when I look at this situation from Red Bull's point of view. They want to have a dominant champion like Verstappen. They don't want a very competitive second driver who can make difficulties for Verstappen. Norris is exactly the definition of a competitive driver as you know.  Grin

Verstappen and Norris are really good friends now. But the team need to think of their main strategies first.

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Fantastic lap from Sainz and generally an impressive performance from Ferrari. After a long time of bad results is position 1 for Sainz and position 3 for Leclerc very deserved in my opinion.
Ferrari was very fast on one lap and Verstappen couldn't beat it.

Have they boosted their engine at the maximum in their home race with the risk of breaking it or taking a penalty or the next GPS?
Probably not because Ferrari has performed very well on fast tracks with long straights like Azerbaijan, where Leclerc took pole.
So, I believe it's a genuine achievement from Ferrari but it will be difficult to maintain during race. Ferrari is usually fast on one lap but tire management will be worse compared to RedBull, where Ferrari is estimated to have a hard time to keep RedBull behind.
Of course, a podium position is possible for Ferrari here. Always considering Ferrari won't do a bad strategy call.  Cheesy

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It looks like there will always be rumours for Perez's seat. For example I have seen news such as Verstappen is leaning towards having Norris as his teammate. It doesn't make sense to me when I look at this situation from Red Bull's point of view. They want to have a dominant champion like Verstappen. They don't want a very competitive second driver who can make difficulties for Verstappen. Norris is exactly the definition of a competitive driver as you know.  Grin

Verstappen and Norris are really good friends now. But the team need to think of their main strategies first.

Meanwhile Perez is confirmed for 2024 and the top teams have all confirmed their driver line up which will be the same as this year for them,only average and slow teams have not yet come up with 100% of their line up for next season.

For today well done to Carlos Sainz and well done to all in the pool who have put him in the winner seat of the qualifying,Ferrari looked to have upped their game a bit yet I am not convinced they will continue with this performance during tomorrow race in which I predict an easy win for Redbull.

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I was thinking that Ferrari would take pole position today. However I picked the wrong driver. I picked Leclerc as he was more successful in qualifying sessions in general. However Sainz really maintained his great performance in FP sessions in the qualifying as well. He took pole position by only a gap like 0.013s. Verstappen must be really frustrated.

Ferrari drivers both did a great job in the qualifying actually. But the most important thing is to maintain this look in the race as well. I'm afraid it is really difficult to trust Ferrari crew now but let's see.

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I was thinking that Ferrari would take pole position today. However I picked the wrong driver. I picked Leclerc as he was more successful in qualifying sessions in general. However Sainz really maintained his great performance in FP sessions in the qualifying as well. He took pole position by only a gap like 0.013s. Verstappen must be really frustrated.

Ferrari drivers both did a great job in the qualifying actually. But the most important thing is to maintain this look in the race as well. I'm afraid it is really difficult to trust Ferrari crew now but let's see.

I see no reason why Verstappen should be frustrated,just because he lost the pole position does not mean that he will lose the race too.He of course I believe to have the maturity to not screw up in the first corner and if he maintains his calm through the first corner here most probably will get an easy win.

I know the distance is very small in a single lap like you say at 0.013s but in the race distance I am pretty sure Redbull is a better car and of course a much much better team when it comes to pit stops while for Ferrari I have a lot of doubts that they will not screw up their drivers race tomorrow with wrong strategies.

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September 02, 2023, 09:05:55 PM
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I know the distance is very small in a single lap like you say at 0.013s but in the race distance I am pretty sure Redbull is a better car and of course a much much better team when it comes to pit stops while for Ferrari I have a lot of doubts that they will not screw up their drivers race tomorrow with wrong strategies.
Most likely you are right here and Verstappen will have many good opportunities to pass Sainz.
Even Perez can still get 2nd place.
On track, RedBull should be better in saving tires and like you've said, strategy in a close race matters.
Even if Verstappen can't pass Sainz on track but follows him closely, RedBull could try to do an undercut and get Verstappen ahead. Considering RedBull's very fast pit stops (and Ferrari's slow pit stops  Cheesy), Verstappen has a good chance to pass Sainz during pit stops, even if Verstappen can't overtake him on track.
Of course, start is also a key issue.

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The tire management of RBR is better, Verstappen will be an easy race unless some hazard happens.

I can't see how he can lose, remember also under DRS the RBR is the best car and on Monza DRS is huge.

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The tire management of RBR is better, Verstappen will be an easy race unless some hazard happens.

I can't see how he can lose, remember also under DRS the RBR is the best car and on Monza DRS is huge.

Yep , correct + Ferrari not having a good race pace with current car so I think Verstappen will easily take the W tomorrow as well. However, we might have a great battle for second and 3rd place as Ferrari might snatch a 2-3 podium if somehow their strategists won't ruin the race  Grin Grin

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