🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2024 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread

[swogerino]

I might make risky choices in the last 3 weeks for this reason. For example for pole position.

I see you didn't take the risk after all, and it was the right call. Pole, fastest, all seem safely secured for the Dutchman. We funnily have 8th and 9th the same but no Stroll.

Yeah I couldn't do it for pole position.    Because it is really difficult to steal a pole position from Verstappen this season. Leclerc did it in Mexico maybe but it was due to a bad last sector by Verstappen on his last try.

By the way we have left the sprint race behind as well. Verstappen won the race which wasn't a surprise. However Norris' pace really impressed me. His start was also effective. These all make think about what he can do in the race tomorrow. If he keeps up this pace he can be one of the biggest candidates for podium. Perez and Hamilton changed roles about performance as well. I wasn't expecting that after watching the recent races.

Yeah it was nice pace from Norris which was less than 4 seconds in gap to Verstappen this time for 24 laps which in the race is a doable thing to have a go and try to undercut by going first in the box most likely if there is not that real traffic and in this track I think traffic when drivers come out of the box won't be a problem as this is a super fast track and a short one.

I think I was lucky to put my picks 18 minutes before the qualifying started this time as I misjudged the starting time of official qualifying which was 19 PM in Europe time and I thought it was 20 PM,so lucky 2 EBP points and one for the pole of Verstappen,it is always nice to start the race with 3 points already in your pocket  .

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Yeah it was nice pace from Norris which was less than 4 seconds in gap to Verstappen this time for 24 laps which in the race is a doable thing to have a go and try to undercut by going first in the box most likely if there is not that real traffic and in this track I think traffic when drivers come out of the box won't be a problem as this is a super fast track and a short one.

I think I was lucky to put my picks 18 minutes before the qualifying started this time as I misjudged the starting time of official qualifying which was 19 PM in Europe time and I thought it was 20 PM,so lucky 2 EBP points and one for the pole of Verstappen,it is always nice to start the race with 3 points already in your pocket  .

Even Max was managing the tyres.

When he pushed he was gaining half of a second per lap.
IF nothing happens there will be no competition for the win.

[swogerino]

Yeah it was nice pace from Norris which was less than 4 seconds in gap to Verstappen this time for 24 laps which in the race is a doable thing to have a go and try to undercut by going first in the box most likely if there is not that real traffic and in this track I think traffic when drivers come out of the box won't be a problem as this is a super fast track and a short one.

I think I was lucky to put my picks 18 minutes before the qualifying started this time as I misjudged the starting time of official qualifying which was 19 PM in Europe time and I thought it was 20 PM,so lucky 2 EBP points and one for the pole of Verstappen,it is always nice to start the race with 3 points already in your pocket  .

Even Max was managing the tyres.

When he pushed he was gaining half of a second per lap.
IF nothing happens there will be no competition for the win.

I doubt nothing will happen considering the weather conditions were not stable at all yesterday and I doubt that have changed in less than 24 hours.So I am expecting a good race which hopefully will start and not risk to see a SPA of 2021 which happened only 2 laps and the race was considered done after the fans waited there for more than six hours to see that race and that was a big disappointment for them,I hope this will not happen here.

Yet I am hoping some light rain to medium rain accompanies the race,the whole race would be wonderful as this would make us see which driver is the best under such conditions and maybe we will see another different winner for this race.

[Koal-84]

Ricciardo is set to replace Perez, most likely.
Not just after Ricciardo's recent performance in Mexico. And how Perez crashed out, once again, of course...

A solid second driver is exactly what RedBull wants and Perez did a good job in 2021, most of 2022 and start of 2023.
But his recent performance is just awful.

Ricciardo currently looks like he's exactly what RedBull wants: a solid second driver to finish on podium regularly, to get a safe constructor championsship for RedBull, to get 2nd place in WDC for Ricciardo and to help Max like Perez did in 2021.

Riccardo is definitely the right driver in terms of performance, but shouldn't Red Bull also focus on the time after Verstappen? Maybe Max also wants to win the world championship with Ferrari? Alpha Tauri would be good for that, but unfortunately I don't see anyone there to replace Perez.

As for the race itself, Ferrari denied Leclerc the chance to get a good position, Norris and especially Alonso both had a very good race and the battle between Alonso and Perez was really exciting at the end.

[buwaytress]

Well, well, well, what a turn of events. So Stroll did actually make the most of his starting position, but I'm glad I left my picks untouched. With 2 races left and somehow managing to creep into 6th spot, all I need to do now is ensure I keep as consistent as possible, pick the safe bets, and likely walk away with a prize this season.

I know it's not much of a difference 6th and 10th but 7th gives me a wee bit more breathing space. Maybe even an eye on 5th? Haha

[CLS63]

Yeah it was a really interesting weekend. It was very unlucky for Leclerc. Because he was out in formation lap already. He lost power and found himself in the barrier after that. Ferrari must even be very surprised about how Leclerc still wants to stay there longer.

Alonso and Perez made us watch an amazing competition after a lasting boring race mostly. They were side by side while getting past the finish line. I wish Perez made it to podium as I picked him for that. 

By the way Norris was really impressive. Despite the data related to race simulation pace shows McLaren as the 4th fastest it looks like the characteristics of this track was quite fitting for them.

[jeremypwr]

In case you're wondering why there isn't a Las Vegas GP Challenge, we're still waiting for the odds provider to release odds 
Verstappen currently 1.29 on the inaugural Las Vegas track. 

[1miau]

In case you're wondering why there isn't a Las Vegas GP Challenge, we're still waiting for the odds provider to release odds 
Verstappen currently 1.29 on the inaugural Las Vegas track. 

From our last rounds, it seems like odds are only coming up the week when the race is happening.
Las Vegas Grand Prix is still almost 2 weeks to go, so odds will come up next Monday, most likely.


Las Vegas will be an interesting race so far and while it's only 2 races to go, where Max is having his title already, at least Perez will be forced to push in case he wants to have a decent shot for a seat next year. It's know that RedBull will replace him, should Perez continue to struggle.
I can imagine, he'll do very well here. It's a street race, where Perez has done well, overally and his career is at stake, so he needs to show a good race.
Probably, Leclerc might be forced to take an engine penalty, if his engine is really damaged from Brazil's race, where he had a DNF on his formation lap. But no confirmation yet.

[jeremypwr]

From our last rounds, it seems like odds are only coming up the week when the race is happening.
Las Vegas Grand Prix is still almost 2 weeks to go, so odds will come up next Monday, most likely.

I'm looking forward to it so much I thought it was this week  

[CLS63]

Las Vegas will be an interesting race so far and while it's only 2 races to go, where Max is having his title already, at least Perez will be forced to push in case he wants to have a decent shot for a seat next year. It's know that RedBull will replace him, should Perez continue to struggle.
I can imagine, he'll do very well here. It's a street race, where Perez has done well, overally and his career is at stake, so he needs to show a good race.
Probably, Leclerc might be forced to take an engine penalty, if his engine is really damaged from Brazil's race, where he had a DNF on his formation lap. But no confirmation yet.

The last F1 races held in Las Vegas was in 1982 if I'm not wrong. It is going to be the first time since then so it is quite exciting to have a different track in the calendar. 

Perez is really disappointing these days. He wasn't like this at the beginning of the season. He got really good results until a point. But after that point something happened and he started to lose his concentration. He isn't a driver who makes simple mistakes very often normally. I remember how great he was in the 2021 season for example. Especially his defending against Hamilton in the Abu Dhabi GP was amazing.    I don't know what Red Bull are planning now. Maybe they might even decide to continue with him as Verstappen is easily carrying them to the title.

[tokeweed]

^  You mean overall this whole season he's been disappointing...  I think the last race was his highlight for the whole season.  Lol.  But yeah, the question is if he could still redeem himself next season as Red Bull could have already earmarked a guy to replace him after his contract with the team ends.  As for who the replacement is, dunno...  But I'm hoping it's Daniel Ricciardo.  On his good days, he's way better than Perez imho.

Anyway, from a betting perspective...  Nada.  Verstappen at 1.29.  Not much meat on the bone imho.  But it could be a volatile race as this setmof drivers haven't raced in Vegas before.

What car is fastest on the straights?

[swogerino]

^  You mean overall this whole season he's been disappointing...  I think the last race was his highlight for the whole season.  Lol.  But yeah, the question is if he could still redeem himself next season as Red Bull could have already earmarked a guy to replace him after his contract with the team ends.  As for who the replacement is, dunno...  But I'm hoping it's Daniel Ricciardo.  On his good days, he's way better than Perez imho.

Anyway, from a betting perspective...  Nada.  Verstappen at 1.29.  Not much meat on the bone imho.  But it could be a volatile race as this setmof drivers haven't raced in Vegas before.

What car is fastest on the straights?

You even ask what car is the fastest in straights?It is the Redbull in normal conditions and we have seen that in Monza it was Ferrari as they had setup the car with a lot of top speed,in Vegas though it would be a wrong thing to do as beside the straights there are also different difficult curves here.

I think Verstappen at 1.29 is still a good bet as under normal conditions we all know that he is going to win,one thing is sure though this is going to be undoubtedly the best race of the whole season,it is going to be huge.

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Las Vegas according to the prediction will be a very fast track with a median of over 200km/h.

The top speed should be around 350km/h so we need to see what cars went fast in Monza and Spa I guess

[jeremypwr]

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[CLS63]

^  You mean overall this whole season he's been disappointing...  I think the last race was his highlight for the whole season.  Lol.  But yeah, the question is if he could still redeem himself next season as Red Bull could have already earmarked a guy to replace him after his contract with the team ends.  As for who the replacement is, dunno...  But I'm hoping it's Daniel Ricciardo.  On his good days, he's way better than Perez imho.

Anyway, from a betting perspective...  Nada.  Verstappen at 1.29.  Not much meat on the bone imho.  But it could be a volatile race as this setmof drivers haven't raced in Vegas before.

What car is fastest on the straights?

If Red Bull decide to replace Perez then their choice would be a similar driver who won't make serious problems for Verstappen. Ricciardo would absolutely be a good candidate for that. If we had the old version of Ricciardo then I would have said the opposite. Because he was so ambitious which even caused some really bad crashes between him and Verstappen.

When it comes to what car is fastest on straights I can say it is Red Bull now. Once upon a time it was Ferrari.    However now they just can't get ahead of Red Bull about that either.

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2023 F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Free Practice Results (2)
Pos    Driver    Nat.   Team    Time
1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m35.265s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m35.782s
3   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m35.793s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m36.085s
5   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m36.129s
6   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m36.183s
7   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m36.489s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m36.496s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m36.663s
10   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m36.688s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m36.864s
12   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m36.890s
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m36.917s
14   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m36.987s
15   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m37.134s
16   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m37.241s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m37.412s
18   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m37.656s
19   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m37.680s
20   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m38.140s

Results of Friday.

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1040958/1/f1-las-vegas-grand-prix-2023-friday-practice-results


Keep in mind the timers predicted from Pirelli is 1.32 so it will be a long way for the real timer.

[1miau]

When it comes to what car is fastest on straights I can say it is Red Bull now.

Yes, I've expected RedBull to be ahead, in front of Ferrari here a bit as well but turned out that RedBull really struggled today and Ferrari had a great FP2.
I got Ferrari winning the qualification at 4.40 before free practice but unfortunately, Verstappen ruined it, when he only got 4th place in FP1, where practice was cancelled after Sainz had an accident due to a badly prepared track.



Still, Ferrari is looking fast and Leclerc could take pole later, so maybe we'll get a Leclerc pole and a Verstappen win again. 
Sainz will get a grid penalty but Ferrari is looking fast, so I believe this seems to be a great value bet:




And only 2 rounds to go, so make sure to enter your predictions on Superbru. It's still very close.

[CLS63]

The qualifying session was literally dominated by Ferrari!  Leclerc's winning pole position helped me get advantageous as well.    Ferrari were already really fast on straights. This was a fact that I knew. They have mostly been better in one-lap performance rather than racing pace. We saw another example of this today. I assume that Red Bull didn't want to use fresh tyres for Verstappen to go hard for pole position.

This was why he was really slow in his last attempt in Q3. Ferrari drivers did a great job today but Sainz has a grid penalty of 10 places I'm afraid. If his racing pace is strong then he can still manage to climb places of course. McLarens were a big failure by not even qualifying for Q2. 

[tokeweed]

^  You mean overall this whole season he's been disappointing...  I think the last race was his highlight for the whole season.  Lol.  But yeah, the question is if he could still redeem himself next season as Red Bull could have already earmarked a guy to replace him after his contract with the team ends.  As for who the replacement is, dunno...  But I'm hoping it's Daniel Ricciardo.  On his good days, he's way better than Perez imho.

Anyway, from a betting perspective...  Nada.  Verstappen at 1.29.  Not much meat on the bone imho.  But it could be a volatile race as this setmof drivers haven't raced in Vegas before.

What car is fastest on the straights?

You even ask what car is the fastest in straights?It is the Redbull in normal conditions and we have seen that in Monza it was Ferrari as they had setup the car with a lot of top speed,in Vegas though it would be a wrong thing to do as beside the straights there are also different difficult curves here.

I think Verstappen at 1.29 is still a good bet as under normal conditions we all know that he is going to win,one thing is sure though this is going to be undoubtedly the best race of the whole season,it is going to be huge.

Looks like it isn't RBR for the weekend.  Ferrari has been the fastest for most of the weekend except FP3.  And Verstappen's line is now at 1.40 - 1.45 depending on what book you look at.  Still the guy most likely to win according to the books but if Leclerc keeps calm and the team gives him a good game plan, he could end up winning it imho.

And I've always thought Ferrari and Merc were slightly faster on the straights due to their PU and Red Bull faster on the turns due to the Newey factor and better aerodynamics.

[Koal-84]

The qualifying session was literally dominated by Ferrari!  Leclerc's winning pole position helped me get advantageous as well. 

Correct, Ferrari have dominated in Las Vegas so far this weekend, but the big question is can they translate it into the race, especially in terms of maturity, strategy and holding the car?

In any case, I was lucky once at Superbru and put Leclerc on pole position, it will be interesting to see if he can do the same in the race, Max will certainly try to win the first race in Las Vegas.