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July 13, 2023, 11:39:31 PM
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Yes, you mean the AI training, so many times the AI can become a very good weapon for hackers because the AI can do tasks that hackers did manually, on the other hand, an AI can break codes. and show great expertise for them, sometimes it may make it imperceptible to the security systems of a platform, casino, or whatever, an AI can do something like that, but from there it develops as a tool to defeat the casinos, not yet, I say yet because I know that if they can have the ability to do it, but at the moment it is in development, the AI can be given as a secondary help tool. but not as something that can be determinative.
The development of AI hasn't reached that stage yet, but slowly the developers will develop AI to that stage. AI is intended to help human activities that might happen in the future or in a few years. And suppose it is implemented in the gambling business. In that case, it will make gamblers even more interested in using it because it is possible to get a way to win that gamblers have not found so far through manual methods. And hacking using AI hasn't reached that stage yet, and hackers are still using manual or semi-automatic methods.
AI could, theoretically, assist in predicting gambling outcomes more accurately; however, it could also be manipulated for unfair advantage. Imagine, for instance, the use of AI to create "super gamblers," capable of exploiting the system and disrupting the element of fair play inherent to gambling. This, consequently, could lead to a skewed and unstable betting environment.

As for your point on hacking, it's noteworthy. The advancement of AI might indeed revolutionize this field as well. But let's not overlook the cyber-security implications. As AI evolves, so must our security measures. Indeed, as we tread into this new era, a semi-automatic, or even "manual," approach to hacking may soon seem antiquated compared to AI-driven hacking methods.
Yes, in fact this would become a great AI war, I couldn't see it any other way, of course, here all the sense of the game escapes its essence, betting would not be the same, it is something that could happen and it is Sad, it's such a thing when, for example, I go to one of the platforms where I play chess online and I think I'm playing with a real human person, and it turns out to be an AI, then of course I beat it easily, I don't see life , so it's very difficult to play against an AI, because they obviously know more than us and have all the new abilities.

We as players have many things to review, improve technique, improve some game indices, study more, this is what we as players always try to improve, I believe that in game strategies, in casinos the same, I think that in dice strategies, I say that at some point one of those techniques works, not all the time, but it does.

I have rarely had to face an AI, usually it is when it comes to chess, at first it is played normally but after it is playing you see the porunity with which a person plays, and it is clearly seen that it is an AI , in these games an AI is made and sometimes it is difficult to detect, but in any casino game it is easier, perhaps because of the speed at which it is played.

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July 13, 2023, 11:57:52 PM
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Anything which changes the common mans situation changes the world.    All I see for AI in its current iteration is transformative in the ease of use and accessibility vs time and skill required to use that AI.    Also availability is much higher nowadays, go back to start of this century and quite a few people didnt even own a computer its expensive and they dont need it so they didnt.   Now people all have these smart phones so in turn they do in fact own a fairly high amount of utility just in their everyday immediate reach hence AI is now ready to change the world in large noticeable ways.
  The AI itself imo isnt amazing, can chill on the taking over the world scenario its still just a combo of list based  responses with linguistic matching to a search engine & its not massive in being able to learn or self advance so not true AI is my take.   The answer to the OP is ease of use and availability in this particular game, I dont see its a thing quite yet and the gains in usage are capped anyway.

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With the statement above you, only means that with the right information AI can beat anyone as it can be possible as programs can be develop in terms of additional information that being supply to update the knowledge and to adopt to any changes, though in game like pokers where there are strategy which human knowledge can only adjust in an actual game time, I see a big differnce in a possible outcome.

But I don't see any problem if AI system will learn a lot and make more winning sessions, as time pass and the learning process
can be done in updating AI system.

There is no doubt that it will be something like this , playing Poker for any AI is something Super easy and also very easy for an AI to win, despite the fact that now they are developing so many things so that poker is almost like a sport I think that the AI, with the different points of view of some programmers regarding the algorithms, can do Incredible things, perfection algorithms for these Programs is a Solution and if, when the whole game is perfected, it has to be integrated into the game Casino and that is where the problem is, and here in the future this will be a minor problem, it will already be a matter of moving something in the programming and be completely good, ready to destroy any type of tournaments , generally people That they use it will be a great fight between AI , what will Remain for us as humans will be to Be a spectator.

Isnt it enthralling to contemplate the future landscape of poker in the scenario you've proposed? With AI rapidly evolving, its footprint in strategic contests like poker is growing noticeably. The competency of AI in such games relies heavily on the crafting of potent algorithms by expert programmers. They could potentially morph into impeccable poker maestros, outshining even the most skilled human players.

Nonetheless, the thought of infusing such advanced AI into casino games sparks an array of ethical considerations. Could it jeopardize the inherent element of unpredictability, which lies at the heart of poker's charm? Could it lead to human participation becoming superfluous? In the times ahead, as you've inferred, there may be programming modifications enabling AIs to perfectly fit into these games, converting poker tournaments into AI gladiator arenas. It'll be a fascinating spectacle for us to behold, but will it hold onto the quintessence of the game?

As time goes by, if things get out of control by the use of AI, everything that is the essence of poker and any game will lose its essence, it will become an AI war, I don't know to what extent this is Well, because the participation of all humans will be null or low because with a super developed AI it will not make any sense that as human beings we beat them, it is something like what you see in some movies, where everything becomes robot style and a great AI that manages everything, for me it is not going to return like this, but there is a great trend towards it.

Casinos will always have the closest to best security options, but right now I know that an AI is being developed, if trained for them, to be able to defeat a system.

Now the AI has data that it saves through the web, there is the option of having many errors, in fact they still have them, to be clearer, the most impressive robots that have been able to launch, draw, do whatever they are asked to do They solve any type of mathematical problem, but they are also very limited, certain algorithms are being developed for the robot to learn, but I think that in order to have good results, after 1 more years things will be much better and good for any system, I don't think it's to beat a casino, but so that they can make profits little by little.


A battle of AI system, knowing that business is a business and the casino owners always have that upper edge since they've got the capital to invest in protecting their business, though we can't conclude how far AI may developed and what the system can offer to every players and casino owners, and like what you mentioned,

time may come that it might be a battle in between AIs from the house and the other players who manage to learn more onsetting their system and create the adjustments that they think will give them some good edge when they are playing the game.

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People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.
Yes, that will happen in the future because, with the development of AI, it can help almost all human needs and work. It is only a matter of time until AI technology can reach the stage humans desire so that AI can assist human activities in various aspects. But I think that in the future, this AI will be able to run independently without being controlled by humans so that artificial intelligence can develop simultaneously. I'm just a little worried that AI can have its own will later, like what we see in these fictional films, because AI might colonize humans.

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July 14, 2023, 07:56:43 PM
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People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.
Yes, that will happen in the future because, with the development of AI, it can help almost all human needs and work. It is only a matter of time until AI technology can reach the stage humans desire so that AI can assist human activities in various aspects. But I think that in the future, this AI will be able to run independently without being controlled by humans so that artificial intelligence can develop simultaneously. I'm just a little worried that AI can have its own will later, like what we see in these fictional films, because AI might colonize humans.
Artificial intelligence has no will of its own, it only performs tasks and makes decisions based on its code. I think that artificial intelligence cannot have its own will because it is limited by a code that is designed and controlled by humans, it has no consciousness or emotion like humans.

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July 14, 2023, 08:12:41 PM
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People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.
Yes, that will happen in the future because, with the development of AI, it can help almost all human needs and work. It is only a matter of time until AI technology can reach the stage humans desire so that AI can assist human activities in various aspects. But I think that in the future, this AI will be able to run independently without being controlled by humans so that artificial intelligence can develop simultaneously. I'm just a little worried that AI can have its own will later, like what we see in these fictional films, because AI might colonize humans.
You are day dreaming my friend, please wake up, what you see in the movie is in the movie, it will never be possible that a time wil come when Ai can run independently without being controlled by humans, did you even think before saying this thing you said? Grin

Ai can become really advanced in the future, that very find and believable, but Ai can never operate independently, why?
1. Because Ai can not power themselves, they will need power to run, and only humans can give them that..
2. They must at some point break down, and they can not fix themselves, human will still have to fix them,

I can give you tons of reasons, but one message I leave you with is that, if we ever arrive at a stage where Ai colonize humans, just know that the world has come to an end my friend.

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July 15, 2023, 05:13:52 AM
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Artificial intelligence has no will of its own, it only performs tasks and makes decisions based on its code. I think that artificial intelligence cannot have its own will because it is limited by a code that is designed and controlled by humans, it has no consciousness or emotion like humans.
Hopefully, it will be like that later because we humans seem never satisfied with creating something we want, so we humans will continue to research until we get what we want. We also don't know what the future of artificial intelligence will look like; we only know that it will help our everyday lives.

You are day dreaming my friend, please wake up, what you see in the movie is in the movie, it will never be possible that a time wil come when Ai can run independently without being controlled by humans, did you even think before saying this thing you said? Grin

Ai can become really advanced in the future, that very find and believable, but Ai can never operate independently, why?
1. Because Ai can not power themselves, they will need power to run, and only humans can give them that..
2. They must at some point break down, and they can not fix themselves, human will still have to fix them,

I can give you tons of reasons, but one message I leave you with is that, if we ever arrive at a stage where Ai colonize humans, just know that the world has come to an end my friend.
I just thought that something like that could happen in the future, which we would never imagine would happen. This is like the discovery of various things that did not exist in their time so when they were discovered early, many people would be skeptical and doubt it. But time will tell.

We can say that AI cannot be what we say it will be. But the truth is we also don't know what the future of AI will be. So I think it's natural for you to say something like that. And maybe we won't see how AI develops in the future.

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July 15, 2023, 09:17:07 AM
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Now the question of how to somehow limit the use of AI in the gambling business is becoming more and more relevant.  Indeed, the game becomes completely uninteresting if you know or even just guess that your opponents use at least even partially and quite a lot the help of AI.  I think that almost all casino managers are now puzzled by the problem with AI and how to ensure that players that their opponents are people.  But, I must also note that the fascination and admiration for the possibilities of AI, which we have all observed over the past few years, is gradually fading.  So it seems to me.  
And humanity is finally becoming more pragmatic in this matter and began to try to assign AI only to that niche of people's life where AI really helps a person.  
But in the gambling industry, it only harms.  And I think this will be taken into account in the future.  And AI will only partially be used in the gambling industry.  For example, to calculate multi-accounts or any control procedures in financial flows and similar cases.  But not the direct participation of AI in games where the rivals are exclusively people.

The main Aim of AI (Artificial Intelligence) was to enhance problem solving and decision making however in gambling it could help in solving issues like encouraging safe gambling at online casinos, and helping to create more and better gambling experience, however most individuals have taken it upon themselves to use it as means of cheating and gaining an upper hands against their opponet, which had made most people doubt the good benefits of it's purpose due to the partial use of it thereby making the gambling system uninteresting.

 However most gambling sites like I have stated in my previous post are aware of this unfair act and are carrying out drastic measures to make sure the use of AI doesn't not ruin the gambling system, they've created strategic means with the help of AI as well to prevent fraudulent activities, thereby coming up with intelligent softwares  that would track gamblers using unfair means and make it free and square for everyone to bet safely. That's why the KYC system is very important so casino could easily find out the identity of gamblers using AI for fraudulent act and get them punished.
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July 15, 2023, 05:04:49 PM
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People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.
Yes, that will happen in the future because, with the development of AI, it can help almost all human needs and work. It is only a matter of time until AI technology can reach the stage humans desire so that AI can assist human activities in various aspects. But I think that in the future, this AI will be able to run independently without being controlled by humans so that artificial intelligence can develop simultaneously. I'm just a little worried that AI can have its own will later, like what we see in these fictional films, because AI might colonize humans.
Artificial intelligence has no will of its own, it only performs tasks and makes decisions based on its code. I think that artificial intelligence cannot have its own will because it is limited by a code that is designed and controlled by humans, it has no consciousness or emotion like humans.

It's true that Artificial Intelligence has no will of its own, but the programmer codes it in a way that it gets its own neurons in the form of code. The AI is also a piece of software, but over time its tries like humans and learns many patterns of a game or any other task, and if the programmer has implemented reinforce learning into it then it will also learn the things by rewarding or punishing itself. In that sense it learns the things better than most humans, and another best thing about it is that it doesn't take a lot of time to recreate that responses which it has learned.

Although, all of the AI software is limited by code, but it still learns way more things then the code allows it. It learns from datasets or real-time learning with the help of training that takes some time for completion. It's a useful thing, but if someone misuses it then it could lead to spamming and many other negative things.

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July 15, 2023, 05:25:19 PM
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Casino is effected if people use bots, it discourages growth in the player base.  Same thing occurs quite often in competitive chess playing sites and its a bannable offence they look out for due to this negative effect it had.   We can all just have robots battling everything for us meanwhile we wont have a clue how to play properly or gain anything from the game as its all being done for us, quite sad if that ever occurs.
   Its not especially theoretical, computers are already used to cheat in quite a few games as they are obviously faster and able to recall massive amounts of information easily so its an easy step up for any beginner even advanced player.   
They won't just be affected but they will be greatly affected and there will be a lot of banning and restrictions being put on different accounts only because they were caught using bots or AIs to gamble against humans, casinos will definitely find a way to fight against such things that's for sure but this all will make gambling not very interesting because everyone will have a doubt in their minds that there will be cheaters using bots or AIs to win against them.

However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

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July 15, 2023, 06:03:36 PM
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People are slowly starting to rely heavily on technology. In the coming days, this human-made AI will help him in almost every level. But we may all agree that since humans created AI, no AI can surpass its intelligence. If there is a competition, it must be between AI and AI. With the passage of time, AI has undergone major changes. What we have to accept is that no matter how powerful AI is, it is controlled by humans. Moreover, this AI is also made differently for the benefit of different tasks of people. As people's thinking power is developing, technology is also improving. Many of the imaginary scenes we see in movies today will be implemented by AI in the future.
Yes, that will happen in the future because, with the development of AI, it can help almost all human needs and work. It is only a matter of time until AI technology can reach the stage humans desire so that AI can assist human activities in various aspects. But I think that in the future, this AI will be able to run independently without being controlled by humans so that artificial intelligence can develop simultaneously. I'm just a little worried that AI can have its own will later, like what we see in these fictional films, because AI might colonize humans.
You are day dreaming my friend, please wake up, what you see in the movie is in the movie, it will never be possible that a time wil come when Ai can run independently without being controlled by humans, did you even think before saying this thing you said? Grin

Ai can become really advanced in the future, that very find and believable, but Ai can never operate independently, why?
1. Because Ai can not power themselves, they will need power to run, and only humans can give them that..
2. They must at some point break down, and they can not fix themselves, human will still have to fix them,

I can give you tons of reasons, but one message I leave you with is that, if we ever arrive at a stage where Ai colonize humans, just know that the world has come to an end my friend.
We're thinking about the "technological singularity," which is when AI reaches a stage where it can rapidly self-improve, leading to AGI and beyond. It's speculative, but not completely implausible.

It's true that artificial intelligence has two basic needs: power and upkeep. Nobody can say for sure, but it's possible that AI could develop novel energy solutions or self-repair processes. The wonder (or fear) of artificial superintelligence is that it may one day outstrip human capability in ways we can't even imagine.

AI settling amongst us? An awful movie plot, if you ask me. But unexpected things often happen in life. For millions of years, the dinosaurs dominated the planet before being overthrown. If this really is the end of the human race, then we've certainly played our part. Potentially, the final act has arrived!


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July 18, 2023, 11:06:02 AM
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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.

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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Even if such an AI is created that becomes very successful in terms of gambling and makes such bets that most of them are continuously winning, then of course the casino owners will defend themselves against such an impact of AI, which in fact simply destroys and destroys their business. 
Simply because in this case, ordinary players, people will lose even much more often and more than now.  I think that business will reach legislative prohibitions of use in such cases.  But how such legislative prohibitioms will already be implemented is just a very important question.  And here, too, they can start organizing "free zones" on some islands, such as Curacao, where this will be allowed.  That's when the confusion and chikharda will begin, which in general can destroy the entire industry.  Or make gambling uninteresting and boring because any person will lose everything in the end. 

But where and to whom AI will give the money won, this is also the second important issue in such a process.  Smiley

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It is likely that the game designers and developers would adapt and evolve the games to maintain their level of challenge and engagement for human players. However Poker is what it is, and it is not going to change that much. AI stands a chance of winning, as the rules are quite precise and always the same. The AI managed to defeat some F-16 Aces when the rules where set and general understanding mattered less.
We cannot deny the fact that AI is a great technology and it will evolve even more in the future, so it's not an arguable thing to say that AI will be able to master the game of Poker if it's trained pretty well and the game stays the same having no changes in rules and stuff, but yet again, if technology can evolve over time, can't the human brain do the same? It does, humans have been evolving as well and we can clearly see that in the world today if we compare it with how the world used to be in the past.
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Here I doubt that the human brain can evolve at the same speed as AI.  Judge for yourself, somewhere 20-30 years ago even talking about AI was some kind of science fiction, and now humanity is already starting to look for ways to protect against
AI since its evolution is proceeding at such a pace that this speed is two orders of magnitude, or even three orders of magnitude.  faster than human development.  Also, it seems to me that the younger generation is getting dumber and dumber with each generation.  This means that progress will likely slow down in the future.  In addition, the evolution of not society as a whole, but the human brain itself in general, is extremely slow, this process is calculated in hundreds and thousands of years at best.  So humanity is potentially losing this race.  And the race in the end comes down to a struggle for power.  Think of the blockbuster The Matrix. 
That's something we can all eventually come to.

I very much agree with what you say, the example of the matrix is very spot on, personally I have always liked all the technological topics and the advances that have been made, but I think that things are quite strong when it comes to AI It is true , we're never going to know more than an AI, and we're never going to be as fast as an AI, unless we're all geniuses and we can have some kind of chance with an AI, when it comes to casinos, gambling, it's always It will happen to us if the AI can make us win, or at least give us some opportunities that can come close to winning.

In probability and statistics it helps us get closer to probable outcomes, and if we go to advanced math where you can do math modeling, we'll probably have more precision, but of course the AI can do it and filter what's the best method because I think that there is a lot of advantage there, this of course also depends on the training of the AI, that's why I say something, in a few years the AI will be one of the biggest competitions to be very careful with the security of the casinos.

In fact, science fiction movies have somehow prepared us for this era, where AI and machines have a lot of power over the human being, in fact there are many advances and we can apply them to any field, obviously here in gambling many focus because it represents money and the money to be won in a casino is what many are looking for, it is not denied, who would not like to win money in a casino? but winning it by your own effort and not by using an AI, because it is partly cheating and also has no merit, at least I see it that way and obviously it takes away all the emotions.

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July 18, 2023, 09:00:15 PM
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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Each limit, be it NL100 or NL500, will have its own database and player styles. Based on the limit chosen and the specific opponent, the AI will apply a winning play style. On the other hand, under the first AI, AI from another company can adapt. This will turn into a "who has the best AI" battle.

The poker room will certainly not suffer losses, as you rightly said. But most real people will not be able to compete with a trained AI who has collected a large database and analyzed it. And I think super-professionals who have been playing for 15 years online or more will be able to deceive and adapt to any AI and beat it.

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July 19, 2023, 05:56:55 AM
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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.
That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Such a thing can only be a threat to a casino if it becomes possible for it to play gambling games and beat the house in that which doesn't sound possible because casino games use random number generators to generate the results of each bet and no matter how advanced an AI model becomes, it can never know in advance what number a RNG will generate next so that it can bet accordingly and win, so even that might be a threat, it isn't possible to happen.

And if we talk about sports betting, even if there is an AI model that researches and analyzes the teams involved in a match and makes the right prediction, the sportsbook will never be affected by that because there will always be some people betting on the other side and they will still get their revenue.

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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Every casino will definitely use the same technology where people might think using AI technology to beat the casino, it's clear the casino will use that too because they will definitely update anything to prevent something that can harm them, especially casinos also don't want gamblers to win against them even though what we know is that the bookies will always win.

I also believe that casinos or gambling platforms will not be easily beaten by AI technology though because basically they will also use the same technology to overcome them and also update their site work systems and games in poker. that's the importance of casinos always update whatever be it their systems or regulations to prevent any cheating by users. This technology is not a threat to the casino.

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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Every casino will definitely use the same technology where people might think using AI technology to beat the casino, it's clear the casino will use that too because they will definitely update anything to prevent something that can harm them, especially casinos also don't want gamblers to win against them even though what we know is that the bookies will always win.
Well, the truth of the matter is that, we still have some casinos that are very honest, and have made so much money that they no longer care whether gamblers beat the house or not, but the thing now is that, even if they want their customers to win more often, its no longer that feasible because their system have already been designed to always have an upper hand over the gambler, and this is not something they can go in and just edit, it might require a total overhaul of the entire system, and even at that, its not recommended as its a big risk on the gambling company and their finances.

The above is just my personal thought though, might be right or wrong.

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July 19, 2023, 08:06:03 AM
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Now the question of how to somehow limit the use of AI in the gambling business is becoming more and more relevant.  Indeed, the game becomes completely uninteresting if you know or even just guess that your opponents use at least even partially and quite a lot the help of AI.  I think that almost all casino managers are now puzzled by the problem with AI and how to ensure that players that their opponents are people.  But, I must also note that the fascination and admiration for the possibilities of AI, which we have all observed over the past few years, is gradually fading.  So it seems to me.  
And humanity is finally becoming more pragmatic in this matter and began to try to assign AI only to that niche of people's life where AI really helps a person.  
But in the gambling industry, it only harms.  And I think this will be taken into account in the future.  And AI will only partially be used in the gambling industry.  For example, to calculate multi-accounts or any control procedures in financial flows and similar cases.  But not the direct participation of AI in games where the rivals are exclusively people.

The main Aim of AI (Artificial Intelligence) was to enhance problem solving and decision making however in gambling it could help in solving issues like encouraging safe gambling at online casinos, and helping to create more and better gambling experience, however most individuals have taken it upon themselves to use it as means of cheating and gaining an upper hands against their opponet, which had made most people doubt the good benefits of it's purpose due to the partial use of it thereby making the gambling system uninteresting.

 However most gambling sites like I have stated in my previous post are aware of this unfair act and are carrying out drastic measures to make sure the use of AI doesn't not ruin the gambling system, they've created strategic means with the help of AI as well to prevent fraudulent activities, thereby coming up with intelligent softwares  that would track gamblers using unfair means and make it free and square for everyone to bet safely. That's why the KYC system is very important so casino could easily find out the identity of gamblers using AI for fraudulent act and get them punished.
It would be very interesting for me to see how the poker game will go when the rival players will be only separate, as it were, "virtual personalities" behavior and whose actions are completely determined by AI.  Apparently, either by different developers and AI teachers, Or separate "personalities" modeled by the single AI itself, such as "players". 
However, in poker you can only either win or lose. 
And what will then happen in the matter of dominance of the winning "personality" over the loser?  How their conflict will develop further and how the race in their learning will continue. 
But in general, all these processes will definitely be launched by one of the AI ​​developers anyway, here I don’t even doubt that this will happen.  However, poker games between just ordinary rivals, I hope, will still remain an interesting and traditional entertainment for players. 
Otherwise, all of humanity will simply lose such an interesting sphere of human activity. 
Or there will be legislative restrictions on AI, which is also one of the options for preserving traditional values.

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July 19, 2023, 09:19:20 AM
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However, I personally don't think that AIs will ever be customized to be able to gamble or be used against casinos because those who develop AI models understand that casinos are a business and they wouldn't want to ruin the businesses of a lot of people as that will take them out of business.

That is what I don't expect at all. There's no such thing as some "developers' world forum" where they decide what to do and what not. If it will be possible to create a powerful AI that can be helpful in making sports bets or playing poker, it will be created, that's what I'm sure of. As I was saying above, it won't be exactly a threat to casinos, especially for online poker platforms because they charge their fee before a game even started. So, online gambling, and poker in particular won't be destroyed by anything like Chat GPT, imo.
Every casino will definitely use the same technology where people might think using AI technology to beat the casino, it's clear the casino will use that too because they will definitely update anything to prevent something that can harm them, especially casinos also don't want gamblers to win against them even though what we know is that the bookies will always win.
Well, the truth of the matter is that, we still have some casinos that are very honest, and have made so much money that they no longer care whether gamblers beat the house or not, but the thing now is that, even if they want their customers to win more often, its no longer that feasible because their system have already been designed to always have an upper hand over the gambler, and this is not something they can go in and just edit, it might require a total overhaul of the entire system, and even at that, its not recommended as its a big risk on the gambling company and their finances.

The above is just my personal thought though, might be right or wrong.
Perhaps, you can say that because a casino with a system to always be on top of gamblers can just integrate a special AI for the casino so that the casino can handle gamblers who also use AI. There is no way the casinos will let gamblers who use AI make more money than the casinos because it will hurt the casino business. And I think casinos are also keeping an eye on these AI developments while keeping a close eye on their place of business and will act immediately if anything looks suspicious.

But even if gamblers use AI, casinos can handle it well so it doesn't hurt their business. Perhaps, it still takes time to see what kind of AI will be implemented or used by gamblers or casinos.
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