Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling???

[piebeyb]

If there will be an AI vs AI battle in the future, that will be interesting because it will depend on how one can program the AI to win the game. And again, it will require a human way of thinking to trick his opponent into winning.

If you look at this year, AI is not as sophisticated as we think, even though it will take the next few years to see sophistication in gambling platforms, between AI vs. AI, of course, this cannot be separated from human touch and thought, therefore many say that AI is very dangerous if it gets smarter and misused in the future because it could disrupt the existing order.

I may not be too interested in using this technology even though it helps a little human work, but if it is used in gambling it is less interesting because basically gambling with our own minds and hands is more enjoyable than we leave it to AI to win and gamble for ourselves, after all nor can it be enjoyed by us as gamblers. 

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[wiss19]

I think it’s the other way around. If AI is dominating the poker games to the point that even pro will be no match to AI then the use of it will be banned by most of the casino since it defeats the purpose of gambling if the player is not enjoying anymore playing by themselves.

Letting an AI to play for you is like a way to cheat with other players since you are relying on artificial intelligence to have an advantage against other player. And in the future this AI is possible, I think other players will use it too so it will be an AI vs AI battle which is pretty boring because there will be no action anymore such as bluffing since AI is not capable of doing tricks to read human behaviors.

Do you think that casino will be worried whether the players are having any difficulty due to Artificial intelligence or are the players enjoying the gambling experience on thier site ?

Apart from the few good casinos, most casino only focus on their own money and they wouldn't hesitate to deploy AI only to make games more difficult and challenging for the gamblers.

I don't see how casinos can make games more difficult considering they are all based on random number generators and the results cannot be manipulated unless the chances of players winning are decreased in such a case the gamblers will suspect it and then stop gambling on that particular exchange which will be bad for their business. So they would probably never use AI to do something like that.

If somewhere in the future, players started using AI models to gamble to increase their chances of winning, casinos will surely use AI to counter that issue by detecting betting patterns and stuff and ban users that are using AI models to win more money.

[elevates]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

While ChatGPT and other AI systems can be educated on massive amounts of data, including poker champions' games, entirely killing online poker for human players is quite unlikely. AIs might be powerful opponents due to their capacity to analyze massive quantities of data and make strategic judgments, but poker is more than just statistics. Human players benefit from intuition, emotions, and the capacity to adjust to changing surroundings. Although some AI bots for poker have been built, they have not totally taken over the game. So, while AI might improve games and provide vital insights, the human element in poker is likely to endure, particularly at higher stakes.

[Cling18]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

While ChatGPT and other AI systems can be educated on massive amounts of data, including poker champions' games, entirely killing online poker for human players is quite unlikely. AIs might be powerful opponents due to their capacity to analyze massive quantities of data and make strategic judgments, but poker is more than just statistics. Human players benefit from intuition, emotions, and the capacity to adjust to changing surroundings. Although some AI bots for poker have been built, they have not totally taken over the game. So, while AI might improve games and provide vital insights, the human element in poker is likely to endure, particularly at higher stakes.

I certainly agree. Ais nowadays could be used to make decisions making easier in lots of activities including gambling specifically in poker. Some people rely on it when it comes to strategic applications and we can't deny the fact that it is somehow an effective tool to generate winnings but in the long run, it will still not replace or compete with human intelligence.
Humans, when it comes to poker games include emotional strategy which I think no AIs could compete with since emotions aren't readable and it will be a challenging opponent. No program can read it so it could serve as a strength against chatgpt and other Ais.
However, the potential of chatgpt will still have a huge chance to improve more in the future and for sure, more developments could happen and we must expect it.

[Hispo]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

While ChatGPT and other AI systems can be educated on massive amounts of data, including poker champions' games, entirely killing online poker for human players is quite unlikely. AIs might be powerful opponents due to their capacity to analyze massive quantities of data and make strategic judgments, but poker is more than just statistics. Human players benefit from intuition, emotions, and the capacity to adjust to changing surroundings. Although some AI bots for poker have been built, they have not totally taken over the game. So, while AI might improve games and provide vital insights, the human element in poker is likely to endure, particularly at higher stakes.

Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. As you said, an artificial intelligence can learn how to play poker and actually be good at it, but for now only humans can identify the physical cues which can be vital to know whether your foe has drawn a very good or a very bad hand. That is something we can count on remaining within the human being abilities which a computer cannot understand.

In my opinion, the most popular casinos should start thinking on including the use of AI in their term of service, specially those which specialize on card games PvP.

[Blitzboy]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

While ChatGPT and other AI systems can be educated on massive amounts of data, including poker champions' games, entirely killing online poker for human players is quite unlikely. AIs might be powerful opponents due to their capacity to analyze massive quantities of data and make strategic judgments, but poker is more than just statistics. Human players benefit from intuition, emotions, and the capacity to adjust to changing surroundings. Although some AI bots for poker have been built, they have not totally taken over the game. So, while AI might improve games and provide vital insights, the human element in poker is likely to endure, particularly at higher stakes.

Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. As you said, an artificial intelligence can learn how to play poker and actually be good at it, but for now only humans can identify the physical cues which can be vital to know whether your foe has drawn a very good or a very bad hand. That is something we can count on remaining within the human being abilities which a computer cannot understand.

In my opinion, the most popular casinos should start thinking on including the use of AI in their term of service, specially those which specialize on card games PvP.

AI could revolutionize online poker, yet it also spells potential doom! We're stepping into unexplored territory. AI' sophisticated learning from poker pros is impressive, but its inability to interpret physical cues is a critical flaw. Poker' heart lies beyond cards; its about human nuances - bluffing, reacting, feeling. Can AI genuinely emulate this? Online casinos should incorporate AI in their terms, but it's a double-edged gamble. They could enhance gameplay, but risk alienating players. After all, who desires a showdown with an invincible bot?

[ethereumhunter]

The developers are doing their best at building AI based software for every purpose these days and poker is also in that list. I have seen some AI bots that are mostly into the field of poker and one of them is ruse AI. Another open source bot that has the ability to play poker is "Deep mind pokerbot," and the developer claims that the bot can automatically play GGPoker game. The best thing about this bot is its open-source nature and that means anyone can change the code according to their needs.

I don't think that traditional poker players will ever stop playing poker because of such AI bots. The traditional players are true fans of the game and they find it very entertaining, and when someone finds a game entertaining then he/she will never stop playing that game. They will continue playing the game but the problem they will have to face is AI against those legit players and which can result into hard competition for them. The greedy fellows will run those bots to earn a lot from poker and the legit players may lose some money if their tactics are weak against AI.

I think if the use of AI for gambling games has developed more advanced, casinos can offer a different form of gambling where later there will be fights between each AI or something like that. Meanwhile, the casino will also offer manual matches between traditional poker players so that will allow the casino to offer something different than before.

But for a robot, maybe in the future, there will be an AI that can think of finding ways to win but only look for ways to win and not think about anything else. So gamblers can use the robot while watching it without changing the codes. Well, the way to see the perfect AI is still very long and it is not certain when it will be released because the developers are still working on the development.

If you look at this year, AI is not as sophisticated as we think, even though it will take the next few years to see sophistication in gambling platforms, between AI vs. AI, of course, this cannot be separated from human touch and thought, therefore many say that AI is very dangerous if it gets smarter and misused in the future because it could disrupt the existing order.

I may not be too interested in using this technology even though it helps a little human work, but if it is used in gambling it is less interesting because basically gambling with our own minds and hands is more enjoyable than we leave it to AI to win and gamble for ourselves, after all nor can it be enjoyed by us as gamblers. 

I agree AI is not as sophisticated as we think, but it will change in the next few years as developers are still working hard to make it happen. And it's true that if AI already has the ability to think, it can harm humans because it can take over jobs and daily human tasks or even make important decisions.

I'm still waiting for the development of AI for the field of gambling and for now, I still like playing gambling with what I've done as before. And it's true that we get pleasure and entertainment from what we do instead of using a device.

[Betwrong]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

As you said, an artificial intelligence can learn how to play poker and actually be good at it, but for now only humans can identify the physical cues which can be vital to know whether your foe has drawn a very good or a very bad hand. That is something we can count on remaining within the human being abilities which a computer cannot understand.

I know it's a popular belief, but I strongly disagree with it. I think this view that has been imposed by movies and TV series to such a degree that many people think it's reality. It just looks good on the screen: some poker experts reading those physical cues and call big bluffs, or, fold when it's necessary and stuff, and so it's there, on the screen. While in reality readable physical cues hardly exist on the high level, because if you are older than 8 years old you can fake your reaction. Anyone can.

[Cuenta Alternativa]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

It would.

I just don't think it will kill it completely. It's been many years since Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, and chess is still being played, including the world championship. I think the fate of poker will be similar.

[Hispo]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

It would.

I just don't think it will kill it completely. It's been many years since Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, and chess is still being played, including the world championship. I think the fate of poker will be similar.

Online poker would survive but the webpages and casinos which specialize in poker would need to implement new mechanism to guarantee the player who is participating in a tournament is an actual human being. That is in the case that the AI proved itself to be a very skillful that can actually defeat human beings in a consistent way.

I think it would be more threatening if an AI also learned how to code, which would imply hacking capabilities, a rogue cheating AI in poker could be a nightmare for operators, even worse than just an skillful non-human player.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Yes, in fact , if I were the owner of an online casino, I would already be taking forecasts, because this AI thing is going to increase, I know that right now there are many errors, it's like everything else , this reminds me of the history of computers, they began With the Mark , now they are going in a very high technology where the processors are an impressive thing , however we as we are in all this way we must understand that as time goes on this is improving , and each time the systems are focusing towards continuous improvement , for this reason I think that AI in the future will set the standard in everything , Especially in Casino bets.

When AI is getting better and smarter so that many gamblers will use AI, then the casino owner and team will also ban the use of AI, they will even use the same intelligence tool to detect gamblers who use AI.
A strict ban with appropriate punishment can certainly have a deterrent effect on gamblers.
Believe me, casino owners don't want to experience losses, so they will do whatever it takes to minimize the number of losses.

The question here is that casinos have a big challenge, because there are many people who play very similar to an AI, but it is because they have great expertise about it, so how can they differentiate an AI from a human being? I know that a human being does not have the same speed action as an AI, if the casino determines that there are very fast movements in the game then they can say yes, it is an AI, but when playing poker it does not matter, it can take time to do it , and even so , an AI that is not Integrated into the account can get in , I don't know how they can do it , but this is something that is Worrying.

[Betwrong]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

It would.

I just don't think it will kill it completely. It's been many years since Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, and chess is still being played, including the world championship. I think the fate of poker will be similar.

Online poker would survive but the webpages and casinos which specialize in poker would need to implement new mechanism to guarantee the player who is participating in a tournament is an actual human being. That is in the case that the AI proved itself to be a very skillful that can actually defeat human beings in a consistent way.

I think it would be more threatening if an AI also learned how to code, which would imply hacking capabilities, a rogue cheating AI in poker could be a nightmare for operators, even worse than just an skillful non-human player.

AI already knows how to code, but coding and hacking are two different things. In some cases  hacking is simply impossible. Theoretically we all know how to hack Bitcoin, but it's physically impossible in practice. The same with poker sites: it's not enough to know what code to feed them with to get a winning hand, because they will never accept your "food".

[LUCKMCFLY]

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When AI is getting better and smarter so that many gamblers will use AI, then the casino owner and team will also ban the use of AI, they will even use the same intelligence tool to detect gamblers who use AI.
A strict ban with appropriate punishment can certainly have a deterrent effect on gamblers.
Believe me, casino owners don't want to experience losses, so they will do whatever it takes to minimize the number of losses.

I agree with you.
However, if Al's development is getting better and many gamblers take advantage of it, the casino team will not remain silent because they will definitely make steps to minimize the use of Al in gambling so that the casino team can still control some fraud or prohibited actions.

I believe the casino team is composed of smart and experienced people so if only to address the problem of using AI they can easily overcome it.

Without a doubt, and if they are not, they should prepare themselves inside the casino because the security systems can be vulnerable to AI, so if the casino staff cannot prepare themselves to be at the level, they will have to hire experts who can provide the support for them, although I think that the most important thing here is that programmers have to have these premises in order to have the opportunity to fight against AI in their own field, in general I have seen that there are many AI courses which are provided by google, and that is something that many take, but blockchain+AI is more complicated, you need to have many books to be able to do something.

[Hispo]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

It would.

I just don't think it will kill it completely. It's been many years since Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, and chess is still being played, including the world championship. I think the fate of poker will be similar.

Online poker would survive but the webpages and casinos which specialize in poker would need to implement new mechanism to guarantee the player who is participating in a tournament is an actual human being. That is in the case that the AI proved itself to be a very skillful that can actually defeat human beings in a consistent way.

I think it would be more threatening if an AI also learned how to code, which would imply hacking capabilities, a rogue cheating AI in poker could be a nightmare for operators, even worse than just an skillful non-human player.

AI already knows how to code, but coding and hacking are two different things. In some cases  hacking is simply impossible. Theoretically we all know how to hack Bitcoin, but it's physically impossible in practice. The same with poker sites: it's not enough to know what code to feed them with to get a winning hand, because they will never accept your "food".

Actually, hacking is possible; because there has been people, human beings who have been able to do it before without the help of Artificial intelligence. Now, imagine how easier the hacking and cracking would get if some AI gets involved, with knowledge of hacking/coding.

In my eyes, the difference between coding constructively and hacking is the intention of the person doing it. Even if the AI does not become sentient, it still could have a human being with bad intentions directing it to find vulnerabilities in a casino and instead responsibly disclosing it, using that vulnerability to earn money and abuse the system.

[danadc]

~ Assuming someone actually trained an AI with a long thread of information from poker champions, I think that would only prompt people to move onto playing poker face to face rather on online platforms. ~

That would mean destroying online poker, right?

It would.

I just don't think it will kill it completely. It's been many years since Deep Blue defeated Kasparov, and chess is still being played, including the world championship. I think the fate of poker will be similar.

Online poker would survive but the webpages and casinos which specialize in poker would need to implement new mechanism to guarantee the player who is participating in a tournament is an actual human being. That is in the case that the AI proved itself to be a very skillful that can actually defeat human beings in a consistent way.

I think it would be more threatening if an AI also learned how to code, which would imply hacking capabilities, a rogue cheating AI in poker could be a nightmare for operators, even worse than just an skillful non-human player.

AI already knows how to code, but coding and hacking are two different things. In some cases  hacking is simply impossible. Theoretically we all know how to hack Bitcoin, but it's physically impossible in practice. The same with poker sites: it's not enough to know what code to feed them with to get a winning hand, because they will never accept your "food".

If there is already coding, it is like saying that it is in a space where anything can be developed, the hack is only a step so that they can have access, if we start to see, what remains for the development of the AI is time but perop a short time, because the AI learns quickly and with training, so these things that have to do with casino software is a matter of giving it and giving it until it beats it, and that is with trial and error, if that they put it into an account it can make a casino get the hang of it and get in, well that's what they can't do, I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think that's how it works.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Reading another post, it crossed my mind that AIs and particularly ChatGPT could potentially be trained with a large samples of games played by poker champions and then put it to auto-play with amateur on-line players. If this is successful, it could mean the end of human on-line poker playing except perhaps for the world masters and the like. Has anyone tried? Would it be possible??

There is some analogy with chess algorithms and programs that can now defeat the top players in the world. However I'm not quite sure the same is true for poker, as the best it'll tend to do is based on choosing the right response based on pot odds. It might be able to go a step further and judge a bluff, but the best players in the world could probably determine the point where it will fold to a bluff. If the bot had a large amount of analysis specific to the player it was against, then it could potentially determine a countering strategy and pick out bluffs more effectively.

This thing about chess players who are very good and who now want to play poker by applying their strategies and their great power of thought in order to win makes things much more challenging. In what I know, many poker strategies can be applied and that is something that is seen regularly, AI is also mentioned here, I think that AI is more applicable in chess than in poker, I know that there are many robots that are very good for poker, and there are some that still use them They have training with the fundamental idea of beating the betting houses, that is what many are looking for, that is why it is a stronger challenge for everyone every time.

[Betwrong]

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Actually, hacking is possible; because there has been people, human beings who have been able to do it before without the help of Artificial intelligence. Now, imagine how easier the hacking and cracking would get if some AI gets involved, with knowledge of hacking/coding.

In my eyes, the difference between coding constructively and hacking is the intention of the person doing it. Even if the AI does not become sentient, it still could have a human being with bad intentions directing it to find vulnerabilities in a casino and instead responsibly disclosing it, using that vulnerability to earn money and abuse the system.

What times are talking about? Because if it was a recent event, it would be interesting to read more about it. I mean, I think hacking an online poker site where people play with real money is impossible these days in my opinion. Infecting players' computers with a malware that takes screenshots of their cards is possible, but that's far from being the same as hacking a poker site.

[maydna]

If there is already coding, it is like saying that it is in a space where anything can be developed, the hack is only a step so that they can have access, if we start to see, what remains for the development of the AI is time but perop a short time, because the AI learns quickly and with training, so these things that have to do with casino software is a matter of giving it and giving it until it beats it, and that is with trial and error, if that they put it into an account it can make a casino get the hang of it and get in, well that's what they can't do, I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think that's how it works.

I think there will come a time when AI will be able to code itself so that it can hack systems in many businesses, not just casinos. But we don't know when that will happen, and for the time being, it looks like AI development is still ongoing and needs some more time. I don't know what the development of AI will be like in the next 5 to 10 years because AI technology will develop rapidly. Perhaps, as you said, AI will work later but still needs more time.

[summonerrk]

I am not a professional IT specialist, ano is familiar with some libraries and features. And with such little knowledge, I roughly understand how you can make an online poker exchange service: of course, we will not put this bad software on the computer, because the casino program will immediately recognize it by the algorithms that are trying to be implemented. You need to make a program on another device that will read information from the computer monitor. Most likely it will be on Android so that it can be used anywhere. Well, then everything is simple. We recognize the image and the situation on the table. Then we ask a question about this situation for AI. And we get the answer. That's all.

[virasisog]

If there is already coding, it is like saying that it is in a space where anything can be developed, the hack is only a step so that they can have access, if we start to see, what remains for the development of the AI is time but perop a short time, because the AI learns quickly and with training, so these things that have to do with casino software is a matter of giving it and giving it until it beats it, and that is with trial and error, if that they put it into an account it can make a casino get the hang of it and get in, well that's what they can't do, I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think that's how it works.

I think there will come a time when AI will be able to code itself so that it can hack systems in many businesses, not just casinos. But we don't know when that will happen, and for the time being, it looks like AI development is still ongoing and needs some more time. I don't know what the development of AI will be like in the next 5 to 10 years because AI technology will develop rapidly. Perhaps, as you said, AI will work later but still needs more time.

AIs are continuously developing and they can possibly hack systems in the future but I still don't think casinos aren't preparing well for the possibilities that might happen.
Yes, there are successful poker players who rely on AIs but nothing will still defeat human intelligence when it comes to gambling especially in poker because humans are known to be tricky and strategic.
However, AIs were not actually made to destroy casinos because they are also beneficial to us if being used in the right way. They are making tasks easier for us these days but I don't think it will be wise to rely on them even in gambling.