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May 04, 2023, 02:50:10 PM
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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
I never take Chat GPt seriously. Because this chat GPT can never give you accurate information. Many people may have expressed many comments about this chat gpt but I will never say that this chat gpt can bring benefits for me. You will never get a perfect solution using it, especially on casino platforms. Maybe you can find information here for other jobs but it may not be accurate. Your comments and luck will always be taken more seriously on the casino platform as this chat gpt can never reveal the luck and comments inside your mind.
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May 04, 2023, 06:50:25 PM
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the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.
Instead of discussing the advantages of AI, everyone is creating a situation where AI is associated with everything and portraying it in a bad light. Many people like me don't understand why AI should be added to gambling, gambling should be the way it is now. If AI is involved in gambling, the real entertainment of gambling will not be there. This will have an impact on the gambling industry. Some things are important to change but not everything.
Exactly! What's the fun even if you manage to win if you are not the one who is doing everything? Success tastes great when the struggle has been done by yourself and it wasn't something that was given to you for doing nothing at all. The same goes for gambling, if you are betting on a sports event, you should do analysis, research, and decide which team will win yourself, and when that team wins, you will feel a happiness that is refreshing from the inside.

If you are making an AI model do all the work and manage to win multiple games based on that, you might get money but you won't get satisfaction at all and at the end of the day, that is what matters. Most people gamble only for fun, and there will be no fun if there is AI involved.

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We might not know what these artificial intelligence is capable of during until we wait for few years from now to see how things are going to go like. This AI is going to be used more for evil and we need to be prepared for the worse because the time is coming to us as soon as possible. Even the government may not be able to control it themselves.
the whole idea of the person(s) behind the AI invention isn't for evil, it's the negative mindset of the users that'll now change this idea and make it look like a bad idea.
It depends on the worldview of the people behind the creation of AI, as well as on those people, organizations and political structures who ultimately control the further development of AI.  

I think that in general the whole civilization is on the verge of possible and very negative changes for the simple reason that the development of AI from just laboratory conditions and experiments has already grown into all spheres of military development and has become used in modern warfare.  Do you think that such AI, originally aimed at destroying the enemy, can bring at least something good to humanity?  And the latest events generally tell us quite unambiguously that those political clans in the world that are now in power are aimed at confrontation and tough confrontation!  What good can be expected from them?  And from AI, whose development they obviously oversee and keep under control?  True, it is not known how long they will keep him under 100% control.  And there will be a huge fiasco here. ?
And all this can happen because of ambitions, groups of some arrogant, filthy and cruel politicians who imagine themselves to be gods!
Oh my, it's those apocalyptic predictions about AI again. Earth ruled by robots? Bone-chilling. But let's be honest: AI is just a tool, like a hammer; we're the actual artisans. Dangers? Robots do have them now. It's a minefield out there, people. This is the cost of new ideas. That group of "haughty, vile, merciless politicians"? Do not oversimplify things. Baddies? Sure thing. However, heroes put in effort to alter our reality. This calls for a halt to the verdicts. Think about how useful AI could be. Just picture it: all diseases have been wiped out, the planet is safe, and people are free to go after their dreams without concern. If we treat artificial intelligence with care, we can create a world like that

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May 04, 2023, 10:01:29 PM
 #144

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
I never take Chat GPt seriously. Because this chat GPT can never give you accurate information. Many people may have expressed many comments about this chat gpt but I will never say that this chat gpt can bring benefits for me. You will never get a perfect solution using it, especially on casino platforms. Maybe you can find information here for other jobs but it may not be accurate. Your comments and luck will always be taken more seriously on the casino platform as this chat gpt can never reveal the luck and comments inside your mind.
People are too exaggerated to confuse gambling using chatgpt including online poker, to be honest as a chatgpt user I usually only use it for a few short jobs like building a website and so on, sometimes it also depends on how the purpose of the chatgpt user itself is that the average gambler using it wants to find a way cheat or break online poker.

Gamblers will never use advanced technology to look for something more valuable than gambling itself. as a gambler, in fact, I have never used let alone taken this chatgpt technology seriously in helping me with my gambling affairs because in my opinion it is enough for me to use analysis and ability to play gambling. without having to intervene AI or chatgpt  Wink

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May 04, 2023, 11:01:25 PM
 #145

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
I never take Chat GPt seriously. Because this chat GPT can never give you accurate information. Many people may have expressed many comments about this chat gpt but I will never say that this chat gpt can bring benefits for me. You will never get a perfect solution using it, especially on casino platforms. Maybe you can find information here for other jobs but it may not be accurate. Your comments and luck will always be taken more seriously on the casino platform as this chat gpt can never reveal the luck and comments inside your mind.
I am very certain that with time, things are going to be improved and chatgpt might become something we won't be able to live without. This is just in it first phase and it is as dupe as this with so many amazing features that is even more friendly to programmers to get things done in the most simple and appropriate way.

Some of us had nit use this tool that is why we might see it as not useful to us but for the coders and programers that can not do without coding in a day, they are the ones rejoicing for having a tool that had make work easier for them to execute as quick as possible. Chatgpt is have the potential of doing the imaginable even to the poker players.









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May 04, 2023, 11:02:54 PM
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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

Poker is both a game of skill and chance. Players can definitely use their skill in bluffing or at least on predicting the cards of their opponent to gain an advantage on the table. It is also considered as a game of luck as the players cannot control the cards that they are given to. Basically, poker has an aspect that the player cannot control and it is up to them on how they would use their techniques/skill to win a given round.

Given this information, do you think it is possible for AIs to mimic this kind of skill/technique when such varies per round? I do not think so since AIs have limited capacity and ability to understand the given information per round.

I guess this is a confusion that many people associate. Just because chat GPT can provide you with any information does not entirely mean that they also have the power to accurately predict future outcomes.

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May 04, 2023, 11:33:03 PM
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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
No, I've tried playing cards/poker with the GPT Chatbot/Chat service, damn the robot is only programmed to answer what humans have entered, AI technology really can't guess and answer something that hasn't happened in the future, that's the weakness, I think GPT Chat is not a real threat to poker gambling or other games.

In my experience, using Chat GPT in poker, I asked about the opponent's card, what type of card was in the opponent's hand. Al answered, club and spade, ehh it turns out that the opponents issued diamond and heart cards, since then I no longer trust GPT Chat and don't want to have anything to do with this technology, he answered but lied.

I think you are asking the wrong question to be honest. The AI has no more ability to detect what is in the opponents hand than you or a cat or a dog. The right question to ask is what decision will most likely achieve better results under a given scenario. Best players use a lot of tactics and statistically based gameplaying, something that the AI can learn,

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May 05, 2023, 07:02:59 PM
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Given this information, do you think it is possible for AIs to mimic this kind of skill/technique when such varies per round? I do not think so since AIs have limited capacity and ability to understand the given information per round.

I guess this is a confusion that many people associate. Just because chat GPT can provide you with any information does not entirely mean that they also have the power to accurately predict future outcomes.
It is not possible for ChatGPT to do this because as its name implies, it is an AI which specializes in generating readable text, however an AI which specializes in playing poker can do this very easily, AIs which can play most boardgames have been created already and they are very good, so anyone which knows by heart the algorithms being used to create those AIs and they are good poker players themselves could in theory create an AI which could easily beat the average poker player.

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May 05, 2023, 08:50:15 PM
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Chat GTP can only provide us with what is available for analysis and computations. It is not capable of reading specific people's minds and emotions in predicting the future based on fantasies. In a poker game, Chat GPT can only provide you the chances of winning your cards based on what is seen on the deck and its remaining cards.

So it's like a better version of a scientific calculator because it saves you time and effort from memorizing and making calculations based on your mind which is not that easy. Maybe in the future, a robot can read people's expressions and gestures that might help assess if they are worried and or comfortable with their cards.
Chat GTP is vital for students, and they made full use of it. Computer science students utilized it to repair code bugs, while other students used it to improve their essay writing skills and pose needless questions that required irrelevant answers. Chat GTP has surpassed other social media platforms; I found it useful in so many ways, but it's also detrimental since students will currently wake up and give chat GTP instructions on what happens next in the house. Saving and instructing chat GTP on online tasks to complete within a few seconds or minutes can completely stimulate their laziness and relenting in their activities as students and children.

I agree although we cannot deny the fact that generally speaking, Chat GPT is a big help not just to students. Very busy people can save time and effort due to Chat GPT. It might cause laziness to some people, especially to the next generation but they can always divert the time they save to other activities that makes them productive. The future will become more futuristic because basic stuff like doing research is becoming easier.

Chat GPT brings a lot to the table but at least online poker gambling is still competitive as it is. It might help someone to have an easier time making calculations but that is all this AI can bring. There is still zero chance of knowing the cards of its competitors and those that are in the deck.

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Chat GTP can only provide us with what is available for analysis and computations. It is not capable of reading specific people's minds and emotions in predicting the future based on fantasies. In a poker game, Chat GPT can only provide you the chances of winning your cards based on what is seen on the deck and its remaining cards.

So it's like a better version of a scientific calculator because it saves you time and effort from memorizing and making calculations based on your mind which is not that easy. Maybe in the future, a robot can read people's expressions and gestures that might help assess if they are worried and or comfortable with their cards.
Chat GTP is vital for students, and they made full use of it. Computer science students utilized it to repair code bugs, while other students used it to improve their essay writing skills and pose needless questions that required irrelevant answers. Chat GTP has surpassed other social media platforms; I found it useful in so many ways, but it's also detrimental since students will currently wake up and give chat GTP instructions on what happens next in the house. Saving and instructing chat GTP on online tasks to complete within a few seconds or minutes can completely stimulate their laziness and relenting in their activities as students and children.

I agree although we cannot deny the fact that generally speaking, Chat GPT is a big help not just to students. Very busy people can save time and effort due to Chat GPT. It might cause laziness to some people, especially to the next generation but they can always divert the time they save to other activities that makes them productive. The future will become more futuristic because basic stuff like doing research is becoming easier.

Chat GPT brings a lot to the table but at least online poker gambling is still competitive as it is. It might help someone to have an easier time making calculations but that is all this AI can bring. There is still zero chance of knowing the cards of its competitors and those that are in the deck.

Many developers are already using AI and ChatGPT for the apps they are developing. Quite a development for sure that can be used in many industries, the new generation will really find the bots useful even in gambling.

But AIs used in online poker will not be good for it will only make users distrust casinos that allow the AIs. By then as people suspect every player uses AI, they will only play poker on the real casino on the table. Just like what happened in online Chess where players can not be sure if they are playing against a bot.



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May 05, 2023, 09:59:21 PM
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It might help someone to have an easier time making calculations but that is all this AI can bring. There is still zero chance of knowing the cards of its competitors and those that are in the deck.
^That is the laziest way and it is a kind of cheat if you easily know your opponent's card using AI.
But AI algorithms do not work that way, an AI algorithm can analyze vast amounts of data from previous poker games to identify patterns and trends that can help players make accurate decisions during gameplay and it can also develop strategies, it can be trained to develop optimal strategies for specific poker games by playing against itself or analyzing vast amounts of gameplay data.
Some poker gambling casino online poker platforms can use AI algorithms to detect bots and other forms of cheating by analyzing patterns in player behavior and identifying unusual activity, that is the use of AI I think.
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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
No, I've tried playing cards/poker with the GPT Chatbot/Chat service, damn the robot is only programmed to answer what humans have entered, AI technology really can't guess and answer something that hasn't happened in the future, that's the weakness, I think GPT Chat is not a real threat to poker gambling or other games.

In my experience, using Chat GPT in poker, I asked about the opponent's card, what type of card was in the opponent's hand. Al answered, club and spade, ehh it turns out that the opponents issued diamond and heart cards, since then I no longer trust GPT Chat and don't want to have anything to do with this technology, he answered but lied.
How exactly did you do that? On which platform were you playing? What you were expecting from the AI model was too much, and I assume you used the free version. How can a language model with data limited up to 2021 tell you what cards a random poker player at a random online casino is holding? That doesn't sound like the way to me.

AI can only be used to play poker if it's specifically designed for this purpose and has been trained with previous data that it can use to play and understand what others might have as cards in their hands, but still, it's not guaranteed that it will succeed in that.

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May 06, 2023, 05:39:45 PM
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Many developers are already using AI and ChatGPT for the apps they are developing. Quite a development for sure that can be used in many industries, the new generation will really find the bots useful even in gambling.

But AIs used in online poker will not be good for it will only make users distrust casinos that allow the AIs. By then as people suspect every player uses AI, they will only play poker on the real casino on the table. Just like what happened in online Chess where players can not be sure if they are playing against a bot.


It's true that right now there are a lot of developments that use AI and also ChatGPT for the projects they've developed because it can help and make their work easier.
But only certain projects use Al or ChatGPT because some still use human manual labor.

Not only will it not be good but also I personally really don't believe that Al can be used to win a game and I'm not sure there are gamblers who want to use Al when they play because if the casino finds out maybe the gambler can get into trouble.
It's better to play with your own abilities and at the same time to learn directly in the game of poker so that you have the dexterity and intelligence of playing strategies.

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Would it be possible??
I guess it will be unless if you are caught doing it, and they change the very rules of the game. I have heard many stories before on something like this. I am unable to give any source to those stories, so forgive me for that. But in the past, many people found some bugs and cheat codes for games like this and later on, the rules were change in order to prevent those activities. And even it is possible and people in a large scale starts using it, then it will be difficult to run the business. So in a scenario, ChatGPT or any other powerful AI capable of doing these could really destroy the poker online gambling.
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May 06, 2023, 10:06:39 PM
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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
No, I've tried playing cards/poker with the GPT Chatbot/Chat service, damn the robot is only programmed to answer what humans have entered, AI technology really can't guess and answer something that hasn't happened in the future, that's the weakness, I think GPT Chat is not a real threat to poker gambling or other games.

Indeed, they only react to the input the player give.  Even saying the obvious if a player hold weak cards or strong cards.  They even get repetitive in the advice on whether you will fold or raise the bet.  While playing with the advice of chatgpt,   I rarely win against the opponet, I wonder if I am doing something wrong while listening to the advice of chatgpt.

In my experience, using Chat GPT in poker, I asked about the opponent's card, what type of card was in the opponent's hand. Al answered, club and spade, ehh it turns out that the opponents issued diamond and heart cards, since then I no longer trust GPT Chat and don't want to have anything to do with this technology, he answered but lied.

Lol, chatgpt cannot guess the hidden card because they are on different platform that is not connected to each other.  it is obvious that chatgpt answer is a guess.

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May 06, 2023, 11:44:01 PM
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Would it be possible??
I guess it will be unless if you are caught doing it, and they change the very rules of the game. I have heard many stories before on something like this. I am unable to give any source to those stories, so forgive me for that. But in the past, many people found some bugs and cheat codes for games like this and later on, the rules were change in order to prevent those activities. And even it is possible and people in a large scale starts using it, then it will be difficult to run the business. So in a scenario, ChatGPT or any other powerful AI capable of doing these could really destroy the poker online gambling.

as we can never be sure about the future, gambling sites should just be prepared about what's imminent. keep their eyes open to the advancement of technology, because we can't escape from it.
though it is not yet alarming in online poker, we can't be so sure in the near future how AI will influence this type of game. and i guess, casinos and bookies are not just relaxing from all these developments. they are also on the lookout for the new technologies out there.

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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

this could be a possibility in the future because AI was solely made for information via the internet but we can just filter out those champions' moves and strategies then that is possible but as of the moment, chat GPT was not made on it though there are API but still its parameters are for information over the internet and sometimes it is difficult to like to control the information that your really wants.
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From what I know, AI could beat good poker players long before ChatGPT was introduced. But it was able to start beating human players only after playing many games with them, particular players, at the same table. There's no universal formula for that. Imo, if you analyze the moves of great poker players and play accordingly, you'll do maybe a bit better than poker bots, but still not that good to be winning most of the time. Winning poker strategies change with time, and those guys best in the field change their style too. Maybe one day AI will be able to do that too, but at the moment it is not superior to good human players.

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Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??
I never take Chat GPt seriously. Because this chat GPT can never give you accurate information. Many people may have expressed many comments about this chat gpt but I will never say that this chat gpt can bring benefits for me. You will never get a perfect solution using it, especially on casino platforms. Maybe you can find information here for other jobs but it may not be accurate. Your comments and luck will always be taken more seriously on the casino platform as this chat gpt can never reveal the luck and comments inside your mind.
I don't know if anyone had any success with gambling through Chat GPT. But I am sure if anyone has given any such information then it is completely fake. A chat board or an AI product can share some information with you that a gambler can analyze and stay ahead, but that is not very useful too in some areas. Since AI basically can't provide any information without a database or can not predict future, how can it influence the success of gambling depending on it? I think these are nothing but fake news. Some people have exaggerated the use of AI which is nothing but confusion.

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May 07, 2023, 12:06:08 PM
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From what I know, AI could beat good poker players long before ChatGPT was introduced. But it was able to start beating human players only after playing many games with them, particular players, at the same table. There's no universal formula for that. Imo, if you analyze the moves of great poker players and play accordingly, you'll do maybe a bit better than poker bots, but still not that good to be winning most of the time. Winning poker strategies change with time, and those guys best in the field change their style too. Maybe one day AI will be able to do that too, but at the moment it is not superior to good human players.
Without AI I should also be able to beat other players to play poker because I am talented at playing online poker but not against poker machines, sophisticated technology does not mean that making poker games easy to beat with AI but only to analyze how the opponent plays so that they are easy to beat does not mean defeating .

I think people are overusing this technology, even for online poker gambling games. Obviously, this is something that doesn't need to be done, in my opinion. use AI wisely to do a great job besides gambling which can benefit yourself and many people.

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